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KB24PG16
06-23-2010, 05:25 PM
Cap saving move for Heat.
Thunder Receive: Cook and 18th Pick
Heat Receive: 32nd pick and also lose Cooks salary

Heres a link for the non-believers http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5320725

hgtiger32
06-23-2010, 05:26 PM
ESPN NBA DRAFT-Bucher: Thunder acquire G Daequan Cook, 18th overall pick in draft from Heat for 32nd overall pick

*Thunder get a decent outside shooter and a very quality pick at #18

TYoung21
06-23-2010, 05:27 PM
I didn't think that type of trade would be approved; trading a player and a pick for a lower pick

THE MTL
06-23-2010, 05:27 PM
That means they trading Beasley. And they will be able to sign THREE MAX FA (includes Wade).

abe_froman
06-23-2010, 05:27 PM
heat are still desperate for capspace i guess lol..good move for okc

Kakaroach
06-23-2010, 05:28 PM
Link please because its not on his twitter as of now.

Another good move by the Thunder if it is true though. A good young player in Cook plus a pretty good pick.

DerekRE_3
06-23-2010, 05:28 PM
Wow, great deal for the Thunder. They get Eric Maynor for pretty much nothing, get the #18 pick and Cook for pretty much nothing. Presti is a genius.

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 05:28 PM
the trde doesnt add up...player and a higher pick for lower pick.....one of these teams or bucher must be dumb....lol

AZCardsFan
06-23-2010, 05:28 PM
Looks like a Phoenix Sun trade........

abe_froman
06-23-2010, 05:29 PM
Wow, great deal for the Thunder. They get Eric Maynor for pretty much nothing, get the #18 pick and Cook for pretty much nothing. Presti is a genius.

was it presti,or was it the heats desperation to go all in on f.a. that got the deal done???

KB24PG16
06-23-2010, 05:30 PM
Link please because its not on his twitter as of now.

Another good move by the Thunder if it is true though. A good young player in Cook plus a pretty good pick.

i got an espn text on my phone :shrug:

Stunner
06-23-2010, 05:31 PM
Steal

Kakaroach
06-23-2010, 05:32 PM
was it presti,or was it the heats desperation to go all in on f.a. that got the deal done??? I would say both. Heat want all the cap space they can get it and Presti took full advantage of that.


i got an espn text on my phone :shrug: Ohh I see, well good enough. I'll add a link once one comes up.

still1ballin
06-23-2010, 05:33 PM
IMO this is a steal for the Thunder

AI4MVP
06-23-2010, 05:33 PM
damn. thunder can get another very young good player at 18 now. there going to be competing for a dynasty very soon

ManRam
06-23-2010, 05:34 PM
Cook sucks...but Miami looks really desperate to be a huge player in free agency.

Makes sense, even though it looks terrible talent-wise. It's strictly a financial move for Miami.

ManRam
06-23-2010, 05:35 PM
And yeah...I can't find this anywhere on the internet. I'll leave this open for a little longer, but if no one can find a link soon I'm shutting it down.

DerekRE_3
06-23-2010, 05:37 PM
was it presti,or was it the heats desperation to go all in on f.a. that got the deal done???

Both, but kudos to Presti for recognizing it and getting a deal done when the Heat could have gone elsewhere.

EDIT: if the trade is legit

KB24PG16
06-23-2010, 05:38 PM
its already changed him to okc player on wikipedia

THE MTL
06-23-2010, 05:39 PM
And yeah...I can't find this anywhere on the internet. I'll leave this open for a little longer, but if no one can find a link soon I'm shutting it down.

Its an ESPN text. I got it on my phone too.

hgtiger32
06-23-2010, 05:40 PM
Link please because its not on his twitter as of now.

Another good move by the Thunder if it is true though. A good young player in Cook plus a pretty good pick.

haha you know things have gotten bad when people are saying they need a link because it's not on twitter :facepalm: x1000000 ....lol

Raps08-09 Champ
06-23-2010, 05:40 PM
If they wanted cap, teams would be willing to offer straight up money for those picks.

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 05:41 PM
its already changed him to okc player on wikipedia

true

slack_justin
06-23-2010, 05:42 PM
weird , obviously a set up move.

KB24PG16
06-23-2010, 05:42 PM
haha you know things have gotten bad when people are saying they need a link because it's not on twitter :facepalm: x1000000 ....lol

lol

phlp_bj
06-23-2010, 05:44 PM
saw it on the bottom line on espn

Mplsman
06-23-2010, 05:44 PM
nice move OKC

Rivera
06-23-2010, 05:44 PM
its already changed him to okc player on wikipedia

wikipedia is not a reliable source

i can go on wikipedia right now and change his team to the olympiacos or the san franciso 49ers

abe_froman
06-23-2010, 05:44 PM
Cook sucks...but Miami looks really desperate to be a huge player in free agency.

Makes sense, even though it looks terrible talent-wise. It's strictly a financial move for Miami.
cook is depth,not going to be a main contributor.the main value is in getting the 18th pick

Stunner
06-23-2010, 05:45 PM
Cook sucks...but Miami looks really desperate to be a huge player in free agency.

Makes sense, even though it looks terrible talent-wise. It's strictly a financial move for Miami.

Yeah Cook doesnt suck it jus the Heat doesnt knw how to develop talent. Only Wade. Cook if coached right and used right big player of the bench. Can do alot more things then the Heat allowed him to do. Shoot the 3 and defend he is better than Tabo. Big Steal along with the 18th pick.

KB24PG16
06-23-2010, 05:47 PM
wikipedia is not a reliable source

i can go on wikipedia right now and change his team to the olympiacos or the san franciso 49ers

theres a thread based on a blog

dtmagnet
06-23-2010, 05:49 PM
Miami clearing all this room is going to bite them in the *** if no one big signs there.

avrpatsfan
06-23-2010, 05:49 PM
The Heat only have 7,979,096 dollars locked up for next year. If the Heat can convince the big FA to sign like only 2 million dollars under market value this could be their possible lineup.
PG: Decent PG
SG: Wade
SF: Lebron
PF: Beasley
C: Bosh

LayZbone
06-23-2010, 05:49 PM
Yeah Cook doesnt suck it jus the Heat doesnt knw how to develop talent. Only Wade. Cook if coached right and used right big player of the bench. Can do alot more things then the Heat allowed him to do. Shoot the 3 and defend he is better than Tabo. Big Steal along with the 18th pick.

Hell no. I'll take Thabo's lock-down D, thanks. Cook is a streaky shooter. He's pretty garbage. That 18th pick could be huge though. Up next, Beasley probably gets dealt. The Heat's looking to sign 3 MAX FA's.....

this is do or die for Pat Riley. For real.

nikeking711
06-23-2010, 05:50 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5320725

Link

phlp_bj
06-23-2010, 05:50 PM
i see wade, amare, and a lower tier fa signing there

shizzle09
06-23-2010, 05:52 PM
funny listening to everyone saying it doesnt make sense. COOK SUCKS!!!!!!!!! Heat fans watch this guy every game and he is awful. in order to get rid of his salary they needed to give someone something to take him hence the extra pick.

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 05:54 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5320725


The Miami Heat have traded the 18th pick in Thursday's NBA draft and guard Daequan Cook to Oklahoma City for the Thunder's 32nd pick, a league source tells ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

Cook, a backup at shooting guard, averaged five points and 15.4 minutes in 45 games last season.

can a mod update the first post of this thread with this update

Nirvanaskurdt
06-23-2010, 05:55 PM
Could this be a setup to a S&T for Amare involving Beasley ? :(

shizzle09
06-23-2010, 05:55 PM
Yeah Cook doesnt suck it jus the Heat doesnt knw how to develop talent. Only Wade. Cook if coached right and used right big player of the bench. Can do alot more things then the Heat allowed him to do. Shoot the 3 and defend he is better than Tabo. Big Steal along with the 18th pick.

He was brick city every time he touched the floor with the exception of a few games. There's plenty of better players out there and a nice huge thanks to the thunder for taking him. we have bigger plans

shizzle09
06-23-2010, 05:56 PM
i see wade, amare, and a lower tier fa signing there

its South Beach, they should have all kinds of problems getting people to play there alongside wade. good call. :facepalm:

AI4MVP
06-23-2010, 05:58 PM
IMO this is a steal for the Thunder

why wud u put "IMO" for this

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 06:00 PM
why wud u put "IMO" for this

coz thats his opinion ......

Tony_Starks
06-23-2010, 06:01 PM
Wow nice move for both but especially for the Heat. They've opened up room for all kinda possibilities even if its just Wade, a max, a couple of nice pieces and resigning Haslem and JO. Either way there team will be upgraded.

AI4MVP
06-23-2010, 06:02 PM
coz thats his opinion ......

thats like saying "IMO Lebron for Shaun Livingston is a good trade for the team getting LeBron."

The thunder get a higher draft pick and a shooter of the bench for a lower draft pick

dnewguy
06-23-2010, 06:03 PM
The Miami Heat have traded the 18th pick in Thursday's NBA draft and guard Daequan Cook to Oklahoma City for the Thunder's 32nd pick, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

Cook, a backup at shooting guard, averaged five points and 15.4 minutes in 45 games last season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5320725


The move shows Miami is committed to signing 2 superstars and another star player.

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 06:03 PM
The Heat only have 7,979,096 dollars locked up for next year. If the Heat can convince the big FA to sign like only 2 million dollars under market value this could be their possible lineup.
PG: Decent PG
SG: Wade
SF: Lebron
PF: Beasley
C: Bosh

this still wouldnt make them contenders....bcoz bosh is not much of a shot blocker and that team lacks some size in the post

still1ballin
06-23-2010, 06:03 PM
why wud u put "IMO" for this

Because its my opinion. I say it because not everyone is going to agree with me.

Kjthunder
06-23-2010, 06:04 PM
plus now the thunder have 3 picks in the 1st round, 18, 21, and 26 so if they wanted they might be able to package those and move into the lottery

mia305king
06-23-2010, 06:04 PM
thats like saying "IMO Lebron for Shaun Livingston is a good trade for the team getting LeBron."

The thunder get a higher draft pick and a shooter of the bench for a lower draft pick

And the Heat clear more cap for Free Agency, good trade for both. The Heat don't know how to develop young talent. That pick was gonna be a bust if the Heat drafted him.

Impulse
06-23-2010, 06:05 PM
Fair trade. Now to get rid of Jones, which probably means Beasley as well...

KB24PG16
06-23-2010, 06:06 PM
thunder can only get better with their young talent. their players havent even reached their prime yet which is amazing considering they had 50 wins and almost took the champion lakers to game 7

Human FlameShld
06-23-2010, 06:06 PM
The Heat only have 7,979,096 dollars locked up for next year. If the Heat can convince the big FA to sign like only 2 million dollars under market value this could be their possible lineup.
PG: Decent PG
SG: Wade
SF: Lebron
PF: Beasley
C: Bosh


Part of me hopes this happens. I'm curious if 3 of the 10 best players in the league can play together, there is only 1 ball. I think 2 can play together but 3 might not work.

Also they only need to be able to sign Lebron and Bosh to have all 3...they can resign there own players to max deals and go over the cap the only question is whether or not ownership willing to take the luxury tax hit.

still1ballin
06-23-2010, 06:06 PM
And the Heat clear more cap for Free Agency, good trade for both. The Heat don't know how to develop young talent. That pick was gonna be a bust if the Heat drafted him.

:worthy:

kyubi256
06-23-2010, 06:07 PM
Wow. This trade was so weird but does help them potentially get 3 max

Ray_R
06-23-2010, 06:09 PM
I see them getting Boozer Wade and Joe Johnson

Raidaz4Life
06-23-2010, 06:10 PM
Damn, nice move by the Thunder

what54!?
06-23-2010, 06:11 PM
hell yea. Got rid of cook and saved some cap. lets go.

ldc62
06-23-2010, 06:12 PM
They really want Bosh and Lebron with Wade.

jiggin
06-23-2010, 06:12 PM
thunder are going to have to fork out some cash down the line to keep this type of stuff all together. Portland had a similar situation a couple drafts ago and it has only worked out because of Paul Allens deep pockets. is OKC prepared to pay in the end for that many young top players? guess we will find out.

Wonder if they will try and trade one or more of those picks to move into the top 10...then try and really compliment Durant with a top 10 pick for the future.

Heat are clearly more focused on FA signings...

KB24PG16
06-23-2010, 06:14 PM
They really want Bosh and Lebron with Wade.

i doubt they can get all 3. if they did i might just stop watching basketball for the next decade

kingkenny01
06-23-2010, 06:15 PM
i love how big market teams are just giving away great pieces to sign max contract free agents what if this plan fail they all be ****ed
good for small market teams

USM2012
06-23-2010, 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by avrpatsfan
The Heat only have 7,979,096 dollars locked up for next year. If the Heat can convince the big FA to sign like only 2 million dollars under market value this could be their possible lineup.
PG: Decent PG
SG: Wade
SF: Lebron
PF: Beasley
C: Bosh
this still wouldnt make them contenders....bcoz bosh is not much of a shot blocker and that team lacks some size in the post

Are you serious? That wouldn't make them contenders? LOL Wade, Bosh and Lebron on the same team and there not even contenders... Yea right!

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 06:17 PM
i love how big market teams are just giving away great pieces to sign max contract free agents what if this plan fail they all be ****ed
good for small market teams

i never thought heat is a big market team....wow..this is news to me

shep33
06-23-2010, 06:17 PM
What are the Heat doing? They better get 2 very good player on top of Wade, otherwise this could end up being a disaster.

I'm betting Beasley is gone next.

KB24PG16
06-23-2010, 06:19 PM
What are the Heat doing? They better get 2 very good player on top of Wade, otherwise this could end up being a disaster.

I'm betting Beasley is gone next.

beasley to the lakers for their 1st round pick :pray:

Chacarron
06-23-2010, 06:20 PM
Nice job by the Thunder.

Chacarron
06-23-2010, 06:21 PM
beasley to the lakers for their 1st round pick :pray:

2 things: Lakers don't have a 1st round pick AND we don't have cap room to just get a player for a pick.

homestarunner93
06-23-2010, 06:21 PM
Wow, Miami is screwed if they don't bring in someone with Dwyane.

*Silver&Black*
06-23-2010, 06:21 PM
Great move by the Thunder.

Man, if the Heat doesn't sign 3 max, which could result in sucking, and then D-Wade would want out, this could set them back for a long, long time.

abe_froman
06-23-2010, 06:22 PM
What are the Heat doing? They better get 2 very good player on top of Wade, otherwise this could end up being a disaster.

I'm betting Beasley is gone next.
this what i'm saying,its very risky.it could pay off or it could plunge them into the basement for years..no inbetween

sadly most people equate capspace(just the ability to try to sign someone),with done deal,100% guaranteed,already signed max player,no chance it wont work

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 06:25 PM
Are you serious? That wouldn't make them contenders? LOL Wade, Bosh and Lebron on the same team and there not even contenders... Yea right!

r u saying that bosh and beasley can block shots, outrebound and stop people like pau, bynum, KG, dwight and other centers in the league?

xabial
06-23-2010, 06:27 PM
wtf? #18, and a past 3 point champion for a lower 32nd pick? I hope the NBA denies this trade, even if its for 'cap space' reasons. Thats just crossing the line.

Jonathan2323
06-23-2010, 06:32 PM
Wow, Miami is screwed if they don't bring in someone with Dwyane.

How are we screwed? Cook is garbage and Miami probably likes someone that is projected to be drafted around 32. This is all part of Riley's master plan.

nikeking711
06-23-2010, 06:33 PM
Great move by the Thunder.

Man, if the Heat doesn't sign 3 max, which could result in sucking, and then D-Wade would want out, this could set them back for a long, long time.

:facepalm:

Losing Daequan Cook isn't going to set us back. He was inconsistent and was riding the bench for the most part.

nikeking711
06-23-2010, 06:34 PM
r u saying that bosh and beasley can block shots, outrebound and stop people like pau, bynum, KG, dwight and other centers in the league?

No, but they would outscore them :)

dtmagnet
06-23-2010, 06:34 PM
How are we screwed? Cook is garbage and Miami probably likes someone that is projected to be drafted around 32. This is all part of Riley's master plan.

Because you can't play games with no players on your team, youll end up overpaying for players that don't deserve it or else field a team of d-leaguers.

Jonathan2323
06-23-2010, 06:35 PM
Chalmers and Beasley only guaranteed contracts left. lol

*Silver&Black*
06-23-2010, 06:35 PM
all part of Riley's master plan.

You mean half of the NBA's master plan?:rolleyes: Knicks, Nets, Bulls, Clippers and Heat all can't have the top stars. Some of them are going to be set back for a long time.

The Jokemaker
06-23-2010, 06:36 PM
This is an absolutely awful trade. It's not like Cook was making 10 million a year here.

Great deal for the Thunder though. Get a quality player and higher draft pick for nothing.

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 06:36 PM
:facepalm:

Losing Daequan Cook isn't going to set us back. He was inconsistent and was riding the bench for the most part.

he meant.....heat is trying to do everything to sign 3 max players including wade....if for some reason lebron and bosh have different plans then thats a setback....dont u think?

*Silver&Black*
06-23-2010, 06:37 PM
:facepalm:

Losing Daequan Cook isn't going to set us back. He was inconsistent and was riding the bench for the most part.

Not talking about just Cook, but this whole plan that half of the NBA has got going right now. So :facepalm: to you.

Jazzgear
06-23-2010, 06:38 PM
i doubt they can get all 3. if they did i might just stop watching basketball for the next decade

I think Lakers fully healthy with a better bench could beat that team

Bus035
06-23-2010, 06:39 PM
The Thunder are using that pick (18) on Daniel Orton...bank on it...unless they are packaging 18 and 21 to get into the top 10!!!!

*Silver&Black*
06-23-2010, 06:39 PM
I think Lakers fully healthy with a better bench could beat that team

I think anybody with a good enough center and guard combo can beat a Wade/Lebron/Bosh team. Only one ball.

shep33
06-23-2010, 06:40 PM
this what i'm saying,its very risky.it could pay off or it could plunge them into the basement for years..no inbetween

sadly most people equate capspace(just the ability to try to sign someone),with done deal,100% guaranteed,already signed max player,no chance it wont work

Agreed, multiple teams have cap space, and yes Miami would be a sweet place to play, but nothing is guaranteed. If LBJ goes to Chicago or stays in Cleveland they're screwed, cause obviously they're going for Lebron + Bosh/Stoudamire/Boozer.

Thing is if they only get Stoudamire or Boozer (just one of them), they'll get knocked out every year for the next couple of years by the Magic.

Really for the Heat its get 2 guys + Wade or else this could be bad. Joe Johnson doesn't fit either with both him and Wade playing the 2, maybe Rudy Gay, but they don't want to pay him a max deal.

nikeking711
06-23-2010, 06:42 PM
he meant.....heat is trying to do everything to sign 3 max players including wade....if for some reason lebron and bosh have different plans then thats a setback....dont u think?

Not necessarily, Daequan Cook wasn't doing much with the Heat. Like I said he was incredibly inconsistent. The money we saved from Cook and pick 18 can be used to have someone who can contribute.

Heat fans have been wanting to dump Cook's salary along with James Jones for awhile now.

The Jokemaker
06-23-2010, 06:42 PM
How are we screwed? Cook is garbage and Miami probably likes someone that is projected to be drafted around 32. This is all part of Riley's master plan.

If he had a master plan the heat would be a better team than they are right now. The man clearly can't draft so who in teh blazes would sign there knowing what they get there is pretty much the only good left. Gave up on Cook for nothing, Beasley is hated, Chalmers isn't much special. Heat better hope Wade and whatever big they sign can recruit FA's to come play with them.

shep33
06-23-2010, 06:42 PM
The Thunder are using that pick (18) on Daniel Orton...bank on it...unless they are packaging 18 and 21 to get into the top 10!!!!

I think its a good pick for them, makes sense, but we don't know anything about this kid. He averaged 3 ppg last year... yes 3 ppg.

He's a big body but needs development. Its a good pick but the Thunder should get someone who can help them now rather than in 3 years. They're close to contending, so maybe adding Brendan Haywood or something gets them to a 2-4 spot in the West.

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 06:45 PM
Not necessarily, Daequan Cook wasn't doing much with the Heat. Like I said he was incredibly inconsistent. The money we saved from Cook and pick 18 can be used to have someone who can contribute.

Heat fans have been wanting to dump Cook's salary along with James Jones for awhile now.

u dont understand do u? argument is not about cook or his salary.....if lebron decides to stay in cleveland or goes to chicago or NY or clippers...then all this salary dump for heat is a waste.....this salary dump was meant to sign wade, lebron and bosh.....

Impulse
06-23-2010, 06:50 PM
u dont understand do u? argument is not about cook or his salary.....if lebron decides to stay in cleveland or goes to chicago or NY or clippers...then all this salary dump for heat is a waste.....this salary dump was meant to sign wade, lebron and bosh.....

Obviously that is the Heat's first priority, but that isn't the only reason. Fact is, Cook wasn't being utilized off the bench and the Heat haven't any use for a first round pick this year. The 2nd doesn't count against the cap.

There are a lot of quality players to be had through free agency this summer. To think dumping Cook's salary and that of a first round pick was a gamble just to get LeBron and Bosh is foolish.

dimedrpr
06-23-2010, 06:50 PM
Another great move by Sam Presti. Everyone here in OKC is in agreement on two things. We need a big man and another shooter. Cook is a quality 3 pt shooter and with 3 first round picks we have the ability to move up to possibly get Cousins.

J$mo0th_3o5
06-23-2010, 06:53 PM
How is trading away Cook who didn't do **** for us gonna set us back:facepalm: Yes nothing is guaranteed but come on seriously Riley knows something we don't. He's been planning this **** ever since it was in plain sight.

tredigs
06-23-2010, 06:55 PM
Another great move by Sam Presti. Everyone here in OKC is in agreement on two things. We need a big man and another shooter. Cook is a quality 3 pt shooter and with 3 first round picks we have the ability to move up to possibly get Cousins.

Exactly what I was thinking - to a tee.

I'm not sure exactly how he's going to work it (18th+21st+2mil for #5 from Kings?), but this is what I see happening from Presti. They could also just package the 18th + 21st OR 26th to Toronto for the 13th pick and swoop Cole Adrich or Patrick Patterson.

tdunk21
06-23-2010, 06:57 PM
Obviously that is the Heat's first priority, but that isn't the only reason. Fact is, Cook wasn't being utilized off the bench and the Heat haven't any use for a first round pick this year. The 2nd doesn't count against the cap.

There are a lot of quality players to be had through free agency this summer. To think dumping Cook's salary and that of a first round pick was a gamble just to get LeBron and Bosh is foolish.

imo the heat are so desperate to get wade some help in trying to sign lebron and bosh....well am not the only one who thinks this way i guess....cook wasnt being utilized properly thats true but dont u think this deal was a desperate move by heat FO for salary dump?

salary dump implies intent to sign more big name FA's

HiphopRelated
06-23-2010, 06:57 PM
Raja Bell has already said he wants to come to Miami, he's a vet min addition that would be ahead of Cook

eric1501
06-23-2010, 06:57 PM
Whiteside to Thunder?

Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Green/Ibaka
Whiteside

Wow!

shep33
06-23-2010, 06:58 PM
Raja Bell has already said he wants to come to Miami, he's a vet min addition that would be ahead of Cook

Supposedly he's had interest in the Lakers too though.

J$mo0th_3o5
06-23-2010, 06:59 PM
It saves us 3.3 mil. Thunder got a good deal too.

HiphopRelated
06-23-2010, 07:01 PM
Yes FA is the 1st plan, but cap space can also be used to swallow salaries in a trade.

Remember when Camby was given away? When teams are far under the cap, there are all kinds of possibilities.

Jonathan2323
06-23-2010, 07:01 PM
Supposedly he's had interest in the Lakers too though.

He lives in Miami and he said over the radio that Miami is 1st on his list and for Pat Riley to call him. If the Lakers offer more money then we will not get him.

mia305king
06-23-2010, 07:03 PM
People said the Heat are screwed because they traded Cook ? :laugh:

nikeking711
06-23-2010, 07:03 PM
u dont understand do u? argument is not about cook or his salary.....if lebron decides to stay in cleveland or goes to chicago or NY or clippers...then all this salary dump for heat is a waste.....this salary dump was meant to sign wade, lebron and bosh.....

I get what your saying. However, the Heat also could be opening space for Bosh/Joe Johnson, Amare/Joe Johnson, Bosh/Gay, Amare/Gay, Boozer,etc.

And then still have extra money to sign players who are worth more than the vet min. There are a lot of combinations the Heat can go for if LeBron doesn't sign.

Bruno
06-23-2010, 07:09 PM
Thats another good shooter to spread the floor in OKC.

29$JerZ
06-23-2010, 07:12 PM
As of now Miami only has Chalmers, Beasly, 32nd pick on the books lol
Wade will opt obviously

what54!?
06-23-2010, 07:14 PM
As of now Miami only has Chalmers, Beasly, 32nd pick on the books lol
Wade will opt obviouslyhe was already going too.....cook was no game changer. Us miami fans are happy to see him good he was garbage here.

tredigs
06-23-2010, 07:17 PM
Whiteside to Thunder?

Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Green/Ibaka
Whiteside

Wow!

How about this: Trade their first round 18th + 26th (small filler if necessary) picks to the spot they can ensure that they get Xavier Henry (projected anywhere from 11-15), then take Hassan Whiteside with the 21st pick.

PG: Westbrook
SG: Harden / Xavier Henry / Sefalosha (fill in for Durant depending if they want to go small)
SF: Durant / Cook
PF: Green / Ibaka
C: Kristic / Whiteside (He doesn't start at first, but soon)

That is a very real possibility and would make the rest of the league **** their pants at the potential. Hell they're already a 50 win team that is competing tough with the champs - and now with Cook and Henry to shore up their problem of weak outside shooters, along with some much needed depth at Center with Whiteside in there (although he's green, the guy may turn out to be a top 5 center), they are scary good.

ewing
06-23-2010, 07:18 PM
I understand that dumping contracts but I really dont think this type of trade should be approved.

Jonathan2323
06-23-2010, 07:19 PM
If we dont trade JJ and buy him out, after signing Wade, the Heat will have 32 mil in cap space.

abe_froman
06-23-2010, 07:19 PM
I get what your saying. However, the Heat also could be opening space for Bosh/Joe Johnson, Amare/Joe Johnson, Bosh/Gay, Amare/Gay, Boozer,etc.

And then still have extra money to sign players who are worth more than the vet min. There are a lot of combinations the Heat can go for if LeBron doesn't sign.

cant have such combination and keep wade(if he optrs out and resigns for max)...yes even now

when you sign a player you have a caphold charged against you,for each signed.and you must fillout a 12 man roster...sorry,but thats the rules

and yes you might not believe me,but you will find this out in july when it doesnt happen

yojoe792
06-23-2010, 07:20 PM
Gordon Hayward on the Thunder:drool:

knickerbockerny
06-23-2010, 07:20 PM
Wow Pat Riley and co are really taking a gamble! I do believe Amare is going to be in a Heat uniform though.

Tony_Starks
06-23-2010, 07:21 PM
well I guess the question about which team would you rather play for Miami or New York just got a lil bit more interesting....

HuRRiCaNeS324
06-23-2010, 07:24 PM
Why are people all of a sudden saying were screwed after we traded DEQUAN COOK AND A DRAFT PICK lol? Does it really matter that we dont have a first round pick when we now have 4 2nds?

Thats about 3 more million dollars we just gained that we can definitely use in the offseason.

td0tsfinest
06-23-2010, 07:25 PM
Sam Presti is the man. Now the thunder could end up getting a guy like Hassan Whiteside, whose stock is dropping past the lottery.

JWO35
06-23-2010, 07:26 PM
lol the Heat will be looking real stupid if they don't land anyone and Wade leaves, they will have to sign the best the D-League and Undrafted Rookies have to offer....Nah I think they will get CB4 tho.

Nice pickup for the Thunder

Bucsfan
06-23-2010, 07:29 PM
the thunder are the new lakers...get something for nothing

bal_ravens
06-23-2010, 07:31 PM
They sign 3 max free agents, have Beasley and the 32nd, Chalmers, and sign six junk players to fill the rest of the roster? I dont see that happening

Wade, a Max and use the rest of the money to get a quality starter and good bench players.

JasonJohnHorn
06-23-2010, 07:32 PM
I'm not too impressed with Cook, but if taking on a contract that is only a little over a mill gets you a first round pick, I'd take it too.

USM2012
06-23-2010, 07:32 PM
You people are acting like the Heat just traded a Star away for peanuts... We traded Daquen Cook who barely played for us and would make 2.2 million next year and then traded down from 18th to 32nd which says us another 1.1 million on cap holds while still getting a good 2nd round pick to have fill a roster spot. So we saved about 3.3 million which could very easily turn into a player like Steve Blake or Toney Allen or someone that would actually help the Heat next year unlike Cook! This free agency is so deep that we will be able to fine quality and quantity very easily. This move makes sense to Heat fans that understand what our organization is doing. It really isn't that dump as you guys think it is.

PhillyForLife90
06-23-2010, 07:41 PM
Wow good move for the Thunder. I wish them the best... I really like their team with all that potential just waiting to burst out.

justinnum1
06-23-2010, 07:41 PM
Yeah Cook doesnt suck it jus the Heat doesnt knw how to develop talent. Only Wade. Cook if coached right and used right big player of the bench. Can do alot more things then the Heat allowed him to do. Shoot the 3 and defend he is better than Tabo. Big Steal along with the 18th pick.

:facepalm:

Wade_County
06-23-2010, 07:46 PM
Beasley is gone, and i bet they buy out Jones, lol.

Carey
06-23-2010, 07:47 PM
You people are acting like the Heat just traded a Star away for peanuts... We traded Daquen Cook who barely played for us and would make 2.2 million next year and then traded down from 18th to 32nd which says us another 1.1 million on cap holds while still getting a good 2nd round pick to have fill a roster spot. So we saved about 3.3 million which could very easily turn into a player like Steve Blake or Toney Allen or someone that would actually help the Heat next year unlike Cook! This free agency is so deep that we will be able to fine quality and quantity very easily. This move makes sense to Heat fans that understand what our organization is doing. It really isn't that dump as you guys think it is.

It's a good trade for both sides, This is two teams both trying to make moves to contend but going about it different ways. Neither way is more right then the other, just different ways to go about it.

The Flash
06-23-2010, 07:50 PM
Heats beat writer Ira Winderman's perspective

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2010/06/the-space-race-officially-has-blasted-off.html

tredigs
06-23-2010, 07:51 PM
To make it clear - I don't think this is a bad move by the Heat at all. It's a risk, because this draft was deep enough that the 18th pick could have offered them a much needed addition to their team at a cheap price, but it's also something that their management must have thought was necessary in order to get the edge on these FA's (or close a deal that's already being worked behind the scenes).

Plus, like many Heat fans have said, Cook sucks at this point. He's definitely young enough that a change of scenery to a fresh franchise that is going places might steer him in the right direction though. Really all I see the Thunder using him for is a 10-20 minute a game guy (max) that will help spread the floor for them and knock down the open three that Thabo Sefalosha can't.

AI4MVP
06-23-2010, 07:53 PM
i dont think its a BAD move for the heat, but its pretty obvious who got the better of it...

Wade_County
06-23-2010, 07:54 PM
Heats beat writer Ira Winderman's perspective

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2010/06/the-space-race-officially-has-blasted-off.html

best part


Dump Beasley, and perhaps James Jonesí buyout, and there will be some validity to Super Max times three. (What say ye now LeBron insiders?)


still dont think it will happen but it looks like its all starting to happen

aslo


But who are we kidding? This is Pat Riley, and when he gambles, he goes all-in. :clap::clap:

AI4MVP
06-23-2010, 07:56 PM
if the thunder use the pick to get a good shot blocking center , preferrably hassan whiteside, they will best the lakers in a 7 game series next year

Carey
06-23-2010, 07:58 PM
To make it clear - I don't think this is a bad move by the Heat at all. It's a risk, because this draft was deep enough that the 18th pick could have offered them a much needed addition to their team at a cheap price, but it's also something that their management must have thought was necessary in order to get the edge on these FA's (or close a deal that's already being worked behind the scenes).

Plus, like many Heat fans have said, Cook sucks at this point. He's definitely young enough that a change of scenery to a fresh franchise that is going places might steer him in the right direction though. Really all I see the Thunder using him for is a 10-20 minute a game guy (max) that will help spread the floor for them and knock down the open three that Thabo Sefalosha can't.

We see Cook as depth at this point, we are much more excited about the 18th pick and the flexibility of having 3 first rounders now. Change of scenery can make a difference and this guy can still shoot the ball but i see just spot mins for him at this point, maybe a little bit more if he buys in, plays D and the change of scenery motivates him.

dbeastly
06-23-2010, 07:58 PM
Good luck Thunder.....guy wasn't consistent at all with us but maybe you guys will get lucky. Pretty much our mindset was to trade a contract and a potential contract for no contract....the catch is 2nd rounders don't get payed much. So we got the second best second rounder while still trading for what we wanted: money. Maybe we get a steal in the second round too......

Swashcuff
06-23-2010, 08:04 PM
Solid move for the Thunder real solid. Even if Cook doesn't go to his for of two years ago they stand a chance of getting a solid pic at 18. Who knows maybe the change of scenery could do him some good. He is a real talent. Just needs to find his niche.

The Flash
06-23-2010, 08:11 PM
It's Pat Riley's time right now...Cook was not what he was supposed to be (at least with the heat-Good luck thunder) and 18th pick doesnt guarantee nothing...I feel that Beasly is next because they can't dump JJ's contract without him (and i hate to see Beasly go i loved the guy and i know he'll turn out to be a star) , but Riley can work miracles and we should see nice things happening in the coming days.

Derick713
06-23-2010, 08:15 PM
The Thunder keeping making smart moves. From all Mock Drafts and rumors it seems like the Thunder will have a shot at landing Hassan Whiteside and Daniel Orton. The Thunder may even keep their third 1st Round Pick and take Larry Sanders. Daequan Cook is a better SG than most of the SG's in the 2010 Draft. He's a great shooter with great size. He's got the physical tools that are needed to be a great defender as well.

tredigs
06-23-2010, 08:16 PM
We see Cook as depth at this point, we are much more excited about the 18th pick and the flexibility of having 3 first rounders now. Change of scenery can make a difference and this guy can still shoot the ball but i see just spot mins for him at this point, maybe a little bit more if he buys in, plays D and the change of scenery motivates him.

Definitely, I would agree with this. Like I said I only see 10-20 minutes as his max; which you're right is reliant on whether he buys into the system and shows improvement over the past couple years. That said, the team still needs more players to spread the floor/knock down 3's and be solid complementary players to KD's style. The player for that system is Xavier Henry (along with James Harden and Jeff Green if they can become more consistent).

It's time that Sefalosha is removed from the starting lineup and becomes the player for them that Tony Allen was for the Celtics this past season (lockdown defender who comes in to play 15-20 minutes off the bench). So like I mentioned in a prior post, trade the 18th + 26th pick for the 13-15th pick and get Xavier Henry, then draft Hassan Whiteside with the 21st pick (a semi-raw 7foot freshman with a 7'7" wingspan who blocked 5+ a game as a freshman and scores efficiently without turning the ball over...).

Lineup =

PG: Westbrook
SG: Harden / X. Henry / Sefalosha
SF: Durant
PF: Green / Ibaka (I'd contemplate starting Ibaka at PF or C depending on his development this summer)
C: Kristic / H. Whiteside

I think you make a deep run this year and win the title in 2012 with that team - especially if they can move kristic and/or Collison and pick up a stronger Center to lead Ibaka (and the C they draft) along their way.

R_O_W_E
06-23-2010, 08:19 PM
Wow good move for the Thunder. I wish them the best... I really like their team with all that potential just waiting to burst out.

Pause.

X12Celtics3
06-23-2010, 08:24 PM
Definitely, I would agree with this. Like I said I only see 10-20 minutes as his max; which you're right is reliant on whether he buys into the system and shows improvement over the past couple years. That said, the team still needs more players to spread the floor/knock down 3's and be solid complementary players to KD's style. The player for that system is Xavier Henry (along with James Harden and Jeff Green if they can become more consistent).

It's time that Sefalosha is removed from the starting lineup and becomes the player for them that Tony Allen was for the Celtics this past season (lockdown defender who comes in to play 15-20 minutes off the bench). So like I mentioned in a prior post, trade the 18th + 26th pick for the 13-15th pick and get Xavier Henry, then draft Hassan Whiteside with the 21st pick (a semi-raw 7foot freshman with a 7'7" wingspan who blocked 5+ a game as a freshman and scores efficiently without turning the ball over...).

Lineup =

PG: Westbrook
SG: Harden / X. Henry / Sefalosha
SF: Durant
PF: Green / Ibaka (I'd contemplate starting Ibaka at PF or C depending on his development this summer)
C: Kristic / H. Whiteside

I think you make a deep run this year and win the title in 2012 with that team.

I've never seen Ibaka play, but a 6'10", 235 center seems a bit undersized. I know that the Thunder have a lack of big men at the moment, but somebody Ibaka's size (again, I could be totally wrong, because I've never seen him play) would probably be a liability when matched up with a decent center.

The Jokemaker
06-23-2010, 08:41 PM
Here's my problem with the move, if Cook was so terrible and they had no plans to even use the guy why acquire him. He has shown the ability to shoot the 3 and score points. Before people knock the guy maybe blame the heat for screwing up and not being able to utilize a player. I'd be mad that the team instead of deciding to keep him on the team and figure out a way to utilize a former first round pick decided it would be bst to move him and a mid round draft pick in a deep draft to save 3.3 million dollars. Seriously, 2.2 million for a bench player isn't bad in today's NBA. I'm not saying the move dooms the Heat but I'm questioning the logic that ultimately led to this move and behind it.

tredigs
06-23-2010, 08:53 PM
I've never seen Ibaka play, but a 6'10", 235 center seems a bit undersized. I know that the Thunder have a lack of big men at the moment, but somebody Ibaka's size (again, I could be totally wrong, because I've never seen him play) would probably be a liability when matched up with a decent center.

He's INSANELY athletic and is a premiere shot blocker and a solid defender, but you're right he's a bit undersized to play against certain centers (although look at guys like Ben Wallace, it's possible. But Ibaka is still raw). They generally run him at the 4, which is why I thought it would be a great decision for them to pick up a solid center in the draft such as Whiteside (7foot - 7'7" wingspan).

More big news from the Thunder camp: "Thunder holding serious talks with Pacers to trade Eric Maynor, 18th and 21st picks for Indy's 10th pick, sources tell Y!"
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

I really like this move for them, I can guarantee this is a play to try and snatch Greg Monroe out of Georgetown. He fits them perfect and would be game ready almost immediately, as opposed to a guy like Whiteside who is still a work in progress.

ATX
06-23-2010, 09:11 PM
You people are acting like the Heat just traded a Star away for peanuts... We traded Daquen Cook who barely played for us and would make 2.2 million next year and then traded down from 18th to 32nd which says us another 1.1 million on cap holds while still getting a good 2nd round pick to have fill a roster spot. So we saved about 3.3 million which could very easily turn into a player like Steve Blake or Toney Allen or someone that would actually help the Heat next year unlike Cook! This free agency is so deep that we will be able to fine quality and quantity very easily. This move makes sense to Heat fans that understand what our organization is doing. It really isn't that dump as you guys think it is.

I've never posted what I'm about to say, but

THIS!!^^^

Why are people acting like Mia got screwed? It was a trade, and by definition, was ideally great for BOTH teams. Thunder move up in the draft and get Cook (CRAP). Miami saves over 3 million, and grows ever nearer to the master plan. Even if that "Big 3" doesn't come to fruition, then that 3+ million, turns into a better contributor than Cook. It's good for both teams. I love the Thunder, 2nd favorite team to Miami, but I'm sad to see them getting Cook. He's garbage....Say what you will about the Heat's lack of being able to develop players, but Cook just flat out sucks. ALL he is, is a streaky shooter. He sucks at every other aspect of the game. He just stands around hoping for open looks. Good riddance. I hope both teams get better because of this trade and I believe they both will.

footballer2369
06-23-2010, 09:24 PM
This is a simple move- addition by subtraction...

By moving to 32 we get an early 2nd which doesn't have a guaranteed salary.
By moving Cook we dump 2 million in dead weight in a player that shot 29% last year.

We save 3 million.

By my calculations we now can afford the 3 max F/As with Beasley if we move Mario Chalmers and decline Jones' option (or trade Jones).

Giaps
06-23-2010, 09:26 PM
I'm surprised the Heat made this move. For all the talk about the Knicks and their bare roster, the Heat have far less players. They will need cheap talent to fill out their roster and Cook and that first rounder were cheap. Moving Beasley I could understand but not this.

HiphopRelated
06-23-2010, 09:33 PM
I'm surprised the Heat made this move. For all the talk about the Knicks and their bare roster, the Heat have far less players. They will need cheap talent to fill out their roster and Cook and that first rounder were cheap. Moving Beasley I could understand but not this.
key word there is talent, Cook doesn't qualify

cali72888
06-23-2010, 09:34 PM
The heat are going to do exactly what New York is attempting.

Nobody wants to play in New York.

Miami is smart to come in and offer the beaches, bikinis, and sunshine, while New York has its media and a bunch of fans who will love you one minute and hate you the next.

Jonathan2323
06-23-2010, 09:37 PM
The heat are going to do exactly what New York is attempting.

Nobody wants to play in New York.

Miami is smart to come in and offer the beaches, bikinis, and sunshine, while New York has its media and a bunch of fans who will love you one minute and hate you the next.

The one HUGE advantage the HEAT have over other teams is that Wade wants to be here and will recruit his friends to play with him.

*Silver&Black*
06-23-2010, 09:41 PM
The heat are going to do exactly what New York is attempting.

Nobody wants to play in New York.

Miami is smart to come in and offer the beaches, bikinis, and sunshine, while New York has its media and a bunch of fans who will love you one minute and hate you the next.

I'm kind of tired of hearing that. They are signing for millions of dollars to play basketball, not to hang out at beaches.

Also I doubt Lebron and Wade wants to play together. They want fame, money, and be the star of a team. Only one ball.

All I know is a few teams are going to get nothing. Other teams are going to over pay for players. And who is to say Amare doesn't stay with the Suns? Joe doesn't stay with the Hawks? Lebron doesn't stay with the Cavs?

Heat, Knicks, Nets, and Bulls are reaching right now.

Lord Leoshes
06-23-2010, 10:22 PM
u dont understand do u? argument is not about cook or his salary.....if lebron decides to stay in cleveland or goes to chicago or NY or clippers...then all this salary dump for heat is a waste.....this salary dump was meant to sign wade, lebron and bosh.....

Incorect.

Any combination of Bosh/Amare/Boozer/JJ/Gay will be enough.

ATX
06-23-2010, 10:41 PM
Incorect.

Any combination of Bosh/Amare/Boozer/JJ/Gay will be enough.

So true...Saying that if Miami doesn't land LBJ, then this salary dump is a waste is just wrong. Like you said, this FA class is FILLED with plenty of elite talent, and there are many directions that Miami can go. The world doesn't revolve around LeBron everywhere. It revolves around Wade in Miami.

dodie53
06-23-2010, 11:18 PM
freeing cap space move for the heat

Hoopsadvocate
06-23-2010, 11:29 PM
I'm kind of tired of hearing that. They are signing for millions of dollars to play basketball, not to hang out at beaches.

Also I doubt Lebron and Wade wants to play together. They want fame, money, and be the star of a team. Only one ball.

All I know is a few teams are going to get nothing. Other teams are going to over pay for players. And who is to say Amare doesn't stay with the Suns? Joe doesn't stay with the Hawks? Lebron doesn't stay with the Cavs?

Heat, Knicks, Nets, and Bulls are reaching right now.

Ya its not like they played on a team together before or anything....

BALLER71
06-23-2010, 11:39 PM
Wow, great deal for the Thunder. They get Eric Maynor for pretty much nothing, get the #18 pick and Cook for pretty much nothing. Presti is a genius.

Nice to get the 18th pick but Cook is awful.

*Silver&Black*
06-23-2010, 11:45 PM
Ya its not like they played on a team together before or anything....

one that won an NBA title?

DWills
06-23-2010, 11:54 PM
lol at this thread.....

The Heat are screwed cause they traded Cook?? Really?>? Do u people even watch basketball???? lawlllllllllllllllllllllllllll.....I live down here and can promise u, if we coulda traded Cook for a bag o balls we would of.....hes absolutely awful and plays zero defense when he does play.....

There is absolutely no chance Wade doesn't resign......hes been recruitin for the team since January for christ sake!!!! Wade is not goin anywhere. And Riley's been plannin this since January......do u really think he doesn't know somethin we don't???

Beasley is next and will be sent to Toronto in some S & T for Bosh and Lebron and DWade, will both sign their contracts the same day on Ocean Dr.....

And LOL @ a lineup of of Wade/Bosh/James not bein able to win.....dude.....anyone of us could lineup with them and they'd still win 70 games....

BALLER71
06-23-2010, 11:54 PM
one that won an NBA title?

One that won a Gold Medal. :whistle:

*Silver&Black*
06-23-2010, 11:58 PM
One that won a Gold Medal. :whistle:

That also had every other important NBA player on the team (All-star PGs demanding of the ball, who is going to control the O on a Wade and Lebron only offense?). Try that on an 82 game paycheck (job) team game, where Wade likes to scream on tables "This is my city or team or whatever he screams"! I doubt it will be his team if the Lebron show comes down.

td0tsfinest
06-24-2010, 12:00 AM
I really don't think Cook is going to get a lot of minutes with the Thunder. The 2 spot is going to be split amongst Thabo and Harden and Thabo is probably going to play some 3 when Durant is resting.

The real asset in this deal was the 18th pick. The draft may not a lot of potential superstars but it is deep in serviceable players. Bledsoe, Whiteside and Orton are guys that could fall to the 18th.

BALLER71
06-24-2010, 12:19 AM
I really don't think Cook is going to get a lot of minutes with the Thunder. The 2 spot is going to be split amongst Thabo and Harden and Thabo is probably going to play some 3 when Durant is resting.

The real asset in this deal was the 18th pick. The draft may not a lot of potential superstars but it is deep in serviceable players. Bledsoe, Whiteside and Orton are guys that could fall to the 18th.

Orton's stock is going down. I didn't catch the whole reason as to why it's falling but I saw it on TV. Shoot, he might even be there at our pick (now 32)

Pornstar86
06-24-2010, 12:46 AM
this still wouldnt make them contenders....bcoz bosh is not much of a shot blocker and that team lacks some size in the post

ur an idiot...wade and lebron alone would be contenders

SugeKnight
06-24-2010, 01:06 AM
can u say rape?

hugepatsfan
06-24-2010, 01:15 AM
MIA should have made OKC take back James Jones. Isn't part of his deal guaranteed?

jackdawson
06-24-2010, 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by avrpatsfan
The Heat only have 7,979,096 dollars locked up for next year. If the Heat can convince the big FA to sign like only 2 million dollars under market value this could be their possible lineup.
PG: Decent PG
SG: Wade
SF: Lebron
PF: Beasley
C: Bosh

^^^
this still wouldnt make them contenders....bcoz bosh is not much of a shot blocker and that team lacks some size in the post

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

hugepatsfan
06-24-2010, 02:34 AM
^^^

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

What tdunk said is true. MIA would not win a title w/ Bosh at the C spot. You need some size in the middle.

jackdawson
06-24-2010, 04:25 AM
he meant.....heat is trying to do everything to sign 3 max players including wade....if for some reason lebron and bosh have different plans then thats a setback....dont u think?

who said that it has to be only LeBron and Bosh??? Amare, JJ, and Boozer have all openly expressed to play for the Heat, which they didn't say for any other specific team. A trio any of these two player with Wade will be considered a big three.

zambo4president
06-24-2010, 05:21 AM
Thunder's GM is pretty smart. Get's himself an upgrade with Cook over Maynor and gives up the #18 #21 and #32 pick for #10

ATX
06-24-2010, 08:33 AM
That also had every other important NBA player on the team (All-star PGs demanding of the ball, who is going to control the O on a Wade and Lebron only offense?). Try that on an 82 game paycheck (job) team game, where Wade likes to scream on tables "This is my city or team or whatever he screams"! I doubt it will be his team if the Lebron show comes down.

No, no..."This is my house!"

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3ZsyIy0T4&feature=related

Carey
06-24-2010, 08:53 AM
Definitely, I would agree with this. Like I said I only see 10-20 minutes as his max; which you're right is reliant on whether he buys into the system and shows improvement over the past couple years. That said, the team still needs more players to spread the floor/knock down 3's and be solid complementary players to KD's style. The player for that system is Xavier Henry (along with James Harden and Jeff Green if they can become more consistent).

It's time that Sefalosha is removed from the starting lineup and becomes the player for them that Tony Allen was for the Celtics this past season (lockdown defender who comes in to play 15-20 minutes off the bench). So like I mentioned in a prior post, trade the 18th + 26th pick for the 13-15th pick and get Xavier Henry, then draft Hassan Whiteside with the 21st pick (a semi-raw 7foot freshman with a 7'7" wingspan who blocked 5+ a game as a freshman and scores efficiently without turning the ball over...).

Lineup =

PG: Westbrook
SG: Harden / X. Henry / Sefalosha
SF: Durant
PF: Green / Ibaka (I'd contemplate starting Ibaka at PF or C depending on his development this summer)
C: Kristic / H. Whiteside

I think you make a deep run this year and win the title in 2012 with that team - especially if they can move kristic and/or Collison and pick up a stronger Center to lead Ibaka (and the C they draft) along their way.

I think we will def. do something to this extent, a wing and a center prospect. I've heard they like Gordon Hayward alot recently but i think Henry would be a nice fit as well. Thabo i think will still be the starter but i think you'll see Harden cut into his mins some.

69centers
06-24-2010, 04:51 PM
Miami dumping some salary and their 18th pick for the 32nd pick:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2010-06-24-1946680702_x.htm

tdunk21
06-24-2010, 04:52 PM
u r very late bro....this news has been posted long ago..

discussion here

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498666

HeatBBall
06-24-2010, 04:53 PM
/thread

X12Celtics3
06-24-2010, 04:53 PM
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498666

LTBaByyy
06-24-2010, 04:54 PM
Miami dumping some salary and their 18th pick for the 32nd pick:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2010-06-24-1946680702_x.htm

:facepalm: Late Fee

69centers
06-24-2010, 04:55 PM
Sorry, it must have been buried, as I checked the last 2 days and didn't see it.

The Raven
06-24-2010, 05:49 PM
thats a hell of a steal for the thunder when all the heat are trying to do is clear cap space