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R_O_W_E
06-21-2010, 06:33 PM
The Timberwolves have reportedly rejected an offer of the No. 10 pick from the Pacers in exchange for Jonny Flynn.

If the Pacers couldn't get Flynn with the No. 10 pick, it's hard to imagine them getting Ty Lawson or Darren Collison straight up for the pick, either. George Hill could be in play, but the Pacers will likely have to sweeten the pot. And if Flynn is on the blocks, Ramon Sessions could see a big jump in value next season.


http://twitter.com/Wells222/status/16717504409

Im sorry but Paul George at #10 >>>>>>>> Jonny Flynn

natelpete
06-21-2010, 06:37 PM
They might be able to get George at 16.

Giaps
06-21-2010, 06:38 PM
Surprised Minny turned this down. If they expect Rubio to play next season, they could fill a big need at #10 in a deep draft... unless they plan on making a different move with Flynn.

td0tsfinest
06-21-2010, 06:39 PM
Johnny Flynn had a good 09-10 campaign. Why is this a complete shocker? Considering Flynn went a lot earlier than 10 last year (in a pretty deep draft) and George could be drafted at any spot between 10 to 16.

Also, how long have you had that sig for.

R_O_W_E
06-21-2010, 06:39 PM
They might be able to get George at 16.

George is going in the Lottery. If hes on the board at #11, New Orleans would embarrass their franchise by not taking him.

Hawkeye15
06-21-2010, 06:40 PM
Flynn was a #6 pick last year, and actually had a very good rookie season. It would not have been a good deal for Minnesota. Plus, having 3 picks is plenty, and Flynn has proven he will be an NBA player.
George may very well be there at #16.

WSU Tony
06-21-2010, 06:40 PM
Flynn for #10

#10 and #4 for #2.

Rubio
Turner
George
Love
Jefferson.

R_O_W_E
06-21-2010, 06:41 PM
Johnny Flynn had a good 09-10 campaign. Why is this a complete shocker? Considering Flynn went a lot earlier than 10 last year (in a pretty deep draft) and George could be drafted at any spot between 10 to 16.
If you redo the draft right now 6 PG's are going before Flynn. Jrue is debatable for #7. Flynn barely shot over 40% from the field this season and his value in the triangle will never get any higher.




Also, how long have you had that sig for.

A few hours.

Giaps
06-21-2010, 06:45 PM
A few hours.
Enjoy it while it lasts. :)

ChiSox219
06-21-2010, 06:51 PM
If you redo the draft right now 6 PG's are going before Flynn. Jrue is debatable for #7. Flynn barely shot over 40% from the field this season and his value in the triangle will never get any higher.


Agreed, Minnesota might want to take a second look at this deal.

I like Sessions as the starter until RR comes.

bmac_121
06-21-2010, 06:52 PM
I don't see why this is such a shocker. When he as drafted last year I felt he was gonna be the best pg comming out of the draft when it was all said and done, and he had a pretty productive rookie year. He still could be. I wouldn't have done it either.

R_O_W_E
06-21-2010, 07:00 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts. :)

There is no nudity. I dont know why I would have to remove it.

:cool:

abe_froman
06-21-2010, 07:00 PM
Flynn for #10

#10 and #4 for #2.

Rubio
Turner
George
Love
Jefferson.

dreaming?


anyways,they are high on flynn to be the guy until rubio gets there and george can be anywhere between 8-17

thenetslegend
06-21-2010, 07:02 PM
suxks for pacer fans. they have been looking for a real pg for years

Sixerlover
06-21-2010, 07:03 PM
Flynn for #10

#10 and #4 for #2.

Rubio
Turner
George
Love
Jefferson.

I knew someone was going to bring this up :D. Philly passes, we're taking Turner end of story.

Minny did the right thing in not trading Flynn for #10.

R_O_W_E
06-21-2010, 07:05 PM
Agreed, Minnesota might want to take a second look at this deal.

I like Sessions as the starter until RR comes.

I forgot about Sessions.:(

Sessions is much better than Flynn, he can score much easier, is a better defender, and a better passer. Flynn just has better range on his shot.

Sessions averaged 18.5/7, 13/7, & 14/10 to end last season with Milwaukee.

The same guy who went for 20 points and 24 assists in his rookie year.

magichatnumber9
06-21-2010, 07:07 PM
I'm sorry what has Paul George done other then make a nice youtube mix with Jay z and Rhinanna? He didn't do **** at Fresno St.

R_O_W_E
06-21-2010, 07:07 PM
I knew someone was going to bring this up :D. Philly passes, we're taking Turner end of story.

Minny did the right thing in not trading Flynn for #10.

Does Philly need Turner that bad?

Philly could grab Cousins or Favors at #4 and grab a shooter like Babbit at #10.

njnets
06-21-2010, 07:07 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts. :)

agreed, i see the sig comin off too lol. girl is pretty hot btw

Sixerlover
06-21-2010, 07:10 PM
Does Philly need Turner that bad?

Philly could grab Cousins or Favors at #4 and grab a shooter like Babbit at #10.

Yep. We need the potential franchise revitalizing player to help build excitement again. Fans are actually pumped over Turner and basketball for the first time in a long time because of the Jrue - Turner tandem, and it makes a lot of sense on the court.

Plus he is BPA after John Wall. And I wouldn't deal the 2nd best player in the draft.

abe_froman
06-21-2010, 07:10 PM
Does Philly need Turner that bad?

Philly could grab Cousins or Favors at #4 and grab a shooter like Babbit at #10.

yes and no,position wise no.but yes in the sense they need the excitement,and potential franchise player status that he brings

abe_froman
06-21-2010, 07:12 PM
agreed, i see the sig comin off too lol. girl is pretty hot btw

ehhh,great booty and moves but her face kinda ruins it

Sixerlover
06-21-2010, 07:13 PM
yes and no,position wise no.but yes in the sense they need the excitement,and potential franchise player status that he brings
Position wise they need him as well. Turner is a 2 guard. We have 1 two guard on the roster and his name is Jodie Meeks.. We need a 2



ehhh,great booty and moves but her face kinda ruins it

^ Same thing I was thinking!

THE MTL
06-21-2010, 07:17 PM
http://twitter.com/Wells222/status/16717504409

Im sorry but Paul George at #10 >>>>>>>> Jonny Flynn

I think I just ______ from your sig. OMG! She would GET IT!!!!

R_O_W_E
06-21-2010, 07:17 PM
ehhh,great booty and moves but her face kinda ruins it

Her face isn't that bad. 7/10 and I have high e-standards.

She would look much better making an O face.

Tony_Starks
06-21-2010, 07:20 PM
For any other team that is halfway decent at drafting I would have snapped that offer up. But if you're a Minny fan the LAST thing you want is more draft opportunities. I've never seen a team draft 4 pg's and their main one isn't even a top 5 pg of the draft.

That was a debacle of a blunder of a draft last year. It could've possibly turned the franchise around too...

abe_froman
06-21-2010, 07:22 PM
Her face isn't that bad. 7/10 and I have high e-standards.

She would look much better making an O face.

i hate rating on scale ,just personal opinion

RenegadeRiot36
06-21-2010, 07:46 PM
i like the decline. its not too smart from a twolves needs standpoint but personally flynn was my favorite player to watch in the ncaa two years ago and is a stud in the nba

Hellcrooner
06-21-2010, 07:48 PM
good move b minessota rfusing to undo the MISTAKE tha avoided them from getting Rubio to lay last year.

Yeh had the drafted ANYTHING but a PG with pick 6 Rubio would alrady have been there.

Yet the prove again they are not really comitted to him by refusing to take a good player in OTHR position specally knowing they have sessions to cover pg.

Hellcrooner
06-21-2010, 07:49 PM
my bet is with 4 10 and second round picks they draft 6 more point guards.

PurpleJesus
06-21-2010, 07:54 PM
my bet is with 4 10 and second round picks they draft 6 more point guards.

the wolves have two point guards...most teams have three, the wolves have two.

SpeeMN
06-21-2010, 07:55 PM
Its a good pass on the trade.

We don't need to give him up for the number ten because we are not that desperate for another pick.

And Flynn would prove to everyone how good he is if he played for the Pacers. And the Twolves would be seen as the loser in the trade. We just drafted him as the 6th pick, then started him for the year. No way we move down four spots in a trade.

Tony_Starks
06-21-2010, 07:55 PM
ehhh,great booty and moves but her face kinda ruins it


For pete's sake what more do you want! Her face is just fine.

abe_froman
06-21-2010, 08:00 PM
For pete's sake what more do you want! Her face is just fine.

i pretty face! lol ..ehhh i like better than "just fine"

Big Quett
06-21-2010, 08:00 PM
ehhh,great booty and moves but her face kinda ruins it
WAIT!!!! She has a face?:shrug:

The Jokemaker
06-21-2010, 08:03 PM
I would have turned it down too. Flynn had a good rookie year and who knows when the Wolves will get Rubio.

Flynn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.#10 pick

Big Quett
06-21-2010, 08:05 PM
Flynn was a #6 pick last year, and actually had a very good rookie season. It would not have been a good deal for Minnesota. Plus, having 3 picks is plenty, and Flynn has proven he will be an NBA player.
George may very well be there at #16.

I mean he was the #6 player in the draft. But in a redraft would he really go before Jennings, Collison or Curry again? And maybe not before Roddy B and Ty. Ty may be coin toss. But i think Roddy is a bigger and more explosive version of Flynn

Tony_Starks
06-21-2010, 08:06 PM
i pretty face! lol ..ehhh i like better than "just fine"



Haha! Hey I bet if Indianna had included her in the deal then Minny would've been like "peace out Jonny!"

PurpleJesus
06-21-2010, 08:07 PM
indiana may yet get flynn

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/16729358922

badkins1121
06-21-2010, 08:07 PM
There is more to this. This is from Yahoo...


Minnesota offering Jonny Flynn and two first-round picks (16 and 23) to Indiana for a package that includes the 10th pick,

carter15
06-21-2010, 08:09 PM
There is more to this. This is from Yahoo...

bk wadup

Big Quett
06-21-2010, 08:19 PM
indiana may yet get flynn

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/16729358922


Minnesota offering Jonny Flynn and two first-round picks (16 and 23) to Indiana for a package that includes the 10th pick, sources tell Y!

WOW!!!! So this is Minny's idea? Has to be more to it

DR. Pepper
06-21-2010, 09:54 PM
****. what am i gonna do with my flynn shirt now :mad: ... tyler hansbourough coming back to Minny then?

dwadefan03
06-21-2010, 10:06 PM
wow suprised minny didnt accept, seems kinda stupid to me. im not really a big johnny flynn fan. jeez imagine what they could have done with that pick. they couldve gotten cousins at 4, george at 10 and then they couldve traded ajeff for one of the packages that over half the league is offering them. plus theyd have multiple draft picks left and theyd still have a capable starting point guard in ramon sessions. Wow they really blew one here.

As for the pacer....why the hell do they want johnny flynn. If anything they shouldve tried to go after collison or lawson. those two are much better options.

Giaps
06-21-2010, 10:20 PM
the wolves have two point guards...most teams have three, the wolves have two.
Hey PJ, your blatant hatred for New York is sad at this point. What's up with the fake LBJ quote? And you complain about New Yorkers being smug, yet you instigate confrontation in your sig? How hypocritical. :rolleyes:

Lakersho
06-21-2010, 10:31 PM
There is no nudity. I dont know why I would have to remove it.

:cool:

funny sig...:clap:

td0tsfinest
06-21-2010, 10:31 PM
Hmm...so its Minny's idea? I think they're giving up a lot for 10th pick.

PurpleJesus
06-21-2010, 10:48 PM
Hmm...so its Minny's idea? I think they're giving up a lot for 10th pick.

indian offered #10 for Flynn...Minnesota rejected it. They countered with a deal that includes flynn #16 and #23 for a package that includes #10...package is the key word

PurpleJesus
06-21-2010, 10:50 PM
Hey PJ, your blatant hatred for New York is sad at this point. What's up with the fake LBJ quote? And you complain about New Yorkers being smug, yet you instigate confrontation in your sig? How hypocritical. :rolleyes:

its not a fake quote...and i barely post in the main forum...ill take it down if it bothers you so much...when have i complained about new yorkers being smug...Lebron being a FA and NY being in the mix is a big story right now...hence the sig

IAmKira
06-21-2010, 10:56 PM
Who's the booty shaking girl!? O.o

natelpete
06-21-2010, 10:57 PM
granger and #10 for Flynn #16 and #23

my god i would love that

LA_Raiders
06-21-2010, 10:57 PM
Rubio is not going to minny, so keeping Flynn is a good move

PurpleJesus
06-21-2010, 10:58 PM
granger and #10 for Flynn #16 and #23

my god i would love that

wolves would have to include jefferson in that deal, and even then it probably gets turned down

natelpete
06-21-2010, 11:01 PM
wolves would have to include jefferson in that deal, and even then it probably gets turned down

Ok I was joking about the Granger and 10 for Flynn 16 and 23.. I hope you were also joking about adding jefferson to that

natelpete
06-21-2010, 11:08 PM
Granger, Ford, 10 for Flynn, Jefferson, 16, 23?

or

Hibbert, 10 for Flynn, 16, 23?

Idk which is more realistic.

td0tsfinest
06-21-2010, 11:09 PM
There is no nudity. I dont know why I would have to remove it.

:cool:


Nudity or things that wouldn't be shown on TV in signatures is not acceptable. There have been a lot of signatures lately pushing this. Please ask yourself before you put on the signature if it is questionable. If it is questionable, just find something else.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256816

So ask yourself. :cool:


granger and #10 for Flynn #16 and #23

my god i would love that

I'm guessing your wolves fan :rolleyes:

Giaps
06-21-2010, 11:15 PM
its not a fake quote...and i barely post in the main forum...ill take it down if it bothers you so much...when have i complained about new yorkers being smug...Lebron being a FA and NY being in the mix is a big story right now...hence the sig
When did he say that?

reemy
06-21-2010, 11:15 PM
my bet is with 4 10 and second round picks they draft 6 more point guards.

nice joke i never heard it before :rolleyes:

WSU Tony
06-21-2010, 11:20 PM
Hey PJ, your blatant hatred for New York is sad at this point. What's up with the fake LBJ quote? And you complain about New Yorkers being smug, yet you instigate confrontation in your sig? How hypocritical. :rolleyes:

The NYK banners hanging a bit arrogant, don't you think?

beasted86
06-21-2010, 11:26 PM
Hahahaha.... I'm 100% certain Paul George isn't going in the top 10. :laugh:

JNA17
06-21-2010, 11:27 PM
you realize the wolves are not gonna trade any of there PGs unless the deal involves another PG right?

PurpleJesus
06-21-2010, 11:33 PM
you realize the wolves are not gonna trade any of there PGs unless the deal involves another PG right?

right, cause if they traded flynn or sessions they would be left with only one PG, it would be nice to have a backup at that position

cardinals1226
06-21-2010, 11:47 PM
Granger, Ford, 10 for Flynn, Jefferson, 16, 23?

or

Hibbert, 10 for Flynn, 16, 23?

Idk which is more realistic.

The first one has a better chance than the second. Hibbert is definitely not going anywhere and chances of Granger, is even slimmer.

Hawkeye15
06-21-2010, 11:52 PM
I mean he was the #6 player in the draft. But in a redraft would he really go before Jennings, Collison or Curry again? And maybe not before Roddy B and Ty. Ty may be coin toss. But i think Roddy is a bigger and more explosive version of Flynn

that is fine and everything, but being a rookie PG in the best year I can remember for rookie PGs, and playing the way he did, nope, I am not trading him for the #10 pick in this years draft.
And draft redos are fun, arent they? Cmon dude. You are too good of a poster to start bringing up what ifs, and Flynn was a very good rookie

Hawkeye15
06-21-2010, 11:54 PM
Rubio is not going to minny, so keeping Flynn is a good move

thank god someone in Rubio's camp finally posted here. Now I can stop worrying

JNA17
06-21-2010, 11:54 PM
right, cause if they traded flynn or sessions they would be left with only one PG, it would be nice to have a backup at that position

i was only joking :p

Hawkeye15
06-21-2010, 11:55 PM
you realize the wolves are not gonna trade any of there PGs unless the deal involves another PG right?

your a Wolves hater.
Man, it feels nice to be able to throw the "hater" term out there if someone defies my team. I wish I were a Laker fan so I could do this all day...

Hawkeye15
06-22-2010, 12:01 AM
i was only joking :p

we know dude, just giving you crap

Kyben36
06-22-2010, 12:09 AM
when did they draft flynn, if its not at the same spot they drafted him or higher, I would have turned it down too.

JNA17
06-22-2010, 12:09 AM
your a Wolves hater.

actually yes, i was a wolves hater last season, but now since i have a man crush on kevin love, i like them now :D

Stunner
06-22-2010, 12:47 AM
Hahahaha.... I'm 100% certain Paul George isn't going in the top 10. :laugh:

Yeah he is going 17 to the Bulls. :)

Kakaroach
06-22-2010, 12:56 AM
I wouldn't do that pick either unless its on draft day and the #10 pick is on the clock. No guarantee the guy your looking at is gonna be there when the time comes so just make the trade then.

hgtiger32
06-22-2010, 01:04 AM
they need a scorer/slasher...wes johnson if he's there would be good, lotta options in draft oh ten

topdog
06-22-2010, 01:25 AM
Why didn't Indiana just draft a PG last year! No, let's take Tyler Hansborough... And everyone was giving the Wolves **** for taking two:pity:

PatelJ1010
06-22-2010, 01:42 AM
Flynn and Hansbourgh looks nice but T.J Ford isn't contributing as much because of injuries and Earl Watson is a decent but not starter material back-up. This has to be a 3-team trade maybe for Chris Paul (just a guess dont jump on me). That is way too much to sacrifice for the Wolves unless they get Future picks... Flynn+ 16+23 for Granger and #10 just seems lopsided... Is Rubio coming to play this year and WOLVES know it?

fredv
06-22-2010, 08:06 AM
Lowry > Flynn

Lowry for 10th straight up since the Pacers are ********. Get r dun morey, maybe add Jared Jeffries and get Granger in return?

LOL but seriously, this deal is ********, Wolves should have took it. Then package 10+4 for 2, get Turner and call it a day.
Then they can get whoever they want with the 16th and sell/trade that late first for a veteran to manage all these kids.

Wouldn't be surprised if theres a lot of trades Thursday night, hopefully the Rockets land Cousins and steal Rubio while there at it.
14+NY 2011+HOU 2011+Ariza+Hill+Budinger+a 2nd for 4+Rubio

S-Dot
06-22-2010, 08:13 AM
could have been a solid trade for both teams. I guess Minn still isnt fully sure about the Rubio situation, and what will happen when he comes

WSU Tony
06-22-2010, 08:48 AM
could have been a solid trade for both teams. I guess Minn still isnt fully sure about the Rubio situation, and what will happen when he comes


Or they don't want to trade a #6 pick the previous year for a #10 pick this year...


lol.

WSU Tony
06-22-2010, 08:49 AM
Yeah he is going 17 to the Bulls. :)

Wolves guaranteed George they'd pick him at #16.

Sorry!

S-Dot
06-22-2010, 09:04 AM
Or they don't want to trade a #6 pick the previous year for a #10 pick this year...


lol.

you could afford to make that move if you also drafted rubio as your #5 pick in that same draft. It just depends on if they think rubio will play for them and not demand a trade immediately.

magichatnumber9
06-22-2010, 09:16 AM
There is no nudity. I dont know why I would have to remove it.

:cool:
I love when she sticks her tongue out... yowzahh

Giaps
06-22-2010, 09:18 AM
The NYK banners hanging a bit arrogant, don't you think?
LOL To me it's hilarious. Do you really think I believe we are going to win 17 straight championships? It's jsut a really awesome photoshop.

beasted86
06-22-2010, 11:27 AM
Yeah he is going 17 to the Bulls. :)

Don't know... but nobody is wasting a lottery pick on Paul George. That's for sure.

Stunner
06-22-2010, 12:55 PM
The Raptors and Wolves have discussed a deal that would send Hedo Turkoglu and the No. 13 pick in exchange for Corey Brewer and the No. 23 pick, a source tells Hoopsworld's Alex Kennedy.

Stunner
06-22-2010, 12:56 PM
Wolves guaranteed George they'd pick him at #16.

Sorry!

NOPE u dummies gonna trade that to the Pacers with Johnny Flynn lmao. Plus u guys dont even like good SG u allways trade them away lmao.

R_O_W_E
06-22-2010, 12:57 PM
NOPE u dummies gonna trade that to the Pacers with Johnny Flynn lmao

If George is sitting there at #16, I will suck my own dick on a live stream.

George was invited to the Green Room because he probably knows hes going to be a Lottery Pick.

Stunner
06-22-2010, 01:00 PM
If George is sitting there at #16, I will suck my own dick on a live stream.

George was invited to the Green Room because he probably knows hes going to be a Lottery Pick.

yeah i think somebody gonna pick him but im hoping the Bulls trade up or he falls if not Anderson wont be bad. But real talk the only SG I see going in the lottery is Henry.

JOSKOMANG4
06-22-2010, 01:08 PM
The Raptors and Wolves have discussed a deal that would send Hedo Turkoglu and the No. 13 pick in exchange for Corey Brewer and the No. 23 pick, a source tells Hoopsworld's Alex Kennedy.

NOt sure if Hedo would show up if he was traded to the T'Wolves. If traded, he'll be going to a contender.

I think the Lakers should work a deal w/ the raptors for both Calderon & Hedo; maybe in exchanged for 3 expiring contracts; Farmar, Morrison,Vujacic, & 2 future 1st rd picks.

Lakers lineup:

C) Bynum
PF) Gasol
SF) Artest
SG) Kobe
PG) Calderon

Bench:

SF/SG Hedu
PF/SF Odom
SF L.Walton
PG S.Brown
C/PF J.Powell
C Mbenga

Raptors:

C) Bargnani
PF) A.Johnson
SF) Weems
SG) Derozen
PG) Jack

Bench:

SG Vujajic
PG Farmar
SF Morrison
PF R.Evans
SF/SG Bellenelli
PG M.Banks
C Nesterovic
PF/SF J.Dorsey
C/PF POps Bonsu

Hawkeye15
06-22-2010, 01:22 PM
Flynn was a #6 pick who put up good numbers. The #10 pick, at the moment, is not worth Flynn. If we could get Philly to agree in principal to trade #2, for #4, #10, then yes, do it.
And the Brewer/picks for Hedo/pick had better be bogus. I don't want Hedo anywhere near my team

R_O_W_E
06-22-2010, 01:22 PM
yeah i think somebody gonna pick him but im hoping the Bulls trade up or he falls if not Anderson wont be bad. But real talk the only SG I see going in the lottery is Henry.

I agree.

Anderson would be a horrible pick up for Chicago though. Hes a good offensive player but he plays 0 defense, hes like a slightly taller Rashad McCants without the ego. I watched him at OKState on a few of those Big Monday's for Big 12 basketball. He takes every shot without 2 hands in his face. Chicago needs to take a look at Aubrey Coleman instead in Round 2. He really is a beast who can adjust his game and play defense too.

JasonJohnHorn
06-22-2010, 01:24 PM
Please trade that #10 pick to the Spurs for Hill. Please! Please! Please!

Hawkeye15
06-22-2010, 01:25 PM
Please trade that #10 pick to the Spurs for Hill. Please! Please! Please!

you must be an Indy fan haha. Hill is worth more than the #10 pick imo

Stunner
06-22-2010, 01:31 PM
I agree.

Anderson would be a horrible pick up for Chicago though. Hes a good offensive player but he plays 0 defense, hes like a slightly taller Rashad McCants without the ego. I watched him at OKState on a few of those Big Monday's for Big 12 basketball. He takes every shot without 2 hands in his face. Chicago needs to take a look at Aubrey Coleman instead in Round 2. He really is a beast who can adjust his game and play defense too.

Yeah but Anderson not that bad on D he kinda reminds me of Jason Richardson he really needs to play next to a good PG which is Rose to excell since he was the man and had the ball in his hand at OKState. And with Tibbs as the coach can really help him on defense and we dont have a 2nd round pick which sucks.


interesting breakdown of anderson.hoops analyst:

James Anderson, Oklahoma State: Iíve had Anderson ranked as the top perimeter player not named Wall or Turner since about mid-February when it was clear Dominique Jonesí scary good January was just a fluke. My last draft update had him at #7 overall. The reason for this is pretty simple. James Anderson has put up numbers that place him in some elite company as far as junior SGs are concerned. Here is a list of SGs who topped both 25.0 P40 and 9.0 RSB40 during their junior seasons as Anderson did this past year:NCAA Junior SG
2 pt pct
3 pt pct
P40
RSB40
S40
A/TO
Michael Jordan
.551
n/a
26.5
10.8
2.2
1.0
Dwyane Wade
.519
.318
26.8
12.2
2.7
1.4
Hersey Hawkins
.592
.287
28.6
9.7
2.1
1.0
Ray Allen
.477
.466
26.9
10.1
2.0
1.4
Harold Miner
.472
.352
30.3
9.6
1.3
0.7
Donny Boyce
.431
.317
26.1
12.2
2.6
1.2
Reggie Freeman
.417
.322
25.3
10.5
1.6
1.0
James Anderson
.549
.341
26.2
9.2
1.6
1.0


The difference between the stars and flops is the stars hit well over 50% of their 2-point shots. The flops were well below 50%. Never mind Ray Allenís number. As was mentioned in the last article, Allen posted a .548 and .515 while scoring 23.4 and 25.7 as a frosh and soph respectively. This was just a down year for him and his all-star NBA career confirms this. This was also a down shooting year for Harold Miner, but Miner has the low steals number and a low A/TO as a junior that should have been red flags. James Anderson sits well on the good side of 50%, at .549. This is why I have Anderson ranked so high. Of course this doesnít tell the whole story. Andersonís RSB40 is lower than the rest of this group and he doesnít get the steals the others had. For me it is difficult to just rate a player as an all-star based on a few numbers. Especially in a case like this where if I arbitrarily moved the RSB40 qualifying line up to 9.5, he wouldnít qualify.

I guess the big question here is whether James Anderson is a SG or SF. Heís a much better prospect as a SG. The official OSU athletic site and ESPN both have him as a guard. DraftExpress.com has him listed as a SG/SF and ranks him as a SF. On the court he played more on the perimeter than ever this past year. This is evidenced not only by a look at the PT given to players on the roster, but the fact that his passing numbers improved so much this year. As a sophomore he was the tallest player on the team of the top 5 in minutes played and likely played a lot of forward that year. A look at the numbers from his soph and junior seasons suggest a different player:James Anderson
2 pt pct
3 pt pct
P40
A40
TO40
RSB40
Sophomore
.548
.408
21.8
1.6
2.4
9.0
Junior
.549
.341
26.2
2.9
2.8
9.2


The two big changes were the 3 pt pct and the assists. The 3 pt pct isnít all that important, because it is something that can fluctuate from year to year. The fact he was over 40% at one time is good. The higher assists total in his junior year suggests a player who was likely in the backcourt more often. Looking at this I donít see why James Anderson shouldnít be listed as a SG when he had his greatest college success playing that position as a junior.

The next thing to look at is the low number of steals Anderson posted compared to the stars on the original list and whether or not this should be considered a concern. After looking at other junior SGs, I would say it isnít a big problem for Anderson as a prospect, but it does mean heís at least a few notches below the all-time SGs. It would be better if he were over 2.0 S40. But he still has a higher S40 than all-star SGs Michael Finley, Richard Hamilton, Michael Redd, Steve Smith, Reggie Miller, Allan Houston and Brandon Roy posted as juniors. With steals it seems more important to be over say, 1.3 or so, which Anderson is. While this might label him more of a Miller-type of SG than a Jordan-type, Iím not pushing him as anything but that.

There isnít too much here that has tempered my enthusiasm for James Anderson as a prospect. As I mentioned at the top, I wouldnít draft him in the top 10, simply because only the best SGs should be taken in the top 10, because of the supply and demand aspect of acquiring talent. There are enough decent SGs out there that unless a potential star is sitting there in round one, it just isnít a good use of resources to waste a high draft pick on a SG. So for that reason Iíll knock Anderson down the list some. As a player I still feel heís pretty impressive. I like that he was able to drag such a moderately-talented team into the tournament. I like that he improved his weaknesses this year while still becoming a better scorer. As for his career, I think heíll stick around the NBA a fairly long time. He should reach the level of the Finleys, Houstons and Redds.

http://hoopsanalyst.com/blog/?p=511

R_O_W_E
06-22-2010, 01:34 PM
Yeah but Anderson not that bad on D he kinda reminds me of Jason Richardson he really needs to play next to a good PG which is Rose to excell since he was the man and had the ball in his hand at OKState. And with Tibbs as the coach can really help him on defense and we dont have a 2nd round pick which sucks.


interesting breakdown of anderson.hoops analyst:

James Anderson, Oklahoma State: Iíve had Anderson ranked as the top perimeter player not named Wall or Turner since about mid-February when it was clear Dominique Jonesí scary good January was just a fluke. My last draft update had him at #7 overall. The reason for this is pretty simple. James Anderson has put up numbers that place him in some elite company as far as junior SGs are concerned. Here is a list of SGs who topped both 25.0 P40 and 9.0 RSB40 during their junior seasons as Anderson did this past year:NCAA Junior SG
2 pt pct
3 pt pct
P40
RSB40
S40
A/TO
Michael Jordan
.551
n/a
26.5
10.8
2.2
1.0
Dwyane Wade
.519
.318
26.8
12.2
2.7
1.4
Hersey Hawkins
.592
.287
28.6
9.7
2.1
1.0
Ray Allen
.477
.466
26.9
10.1
2.0
1.4
Harold Miner
.472
.352
30.3
9.6
1.3
0.7
Donny Boyce
.431
.317
26.1
12.2
2.6
1.2
Reggie Freeman
.417
.322
25.3
10.5
1.6
1.0
James Anderson
.549
.341
26.2
9.2
1.6
1.0


The difference between the stars and flops is the stars hit well over 50% of their 2-point shots. The flops were well below 50%. Never mind Ray Allenís number. As was mentioned in the last article, Allen posted a .548 and .515 while scoring 23.4 and 25.7 as a frosh and soph respectively. This was just a down year for him and his all-star NBA career confirms this. This was also a down shooting year for Harold Miner, but Miner has the low steals number and a low A/TO as a junior that should have been red flags. James Anderson sits well on the good side of 50%, at .549. This is why I have Anderson ranked so high. Of course this doesnít tell the whole story. Andersonís RSB40 is lower than the rest of this group and he doesnít get the steals the others had. For me it is difficult to just rate a player as an all-star based on a few numbers. Especially in a case like this where if I arbitrarily moved the RSB40 qualifying line up to 9.5, he wouldnít qualify.

I guess the big question here is whether James Anderson is a SG or SF. Heís a much better prospect as a SG. The official OSU athletic site and ESPN both have him as a guard. DraftExpress.com has him listed as a SG/SF and ranks him as a SF. On the court he played more on the perimeter than ever this past year. This is evidenced not only by a look at the PT given to players on the roster, but the fact that his passing numbers improved so much this year. As a sophomore he was the tallest player on the team of the top 5 in minutes played and likely played a lot of forward that year. A look at the numbers from his soph and junior seasons suggest a different player:James Anderson
2 pt pct
3 pt pct
P40
A40
TO40
RSB40
Sophomore
.548
.408
21.8
1.6
2.4
9.0
Junior
.549
.341
26.2
2.9
2.8
9.2


The two big changes were the 3 pt pct and the assists. The 3 pt pct isnít all that important, because it is something that can fluctuate from year to year. The fact he was over 40% at one time is good. The higher assists total in his junior year suggests a player who was likely in the backcourt more often. Looking at this I donít see why James Anderson shouldnít be listed as a SG when he had his greatest college success playing that position as a junior.

The next thing to look at is the low number of steals Anderson posted compared to the stars on the original list and whether or not this should be considered a concern. After looking at other junior SGs, I would say it isnít a big problem for Anderson as a prospect, but it does mean heís at least a few notches below the all-time SGs. It would be better if he were over 2.0 S40. But he still has a higher S40 than all-star SGs Michael Finley, Richard Hamilton, Michael Redd, Steve Smith, Reggie Miller, Allan Houston and Brandon Roy posted as juniors. With steals it seems more important to be over say, 1.3 or so, which Anderson is. While this might label him more of a Miller-type of SG than a Jordan-type, Iím not pushing him as anything but that.

There isnít too much here that has tempered my enthusiasm for James Anderson as a prospect. As I mentioned at the top, I wouldnít draft him in the top 10, simply because only the best SGs should be taken in the top 10, because of the supply and demand aspect of acquiring talent. There are enough decent SGs out there that unless a potential star is sitting there in round one, it just isnít a good use of resources to waste a high draft pick on a SG. So for that reason Iíll knock Anderson down the list some. As a player I still feel heís pretty impressive. I like that he was able to drag such a moderately-talented team into the tournament. I like that he improved his weaknesses this year while still becoming a better scorer. As for his career, I think heíll stick around the NBA a fairly long time. He should reach the level of the Finleys, Houstons and Redds.

http://hoopsanalyst.com/blog/?p=511

I know I have to be ******** because I am reading that article and don't understand 1 bit of those scientific statistics people use for basketball now.:laugh2:

Stunner
06-22-2010, 01:35 PM
I know I have to be ******** because I am reading that article and don't understand 1 bit of those scientific statistics people use for basketball now.:laugh2:

LMAO i was jus reading the words lmao

cardinals1226
06-22-2010, 01:42 PM
NOt sure if Hedo would show up if he was traded to the T'Wolves. If traded, he'll be going to a contender.

I think the Lakers should work a deal w/ the raptors for both Calderon & Hedo; maybe in exchanged for 3 expiring contracts; Farmar, Morrison,Vujacic, & 2 future 1st rd picks.

Lakers lineup:

C) Bynum
PF) Gasol
SF) Artest
SG) Kobe
PG) Calderon

Bench:

SF/SG Hedu
PF/SF Odom
SF L.Walton
PG S.Brown
C/PF J.Powell
C Mbenga

Raptors:

C) Bargnani
PF) A.Johnson
SF) Weems
SG) Derozen
PG) Jack

Bench:

SG Vujajic
PG Farmar
SF Morrison
PF R.Evans
SF/SG Bellenelli
PG M.Banks
C Nesterovic
PF/SF J.Dorsey
C/PF POps Bonsu

Stop posting garbage false rumors. You spam the trade board and now this thread with your trade ideas. That isn't even a good trade for either team. Just stop.

Stunner
06-22-2010, 01:51 PM
stop posting garbage false rumors. You spam the trade board and now this thread with your trade ideas. That isn't even a good trade for either team. Just stop.

da hell u getting mad for its a actually rumor.

S-Dot
06-22-2010, 01:53 PM
you must be an Indy fan haha. Hill is worth more than the #10 pick imo

If the spurs really want an athletic big man like ed davis at the #10 spot, george hill may be the best player to offer. I would find it hard to see them trading Tony parker before him.

Hawkeye15
06-22-2010, 02:01 PM
If the spurs really want an athletic big man like ed davis at the #10 spot, george hill may be the best player to offer. I would find it hard to see them trading Tony parker before him.

well, looking at the #10 picks over the past 7 years or so, they almost all turned into players, so maybe. But I would be looking to move Parker if I were the Spurs.

S-Dot
06-22-2010, 02:03 PM
well, looking at the #10 picks over the past 7 years or so, they almost all turned into players, so maybe. But I would be looking to move Parker if I were the Spurs.

Hill shows very good potential, but I think Parker has the loyalty advantage with the Spurs. As well, I think he is going to come back better, especially because he has much to prove with this being his contract year.

Stunner
06-22-2010, 02:35 PM
per ESPN the Wolves and Grizzles are about to swap pick 16 for 25 and 28.
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