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fadedmario
06-17-2010, 08:06 PM
Is Thabeet on his way to becoming the next Darko? They were both picked 2nd in drafts that had a ton of talent.

Hellcrooner
06-17-2010, 08:09 PM
thabeet didn have the talent he had the promise the potential but everyone knew h ws raw.

As for why in hell did grizz go with a cnter wheyn they had marc gasol and knew conley was not satisfing them and there were lik 6 potentially good pgs ?

your guess is as good as mine

kozelkid
06-17-2010, 08:10 PM
Is Thabeet on his way to becoming the next Darko? They were both picked 2nd in drafts that had a ton of talent.

That's the problem right there.
Granted this draft turned out much better than expected, but it isn't even close to 03. Not to mention at the time, there was no really clear cut second. In 03, they should have picked Melo who had a MONSTER college season over an unproven European player.

Sly Guy
06-17-2010, 08:12 PM
haha, wait until he has a name like 'the human victory cigar' before making a statement like this!

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-17-2010, 08:12 PM
Grizz ****ed up

seriously thabeet has bust written all over him

kozelkid
06-17-2010, 08:14 PM
I also found it a bit ironic that the Pistons pick was a Memphis pick (well technically Vancouver)

The Jokemaker
06-17-2010, 08:39 PM
No I don't think so at all. Thabeet came into the league as a defensive presence to block shots and get rebounds with an offensive game hopefully forming later on. He gives the grizzlies two seven footers on their front line which we've seen how effective that is in LA. And this is after one season so it is WAYYYYYYYY TOOOOO EARLLYYYYY to call anyone a bust. He's a young and raw player so it will take a little bit for him to fully develop and learn how to stay out of foul trouble.

csenoner
06-17-2010, 08:43 PM
This talk is all premature... Is Blake Griffin already a Bust? Well Thabeet has done more than him. Sure Griffin might have shown us that hes fragile, but these guys are young. Its too early to write them off. Especially big men who historically take more time to develop.

And its possible that thabeet will never mature into a great low post scorer, but hes well on his way to being a great defensive player and a good rebounder.

An interesting stat about thabeet:

He was second in the nba in Blocked Shots per 48 minutes at 4.8/48 minutes.

Only Javale McGee had more at 5.01.

Thabeet only played 13 minutes a game and still had 1.3 blocks a game. When he went to the D-League and got heavy minutes he dominated. Its only a matter of time before he learns to stay out of foul trouble and learns to contribute a little bit on offense. He and Gasol will make a real nice front court pairing in 2 years time.

He also had 13.28 reb/48 minutes, not elite but its top 25 in the league near players like Kaman, Horford, Taj Gibson, Kendrick Perkins.

SO keep these stats in mind when evaluating him. His numbers dont do him justice, and with Gasol and Zach, who was an all star, they didnt need to rely on him. They were competeing for a playoffs spot early in the year and he never saw the court. towards the end of the season when they were out of it, thabeet played a lot more and played well.

SteveNash
06-17-2010, 08:45 PM
That's the problem right there.
Granted this draft turned out much better than expected, but it isn't even close to 03. Not to mention at the time, there was no really clear cut second. In 03, they should have picked Melo who had a MONSTER college season over an unproven European player.

Darko was a better pick over Melo.

JasonJohnHorn
06-17-2010, 08:49 PM
Thabeet was a disapointment this year, yes. But he showed great maturity when he went down to the D-league, played VERY well while there, and when he returned he was in better form.

Thabeet has special gifts. He is 7-3, which gives him 4 inches on many NBA centers, and has a lean, muscular 260 pound frame. These physical gifts translated very well in college where he easily dominated, but the NBA is tougher and it takes players time to adjust. Given his mature responce to the D-league posting, and his generally positive attitude and seemingly strong work ethic, alongside the physical gifts, I think Thabeet will have a long career. The biggest question is talent. Does he have it? Rebounds are more about boxing out than height, but height helps, and shot blocking leads to a lot of fouls if you don't have a high basketball IQ, but given he spent last summer with Hakeem, it seems he has the humilty to learn and maturity to realize he needs to improve. He may or may not be dominant depending on how much talent he has (some guys just have more inate talent), but i think his drive, maturity and positive attitude will ensure he has a job in the NBA for the next decade at least.

Slimsim
06-17-2010, 08:52 PM
Blake griffin is more of a bust than Thabeet.

jetsfan28
06-17-2010, 08:53 PM
This talk is all premature... Is Blake Griffin already a Bust? Well Thabeet has done more than him. Sure Griffin might have shown us that hes fragile, but these guys are young. Its too early to write them off. Especially big men who historically take more time to develop.

And its possible that thabeet will never mature into a great low post scorer, but hes well on his way to being a great defensive player and a good rebounder.

An interesting stat about thabeet:

He was second in the nba in Blocked Shots per 48 minutes at 4.8/48 minutes.

Only Javale McGee had more at 5.01.

Thabeet only played 13 minutes a game and still had 1.3 blocks a game. When he went to the D-League and got heavy minutes he dominated. Its only a matter of time before he learns to stay out of foul trouble and learns to contribute a little bit on offense. He and Gasol will make a real nice front court pairing in 2 years time.

He also had 13.28 reb/48 minutes, not elite but its top 25 in the league near players like Kaman, Horford, Taj Gibson, Kendrick Perkins.

SO keep these stats in mind when evaluating him. His numbers dont do him justice, and with Gasol and Zach, who was an all star, they didnt need to rely on him. They were competeing for a playoffs spot early in the year and he never saw the court. towards the end of the season when they were out of it, thabeet played a lot more and played well.

This. Thabeet didn't even have a bad year. If he were picked in the teens, no one would have any problem with his year, people should avoid unfairly judging him when it was known he would be a project.

Also, Darko was significantly worse than Bosh and Kaman fairly quickly. Who from this draft is like that? Hill hasn't done much, Hansbrough's done nothing, Mullens has done nothing, the only big man who looked better than Thabeet was Blair, who is too small to play center.

RocketsRule
06-17-2010, 08:53 PM
Waaaaay to early to label him a bust. I mean c'mon, it's been one season.


This. Thabeet didn't even have a bad year. If he were picked in the teens, no one would have any problem with his year, people should avoid unfairly judging him when it was known he would be a project.

Also, Darko was significantly worse than Bosh and Kaman fairly quickly. Who from this draft is like that? Hill hasn't done much, Hansbrough's done nothing, Mullens has done nothing, the only big man who looked better than Thabeet was Blair, who is too small to play center.

Totally agreed.

Big Quett
06-17-2010, 09:07 PM
Is Thabeet on his way to becoming the next Darko? They were both picked 2nd in drafts that had a ton of talent.

2009 draft<<<<<<<<<2003 draft
Until James Harden turns into Melo...NO
Until Tyreke is an all Nba player and multiple time allstar like Bosh...NO
Until Rubio wins a finals MVP then again.....NO

The Jokemaker
06-17-2010, 09:25 PM
Memphis didn't draft Tyreke because they already have a PG/SG player in OJ Mayo. So why draft another one? Plus Conley is still young so the jury is still out on his nba career.

And as far as Rubio, there was no way he would come to play for the Grizzlies so he wasn't an option either.

Their main need going into the draft was a better defensive presence down low and Thabeet was the best option.

Truheatfan
06-17-2010, 09:32 PM
Darko was a better pick over Melo.

:laugh::laugh: dude you must be :smoking:

Burkey3472
06-17-2010, 09:36 PM
Wait a couple of years, if he still is struggling then you can call him a bust.

Jamiecballer
06-17-2010, 10:05 PM
Darko was at least a talented kid. Thabeet is just big. It's a little too early to write him off though.

BradyIsTheMan12
06-17-2010, 10:24 PM
I don't think you can call Thabeet a bust but I have never been a fan of his even in college. He will be decent in my opinion.

Kyle N.
06-17-2010, 10:50 PM
Damn. Give him some time.

jackdawson
06-17-2010, 11:03 PM
Grizz and Wolves are the ones that **** up when it comes to draft. Their FO people are weird and I wonder what they smoke during draft decisions.

td0tsfinest
06-17-2010, 11:18 PM
Is this really being discussed? He's only been in the league for 1 ****ing year.

DodgerBulls
06-17-2010, 11:48 PM
The question is.. can Thabeet win a championship?

Trouble87
06-18-2010, 12:03 AM
simply too soon to tell

irobson
06-18-2010, 12:17 AM
Thabeet wasn't that highly thought of...his college career was only decent...so i'd say darko was much more highly though of than Hasheem Thabeet

kozelkid
06-18-2010, 12:20 AM
Darko was a better pick over Melo.

He absolutely was not.

And besides all else, the impact of a bust of Darko is in incomparable to Thabeet because he was the only player of the other top 5 picks that didn't become a franchise player. The only worse bust I can think of is Sam Bowie.

OnslaughtXX6
06-18-2010, 12:24 AM
Thabeet = caca

blastmasta26
06-18-2010, 01:04 AM
Thabeet will probably never have any semblance of an offensive game, but he's already shown he can block shots. It just comes down to avoiding foul trouble, which should happen with time. Big shotblockers are scarce in the NBA, and Thabeet will be valuable in a few years. Give him at least 2 more years before labeling him a bust.

sargon21
06-18-2010, 01:50 AM
Darko was a better pick over Melo.

crazy statement