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JordansBulls
06-11-2010, 01:17 PM
High jacked this thread from another location.


Given that the Finals right now's deadlocked at 2-2, game 5 is pretty important. But it's actually pretty surprising to know that game 5 is almost must-win for the Celtics. And that if they lose game 5 but win the series, it would be a historical feat.

Series record of teams going home up 3-2: 9-0. And home teams are 8-1 in game 6. More surprising to me is how many games ended in 6. Only Detroit took a game in SA to send it into a game 7.
Anyway, it's pretty clear that when you're up 3-2 needing only 1 of 2 wins at home, it's almost time for the fat lady.

Series records of visiting teams after going up 3-2: 4-2. Which confirms our common senses that winning one game on the road is still a lot easier than winning 2 straight at home. And usually the visiting team wins game 6.

Ridiculously easy trivia question: Name one of the two teams to win games 6 and 7 at home?


Rockets in 1994 and Lakers in 1988 both were down 3-2 and won games 6 and 7 at home.

Interesting thing about both is that both teams barely won game 6. And then barely won game 7.

Chronz
06-11-2010, 02:25 PM
Its why Ive always hated the 2-3-2 format, game 1 is essentially a must win for the road team. You cant expect to win 3 straight, so your basically expecting your team to win 2 on the road to win the series, when in the traditional format most teams only need to win 1 on the road and close it out at home. If the Celtics win the title, they have to win G5. Kobes legacy should take a huge hit if it happens though nobody will admit it.

Bruno
06-11-2010, 03:35 PM
Its why Ive always hated the 2-3-2 format, game 1 is essentially a must win for the road team. You cant expect to win 3 straight, so your basically expecting your team to win 2 on the road to win the series, when in the traditional format most teams only need to win 1 on the road and close it out at home. If the Celtics win the title, they have to win G5. Kobes legacy should take a huge hit if it happens though nobody will admit it.

I'd admit it, it's a big deal. 5/7 is a lot prettier than 4/7. Just as much as a loss would take a huge hit, a win this finals would propel him to even greater heights.

69centers
06-11-2010, 04:08 PM
2-3-2 really needs to go. It just doesn't make sense that only 1 team gets a home game after the pivotal game 5. Each team should get a home chance deep in the series (games 6 and 7).

It works in the earlier rounds and it works in the Stanley Cup Finals.

Bruno
06-11-2010, 04:20 PM
2-3-2 just doesn't really seem to benefit anyone. It's not well balanced, it needs to go.

Kakaroach
06-11-2010, 04:32 PM
2-3-2 just doesn't really seem to benefit anyone. It's not well balanced, it needs to go. Agreed, this year is a great example. The 2 teams have a day off between Game 4 and 5 anyway so whats the point of having it stay in Boston.

It just doesn't make sense and seems like a random rule.

MacFitz92
06-11-2010, 04:43 PM
Too much is made out of the format. The best team will win the series regardless.

hugepatsfan
06-11-2010, 04:49 PM
LA is the team that has home court in this series. I think game 5 is probably the most important game in most series, so it's not fair that LA has to play this one on the road.

ko8e24
06-11-2010, 04:53 PM
In the pivotal GAME 5 of the 2010 NBA Finals, with the series tied at 2-2.....

If the Lakers win game 5 in Boston, the Lakers WILL win the series and the repeat championship in 6 games.


History says that in over a full decade, the Los Angeles Lakers have not lost consecutive playoff home games since Games 2 and 5 of the 2000 WCF against the Portland Trailblazers (The Shaq-Kobe team that went on to win the 1st of 3 consecutive titles).



Since then....

2001: Lakers lose game 1 of the finals @ LA against the Sixers, but win game 2 @ LA of that series.

2002: Lakers lose game 2 of the semis @ LA against the Spurs, but win game 5 @ LA of that series.

Lakers lose game 3 of the '02 WCF @ LA against the Kings, but win game 4 @ LA (Robert Horry buzzer beater).

2003: Lakers lose game 3 of '03 1st rd @ LA against the T'wolves, but win game 4 @ LA of that series.

Lakers lose game 6 of the '03 Semis @ LA (eliminated from playoffs) against the Spurs, but win the next yr in game 1 @ LA of the '04 1st rd against the Rockets.

2004: Lakers lose game 1 of the '04 Finals @ LA against the Pistons, but win game 2 @ LA in OT.


2006: Lakers lose game 6 of '06 1st rd in OT @ LA against the Suns, but win the next yr in game 3 @ LA of the '07 1st rd against the Suns.

2007: Lakers lose game 4 @ LA of the '07 1st rd against the Suns, but the next yr, win game 1 @ LA of the '08 1st rd against the Nuggets.

2008: Lakers lose game 4 @ LA of the '08 Finals against the Celtics, but win game 5 @ LA of the finals.

2009: Lakers lose game 1 @ LA of the '09 Semis against the Rockets, but win game 2 @ LA of that series.

Lakers lose game 2 @ LA of the '09 WCF against the Nuggets, but win game 5 @ LA of that series.

2010: Lakers lose game 2 @ LA of the 2010 Finals against the Celtics.....

Game 6 @ LA, Game 7 @ LA (IF NECESSARY)...

hugepatsfan
06-11-2010, 04:56 PM
History said after taking a 3-2 series lead against ORL last year BOS would advance...

DerekRE_3
06-11-2010, 04:57 PM
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=494181

ko8e24
06-11-2010, 06:01 PM
History said after taking a 3-2 series lead against ORL last year BOS would advance...

No not really. '02 WCF, Kings won game 5 in Sac to go up 3-2, then lose game 6 in LA, and then lose game 7 in OT on their own home floor, thus, blowing a 3-2 lead.

hugepatsfan
06-11-2010, 10:12 PM
No not really. '02 WCF, Kings won game 5 in Sac to go up 3-2, then lose game 6 in LA, and then lose game 7 in OT on their own home floor, thus, blowing a 3-2 lead.

Celts were 32-0 when leading a series 3 games to two.

JordansBulls
06-11-2010, 11:18 PM
Celts were 32-0 when leading a series 3 games to two.

:nod:


That was with no KG. They also went the distance with a 7th ranked team as well.

THE MTL
06-12-2010, 02:02 AM
There are a MILLION statistics that would show why the Celtics will win as well as the Lakers. I really dont care about the whole "when one team wins this, it means its over". Cause it can really go either way.

One thing that needs to change is this dumb format. 2-3-2 is CRAP! and totally unfair.

still1ballin
06-12-2010, 02:18 AM
:nod:


That was with no KG. They also went the distance with a 7th ranked team as well.

Ok dude we get it. We all know you want Lakers to lose

JordansBulls
06-12-2010, 08:19 AM
Ok dude we get it. We all know you want Lakers to lose

ok we get it, we all know you want the Celtics to lose.

still1ballin
06-12-2010, 01:49 PM
ok we get it, we all know you want the Celtics to lose.

Good job stating the obvious buddy. You're so smart!