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Bruno
06-08-2010, 02:54 AM
ESPN Daily Dime.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-100608/daily-dime

In the 2-3-2 series format (since 1985), when the NBA Finals is tied 1-1, the winner of Game 3 has gone on to win the series on all 10 occasions.

How important is Game 3 of the NBA Finals? In NBA Finals history, the series has been tied 1-1 on 32 occasions. The Game 3 winner has gone on to win 28 of those 32 series (87.5 percent).

On the defensive end, Boston's magic number to win is 95. The Celtics are 12-0 when allowing 95 or fewer points this postseason. Boston is 1-6 when allowing 96 points or more.

Many people thought Game 1 of the NBA Finals was a fairly ugly game after a combined 54 fouls were called on the two teams. In Game 2, there were even more fouls called. Referees called a combined 58 fouls in Game 2. There have been 112 fouls called in the first two games of the NBA Finals, the most in the first two games of the NBA Finals since 1996 NBA Finals (113 fouls -- 56 in Game 1, 57 in Game 2.)

Remember that the Celtics were 3-0 at home against the Lakers in the 2008 NBA Finals, including the 39-point clincher in Game 6. Boston's averaging margin of victory in those three games was 18.3 points. Games 3, 4 and 5 will be played in Boston.

The Lakers were just 23-18 on the road in the regular season, which was tied for third-best in the Western Conference and tied for sixth in the NBA. Los Angeles is 4-4 on the road in the postseason.

The Lakers scored 94 points in Game 2's loss to the Celtics. It was the first time that the Lakers had failed to score at least 100 points in 11 straight games. Los Angeles had scored at least 100 points in every game since Game 1 of the conference semifinals against the Jazz and were 9-2 during that 11-game streak.

In Game 2, the Lakers had 14 blocked shots, setting a NBA Finals record. Andrew Bynum had seven blocks and Pau Gasol had six as they became the first teammates in Finals history to each have five or more blocks in a game.

In this series, Kobe Bryant is a combined 1-6 FG (four total points) in 54 possessions when guarded by Tony Allen or Rajon Rondo. Bryant had 42 touches in those 54 possessions. In 16 possessions when defended by Rondo in this series, Bryant has 14 touches but has not attempted a shot and scored zero points.

Bynum had 21 points in Game 2 of the NBA Finals, which tied his postseason career high. He also had 21 points in Game 5 against the Oklahoma City Thunder in the first round. Bynum had seven blocks in the conference finals (six games) against the Suns. Bynum had six blocks in Game 2 against the Celtics in the NBA Finals.

The Celtics had zero second-chance points in their Game 1 loss to the Lakers. In Game 2, Boston had 13 second-chance points.

Ray Allen made an NBA Finals-record eight three-pointers in Game 2. Seven of those were of the catch-and-shoot variety, meaning no dribbles once he caught the ball.

To put a little perspective on how phenomenal Allen's accomplishment was, our friends at Accuscore.com simulated the game 10,000 times: Allen hit seven consecutive three-pointers 11 times in 10,000 simulations, or 0.11 percent of the time. Allen hit seven in a row in the first half in just two of 10,000 simulations.

Rondo had a triple-double for the Celtics in Game 2. It was the first triple-double in the Finals for a Boston player since Larry Bird had one in Game 6 in the 1986 NBA Finals. The last player to have a triple-double in the NBA Finals was Tim Duncan for the Spurs in 2003 (Game 6).

Rondo is the barometer for the Celtics. In the 2010 postseason, when Rondo's plus/minus is +2 or better, Boston is 13-0. When it is +1, even or negative, Boston is 0-6.

Peter Newmann is a regular contributor to the Daily Dime.

jimbobjarree
06-08-2010, 02:56 AM
so that or Phil Jacksons 100% record after winning game 1 will get broken. Personally I hope its Jackson's damn record.

Bruno
06-08-2010, 02:59 AM
so that or Phil Jacksons 100% record after winning game 1 will get broken. Personally I hope its Jackson's damn record.

If the Lakers win game three and win the series both records would stay intact.

dodie53
06-08-2010, 03:18 AM
if the lakers win the series,
they will become the champs.













hehe

MaHaRaJaH
06-08-2010, 03:19 AM
o0o0o0o more gambling related stats

TheWatcher34
06-08-2010, 03:40 AM
every streak will break at some point.

ldc62
06-08-2010, 03:58 AM
Rondo is the barometer for the Celtics. In the 2010 postseason, when Rondo's plus/minus is +2 or better, Boston is 13-0. When it is +1, even or negative, Boston is 0-6.

Seems easy enough. Isnt +2 < not even that good.....

sp1derm00
06-08-2010, 04:07 AM
It's a pretty small sample size... of 10 series. It's still significant, but it's not like it would be an INCREDIBLE feat if the loser of game 3 comes back and wins the series.

PrettyBoyJ
06-08-2010, 04:49 AM
I still think the lakers have the upper hand.. even tho they lost game 2.. it could have easily been the other way around.. Mistakes cost them the game.. If they keep there physical play and Kobe out of foul trouble I dont see why Lakers cant go into Boston in win game 3 and possibly 4 or 5

JordansBulls
06-08-2010, 08:05 AM
so that or Phil Jacksons 100% record after winning game 1 will get broken. Personally I hope its Jackson's damn record.

Well his HCA record was broken in 2004 as well after going 35-0.

Unruly Fan
06-08-2010, 09:08 AM
I still think the lakers have the upper hand.. even tho they lost game 2.. it could have easily been the other way around.. Mistakes cost them the game.. If they keep there physical play and Kobe out of foul trouble I dont see why Lakers cant go into Boston in win game 3 and possibly 4 or 5lol that could be said for both teams but Boston has the upperhand due to HCA...

MK-E-MK
06-08-2010, 09:25 AM
Here's hoping Boston take game 3 then!!!

RipVW
06-08-2010, 09:31 AM
If the Lakers win game three and win the series both records would stay intact.

It would be pretty crazy if LA wins game 3 and Boston goes on to win.

That would mean Phil's Record comes to an end and the game 3 thing is snapped.

king4day
06-08-2010, 09:32 AM
Good read. Nice find Bruno.

Bruno
06-08-2010, 04:20 PM
It's a pretty small sample size... of 10 series. It's still significant, but it's not like it would be an INCREDIBLE feat if the loser of game 3 comes back and wins the series.

Yea, it isn't the biggest sample size. The bigger sample size, using finals that predated the 2-3-2 format says winner of game three wins the series 87.5% of the time. Still a pretty strong number.


It would be pretty crazy if LA wins game 3 and Boston goes on to win.

That would mean Phil's Record comes to an end and the game 3 thing is snapped.

That would be pretty crazy. Garnetts "anything is possible" plug would be more appropriate this year.


Good read. Nice find Bruno.

Thanks mang.

RadiantShot
06-08-2010, 04:31 PM
Hmm..Interesting. Still going with Boston tonight.

beasted86
06-08-2010, 08:30 PM
If Celtics win game 3, they will have a 2 game win streak with the next 2 at home.

If the Lakers win game 3, it shows they can win on the road, one of their problematic areas... and they've taken back home court advantage.

Avenged
06-08-2010, 08:33 PM
If L.A loses game 3, they still have a chance to win the series. It'll be tough but not impossible.

Is Bos wins game 3, they get all the momentum for the next game which will be big for them since it's another home game for them.

I don't buy the whole winner of game 3 wins the series (history says otherwise) but I think any of these teams can win on any given night.

Truheatfan
06-08-2010, 08:46 PM
If Celtics win game 3, they will have a 2 game win streak with the next 2 at home.

If the Lakers win game 3, it shows they can win on the road, one of their problematic areas... and they've taken back home court advantage.

this!

Avenged
06-08-2010, 08:57 PM
Problematic area for L.A is winning on the road? They won on the road against every team they've played against this series other than the Celtics (first road game of the series tonight, obviously).

beasted86
06-08-2010, 08:58 PM
Problematic area for L.A is winning on the road? They won on the road against every team they've played against this series other than the Celtics (first road game of the series tonight, obviously).

The entire season.

Bruno
06-09-2010, 04:24 PM
If The C's come back to win this series, they will break this record, along with Jacksons. History is against the Celtics.

CowboysKB24
06-09-2010, 04:32 PM
every streak will break at some point.

Not true at all. I think you are just wishing and hoping that Phil's streak and the finals game 3 streak breaks. If Phil wins this series, it may be his last playoff series. He'll probably retire after this season. It is going to depend on where all the FA go and if they win it this year.

JordansBulls
06-09-2010, 04:42 PM
If The C's come back to win this series, they will break this record, along with Jacksons. History is against the Celtics.

yep. And if LA goes up 3-2, no team has ever won games 6 and 7 on the road either. Imagine breaking all 3 in the same series.

ko8e24
06-09-2010, 04:46 PM
P-Jax won game 1 of the series: 47/47

Lakers won game 3 after tied 1-1 in 2-3-2 format of NBA Finals: 10/10


The formula seems simple to me....


LAKERS REPEAT! :)

MickeyMgl
06-09-2010, 04:47 PM
Well his HCA record was broken in 2004 as well after going 35-0.

Injury played a role in that one.

Bruno
06-09-2010, 04:52 PM
yep. And if LA goes up 3-2, no team has ever won games 6 and 7 on the road either. Imagine breaking all 3 in the same series.

wow, almost as if its being set up for the C's to have some record breaking comeback.

ko8e24
06-09-2010, 04:56 PM
Injury played a role in that one.

Injured Rick Fox and Horace Grant didn't play, D. Fish was hobbling, and Karl Malone was hobbling so bad, he didn't even play in the elimination game 5 in Detroit.

rjvacad
06-09-2010, 04:58 PM
if the lakers win the series,
they will become the champs.hehe

Slight correction, they are the champs and until they lose, they will stay the champs.

ko8e24
06-09-2010, 05:05 PM
Slight correction, they are the champs and until they lose, they will stay the champs.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Mplsman
06-09-2010, 05:07 PM
Interesting statistic...

Bruno
06-09-2010, 05:08 PM
This threads getting a lot more attention today than it was yesterday. Everybody was afraid to say something that could be sig material, lol.

da wood
06-09-2010, 05:16 PM
man did the laker fans really just come and take over the boston blog

Mplsman
06-09-2010, 05:23 PM
Even if the celtics won game 3, the lakers are too good to stack these kind of stats against them.

AllStar44
06-09-2010, 05:28 PM
I lost track of how many times this stat was used by espn yesterday and earlier today, geez.

JordansBulls
06-09-2010, 11:20 PM
I lost track of how many times this stat was used by espn yesterday and earlier today, geez.

:hi5:

JiffyMix88
06-09-2010, 11:47 PM
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

they really need to come out with a emoticon of one emoticon giving the other head so i could of inserted it here instead of typing all this out

SNYmets86
06-10-2010, 12:11 AM
next game ray allen is gonna go off just wait and see ....

Lakersho
06-10-2010, 12:45 AM
next game ray allen is gonna go off just wait and see ....

...as in go off ,you mean 2/10 or 10/13 from 3 . i like the 0/13 but will take 4/12.

Fireworld
06-10-2010, 03:53 AM
Good read.