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asandhu23
05-24-2010, 06:52 PM
When basketball players Sim and Tanveer Bhullar visited Saltsburg (Pa.) The Kiski School last summer, they were awestruck at the size of the sprawling, 350-acre campus replete with a golf course, Tudor-style dormitories and hiking trails.

"I was like, 'Wow, this is big,'" Tanveer said.

Others react the same way when they meet them.

Sim, 17, is 7-4, 285 pounds.

Tanveer, only 15, is 7-2, 260 pounds.

Both have solid skills and are developing quickly on the court.

They have a chance to become top college basketball players. They have the opportunity to become national sports heroes in India.

"Their potential is unlimited," Joe Lewandowksi, one of their first prominent coaches, said.

Either way, they are determined to get a good education, which is how they ended up at a school in Western Pennsylvania known for a lot of things - but not basketball.

Until now.

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The Bhullars dwarf the last notable pair of 7-foot brothers to play basketball together on the high school level - Brook and Robin Lopez, who went from San Joaquin Memorial (Calif.) from 2003-2006 to Stanford to the first-round of the 2008 NBA Draft.


Sim Bhullar
And while the Bhullars are still growing into their large frames, they both are nimble and have skills to complement their height.

Sim, who just completed his sophomore season, averaged about 16 points, 14 rebounds and eight blocks. He has three-point range and is a strong passer, but he also can run the floor and finish strong with power dunks.

"You just don't find big guys that agile," Kiski School head coach Daryn Freedman said. "There's nothing like him in the country right now."

Tanveer averaged about 12 points, 11 rebounds and five blocks during his freshman season. He possesses a smooth 15- to 17-foot jumper and has quick feet and soft hands, key attributes to low-post success.

They both have improved immensely at Kiski School under Freedman, a longtime college and NBA assistant who arrived at the school about a month before the Bhullars did. They have since remade their bodies, regularly working out at 5 a.m. with the Kiski wrestling coach.

Sim, who has lost 30 pounds, could not run the court more than two or three times. Tanveer, who started last season as a backup, needed a month before he could dunk after a running start.

And while they both have areas to work on - Tanveer must resist the urge to shoot fadeaway jumpers and improve his foot speed; Sim needs to be a more active rebounder and to maintain his composure after committing a silly foul - there have been glimpses of greatness.

Sim displayed his tantalizing skill during an AAU open gym session featuring top Pittsburgh-area prep players. He stole the ball at half court, dribbled between two defenders and then threw down an acrobatic dunk.

"Everyone was just kind of shocked," Freedman said. "That was the first time I was like, 'Wow, he's really come far.'"

Far is an appropriate term.

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The Bhullars' road to Kiski School is a long one - and started more than two decades ago when their father Avtar (who stands 6-1), moved from Amritsar, India, to Toronto. His wife, the 5-foot-10 Varinder, joined him later.

They had three children - the boys plus older sister Avneet, who attends law school in England.

"They left their home to a whole new country so their future family would have a better life," Avneet said. "All three of us are very grateful to them."

The brothers were playing with the Youth Association for Academics, Athletics and Character Education (YAAACE), an inner-city Toronto program for which Lewandowski assists.

Their parents, however, knew that their basketball opportunities were limited in Canada.

Varinder asked Lewandowski if he could help them find an American school where her sons could better develop their basketball ability.

The Bhullars considered other schools, including well-known basketball schools DeMatha (Md.) Catholic and Montrose (Md.) Christian. Then Lewandoski, a former Pittsburgh-area high school coach and player at Slippery Rock University, suggested The Kiski School, where Freedman had just taken over as coach.

The Kiski School - an all-boys, prep school of 210 students located 30 miles east of Pittsburgh and just a six-hour drive from Toronto - turned out to be the perfect combination of academics, location and coaching.

Freedman, who has coached at various Division 1 schools and with both the Nets and the Sixers in the NBA, has been a perfect fit.

His background not only allows him to develop the kids as players but prepare them for the recruiting process that's ahead.

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West Virginia has already offered Sim a scholarship. Duke plans to visit him.

Duquesne, Florida State, Kentucky, LSU, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Stanford, Texas, UMass, USC and Washington State have expressed interest in both brothers.


Tanveer Bhullar
Because Freedman spent eight years as an assistant under John Calipari in college and the pros - "He was my mentor, my coaching idol," Freedman says - some assume Kentucky has the inside track. Freedman just laughs.

"They're going to wind up wherever they want to go," he said. "I know way too many people in basketball to tell a kid where to go... I can't do that. It would be unfair to too many people."

The Bhullars are looking for a strong academic school that excels at developing big men and is close to Toronto. And they'd like to play together.

"If we could," Sim said, "we most likely would do it."

Anyone who has seen them together, understands why.

"Everyone thinks they're twins," Freedman said. "They're really, really tight... They definitely have each other's backs all the time."

Avneet used to drive her brothers to and from a Toronto-area gym. But on the one day that she could not pick them up and the boys had to walk, Tanveer rolled his ankle. Sim's shoulder would later ache because he served as a crutch, supporting Tanveer the whole way home.

"Had it been another older brother, he'd probably laugh at his younger brother for his foolishness," Avneet said via e-mail. "But Sim was more worried than amused for the well-being of his little brother."

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The brothers are serious about their future - and would welcome roles as Indian basketball pioneers.

The NBA had players from 36 countries and territories this season, but none from India.

The brothers already have a following. When they visited the Golden Temple, a Sikh spiritual and cultural center, last summer, about 100 people crowded them.

"If I was able to make the NBA," Sim said, "that would be something big for India."

That, however, can wait.

This summer will be spent in Canada playing for the AAU team, Team Takeover, and the Canadian national teams.

In 2010-11, the Bhullars will return to a loaded Kiski School squad, which went 16-4 last year and also includes Serbian Stefan Jankovic, a super-talented 6-9 forward who grew up in Toronto.

It's reason enough for Freedman to be thrilled with his career move.

"I love this," he said. "It's just such a great situation.

"I have no interest right now in going back to college."

Why should he? With a pair of brothers such as the Bhullars, the colleges will be coming to him.


http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087336

Yay my culture. :clap::clap::clap: Look at their heights at 15 and 17. Goddamn. Yao move over.

Best part? they are from my hometown

29$JerZ
05-24-2010, 06:55 PM
If they go to College and have no medical reasons for the height that could hurt them then maybe. Way too early to tell now.

td0tsfinest
05-24-2010, 06:58 PM
their Canadian two. :D

Brown and Canadian, just like me.

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 07:03 PM
their Canadian two. :D

Brown and Canadian, just like me.

They better make us proud. :clap:

ko8e24
05-24-2010, 07:07 PM
their Canadian two. :D

Brown and Canadian, just like me.

Russell Peters, is that you? :speechless:


Ladies and gentleman, we have a celebrity IN THE HOUSE!!!! :clap:



But for real, this would be great for the sport of basketball, both collegiate and the professional NBA level.


I'm truly happy to hear about the potential of these two kids. :)

clutchski
05-24-2010, 07:14 PM
their Canadian two. :D

Brown and Canadian, just like me.

lol you butchered that sentence.

Yeah it got me thinking..if they became really good what national team would they play for?

td0tsfinest
05-24-2010, 07:16 PM
lol you butchered that sentence.

Yeah it got me thinking..if they became really good what national team would they play for?

lol. I just noticed. I guess I was too excited.

They're going to be repping Canada this summer at the World Juniors, so my guess would be Canada.

ldc62
05-24-2010, 07:19 PM
If you're tall it means you will dominate college... doesn't mean anything in the NBA.

Kakaroach
05-24-2010, 07:21 PM
lol you butchered that sentence.

Yeah it got me thinking..if they became really good what national team would they play for? I would assume for their home country of India.

Anyway this is nice and great for India, it would be nice to see them get into another sport besides cricket.

_KB24_
05-24-2010, 07:21 PM
Chak De!!!!!!!!! :clap:

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 07:22 PM
I would assume for their home country of India.

Anyway this is nice and great for India, it would be nice to see them get into another sport besides cricket.

They don't have a national team. all the funds go to cricket.

td0tsfinest
05-24-2010, 07:23 PM
If you're tall it means you will dominate college... doesn't mean anything in the NBA.

party pooper.

RaptorizedKevin
05-24-2010, 07:23 PM
lol these guys used to go to sandalwood heights i remember.

ko8e24
05-24-2010, 07:23 PM
I really think India is one of those countries where if they have players of that culture, it can push the NBA into a whole different direction of popularity.

This is exactly the new push that the NBA needs.

The NBA will become an even more global game than what it is now. That only means more revenue.

RaptorizedKevin
05-24-2010, 07:24 PM
this isnt news to me :P

RaptorizedKevin
05-24-2010, 07:24 PM
theres gonna be future guyanese people in the nba too :P

td0tsfinest
05-24-2010, 07:25 PM
I really think India is one of those countries where if they have players of that culture, it can push the NBA into a whole different direction of popularity.

This is exactly the new push that the NBA needs.

The NBA will become an even more global game than what it is now. That only means more revenue.

David Stern? Didn't know you were a Lakers fan?

ko8e24
05-24-2010, 07:26 PM
lol these guys used to go to sandalwood heights i remember.

How good were they from what you saw?

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 07:26 PM
David Stern? Didn't know you were a Lakers fan?

Lol come on now, tdot. i thought it was obvious.

Kakaroach
05-24-2010, 07:26 PM
They don't have a national team. all the funds go to cricket. Oh I'm sure if these 2 kids and others end up being good they would have a national team.

RaptorizedKevin
05-24-2010, 07:27 PM
How good were they from what you saw?

im not sure. i heard from my friend that they were in sandalwood. i never actually witnessed their game. youtube them.

theyre kinda chubby eh.

RaptorizedKevin
05-24-2010, 07:28 PM
Anthony, didnt tanveer and sim go to sandalwood? and now theyre in prep school?

ko8e24
05-24-2010, 07:28 PM
David Stern? Didn't know you were a Lakers fan?

:laugh2:

No dude, I'm serious, and this is actually good for the game of basketball.


All the time we're talking about LeBron LeBron LeBron 95% of the time when it comes to the NBA, I mean the dude does not make the NBA. There were bigger attractions that came before him, and he ain't gonna be the last big attraction of the NBA. There will be several bigger attractions after him, like these Indian kids. Hopefully, they can take the game of basketball and its popularity level to new heights.

td0tsfinest
05-24-2010, 07:29 PM
Oh I'm sure if these 2 kids and others end up being good they would have a national team.

Unless, they decide to play for the country they were born in.

yungballah15
05-24-2010, 07:31 PM
I played against tanveer since grade 6, in rep school and just pickup in general. Im proud to see them actually grow as players, and i know there gonna make Toronto proud.

AI4MVP
05-24-2010, 07:31 PM
wow. there huge! at such a young ago. theyre going to grow, if they dont, there still ****ing huge! they need to get groomed immediately. the nba needs better big men. they could be the next greats. who woulda thought. two indians. the indian community should be very proud! good job guys

yungballah15
05-24-2010, 07:33 PM
Anthony, didnt tanveer and sim go to sandalwood? and now theyre in prep school?

Sim went to Sandalwood Heights. Tanveer was in grade 8 last year, and wen to Calderstone. This year he would be at Sandalwood.

Kakaroach
05-24-2010, 07:34 PM
Okay calm down guys, and keep the discussion on topic. I don't want to have to close this thread.

kingkenny01
05-24-2010, 07:39 PM
these guy are locks for the NBA as long as they continue to train they are not bad for just starting to play basketball
i wonder where they will go for college

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 07:44 PM
They can do this. :clap::clap::clap:

SugeKnight
05-24-2010, 07:51 PM
India's national team is still garbage. They can't even beat Afghanistan

_KB24_
05-24-2010, 07:59 PM
They don't have a national team. all the funds go to the pockets of our corrupt politicians.

Fixed it for you sandhu.

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 08:08 PM
Fixed it for you sandhu.

:sigh: indeed thats very true.

MaHaRaJaH
05-24-2010, 08:10 PM
Brown NBA players, FINALLY

MaHaRaJaH
05-24-2010, 08:11 PM
India's national team is still garbage. They can't even beat Afghanistan

Our field hockey team was top class, but government doesn't even care for that anymore, hell even our cricket team loses to curruption :shrug:

td0tsfinest
05-24-2010, 08:12 PM
Hahah. Sri Lanka will always kick your butts in Cricket. The only sport we're good at and I still don't watch it.

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 08:14 PM
Hahah. Sri Lanka will always kick your butts in Cricket. The only sport we're good at and I still don't watch it.
:rolleyes:

thescore53
05-24-2010, 08:21 PM
theres alot of somalian guys in my high school who are good in basketball, but never seen one even attempt to be in the nba

IversonIsKrazy
05-24-2010, 08:23 PM
INDO-CANADIANSSS :D haha, hopefully they make us proud!

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 08:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Y04AMkvdg

Those guy's highlights freshman year.

td0tsfinest
05-24-2010, 08:26 PM
:laugh2:

No dude, I'm serious, and this is actually good for the game of basketball.


All the time we're talking about LeBron LeBron LeBron 95% of the time when it comes to the NBA, I mean the dude does not make the NBA. There were bigger attractions that came before him, and he ain't gonna be the last big attraction of the NBA. There will be several bigger attractions after him, like these Indian kids. Hopefully, they can take the game of basketball and its popularity level to new heights.

no I'm with you. I was just trying to be funny cause you called me Russell Peters before.

India is the second most populous country in the world and brown people everywhere would start watching basketball. And there are a lot of us brown people.

ko8e24
05-24-2010, 08:31 PM
no I'm with you. I was just trying to be funny cause you called me Russell Peters before.

India is the second most populous country in the world and brown people everywhere would start watching basketball. And there are a lot of us brown people.

I'm just hoping these kids get their rightful chance to show what they're made of.

CLASSOF72
05-24-2010, 08:35 PM
Props to the Indian culture. May they produce legends of the game as they have the spiritual arena.

CLASSOF72
05-24-2010, 08:37 PM
no I'm with you. I was just trying to be funny cause you called me Russell Peters before.

India is the second most populous country in the world and brown people everywhere would start watching basketball. And there are a lot of us brown people.

Right, and why not contribute to the NBA. Those two guys sound like they have a chance to go far. Any great undiscovered PG's in India?

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 08:41 PM
Right, and why not contribute to the NBA. Those two guys sound like they have a chance to go far. Any great undiscovered PG's in India?

no idea because basketball is rising in popularity but very slowly. my brother was pretty good at point guard when he went for state championship ( playing for punjab ) until he shattered his kneecap in a motorcycle accident

RaptorizedKevin
05-24-2010, 09:09 PM
wth there are some racist comments on here, i thought you get banned for racist comments.

thescore53
05-24-2010, 09:11 PM
wth there are some racist comments on here, i thought you get banned for racist comments.

lol tryna get people banned, you did that to maharaj

td0tsfinest
05-24-2010, 09:51 PM
wth there are some racist comments on here, i thought you get banned for racist comments.

It really wasn't that offensive, you don't see Asandhu going to the mods complaining about that comment.

ryder78c
05-24-2010, 10:03 PM
wth there are some racist comments on here, i thought you get banned for racist comments.

Snitchin?

im black and dont care what people gotta say about race! it dont matter no more, unless you wearing a hood and ridin a horse and burning crosses

Look at that booty
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Rego247
05-24-2010, 10:10 PM
nice to see some brown ball players for once. and canadians at that

CLASSOF72
05-24-2010, 10:19 PM
no idea because basketball is rising in popularity but very slowly. my brother was pretty good at point guard when he went for state championship ( playing for punjab ) until he shattered his kneecap in a motorcycle accident

Sorry to hear that. Glad to hear Basketball is coming up in India.

CLASSOF72
05-24-2010, 10:20 PM
Snitchin?

im black and dont care what people gotta say about race! it dont matter no more, unless you wearing a hood and ridin a horse and burning crosses

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Nice booty how could anyone of any race not be digging that!

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 10:41 PM
It really wasn't that offensive, you don't see Asandhu going to the mods complaining about that comment.

:shush:

0nekhmer
05-24-2010, 10:54 PM
this isnt news to me :P

haha all about brampton baby!
that would be cool though, first indian in the NBA

JordanPippen
05-24-2010, 11:04 PM
Nice. Don't think these two will make it all the way, but I'm still optimistic that there will be Indians in the NBA (for some reason.. i see it being a PG). Give it 10-20 years. India's developing at a fast pace (they just created a national cricket organization). As the middle class population grows, we'll start to see more Indians branching out to the arts and sports. I mean the odds are with us... 1 billion plus? C'mon now...

btw y'all ever heard of pasha bains?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQtqgyVMG5o&feature=related

asandhu23
05-24-2010, 11:59 PM
Nice. Don't think these two will make it all the way, but I'm still optimistic that there will be Indians in the NBA (for some reason.. i see it being a PG). Give it 10-20 years. India's developing at a fast pace (they just created a national cricket organization). As the middle class population grows, we'll start to see more Indians branching out to the arts and sports. I mean the odds are with us... 1 billion plus? C'mon now...

btw y'all ever heard of pasha bains?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQtqgyVMG5o&feature=related

nice another punjabi. we need to get rest of the indians to step up to the plate

_KB24_
05-25-2010, 12:05 AM
Basketball will never be anything big back in the subcontinent. Heck, none of the desi countries can even get a decent soccer team running, "the universal game", and we expect to get a bball team going? Maharajah was right, even field hockey, which was COMPLETELY OWNED by India and Pakistan back in the 60 or 70s, is now not even a shadow of what it was. And believe me, people literally laugh when they see people play ball. I've been to Delhi, and was surprised to see a outdoor basketball court. What was not surprising was the 20 bhel puri stands on the court and hoop being used as a umbrella stand. I'm serious :shrug:

iFYouSeekAmy
05-25-2010, 12:05 AM
Oh no..

PatsSoxKnicks
05-25-2010, 12:35 AM
This is great! I hope they make it and go to the Knicks. That'd be awesome. I'd be able to root for my fellow Indians and my favorite team.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-25-2010, 12:37 AM
nice another punjabi. we need to get rest of the indians to step up to the plate

You punjabis are everywhere. I feel like almost every indian I know is punjabi.

MaHaRaJaH
05-25-2010, 12:44 AM
lol tryna get people banned, you did that to maharaj

lolololol!!!!!!

MaHaRaJaH
05-25-2010, 12:45 AM
You punjabis are everywhere. I feel like almost every indian I know is punjabi.

We make up some 2% India lol

asandhu23
05-25-2010, 01:44 AM
You punjabis are everywhere. I feel like almost every indian I know is punjabi.


We make up some 2% India lol

and most of us are also richer than the rest of the indians.


and welcome back, Maharajah.

_KB24_
05-25-2010, 03:50 AM
and most of us are also richer than the rest of the indians.


and welcome back, Maharajah.

You should take a trip up north to BC. I have cousins their, and lets just say you could fit a whole Pind inside their house. I'm not kidding :speechless:

Gnts-Wrs-Nrs
05-25-2010, 04:57 AM
sweet

PatelJ1010
05-25-2010, 04:59 AM
dude if this 2 kids make the NBA than people in India are going to stop watching Cricket and play basketball thinking the got the SKILLS....**** no more Sachin Tendukar anymore.....more like Leebroom Jaemes (Im indian but man when i go to india people can even say Lebron's name)...the only name i remember every one being able to say is "Raja Bell"

PatelJ1010
05-25-2010, 05:02 AM
and most of us are also richer than the rest of the indians.


and welcome back, Maharajah.

soo true bro.....u live in the BAY AREA ???Goo By San Jose or Santa Clara often...hella Brown people thats wasup

MaHaRaJaH
05-25-2010, 07:42 AM
soo true bro.....u live in the BAY AREA ???Goo By San Jose or Santa Clara often...hella Brown people thats wasup
I seen tonz in Yuba City lol

MaHaRaJaH
05-25-2010, 07:43 AM
and most of us are also richer than the rest of the indians.


and welcome back, Maharajah.

thanks bruh and that's true. Especially in Africa.

asandhu23
05-25-2010, 01:32 PM
You should take a trip up north to BC. I have cousins their, and lets just say you could fit a whole Pind inside their house. I'm not kidding :speechless:

Trip? Dude I lived there for 13 years. I grew up there. I know this. My house there is like that.




soo true bro.....u live in the BAY AREA ???Goo By San Jose or Santa Clara often...hella Brown people thats wasup

lol you forgot Fremont.

td0tsfinest
05-25-2010, 01:37 PM
Trip? Dude I lived there for 13 years. I grew up there. I know this. My house there is like that.





lol you forgot Fremont.

I think he was referring to British Columbia. Unless, you lived in BC for 13 years.

asandhu23
05-25-2010, 02:30 PM
I think he was referring to British Columbia. Unless, you lived in BC for 13 years.

damn... thats what happens when you read too fast.

lol hey maharajah, you could fit 2 whole pinds in my house in H-town.

MaHaRaJaH
05-25-2010, 08:35 PM
damn... thats what happens when you read too fast.

lol hey maharajah, you could fit 2 whole pinds in my house in H-town.


where was that? in Ancaster area? lol

JNA17
05-25-2010, 08:39 PM
Sweet. India rocks

asandhu23
05-25-2010, 09:19 PM
where was that? in Ancaster area? lol

Hillsborough, California...

Eagles4Lyfe
05-25-2010, 09:34 PM
yessss i love this hopefully means more indian girls on tv:D:D

FarOutIos
05-25-2010, 09:43 PM
I hope they make it to the nba... that way the all star weekend can include a four team brother tournament. The Gasol and Lopez brothers would be the favorites. With the first round matchup against the Collins bros and the Indian bros.

asandhu23
05-26-2010, 01:45 AM
Chak De Phatte