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thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:04 PM
CHICAGO -- Chris Bosh's agent has told the Toronto Raptors that he's narrowed his list of preferred teams to five, two sources told ESPN.com's Chad Ford at the NBA draft camp.

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The list of five teams -- Toronto plus the Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat and New York Knicks, sources said -- were given to Toronto management in case the Raptors want to construct a sign-and-trade deal (assuming he doesn't re-sign with Toronto).

Bosh likes that option, sources told Ford, because he'd get one more year on his contract and could make more money.

Sources said the Raptors prefer a sign-and-trade if Bosh is intent on leaving as well. They likely would want a big man to replace the 6-10, 230-pound Bosh in the lineup.

One source said Bosh's decision hinges on where LeBron James signs.

"If LeBron decides to go to either New York or Chicago, I think that's where you'll see Chris land," the source told Ford. "If LeBron stays in Cleveland, I think the process is more wide open."

Bosh, 26, is an unrestricted free agent. He averaged 24 points per game last season and has averaged 20.2 points per game for his career.


atleast toronto is one of the teams he's considering :sigh:

Stunner
05-21-2010, 04:06 PM
:dance:

ldc62
05-21-2010, 04:10 PM
Fine Houston doesn't want you anyways... Now I'm hoping Bosh stays or to the Bulls.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 04:12 PM
Bynum, Farmar, and Sasha for Bosh and Jack.

IversonIsKrazy
05-21-2010, 04:13 PM
ooo, he left out 2 FA teams, New Jersey and LA Clipper. Feel bad for the Nets, one of the worst teams I had ever seen, (barely missed the title of worst record by 2 wins), and didn't get the first pick, while having enough money for 2 MAX. I mean, if they got Wall, with LeBRon & Bosh, holy crap, but the balls didnt fall their way, and now Free Agency wont either. Honestly, Lakers is the only S&T that would be benefical to the team, Miami will only offer Bealsey & JO, NY will offer Lee & Douglas or something, chicago wont give up Noah or Rose. We should just let him walk to be honest, unless LA is interested.

Draco
05-21-2010, 04:13 PM
ooo, he left out 2 FA teams, New Jersey and LA Clipper.



And then there were 5...

sixers247
05-21-2010, 04:14 PM
Rose
Anyone
James
Bosh
Noah

yikessssssssss

Jonathan2323
05-21-2010, 04:15 PM
There goes thescore53's argument that he wants to be the man and wouldn't play with D Wade.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 04:17 PM
Lakers still have a say in the balance of power with this free agent class, because if they put Bynum on the table for Bosh, he beats any S & T from any other team.

Pauleboman
05-21-2010, 04:18 PM
This just keeps getting better..:dance2:

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:18 PM
Bynum, Farmar, and Sasha for Bosh and Jack.

bosh and calderon

arkanian215
05-21-2010, 04:19 PM
ooo, he left out 2 FA teams, New Jersey and LA Clipper. Feel bad for the Nets, one of the worst teams I had ever seen, (barely missed the title of worst record by 2 wins), and didn't get the first pick, while having enough money for 2 MAX. I mean, if they got Wall, with LeBRon & Bosh, holy crap, but the balls didnt fall their way, and now Free Agency wont either. Honestly, Lakers is the only S&T that would be benefical to the team, Miami will only offer Bealsey & JO, NY will offer Lee & Douglas or something, chicago wont give up Noah or Rose. We should just let him walk to be honest, unless LA is interested.

I'm not too disappointed. He has made it clear throughout the year that he doesn't want to be a Net. You can't force someone to want to be on your team.

I'm hoping for Favors.

OT Thriller
05-21-2010, 04:20 PM
If the Lakers dont win it all, this trade could go down for them.

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:20 PM
There goes thescore53's argument that he wants to be the man and wouldn't play with D Wade.

hey atleast he was kind enough to put Toronto on that list lol,


and also theres heat fans argument that he will leave without an sign and trade

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 04:20 PM
bosh and calderon

Done. Call Mitch after the Finals.

knickerbockerny
05-21-2010, 04:21 PM
I don't see how he works for the Lakers. There size is what is adding them in advancing deep in the playoffs. Now you lose Bynum and you won't stand a chance against the Celtics of the world.

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:21 PM
This just keeps getting better..:dance2:

actually it doesnt ,this makes it worse cause now we know there will be a bidding war and bulls chances are low unless they offer noah

PatsSoxKnicks
05-21-2010, 04:23 PM
I wonder if he included Toronto in his list so they'd be more willing to sign and trade him which obviously appears to be what he wants. So basically he makes Toronto think he's sincere about returning and then they'd be more willing to do a S&T because he considered their team.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 04:24 PM
I don't see how he works for the Lakers. There size is what is adding them in advancing deep in the playoffs. Now you lose Bynum and you won't stand a chance against the Celtics of the world.

Pau Gasol and Bosh are big enough, and the Celtics are pretty much making their last stand this year. Bosh is 26 and is a proven 20 and 10 guy.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-21-2010, 04:24 PM
And its nice to see the Knicks on the list with everyone saying the Knicks have no shot at him or Lebron or Wade

Frezhnitz
05-21-2010, 04:24 PM
trade bynum? Thats stupid.

tking07
05-21-2010, 04:26 PM
actually it doesnt ,this makes it worse cause now we know there will be a bidding war and bulls chances are low unless they offer noah

I think he's referring to if James lands in Chi, Bosh is more likely to go there....just saying

I don't think Chi will get Bosh or James....

Even though I hope for both:D

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 04:26 PM
I think this gives Toronto leverage in this situation so that we dont get crap back in a S&T...

Say he's fine with going to the 4 other teams mentioned, whoever puts up the best S&T package for Toronto will get Bosh. It could turn out to be a bidding war, instead of us just getting an expiring and future 2nd.

If a team offers us garbage, we turn it down, and tell them to just sign Bosh directly... but CB won't want that cuz then he wont get the max.

Draco
05-21-2010, 04:27 PM
actually it doesnt ,this makes it worse cause now we know there will be a bidding war and bulls chances are low unless they offer noah

Or unless Lebron wants to come to the Bulls since Bosh's plans hinge on Lebron...

Jonathan2323
05-21-2010, 04:28 PM
I think this gives Toronto leverage in this situation so that we dont get crap back in a S&T...

Say he's fine with going to the 4 other teams mentioned, whoever puts up the best S&T package for Toronto will get Bosh. It could turn out to be a bidding war, instead of us just getting an expiring and future 2nd.

If a team offers us garbage, we turn it down, and tell them to just sign Bosh directly... but CB won't want that cuz then he wont get the max.

He's just keeping his options open, but in the end he will choose where he goes.

GSW Hoops
05-21-2010, 04:29 PM
Haha poor Raptors fans.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 04:29 PM
Or unless Lebron wants to come to the Bulls since Bosh's plans hinge on Lebron...

It still doesn't mean the Raptors have to accept Deng in a S&T, and if they don't do a S&T and the Bulls sign Lebron, they wont have money for Bosh.

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 04:30 PM
Bosh is not going to Chicago to join LeBron. That wouldn't be possible unless Toronto took back Deng's monster contract to make it work financially. Why would Toronto take Deng if they're overpaying Hedo and just drafted DeRozan? Toronto doesn't want Hinrich either so this doesn't work.

Bosh might go to Chicago if Chicago doesn't get LeBron, but both LeBron and Bosh will not be in Chicago this summer.

Jonathan2323
05-21-2010, 04:32 PM
5. He's not going back to T-Dot
4. He's not going to NY cuz LeBron is staying.
3.But I doubt he goes to L.A because Lakers wont let Bynum go.

That leaves Heat Lakers and Bulls.

2.Heat won't look as good as Bulls.

1. Noah,Bosh,Deng,??? and Rose! enought said

So your saying Noah,Deng,Rose>Wade,Beasley,9 mil extra cap space

ok

C_Mund
05-21-2010, 04:32 PM
Haha poor Raptors fans.

man, and that's coming from a Warriors fan....sad times

USMCLaker
05-21-2010, 04:32 PM
I wonder if he included Toronto in his list so they'd be more willing to sign and trade him which obviously appears to be what he wants. So basically he makes Toronto think he's sincere about returning and then they'd be more willing to do a S&T because he considered their team.

Exactly, his wish list really is a four pony horse race.

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 04:34 PM
He's just keeping his options open, but in the end he will choose where he goes.

He also wants the max. Thats his main priority right now, and he needs Toronto to do it.

If for example Miami offers a bad package, TO can wait it out to get the very most for him, because the longer the bidding war goes on, the more we can get in return.

BC will most defintely get the Lakers involved, as they are the most likely to give up the best package because they cant just sign him outright.

If it comes down to not getting the max and playing in Miami/NY/Chicago or getting the max and going to the Lakers, it should be a pretty easy decison for both Bosh and Toronto.

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:34 PM
I wonder if he included Toronto in his list so they'd be more willing to sign and trade him which obviously appears to be what he wants. So basically he makes Toronto think he's sincere about returning and then they'd be more willing to do a S&T because he considered their team.

or maybe he's putting the knicks on the list to make look like he wants to be a knick, just incase they get lebron , so people dont say hey you didnt want us before now we have lebron and your riding our dicks now

Draco
05-21-2010, 04:34 PM
It still doesn't mean the Raptors have to accept Deng in a S&T, and if they don't do a S&T and the Bulls sign Lebron, they wont have money for Bosh.

Maybe the Bulls do a S&T with Lebron and Deng while signing Bosh outright.

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:36 PM
5. He's not going back to T-Dot
4. He's not going to NY cuz LeBron is staying.
3.But I doubt he goes to L.A because Lakers wont let Bynum go.

That leaves Heat Lakers and Bulls.

2.Heat won't look as good as Bulls.

1. Noah,Bosh,Deng,??? and Rose! enought said

wow 1st post, you had to share your psycic powers with us, thank you

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:39 PM
Haha poor Raptors fans.

no, im happy atleast he put us on the list, i feel like i'm in a exclusive group :)

Jonathan2323
05-21-2010, 04:40 PM
I think he stays in Toronto (said this to make thescore53 happy)

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:40 PM
Maybe the Bulls do a S&T with Lebron and Deng while signing Bosh outright.

yes he will give up 130 mill just to play with lebron are you nuts

clutchski
05-21-2010, 04:41 PM
If Bosh leaves, I guarantee it will be through a S&T. No outright BS. Book it.

C_Mund
05-21-2010, 04:41 PM
I think something that's been universally ignored in s&t scenarios is Bryan Colangelo's penchant for 3-team trades. We may see Bosh end up in one of those cities but bring back a different package all together.
That's the only thing I like about BC, is that no matter how much time we posters spend on the trade machine, he'll come up with something that nobody's thought of.

BOSTON617
05-21-2010, 04:44 PM
Lakers still have a say in the balance of power with this free agent class, because if they put Bynum on the table for Bosh, he beats any S & T from any other team.

garnett or perkins just saying

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:45 PM
No doubt, beasly is whack

wow post number 2 is just as ********

BOSTON617
05-21-2010, 04:46 PM
i know we are not on the list but he said any other team lol he'll stay in toronto or knicks with lebron

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:46 PM
garnett or perkins just saying

loool ..... o wait your serious

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 04:46 PM
garnett or perkins just saying

The Raps would take Bynum over KG and Perk.

BOSTON617
05-21-2010, 04:47 PM
bosh for pau would benfit you guys too

bosh>>>>>>>>> pauuuu

BOSTON617
05-21-2010, 04:47 PM
The Raps would take Bynum over KG and Perk.

maybe perk but not kg stop being a homer :facepalm::facepalm:

BOSTON617
05-21-2010, 04:48 PM
loool ..... o wait your serious

your telling me as a raptor fan you rather bynum a man who is not healthy over kg playing great ball or perk a man who accepts his role and get his **** done every night :facepalm:

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 04:49 PM
Beasley for Bosh is better than nothing for the Raptors. It's better than what Atlanta will get for Joe Johnson (nothing), Utah will get for Boozer (nothing), Cleveland might get for LeBron (nothing if he leaves), and Phoenix might get for Amare (nothing if he leaves).

Bosh is the ONLY high level free agent that might actually help his old team out rather than just leave.

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:49 PM
maybe perk but not kg stop being a homer :facepalm::facepalm:

i'd much rather have bynum than kg

Draco
05-21-2010, 04:50 PM
yes he will give up 130 mill just to play with lebron are you nuts

He'd be giving up ~$30 mil.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 04:50 PM
maybe perk but not kg stop being a homer :facepalm::facepalm:

They are not tradeing Bosh for a 34 year old PF who is almost done in 2 or 3 years over of a 22 year old Center.

BOSTON617
05-21-2010, 04:52 PM
i'd much rather have bynum than kg

thats pretty dumb kg might be older but bynum is not going to last in the nba bynum is playing like shaq lol and shaqs almost 40... ask any magic fan or cav fan who is shutting people done kg... he is still a mosnter he shotts 12 shots a game avg 16 8-9 boards he isnt as selfish as he use to be.... come on man its really not that difficult to see if its la vs boston pls watch how kg shuts out pau gasol

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:52 PM
your telling me as a raptor fan you rather bynum a man who is not healthy over kg playing great ball or perk a man who accepts his role and get his **** done every night :facepalm:

you mean the annoying 70 year old man with gimpy knee's and the always mad face butter fingers perkins over a young promising center that's busting *** right now you deserve a :facepalm:

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:52 PM
He'd be giving up ~$30 mil.

ye my bad typo

BOSTON617
05-21-2010, 04:53 PM
They are not tradeing Bosh for a 34 year old PF who is almost done in 2 or 3 years over of a 22 year old Center.

ok bosh for kg and a 1st rder is better then bynum lol

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 04:53 PM
ok bosh for kg and a 1st rder is better then bynum lol

But, he didn't put Boston on the list, lol.

BOSTON617
05-21-2010, 04:53 PM
you mean the annoying 70 year old man with gimpy knee's and the always mad face butter fingers perkins over a young promising center that's busting *** right now you deserve a :facepalm:

the only thing bynum is promising you is an injury str8 up

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:54 PM
they are not tradeing bosh for a 34 year old pf who is almost done in 2 or 3 years over of a 22 year old center.

+1

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 04:54 PM
At some point, the NBA has to stop giving LA everything. If LA gets Bosh for Bynum, that's just total BS. Is Jerry West taking over in Toronto or something?

BOSTON617
05-21-2010, 04:55 PM
But, he didn't put Boston on the list, lol.

i said that a while ago you said over any team and i said thats not true i dont want bosh i rather kg sorry.... kg is a nasty defender we dont need offense to win its all about defense out chemistry is good and our defense is # 1

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:55 PM
ok bosh for kg and a 1st rder is better then bynum lol

no it's not

Jonathan2323
05-21-2010, 04:56 PM
ok bosh for kg and a 1st rder is better then bynum lol

yeah 5 years ago

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:56 PM
this should end bosh to celtics right now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KeULR14tVE

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 04:57 PM
At some point, the NBA has to stop giving LA everything. If LA gets Bosh for Bynum, that's just total BS. Is Jerry West taking over in Toronto or something?

Why? It's within the rules and the trade would match salaries. Just because the Lakers don't need to dump salary like certain teams.

thescore53
05-21-2010, 04:57 PM
"wow" someone is bitter, I really feel bad for you and your team.

post num 3 man your on a roll

the_jon
05-21-2010, 04:59 PM
I wonder if he included Toronto in his list so they'd be more willing to sign and trade him which obviously appears to be what he wants. So basically he makes Toronto think he's sincere about returning and then they'd be more willing to do a S&T because he considered their team.
You are an idiot. The purpose of a sign-and-trade is to get something back for our best player instead of letting him walk away for nothing, not because he's acting nice to us. :facepalm:

Draco
05-21-2010, 05:00 PM
In the last 3 seasons Bynum has played only 61% of the games compared with Deng's 74%... just sayin'

USMCLaker
05-21-2010, 05:01 PM
Haha, Bosh causing destruction and meyham in the PSD forums.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:01 PM
In the last 3 seasons Bynum has played only 61% of the games compared with Deng's 74%... just sayin'

And the funny thing is, Bynum still has a higher trade value.

the_jon
05-21-2010, 05:01 PM
you mean the annoying 70 year old man with gimpy knee's and the always mad face butter fingers perkins over a young promising center that's busting *** right now you deserve a :facepalm:
:clap:

thescore53
05-21-2010, 05:02 PM
In the last 3 seasons Bynum has played only 61% of the games compared with Deng's 74%... just sayin'

ye but bynums left nut is a better than deng himself

oak2455
05-21-2010, 05:02 PM
post num 3 man your on a roll

why even respond hes a troll.......btw me being a Knicks fan(please no jokes) what would u want for Bosh??:eyebrow:

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 05:03 PM
In the last 3 seasons Bynum has played only 61% of the games compared with Deng's 74%... just sayin'

LOL, and your point?We already have an overpaid SF. We would never take back Deng in a S&T for Bosh. Bynum would compliment Bargnani perfectly and is worth the risk, just by his potential and by getting Bosh out of the East.

oak2455
05-21-2010, 05:03 PM
In the last 3 seasons Bynum has played only 61% of the games compared with Deng's 74%... just sayin'

At the trade deadline did anyone want Deng and his huge contract?? just asking

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:03 PM
ye but bynums left nut is a better than deng himself

His Contract is also. It can be voided by the team in 2 years, if the team does not, he would have 1 year left.

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:03 PM
Why? It's within the rules and the trade would match salaries. Just because the Lakers don't need to dump salary like certain teams.

It would work financially, but I don't see why Toronto wants to encourage a league that still has only had 8 teams win a title in the last 30 years. At some point, it would be nice to see a Saints type story work in the NBA but that won't happen if teams keep giving away players like Gasol to LA and Ray Allen to Boston.

If it did, this league might start getting more fans so they beat a US pro league other than the MLS for fan support.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:04 PM
It would work financially, but I don't see why Toronto wants to encourage a league that still has only had 8 teams win a title in the last 30 years. At some point, it would be nice to see a Saints type story work in the NBA but that won't happen if teams keep giving away players like Gasol to LA and Ray Allen to Boston.

If it did, this league might start getting more fans so they beat a US pro league other than the MLS for fan support.

Thr Raps have to look out for the Raps.

USMCLaker
05-21-2010, 05:06 PM
It would work financially, but I don't see why Toronto wants to encourage a league that still has only had 8 teams win a title in the last 30 years. At some point, it would be nice to see a Saints type story work in the NBA but that won't happen if teams keep giving away players like Gasol to LA and Ray Allen to Boston.

If it did, this league might start getting more fans so they beat a US pro league other than the MLS for fan support.

In all fairness I don't think it's not the league that makes those trades happen it's the GM's and ownership.

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:07 PM
Thr Raps have to look out for the Raps.

Is Bynum really who you want? The guy can't even shine next to Gasol and Kobe. What makes you think he'll do better next to Calderon and Andrea B? Bynum will just become the next Jermaine O'Neal that Toronto is trying to dump while LA wins another title or two.

jackdawson
05-21-2010, 05:08 PM
My prediction on a near future thread:

Both LeBron and Bosh to the bulls.

ldc62
05-21-2010, 05:08 PM
maybe perk but not kg stop being a homer :facepalm::facepalm:

I much rather have Perk than KG... KG is old, we need to rebuild not pay those old guys (Hedo). But no to Bynum or Perk or KG...

thescore53
05-21-2010, 05:08 PM
why even respond hes a troll.......btw me being a Knicks fan(please no jokes) what would u want for Bosh??:eyebrow:

ummm ahhh maybe chandler,

Southsideheat
05-21-2010, 05:09 PM
I think something that's been universally ignored in s&t scenarios is Bryan Colangelo's penchant for 3-team trades. We may see Bosh end up in one of those cities but bring back a different package all together.
That's the only thing I like about BC, is that no matter how much time we posters spend on the trade machine, he'll come up with something that nobody's thought of.

You mean like......

Bulls get Bosh
Raptors get Al Jefferson
Timberwolves get Deng, Gibson and a draft pick

?

Draco
05-21-2010, 05:09 PM
ye but bynums left nut is a better than deng himself

He's been more effective than Deng this season in 30 minutes per game over 65 games. But if he's out with injuries next season, you won't have Pau to take up the slack... you'll have Bargs.

thescore53
05-21-2010, 05:11 PM
Is Bynum really who you want? The guy can't even shine next to Gasol and Kobe. What makes you think he'll do better next to Calderon and Andrea B? Bynum will just become the next Jermaine O'Neal that Toronto is trying to dump while LA wins another title or two.

bynum would be the num 1 option and franchise player

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:11 PM
In all fairness I don't think it's not the league that makes those trades happen it's the GM's and ownership.

Well duh. I know that. If the other GM's in the league can be patient for a couple years, this entire league will be wide open. That was the case a few years ago when Dallas and Miami were in the Finals and a small market team was winning based on the draft (San Antonio).

But what screwed up the NBA (unless you are a fan of 2 of the 30 teams) for balanced play was the impatient Sonics, Grizzlies and Wolves. They gave away elite talent only to produce the same crap. If they would have been patient, you never know how good Mayo, Gay and Pau could be now. Or Ray Allen and Durant. Or KG and Love.

ldc62
05-21-2010, 05:13 PM
Thats not fair... Bulls won 6 in the 90s... now they are going to win about 4 more in the 2010s. So 10 in a span of ~30 years.

Jonathan2323
05-21-2010, 05:14 PM
You mean like......

Bulls get Bosh
Raptors get Al Jefferson
Timberwolves get Deng, Gibson and a draft pick

?

You just raped the Wolves

Markg
05-21-2010, 05:14 PM
In all fairness I don't think it's not the league that makes those trades happen it's the GM's and ownership.

It's two fold. The revenue system in the NBA makes it easy for super-rich owners to dominate, while cheaper owners have to give up super-stars constantly (kinda like MLB 10 years ago).

It also is the age old conundrum in sports: owners who know they will make more money with a mediocre product than spending lavishily on a great one.

Why wont the Bulls end up with Bosh and Lebron? Because as much as fan's hate to admit it, Reinsdorf knows that just one of those players is more than enough to keep ticket sales through the roof. In fact, the Bulls sell-out as a 30 win team anyway. That said you can't pass a chance to get the best player in the game for the same max price that top 20 players are being paid. Thats also bad business. But shell out +-28mil to make the same revenue you could spending 14mil is even worse business.

kblo247
05-21-2010, 05:15 PM
I love Drew mainly for the fact he could be the first Laker we can watch grow since Kobe and Fisher, but I'm realistic and have to say that his health is a concern.

If LA could work out a deal of Bynum and Sasha for Bosh and Jack I have to say that would be a perfect deal for both sides as Bynum is the best asset that Toronto can get in a sign and trade and it would place Pau at center where he is damn dominant while also clearing the post for Kobe and Ron as they get older with his skill set and jump shot

Toronto gets a big that compliments Bargs's strengths and weaknesses, and he has a deal that is low risk because of the low amount of years and team option.

LA could just as easily make a run at JO, Shaq, Kurt Thomas, or even Kwame for the vet min to back him up and save the MLE as well.

I am a realist and we might have to do this to make sure Lebron doesn't have a running mate and keep the balance of power. If the Lakers are serious Bynum in a S&T is better than what any other team can offer.

Valkyrie
05-21-2010, 05:15 PM
LMFAO at Bulls fans
Theyre acting like James is already set to go there

LeBron is not going to the Bulls lmao

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 05:15 PM
bynum would be the num 1 option and franchise player

Not to mention he may help Hedo regain his form as he had his best years with Howard controlling the paint.

Southsideheat
05-21-2010, 05:16 PM
You just raped the Wolves

Not really though. They want Love to start and Brewer and Deng on the wings would be amazing defensively. T'Wolve fans out there??

Draco
05-21-2010, 05:17 PM
You just raped the Wolves

Whatever.. the wolves considered trading Jefferson for a SF before the trade deadline. Deng was under consideration. They're expected to revisit trade scenarios this summer.

Legitimate
05-21-2010, 05:18 PM
LMFAO at Bulls fans
Theyre acting like James is already set to go there

LeBron is not going to the Bulls lmao

x1000

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 05:18 PM
I love Drew mainly for the fact he could be the first Laker we can watch grow since Kobe and Fisher, but I'm realistic and have to say that his health is a concern.

If LA could work out a deal of Bynum and Sasha for Bosh and Jack I have to say that would be a perfect deal for both sides as Bynum is the best asset that Toronto can get in a sign and trade and it would place Pau at center where he is damn dominant while also clearing the post for Kobe and Ron as they get older with his skill set and jump shot

Toronto gets a big that compliments Bargs's strengths and weaknesses, and he has a deal that is low risk because of the low amount of years and team option.

LA could just as easily make a run at JO, Shaq, Kurt Thomas, or even Kwame for the vet min to back him up and save the MLE as well.

I am a realist and we might have to do this to make sure Lebron doesn't have a running mate and keep the balance of power. If the Lakers are serious Bynum in a S&T is better than what any other team can offer.

Bynum and Vujacic for Bosh and Calderon. Maybe throw in Farmar as a S&T, doesnt really matter. Jose is the one more likely to be traded over Jack.

abe_froman
05-21-2010, 05:19 PM
thats not fair... Bulls won 6 in the 90s... Now they are going to win about 4 more in the 2010s. So 10 in a span of ~30 years.

:d

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:20 PM
The Raptors would be better served trading Bosh to Miami for Beasley. Beasley and Bynum are both all hype as of now yet Beasley makes a ton less and would be easier to move if it doesn't work out. Wade and Bosh are good together, but can still be beat because they still lack a PG, SF and C.

Legitimate
05-21-2010, 05:20 PM
I'm happy that I know BC is goin to get somethin back in return for bosh. To be honest i think thats the only way to go to get this team back on playoff track.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-21-2010, 05:21 PM
Rose
Anyone
James
Bosh
Noah

yikessssssssss

not gonna happen

TimLincecum=GOD
05-21-2010, 05:21 PM
Bosh to Lakers for Bynum Walton and Sasha

Fisher (if resigned) Bryant Artest Gasol Bosh = Championship for the next decade

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-21-2010, 05:22 PM
Done. Call Mitch after the Finals.

eww calderon sucks

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 05:23 PM
The Raptors would be better served trading Bosh to Miami for Beasley. Beasley and Bynum are both all hype as of now yet Beasley makes a ton less and would be easier to move if it doesn't work out. Wade and Bosh are good together, but can still be beat because they still lack a PG, SF and C.

No thanks Im sure BC would rather a talented yet injury proned C over an undersized and unproven PF.

Cubsfan365
05-21-2010, 05:24 PM
LMFAO at Bulls fans
Theyre acting like James is already set to go there

LeBron is not going to the Bulls lmao
I love how you already know this somehow. He has a better chance of going to the Bulls than anyone else besides the Cavs, and it's about equal with them.

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 05:24 PM
eww calderon sucks

... at defence.

oak2455
05-21-2010, 05:27 PM
I love how you already know this somehow. He has a better chance of going to the Bulls than anyone else besides the Cavs, and it's about equal with them.

ok:confused:

ink
05-21-2010, 05:27 PM
No thanks Im sure BC would rather a talented yet injury proned C over an undersized and unproven PF.

Just like he liked an injury prone PG in Ford?
Just like he liked an injury debilitated C in JO?

Do you honestly think that after those two screwups with injured players that he would be forgiven for picking up a injury prone C now?

I don't.

If he makes that deal and it blows up too, he will never work in the NBA again. Guaranteed.

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 05:28 PM
I love how you already know this somehow. He has a better chance of going to the Bulls than anyone else besides the Cavs, and it's about equal with them.


Take your own advice. :rolleyes:

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:28 PM
... at defence.

But he can shoot and pass, plus it would make Gasol happy.:)

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-21-2010, 05:29 PM
bosh for pau would benfit you guys too

bosh>>>>>>>>> pauuuu


thats pretty dumb kg might be older but bynum is not going to last in the nba bynum is playing like shaq lol and shaqs almost 40... ask any magic fan or cav fan who is shutting people done kg... he is still a mosnter he shotts 12 shots a game avg 16 8-9 boards he isnt as selfish as he use to be.... come on man its really not that difficult to see if its la vs boston pls watch how kg shuts out pau gasol

shows how much you know about basketball

pau is definetly a better player than bosh and bynum totally shutted down garnett this year

RipVW
05-21-2010, 05:29 PM
So, basically, if LeBron signs with Chicago, he gets to play with Rose, Bosh, and Noah. Thats not bad.

So basically, Miami can sign Wade and either Bosh or LeBron. So that would be Wade(28), Bosh/James and stuff.

NY could get both but it would be James, Bosh, and stuff.

Or, if James goes to Chicago, the lineup could include Rose(21), Noah(25), Bosh(25), and James(25).

jackdawson
05-21-2010, 05:29 PM
not gonna happen

ssshhhh!!! Don't say it! You are gonna be bashed!

kblo247
05-21-2010, 05:30 PM
Bynum and Vujacic for Bosh and Calderon. Maybe throw in Farmar as a S&T, doesnt really matter. Jose is the one more likely to be traded over Jack.

Farmar is a free agent, restricted, but free agent who has said he wants to be a starter on a team. That is why I didn't have him listed. Sasha is an expiring but I would just have to think they would go bad deal for bad deal with Jose and Luke if they were involved unless they thought more about Derozan than we all think LA does and can pry him away in Jack's place.

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 05:31 PM
HAHA :laugh:


Bulls fans were as bad when they thought they were gonna get Kobe they all loved him and wanted to give trash for him then they didn't get him.......and they all hated him.

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:32 PM
No thanks Im sure BC would rather a talented yet injury proned C over an undersized and unproven PF.

Toronto can do better than Bynum. Bynum has not excelled playing on the most talented roster in the NBA. He's got a terrible contract and a bad injury history. And a trade to Toronto isn't the type of deal that will motivate him.

Toronto would be better served trying 3 team deals that involve moving Bosh and Beasley or Bosh and Eddy Curry's expiring.

iggypop123
05-21-2010, 05:33 PM
no way buss takes on bosh at 130 million when kobe and gasol are already making huge salary

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:33 PM
Just like he liked an injury prone PG in Ford?
Just like he liked an injury debilitated C in JO?

Do you honestly think that after those two screwups with injured players that he would be forgiven for picking up a injury prone C now?

I don't.

If he makes that deal and it blows up too, he will never work in the NBA again. Guaranteed.

Good post Ink. My point exactly.

Southsideheat
05-21-2010, 05:33 PM
Toronto was under .500 with Bosh, what makes them think they're going to be good next year with Bynum or anybody else for that matter?

They're not going to be good unless they get rid of Hedo and Calderon's contracts.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:35 PM
Toronto can do better than Bynum. Bynum has not excelled playing on the most talented roster in the NBA. He's got a terrible contract and a bad injury history. And a trade to Toronto isn't the type of deal that will motivate him.

Toronto would be better served trying 3 team deals that involve moving Bosh and Beasley or Bosh and Eddy Curry's expiring.

lol. Bynum could be a great player, and if he isn't they don't have to pick up his option in 2 years. He also has a great contract structure that will make him the leader for a S&T if the Lakers offered it. He would have 2 years to prove himself, if he is hurt, the Raptors don't pick up the 3rd year option. Very friendly contract.

JasonJohnHorn
05-21-2010, 05:35 PM
I tihnk that there is a serious chance he may re-sign with the Raps. I think they are the only team who may actually be willing to give him a max contract, and the extra year they can offer just sweetens the pot for him. I'm not sure any other teams think Bosh is worth that much, and Bosh can just always stay in TO for a season or two with his nice hefty contract and then ask for a trade.

But yeah, I gotta say it was a class act on his part to give TO a list so that they could potentially work a sign and trade that helps them. It shows a lot of class that he doesnt want to screw over the franchise that has invested so much in him. I have to applaude him for that, and as a Raptors fan, I have nothing but respect for Bosh, he has given an honest effort every night and if he chooses to leave, he has good reason as management has failed to build around him despite their efforts to.

ink
05-21-2010, 05:35 PM
Toronto can do better than Bynum. Bynum has not excelled playing on the most talented roster in the NBA. He's got a terrible contract and a bad injury history. And a trade to Toronto isn't the type of deal that will motivate him.

Toronto would be better served trying 3 team deals that involve moving Bosh and Beasley or Bosh and Eddy Curry's expiring.

Totally agree. The best S&T scenarios will have to be three team deals.

kblo247
05-21-2010, 05:36 PM
Toronto can do better than Bynum. Bynum has not excelled playing on the most talented roster in the NBA. He's got a terrible contract and a bad injury history. And a trade to Toronto isn't the type of deal that will motivate him.

Toronto would be better served trying 3 team deals that involve moving Bosh and Beasley or Bosh and Eddy Curry's expiring.

A two year deal with a team option is terrible for a 22 year old who has shown he can average 20 and 10 as a second option?

Worst comes to worst they can flip him as an expiring based off his potential, or maybe they can reroute him quickly to a team who wants a big.

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 05:37 PM
Toronto can do better than Bynum. Bynum has not excelled playing on the most talented roster in the NBA. He's got a terrible contract and a bad injury history. And a trade to Toronto isn't the type of deal that will motivate him.

Toronto would be better served trying 3 team deals that involve moving Bosh and Beasley or Bosh and Eddy Curry's expiring.

I thought he did good as a 3rd/4th option he averaged 15/8 and 1.4 BPG name another 3rd/4th option that did better?


You dont think those are good numbers for a 3rd/4th option?

Southsideheat
05-21-2010, 05:37 PM
Who would you rather have? Bynum or Al Jefferson?

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:37 PM
Toronto might want to try being good without the Bosh situation hanging over their head. Bargs can slide to his natural position of PF, Hedo would be made to step up, and DeRozan will be tested to see what his ceiling can become. Sometimes, a star can hold back a team. I'm not saying they'll be better, but they might find out that they need something other than Bynum. They might need a few minor players that won't suck up the spotlight.

Draco
05-21-2010, 05:38 PM
Totally agree. The best S&T scenarios will have to be three team deals.

For example?

njnets
05-21-2010, 05:39 PM
i dont understand why bosh doesn't list the nets as a team. the nets forwards are horrible. lopez would always have the best post player, allowing him to relax on D. sure the team needs some retooling, but he would be a big piece that would improve the team significantly. o well, he ruled out NJ a while ago so i guess theres no chance.

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 05:40 PM
Just like he liked an injury prone PG in Ford?
Just like he liked an injury debilitated C in JO?

Do you honestly think that after those two screwups with injured players that he would be forgiven for picking up a injury prone C now?

I don't.

If he makes that deal and it blows up too, he will never work in the NBA again. Guaranteed.

You have made the point about his injury history, but I am just wondering whats the best possible deal you see out there outside of Bynum that is realistic?

Deng? No- bad contract, already have Hedo.
Beasley?No- his lack of b-ball iq and lowered expectations of what he can do in the nba make him more of a risk than Bynum.jmo Also a Beasley Bargs Hedo frontcourt doesnt scare anyone.
Chandler or Lee- Nothing special. Lee wont solve our problems and Chandler's ceiling is prolly half of Bynum's.

What's the best option you see out of these 4 teams?

Southsideheat
05-21-2010, 05:41 PM
i dont understand why bosh doesn't list the nets as a team. the nets forwards are horrible. lopez would always have the best post player, allowing him to relax on D. sure the team needs some retooling, but he would be a big piece that would improve the team significantly. o well, he ruled out NJ a while ago so i guess theres no chance.

maybe he doesn't want to live in New Jersey.

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:42 PM
Bynum was supposed to be a stud by now. Gasol was brought in to compliment Bynum when really Gasol has carried the post in LA since he's been there. Playing next to Gasol would give most any center 15 points, 8 rebounds and and 1.5 blocks a game. And don't forget that a top 2 player on the planet is also getting attention every possession. At no point does Bynum take over a game for LA. It never happens. Even when opposing teams key on Kobe and Gasol, you don't see Bynum putting up dominating center performances. What happens when he goes to Toronto and he's playing with a lesser roster and a worse coach?

I have no faith that Bynum is worth half of his contract. For a small market team like Toronto, I look for better deals.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:43 PM
You have made the point about his injury history, but I am just wondering whats the best possible deal you see out there outside of Bynum that is realistic?

Deng? No- bad contract, already have Hedo.
Beasley?No- his lack of b-ball iq and lowered expectations of what he can do in the nba make him more of a risk than Bynum.jmo Also a Beasley Bargs Hedo frontcourt doesnt scare anyone.
Chandler or Lee- Nothing special. Lee wont solve our problems and Chandler's ceiling is prolly half of Bynum's.

What's the best option you see out of these 4 teams?

And, Bynum would be pretty happy as well because he would bet most of the touches in the post. When Gasol was hurt this year, Bynum was a 20-10 player. Health is a factor though, but he didn't tear an ACL like Jefferson and only has had arthroscopic surgery to date and will need another one at the end of the season for the meniscus.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-21-2010, 05:43 PM
Toronto can do better than Bynum. Bynum has not excelled playing on the most talented roster in the NBA. He's got a terrible contract and a bad injury history. And a trade to Toronto isn't the type of deal that will motivate him.

Toronto would be better served trying 3 team deals that involve moving Bosh and Beasley or Bosh and Eddy Curry's expiring.

I'd say decent

2 years + team option on 3rd year

Cubsfan365
05-21-2010, 05:43 PM
Take your own advice. :rolleyes:
No, he said there was no possibility LeBron goes to the Bulls and I said there is a better chance he does come to Chicago than anywhere else but Cleveland. That isn't exactly a secret at this point. Learn how to read.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:44 PM
Bynum was supposed to be a stud by now. Gasol was brought in to compliment Bynum when really Gasol has carried the post in LA since he's been there. Playing next to Gasol would give most any center 15 points, 8 rebounds and and 1.5 blocks a game. And don't forget that a top 2 player on the planet is also getting attention every possession. At no point does Bynum take over a game for LA. It never happens. Even when opposing teams key on Kobe and Gasol, you don't see Bynum putting up dominating center performances. What happens when he goes to Toronto and he's playing with a lesser roster and a worse coach?

I have no faith that Bynum is worth half of his contract. For a small market team like Toronto, I look for better deals.

lol, Gasol was brought in to be the #1 post option.

njnets
05-21-2010, 05:44 PM
maybe he doesn't want to live in New Jersey.

good point, never thought of that. they are moving to brooklyn though. not exactly a small city lol. like i said before though, hes ruled them out so the nets have to accept it and move "on to the next one" haha

USMCLaker
05-21-2010, 05:45 PM
Well duh. I know that. If the other GM's in the league can be patient for a couple years, this entire league will be wide open. That was the case a few years ago when Dallas and Miami were in the Finals and a small market team was winning based on the draft (San Antonio).

But what screwed up the NBA (unless you are a fan of 2 of the 30 teams) for balanced play was the impatient Sonics, Grizzlies and Wolves. They gave away elite talent only to produce the same crap. If they would have been patient, you never know how good Mayo, Gay and Pau could be now. Or Ray Allen and Durant. Or KG and Love.

Well, duh.

But as MarkG points out that's just bad business why pay more when you can make the same for less. Again, that comes back to the owners. If Buss isn't willing to pay Phil and Phil walks how will that effect the Lakers, that's yet to be determined but it comes back down to ownership.

People are always blaming the league saying that it's fixed and if that's the case then we would be seeing the Kobe vs LBJ finals match up. I know you're not saying that but I'm just saying teams got to look at their owners a little more.

ink
05-21-2010, 05:45 PM
Toronto would be better served trying 3 team deals that involve moving Bosh and Beasley or Bosh and Eddy Curry's expiring.

For North Yorker and Draco ...

Draco
05-21-2010, 05:46 PM
lol, Gasol was brought in to be the #1 post option.

Either way, Bynum hasn't lived up to expectations. Right now people are questioning how long Bynum has in the league considering his injuries.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:47 PM
For North Yorker and Draco ...

You would really want Beasley next to Bargania?

kblo247
05-21-2010, 05:47 PM
Bynum was supposed to be a stud by now. Gasol was brought in to compliment Bynum when really Gasol has carried the post in LA since he's been there. Playing next to Gasol would give most any center 15 points, 8 rebounds and and 1.5 blocks a game. And don't forget that a top 2 player on the planet is also getting attention every possession. At no point does Bynum take over a game for LA. It never happens. Even when opposing teams key on Kobe and Gasol, you don't see Bynum putting up dominating center performances. What happens when he goes to Toronto and he's playing with a lesser roster and a worse coach?

I have no faith that Bynum is worth half of his contract. For a small market team like Toronto, I look for better deals.

You do know that when Pau didn't play this year there were only two bigs in the league to average 20 and 10 in Bosh and Bynum right?

Pau was always brought in to be the second option and if you don't believe that you don't know basketball, the Lakers, or Kobe who is on record of saying (Pau eats first and before all bigs)

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 05:47 PM
Bynum was supposed to be a stud by now. Gasol was brought in to compliment Bynum when really Gasol has carried the post in LA since he's been there. Playing next to Gasol would give most any center 15 points, 8 rebounds and and 1.5 blocks a game. And don't forget that a top 2 player on the planet is also getting attention every possession. At no point does Bynum take over a game for LA. It never happens. Even when opposing teams key on Kobe and Gasol, you don't see Bynum putting up dominating center performances. What happens when he goes to Toronto and he's playing with a lesser roster and a worse coach?

I have no faith that Bynum is worth half of his contract. For a small market team like Toronto, I look for better deals.



If anything it took away from the number of touches he got a game he averaged 10 shots a game and only 30 minutes and managed to put up 15/8 a night pretty impressive.


If he goes to a team where he can be a 1st/2nd option I expect his numbers to go up just like anyone who would get more touches.

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:47 PM
lol, Gasol was brought in to be the #1 post option.

When Gasol was brought in, it was the expectation that the post in LA would be a two headed monster by now. At first Gasol was supposed to be the man, but Bynum was supposed to keep getting better. Its three years later now and Gasol is still the all star next to Bynum's project. Gasol has impressed in LA, and Bynum has disappointed. You wouldn't be shopping him if he hasn't.

If I'm Toronto, I look for a cheaper and safer alternative.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:48 PM
Either way, Bynum hasn't lived up to expectations. Right now people are questioning how long Bynum has in the league considering his injuries.

But, he still has trade value because he is 22 and has a friendly contract.

kblo247
05-21-2010, 05:48 PM
Either way, Bynum hasn't lived up to expectations. Right now people are questioning how long Bynum has in the league considering his injuries.

And Deng has? He has his share of injuries. He has missed the playoffs because he was hurt. He has never averaged 20 points. His contract is worse. Oh and they paid Hedo 50mil to be the starting SF.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:49 PM
When Gasol was brought in, it was the expectation that the post in LA would be a two headed monster by now. At first Gasol was supposed to be the man, but Bynum was supposed to keep getting better. Its three years later now and Gasol is still the all star next to Bynum's project. Gasol has impressed in LA, and Bynum has disappointed. You wouldn't be shopping him if he hasn't.

If I'm Toronto, I look for a cheaper and safer alternative.

Give me a link to where you are reading this false info from.

ink
05-21-2010, 05:49 PM
Either way, Bynum hasn't lived up to expectations. Right now people are questioning how long Bynum has in the league considering his injuries.

Unfortunately true. We have to separate issues here. Bynum is obviously talented and would be a huge asset. But his injuries are holding him back. No team in their right mind would trade the franchise player (even if he is going to walk anyway) for a guy on the IR. Ask Portland or Houston how they liked having their big man on the IR.

Southsideheat
05-21-2010, 05:49 PM
more touches = more chances to get injured.

ink
05-21-2010, 05:50 PM
Give me a link to where you are reading this false info from.

This is off-topic. Let's get back to Bosh's wishlist.

Draco
05-21-2010, 05:50 PM
But, he still has trade value because he is 22 and has a friendly contract.

That contract goes up as high $16 mil for a player who might play little more than half of that season.

SluggeR
05-21-2010, 05:51 PM
I think Bosh is ready to take on a major market. You know he wants some spotlight, look at his internet antics over the years...just crying out for attention.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:51 PM
This is off-topic. Let's get back to Bosh's wishlist.

But the Lakers and Miami are on the list and if traded to one of those teams Beasly or Bynum would be coming back.

ink
05-21-2010, 05:52 PM
You would really want Beasley next to Bargania?

Did you read what I quoted? lol. Three team S&T. Raps pick up Beasley and flip him for the player they want.

ink
05-21-2010, 05:52 PM
But the Lakers and Miami are on the list and if traded to one of those teams Beasly or Bynum would be coming back.

Not in a three team deal they wouldn't. That's the only way deals with any of those five teams would work for the Raptors.

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 05:52 PM
For North Yorker and Draco ...

Actually I think that would end up helping more the team that ends up getting Bosh rather than TO. If Chi could get rid of Deng's contract they could have a FA field day and get one of JJ/Wade/Lebron to go along with Bosh. Same with NY and Curry's expiring and Lee's cap hold.

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:53 PM
Give me a link to where you are reading this false info from.

Are you serious? LA traded for Gasol to create a top notch post tandem with Bynum. Gasol was supposed to be the man in the post for the first couple years, but Bynum was supposed to continue to improve to become the Lakers big man of the next decade with Gasol also being there the first few years. That's why LA paid him that monster contract. That was on potential alone.

Gasol was a 5 year plan. Bynum was supposed to be the rock of the team years after Kobe dwindled. If you don't think that was the Laker plan, then you don't know your own team.

kblo247
05-21-2010, 05:53 PM
Unfortunately true. We have to separate issues here. Bynum is obviously talented and would be a huge asset. But his injuries are holding him back. No team in their right mind would trade the franchise player (even if he is going to walk anyway) for a guy on the IR. Ask Portland or Houston how they liked having their big man on the IR.

Did that stop Camby or Dice from being taken is all that I will ask you?

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:53 PM
That contract goes up as high $16 mil for a player who might play little more than half of that season.

And the team can void it before that year if he isn't what they expected him to be and he will still only be 24 or 25 at that time.

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 05:54 PM
Unfortunately true. We have to separate issues here. Bynum is obviously talented and would be a huge asset. But his injuries are holding him back. No team in their right mind would trade the franchise player (even if he is going to walk anyway) for a guy on the IR. Ask Portland or Houston how they liked having their big man on the IR.

Really? last time I checked Bynum played the last game and had 13/7 and went 5 for 5 and did this all in 18 minutes....


But like you said he is on the IR right?

nearyG
05-21-2010, 05:54 PM
TOR-CHI

To Bulls: S&T PF Chris Bosh, SF Hedo Turkoglu
To Raptors: SF Luol Deng, C Joakim Noah, CHI 2010 1st Round Pick (17th Overall)

or...

To Lakers: S&T PF Chris Bosh, PG Jose Calderon
To Raptors: C Andrew Bynum, SF Ron Artest, LAL 2011 1st Round Pick

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 05:55 PM
Fact is Bynum will be attractive to the Raptors he is a top Center in this league.



Deng isn't a top SF in this league.....hmm top C or average SF? Thats a tough one if I were Toronto.

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 05:55 PM
Did you read what I quoted? lol. Three team S&T. Raps pick up Beasley and flip him for the player they want.

Beasley's value is at a all time low right now, this wouldnt be a smart move imo. Teams would know we are looking to move him and there prolly wouldnt be enough interest in him to start a bidding war.

ldc62
05-21-2010, 05:56 PM
As a Raptors fan, I also thought about this: Do the Raps really wanna put him on a team with Lebron? That team will dominate/be at the top for the next 10 years (especially with Rose and Noah). That basically means every team in the East is screwed. If the Bulls sign Lebron, then we should trade Bosh to the west or just let him walk (that way he can't straight-up sign with the Bulls).

ink
05-21-2010, 05:56 PM
Really? last time I checked Bynum played the last game and had 13/7 and went 5 for 5 and did this all in 18 minutes....


But like you said he is on the IR right?

Talk about short term view.

And nobody is debating Bynum's abilities.

kblo247
05-21-2010, 05:56 PM
TOR-CHI

To Bulls: S&T PF Chris Bosh, SF Hedo Turkoglu
To Raptors: SF Luol Deng, C Joakim Noah, CHI 2010 1st Round Pick (17th Overall)

or...

To Lakers: PF Chris Bosh, PG Jose Calderon
To Raptors: C Andrew Bynum, SF Ron Artest, LAL 2011 1st Round Pick

Artest is going nowhere, Odom is going nowhere, Pau is going nowhere, Kobe is going nowhere, and Fisher is going nowhere so you can get it out your head.

Sasha is an expiring, Farmar is restricted, and Shannon gets to choose if he is traded because of the deal he signed like Nate Robinson.

ldc62
05-21-2010, 05:57 PM
TOR-CHI

To Bulls: S&T PF Chris Bosh, SF Hedo Turkoglu
To Raptors: SF Luol Deng, C Joakim Noah, CHI 2010 1st Round Pick (17th Overall)

or...

To Lakers: PF Chris Bosh, PG Jose Calderon
To Raptors: C Andrew Bynum, SF Ron Artest, LAL 2011 1st Round Pick

Scratch what I said about the not wanting Bosh and Lebron to team up.... I'd take this deal in a heartbeat.

ink
05-21-2010, 05:58 PM
As a Raptors fan, I also thought about this: Do the Raps really wanna put him on a team with Lebron? That team will dominate/be at the top for the next 10 years (especially with Rose and Noah). That basically means every team in the East is screwed. If the Bulls sign Lebron, then we should trade Bosh to the west or just let him walk (that way he can't straight-up sign with the Bulls).

Unfortunately Bosh has the say in where he goes.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 05:58 PM
Wait... are you seriously saying that the Lakers DIDN'T expect Bynum to improve?

What team DOESN'T expect their young players to improve? :eyebrow:

They expected him to improve, but not be the main post option over Gasol.

Lo Porto
05-21-2010, 05:58 PM
Bosh would be best suited for Miami. Neither Shaq nor Wade had a problem with sharing the limelight when they won the title. Shaq had issues later, but that's Shaq. Toronto and Miami could use Beasley to get a third team involved. There are plenty of teams out there who would give Beasley another chance.

One option is...

Bosh goes to Miami, Beasley goes to GS and Biedrins goes to Toronto. Toronto gets a C that adds to their horrid defense. Biedrins is on an affordable contract for a C almost as old as Bynum. GS gets a PF that would excel in their system. I bet that Toronto could even get a pick out of GS in this deal.

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 05:59 PM
Talk about short term view.

And nobody is debating Bynum's abilities.


Well you said a guy on the IR and he simply put isn't on IR.



Plus people got to realize a Bynum for Bosh swap gets him out of the East....I dont see any better trades unless Bosh walks I dont see a better one.

ldc62
05-21-2010, 05:59 PM
A team of Lebron, Rose and Bosh would be a nightmare for every team in the East. Good luck to Mikhail Prokhorov and his 5 years maximum to win a championship. They won't even make it to the finals.

fishfan79
05-21-2010, 06:00 PM
miami for beasley, cook, jones and their pick back :)

ink
05-21-2010, 06:00 PM
One option is...

Bosh goes to Miami, Beasley goes to GS and Biedrins goes to Toronto. Toronto gets a C that adds to their horrid defense. Biedrins is on an affordable contract for a C almost as old as Bynum. GS gets a PF that would excel in their system. I bet that Toronto could even get a pick out of GS in this deal.

Good example. And that would be a very good return on a S&T.

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 06:00 PM
Unfortunately Bosh has the say in where he goes.

But TO has the say as whether he gets the max or not.

It can either be a lose-lose, where Bosh signs with a team outright, and we get nothing, or a win-win, where Bosh gives us a list of teams he is happy to go to, a bidding war happens, we get the best deal, Bosh gets the max.

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 06:00 PM
A team of Lebron, Rose and Bosh would be a nightmare for every team in the East. Good luck to Mikhail Prokhorov and his 5 years maximum to win a championship. They won't even make it to the finals.


Yeah Bosh and Lebron would be a good team all they would need would be a PG and they'd be set.

ldc62
05-21-2010, 06:01 PM
Bosh would be best suited for Miami. Neither Shaq nor Wade had a problem with sharing the limelight when they won the title. Shaq had issues later, but that's Shaq. Toronto and Miami could use Beasley to get a third team involved. There are plenty of teams out there who would give Beasley another chance.

One option is...

Bosh goes to Miami, Beasley goes to GS and Biedrins goes to Toronto. Toronto gets a C that adds to their horrid defense. Biedrins is on an affordable contract for a C almost as old as Bynum. GS gets a PF that would excel in their system. I bet that Toronto could even get a pick out of GS in this deal.

I like that deal actually. Wade has a good 5 years left. Also I don't think Bosh has a problem with sharing the limelight and nowhere near the ego of Shaq. Bosh does like attention, but which athlete doesn't?

ink
05-21-2010, 06:02 PM
Well you said a guy on the IR and he simply put isn't on IR.



Plus people got to realize a Bynum for Bosh swap gets him out of the East....I dont see any better trades unless Bosh walks I dont see a better one.

You don't see any better trades because you want Bosh. lol. Colangelo would be finished in the NBA if he traded for an injury prone player for A THIRD TIME. That would be the ultimate in asset squandering.

It's common knowledge doctors discovered a tear in Bynum's right meniscus during the first round. The most recent article about it was on May 19. In February he had an Achilles tendon problem. Talent: excellent. Health: mmm, not so good. lol.

ldc62
05-21-2010, 06:02 PM
Yeah Bosh and Lebron would be a good team all they would need would be a PG and they'd be set.

oooo Bulls' fans are gonna eat u alive.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 06:02 PM
Bosh would be best suited for Miami. Neither Shaq nor Wade had a problem with sharing the limelight when they won the title. Shaq had issues later, but that's Shaq. Toronto and Miami could use Beasley to get a third team involved. There are plenty of teams out there who would give Beasley another chance.

One option is...

Bosh goes to Miami, Beasley goes to GS and Biedrins goes to Toronto. Toronto gets a C that adds to their horrid defense. Biedrins is on an affordable contract for a C almost as old as Bynum. GS gets a PF that would excel in their system. I bet that Toronto could even get a pick out of GS in this deal.

lol, he makes 9 million a year for the next 5 years and has been injured as much, if not more than Bynum. Atleast they can void Bynums contract in 2 years if he doesn't work out.

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 06:03 PM
Good example. And that would be a very good return on a S&T.

Really Biedrins is on the IR and that would be good return?? Wow but Bynum is too "injury prone"?? Really?

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 06:04 PM
oooo Bulls' fans are gonna eat u alive.

I know... lol :hide:

dtmagnet
05-21-2010, 06:04 PM
Unfortunately Bosh has the say in where he goes.

But if Lebron is in Chicago, and Bosh says "Sign and trade me to Chicago." We can say, "Sorry Chris we're not going to do that." Then he can either sign somewhere else, sign and trade somewhere else, or take the minimum with Chicago if he really wants to go there. If Lebron goes to Chicago it would be smart to not make Chicago into the most dominant team in the league.

ldc62
05-21-2010, 06:04 PM
lol, he makes 9 million a year for the next 5 years and has been injured as much, if not more than Bynum. Atleast they can void Bynums contract in 2 years if he doesn't work out.

I like Bynum, but I rather have Beidrins. He fits our some-what high tempo offense more. Of course, that means one of the better shooting FT teams (not really last year but...) in the leaugue falls.

Jonathan2323
05-21-2010, 06:04 PM
Chicago will not get LeBron and Bosh. Cavs or Raptors will not take back Deng.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-21-2010, 06:05 PM
Bosh would be best suited for Miami. Neither Shaq nor Wade had a problem with sharing the limelight when they won the title. Shaq had issues later, but that's Shaq. Toronto and Miami could use Beasley to get a third team involved. There are plenty of teams out there who would give Beasley another chance.

One option is...

Bosh goes to Miami, Beasley goes to GS and Biedrins goes to Toronto. Toronto gets a C that adds to their horrid defense. Biedrins is on an affordable contract for a C almost as old as Bynum. GS gets a PF that would excel in their system. I bet that Toronto could even get a pick out of GS in this deal.

biedrins contract is horrible and he's injured after every 5 minutes

DCB/LAL
05-21-2010, 06:05 PM
What about the Knicks what do you think they would be willing to give up?

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 06:05 PM
I like Bynum, but I rather have Beidrins. He fits our some-what high tempo offense more. Of course, that means one of the better shooting FT teams (not really last year but...) in the leaugue falls.

Thats cool, if that is what Raptor fans want, they have to do what is best for the franchise.

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 06:06 PM
Good example. And that would be a very good return on a S&T.

Its ironic you say that when he's on IR right now...

ink
05-21-2010, 06:07 PM
But if Lebron is in Chicago, and Bosh says "Sign and trade me to Chicago." We can say, "Sorry Chris we're not going to do that." Then he can either sign somewhere else, sign and trade somewhere else, or take the minimum with Chicago if he really wants to go there. If Lebron goes to Chicago it would be smart to not make Chicago into the most dominant team in the league.

It all comes down to negotiation.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-21-2010, 06:08 PM
What about the Knicks what do you think they would be willing to give up?

eddy

kArSoN RyDaH
05-21-2010, 06:11 PM
bosh to the lakers? idk i wont be mad if we trade bynum or gasol for him but i sure as hell wont be happy..hmm we'll wait till lakers win their 2nd ship for a repeat..

ldc62
05-21-2010, 06:13 PM
Thats cool, if that is what Raptor fans want, they have to do what is best for the franchise.

again... what would I know. I thought we were going to get at least the 5th seed before the season began because I thought hedo was good.

rhino17
05-21-2010, 06:13 PM
unfortunately for Bosh, none of the teams he listed have anything to offer Toronto in a sign and trade

RaptorizedKevin
05-21-2010, 06:16 PM
if bosh wants to be a laker, id be fine taking bynum and some expirings as long as hte lakers take Turkoglu.

If bosh wants to go on the bulls nad be a follower with lebron if he also go there too, then the bull better sign and trade noah and deng.

i dont want david lee, i rather rebuild properly.
i dont want beasly LOL

so i rather see bosh in Chicago or in LA.

Or stay in toronto.

RaptorizedKevin
05-21-2010, 06:17 PM
dareyl morrey can stop smiling cuss bosh doesnt wanna be a houston rocket :]

RaptorizedKevin
05-21-2010, 06:18 PM
eddy

wtf? i rather let bosh walk for nothing.

Gibby23
05-21-2010, 06:18 PM
again... what would I know. I thought we were going to get at least the 5th seed before the season began because I thought hedo was good.

Another thing is that the Lakers may be the only team willing to take the contract of Jose by throwing the expiring of Sasha and another expiring in the deal.

RaptorizedKevin
05-21-2010, 06:19 PM
Another thing is that the Lakers may be the only team willing to take the contract of Jose by throwing the expiring of Sasha and another expiring in the deal.

Take TUrkoglu, i rather keep jose. i have a feeling since the lakers dont have PG deph calderon will shine with the lakers and be efficent and be dropping dimes. so i rather give u guys **** turkoglu.

rhino17
05-21-2010, 06:21 PM
dareyl morrey can stop smiling cuss bosh doesnt wanna be a houston rocket :]

I don't really want him as a Rocket, but Toronto is not gonna get a better offer than Jordan Hill, Sergio Lull, Knicks 2011 1st round pick, Knicks 2012 1st round pick, Jared Jeffries, Shane Battier, and other expiring cap fillers.

They get 2 guys with tons of potential, 2 very high draft picks if the knicks sucks ***, and a boat load of expiring contracts that could even take Hedo off their hands.

RaptorizedKevin
05-21-2010, 06:22 PM
I don't really want him as a Rocket, but Toronto is not gonna get a better offer than Jordan Hill, Sergio Lull, Knicks 2011 1st round pick, Knicks 2012 1st round pick, Jared Jeffries, Shane Battier, and other expiring cap fillers.

They get 2 guys with tons of potential, 2 very high draft picks if the knicks sucks ***, and a boat load of expiring contracts that could even take Hedo off their hands.

the expirins are great, i'll tell yu that. other than that, meh.

smith&wesson
05-21-2010, 06:24 PM
Bynum, Farmar, and Sasha for Bosh and Jack.

id rather let him sign with you guys for nothing. bynams mr glass. sasha and farmer no comment. just keep them.

smith&wesson
05-21-2010, 06:27 PM
toronto is on the list. BC still has time to pull some magic. you never know we can get a big name and bosh decides to stay!!

RaptorizedKevin
05-21-2010, 06:28 PM
bryan colnagelo can get a player whos not a natural point ( more of a SG) to fit well in the system in toronto so turkoglu can get some ball, and the raptors would play better. someone like ellis coudl be good in that kind of system dunno.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-21-2010, 06:31 PM
bryan colnagelo can get a player whos not a natural point ( more of a SG) to fit well in the system in toronto so turkoglu can get some ball, and the raptors would play better. someone like ellis coudl be good in that kind of system dunno.

raps would suck even more with ellis

blah-blah
05-21-2010, 06:33 PM
i hope bc gets a good player like iggy so bosh decides to stay but unlikely hes interested in injury prone overrated players

MYBULLS
05-21-2010, 06:33 PM
Chicago will not get LeBron and Bosh. Cavs or Raptors will not take back Deng.

Chicago gets: Chris Bosh
Toronto gets: Al Jefferson
Minnesota gets: Luol Deng

3-ways are possible you know. And yes, Minny has discussed trading Jefferson for Deng. Their draft position makes Jefferson more expendable (Cousins). Bulls still can get LBJ and Bosh via S&T - TOR wants a big man.

_KB24_
05-21-2010, 06:39 PM
If he comes to LA, he should already know that he is going to be the 3rd option. I don't want him to come here and moan and groan about not getting the ball, because his numbers are drastically going to drop.

blah-blah
05-21-2010, 06:39 PM
Chicago gets: Chris Bosh
Toronto gets: Al Jefferson
Minnesota gets: Luol Deng

3-ways are possible you know. And yes, Minny has discussed trading Jefferson for Deng. Their draft position makes Jefferson more expendable (Cousins). Bulls still can get LBJ and Bosh via S&T - TOR wants a big man.

why would the timberwolves want deng..

_KB24_
05-21-2010, 06:41 PM
As for the Raptors, you guys would benefit from receiving a big time scorer who demands the ball. I would say getting Monta or even Iverson for cheap would be great for you guys to re-sign Bosh.

PG: Jack/Calderon
SG: Iverson/DDR
SF: Turk/Weems
PF: Bosh/Evans
C: Andrea/Amir

blah-blah
05-21-2010, 06:44 PM
As for the Raptors, you guys would benefit from receiving a big time scorer who demands the ball. I would say getting Monta or even Iverson for cheap would be great for you guys to re-sign Bosh.

PG: Jack/Calderon
SG: Iverson/DDR
SF: Turk/Weems
PF: Bosh/Evans
C: Andrea/Amir

iversons done and the problem isnt scoring the problem is defense and the only way i see bosh staying is if we get either a slasher (iguodala) or an elite pg (paul,parker)

Draco
05-21-2010, 06:47 PM
why would the timberwolves want deng..

Because they're weak at the SF position.

pebloemer
05-21-2010, 06:48 PM
dareyl morrey can stop smiling cuss bosh doesnt wanna be a houston rocket :]

I thought it would have been a nice trading partner personally. Too bad Bosh isn't interested in going there.

pebloemer
05-21-2010, 06:50 PM
Because they're weak at the SF position.

A big contract like that though for a rebuilding team? Seems like Jefferson is much better value and younger. I'm sure they could get much more for Jefferson.

joe j.09
05-21-2010, 06:52 PM
no one wants dengs CONTRACT lol

Ezekial
05-21-2010, 06:55 PM
So your saying Noah,Deng,Rose>Wade,Beasley,9 mil extra cap space

ok

Why do Miami fans think everyone's going to Miami, I mean I don't think D-Wade will leave but there's a chance he could, right?

RaptorizedKevin
05-21-2010, 06:57 PM
Why do Miami fans think everyone's going to Miami, I mean I don't think D-Wade will leave but there's a chance he could, right?

your statement could be said the same about bulls fans. theres a chance no one could go to chicago too right?

MYBULLS
05-21-2010, 07:04 PM
A big contract like that though for a rebuilding team? Seems like Jefferson is much better value and younger. I'm sure they could get much more for Jefferson.

17.6/7.3/2 at 46.6% FG is good value. Deng is only 25...same age as Jefferson. Their season stats are pretty comparable actually.

Draco
05-21-2010, 07:05 PM
A big contract like that though for a rebuilding team? Seems like Jefferson is much better value and younger. I'm sure they could get much more for Jefferson.

It's not an uncommonly big contract, it doesn't hurt their payroll if they're trading Jefferson, and rebuilding teams are interested in young talent.. that's the whole point of rebuilding.

ryder78c
05-21-2010, 07:11 PM
Lakers gonna be all over it they should trade bynum Farmar and somebody for jarrett Jack And Bosh without trading odom unless derozan's involved

Bosh
Gasol
Artest
Kobe
Jack
Odom

CP3 The Great
05-21-2010, 07:13 PM
It still doesn't mean the Raptors have to accept Deng in a S&T, and if they don't do a S&T and the Bulls sign Lebron, they wont have money for Bosh.

talk on the lakers. if the bulls sign and trade lebron like they will because its were he wants to be, chris bosh will do anything to be w/ him and drose and win 5 rings. heres the thing. when lebrons sign and trade happens chicago gets rid of luol deng and kirk hinrichs ridiculous salaries. them two for a good shooter, and theres no reason to call it the nba anymore the bulls are running away with it. theyd beat everyteam you think of. (including LA) kobes reaching the peak :] hahaha

Kakaroach
05-21-2010, 07:13 PM
I don't think the Lakers would be willing to give up Bynum for Bosh. All the other teams have got a chance though.

pebloemer
05-21-2010, 07:15 PM
17.6/7.3/2 at 46.6% FG is good value. Deng is only 25...same age as Jefferson. Their season stats are pretty comparable actually.


It's not an uncommonly big contract, it doesn't hurt their payroll if they're trading Jefferson, and rebuilding teams are interested in young talent.. that's the whole point of rebuilding.

Deng is younger than I thought. I stand corrected. Feels like he should be older :).

ryder78c
05-21-2010, 07:16 PM
iversons done and the problem isnt scoring the problem is defense and the only way i see bosh staying is if we get either a slasher (iguodala) or an elite pg (paul,parker)

who told you iverson's done he scored more then the raptors starting SG...just because he gambles and drinks dont mean he's done! did you know MJ was a huge gambler thats why his wife divorced him....did you know rasheed drank alot during the pistons championship seasons

North Yorker
05-21-2010, 07:19 PM
who told you iverson's done he scored more then the raptors starting SG...just because he gambles and drinks dont mean he's done! did you know MJ was a huge gambler thats why his wife divorced him....did you know rasheed drank alot during the pistons championship seasons

The raps dont need another ball handler that plays no defence.

magikmc
05-21-2010, 07:24 PM
I think a 3 way trade is a good possibility to happen.

For you New York fans, this is how i could see you acquiring him...

New York Gets:
Chris Bosh
Turkoglu

Toronto Gets:
Iggy
Chandler
David Lee

Philly Gets:
Curry
Pick 13

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE!

Ray_R
05-21-2010, 07:24 PM
Expected everyone but the lakers. Pau for Bosh

kblo247
05-21-2010, 07:27 PM
Expected everyone but the lakers. Pau for Bosh

Put the god damn bong down and don't smoke anymore **** that is that strong again

oak2455
05-21-2010, 07:28 PM
I think a 3 way trade is a good possibility to happen.

For you New York fans, this is how i could see you acquiring him...

New York Gets:
Chris Bosh
Turkoglu

Toronto Gets:
Iggy
Chandler
David Lee

Philly Gets:
Curry
Pick 13

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE!
Send that to David Stern please:clap:

Kakaroach
05-21-2010, 07:31 PM
The agent for Chris Bosh said Friday that there is no list of teams his client would except a sign-and-trade to.

Reports surfaced earlier today that Bosh had narrowed it down to five prospective teams (Bulls, Lakers, Heat, Knicks, Raptors), and we wouldn't be surprised if those are the five teams Bosh is considering. "I haven't closed the door on anything," Thomas said. "I haven't given Bryan any lists. There is no list. This is a process that is ongoing." http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-chris-bosh-s052110,0,4558949.story?track=rss

Draco
05-21-2010, 07:33 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-chris-bosh-s052110,0,4558949.story?track=rss

Back to square 1. ;)

magikmc
05-21-2010, 07:33 PM
Send that to David Stern please:clap:

haha i really didn't put that much thought into it.. was just thinking of something quick. Are you a knick fan??

The raptors wouldn't be in too rough shape after the deal... they would still have a few expiring contracts, and calderon or jack to move.

heatking
05-21-2010, 07:39 PM
lol @ laker fans... YOUR ON YOUR WAY TO WINNING A TITLE! Why would you want to mess with your team.

oak2455
05-21-2010, 07:54 PM
haha i really didn't put that much thought into it.. was just thinking of something quick. Are you a knick fan??

The raptors wouldn't be in too rough shape after the deal... they would still have a few expiring contracts, and calderon or jack to move.

Unfortunately yes.......would love to get Bosh and Lebron wishful thinking:D

The Final Boss
05-21-2010, 08:00 PM
Bosh found this list on Lebron's coffee table and crossed Lebron's names off and put his...

clutchski
05-21-2010, 08:03 PM
Bosh found this list on Lebron's coffee table and crossed Lebron's names off and put his...

So you're saying Lebron would consider Toronto? :eyebrow:

Kuttah
05-21-2010, 08:04 PM
diehard laker fan, and toronto native....... i would NEVER do a Bynum for Bosh trade if I was LA....... NEVER! Bosh is much weaker then Bynum, and although Bynum is injury prone, have you seen the knee brace Bosh wears?? Bynum (when healthy) plays his role perfectly in the triangle and on defence. He's much longer then Bosh, and a much better defender. If BC can get Bynum for Bosh, it would be a coup........ and the Raptors could finally have a traditional center who clogs up the lane, something they desperately need.

The Final Boss
05-21-2010, 08:07 PM
So you're saying Lebron would consider Toronto? :eyebrow:

Not even Toronto would consider Toronto.

clutchski
05-21-2010, 08:09 PM
Not even Toronto would consider Toronto.

make sense please

The Final Boss
05-21-2010, 08:10 PM
Expected everyone but the lakers. Pau for Bosh

lol Trade away the best all around big man in the game?

The Final Boss
05-21-2010, 08:13 PM
make sense please

I will when I see your sentence structure improves.

RaiderLakersA's
05-21-2010, 08:14 PM
Can we close this now?

jeter 2
05-21-2010, 08:16 PM
I think a 3 way trade is a good possibility to happen.

For you New York fans, this is how i could see you acquiring him...

New York Gets:
Chris Bosh
Turkoglu

Toronto Gets:
Iggy
Chandler
David Lee

Philly Gets:
Curry
Pick 13

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE!

Well rumors are that Elton Brand has to be included in the deal. This is a trade that I came up with. What do Raptors and Sixers fans think?

Toronto Gets:
Elton Brand
#2 pick

New York Gets:
Chris Bosh

Philly Gets:
Wilson Chandler
Eddy Curry
*if necessary, the Raptors 2010 pick

The only 2 questions is that enough talent for Philly, but they are saving 3 million this year and will be well under the cap next year. There is also a question whether Toronto would take on Brand's contract along with the #2 pick, but the combination of Brand and Turner may be better than anything they could acquire through free agency and maybe it could even beat the Lakers potential offer of Andrew Bynum. Thirdly, would Chris Bosh agree to a sign and trade before free agency even starts?

Kuttah
05-21-2010, 08:18 PM
also, to all those who think Bosh and Lebron would go to the Bulls........ consider this. If BC does a S&T with Chicago for whoever, and Lebron signs outright with Chicago (as apparently this is a bargaining chip Cleveland has, that they r the only team that can pay him the max), would Lebron's fat ego allow him to be the second highest paid player on the team??? I think not........ Unless both Cleveland and Toronto can do a S&T that nets them both players they want (which would completely deplete Chicago's roster), it ain't happening........

Draco
05-21-2010, 08:22 PM
also, to all those who think Bosh and Lebron would go to the Bulls........ consider this. If BC does a S&T with Chicago for whoever, and Lebron signs outright with Chicago (as apparently this is a bargaining chip Cleveland has, that they r the only team that can pay him the max), would Lebron's fat ego allow him to be the second highest paid player on the team??? I think not........ Unless both Cleveland and Toronto can do a S&T that nets them both players they want (which would completely deplete Chicago's roster), it ain't happening........

Probably not.. so I think it might work better the other way around. S&T for Lebron, outright sign Bosh.

Kuttah
05-21-2010, 08:23 PM
Probably not.. so I think it might work better the other way around. S&T for Lebron, outright sign Bosh.

do you really think Bosh would leave 30 mil on the table??? I doubt it....

td0tsfinest
05-21-2010, 08:24 PM
why does it say pg 16 but last page is only 13.

even if the list is refuted, it's a sensible list with the obvious candidates.

Draco
05-21-2010, 08:25 PM
do you really think Bosh would leave 30 mil on the table??? I doubt it....

Maybe? If it was all about the money he'd re-sign with the Raptors. Anyone know if it's possible for the Bulls to do 2 S&T's?

Kuttah
05-21-2010, 08:27 PM
Maybe? If it was all about the money he'd re-sign with the Raptors. Anyone know if it's possible for the Bulls to do 2 S&T's?

its always all about the money....... but he also wants out of TO. So S&T works for Bosh on both fronts.......

Draco
05-21-2010, 08:30 PM
its always all about the money....... but he also wants out of TO. So S&T works for Bosh on both fronts.......

We'll find out.

smith&wesson
05-21-2010, 08:31 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-chris-bosh-s052110,0,4558949.story?track=rss


Thanks kaka. now we know this is bs and the lakers can keep there one legged bynam