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kArSoN RyDaH
05-13-2010, 11:03 PM
( 2 ) Orlando Magic (59-23) vs. ( 4 ) Boston Celtics (50-32)


Orlando Magic will have the Homecourt Advantage


Boston Leads Series 3-2 Series Breakdown



http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/KHinrich12/Team%20Logos/Magic.png Projected Starting Lineup

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PG - Jameer Nelson
SG - Vince Carter
SF - Matt Barnes
PF - Rashard Lewis
C - Dwight Howard



http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/KHinrich12/Team%20Logos/Celtics.png Projected Starting Lineup

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PG - Rajon Rondo
SG - Ray Allen
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Kendrick Perkins



Who will win this ECF in 7?




http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2010/matchup/_/teams/celtics-magic

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/playoffs/conferencefinals/bosorl;_ylt=AqOqwJnIDokkz9I7vErmlL.8vLYF

IndiansFan337
05-13-2010, 11:06 PM
ORL in 6.

hugepatsfan
05-13-2010, 11:07 PM
ORL in 7 (I can't see BOS being eliminated at home and 5 games is too short, IMO).

sNaKeS
05-13-2010, 11:08 PM
Magic in 5. Win the first 2 at home, lose game 3, win games 4 and 5.

RadiantShot
05-13-2010, 11:10 PM
Underestimated Boston.

;)

SF25
05-13-2010, 11:10 PM
I'm going with Orlando in 6.

GO MAGIC!

m26555
05-13-2010, 11:11 PM
I'll go Celtics in six.

SA5195
05-13-2010, 11:11 PM
ORL in 5 or 6.

TheKing23
05-13-2010, 11:13 PM
I got Magic in 6.

Good luck to both teams, should be a good matchup.

Mc Lovin
05-13-2010, 11:15 PM
Call me crazy, but I'm going for either a clean sweep, or 6 games.

The Magic are not going to sweep the Celtics. If anyone is getting swept it's going to be Orlando. I'm picking Boston in 6 and I don't think it's going to even be close similar to the Cavs series. Celtics defense is too strong and Rondo can't be stopped by anyone on the Magic roster.

goku
05-13-2010, 11:15 PM
celtics in 6 or 7

goku
05-13-2010, 11:16 PM
rondo > nelson

marvILLous
05-13-2010, 11:16 PM
Celtics in 7!

SteveNash
05-13-2010, 11:17 PM
Call me crazy, but I'm going for either a clean sweep, or 6 games.

Sounds about right.

You're talking about Boston right?

RocketsRule
05-13-2010, 11:17 PM
ORL in 6.

The level the Magic has been playing in the playoffs is phenomenal. I don't see them losing.

sNaKeS
05-13-2010, 11:17 PM
The Magic are not going to sweep the Celtics. If anyone is getting swept it's going to be Orlando. I'm picking Boston in 6 and I don't think it's going to even be close similar to the Cavs series. Celtics defense is too strong and Rondo can't be stopped by anyone on the Magic roster.

Yea he can, his name is dwight howard and his little drives into the lane will be met by the reigning defensive player of the year. Your little team beat the PLAYER last series, get ready for a TEAM next series.

jdmd3
05-13-2010, 11:18 PM
Orlando in a hard fought series going 7 games.

clutchski
05-13-2010, 11:18 PM
Orlando in 5 or 6

sNaKeS
05-13-2010, 11:19 PM
Sounds about right.

You're talking about Boston right?

ECF starts on sunday, get ready to change that sig *****

JordansBulls
05-13-2010, 11:19 PM
I think this is a toss up, but I'm going with ORL in 7.

Orlando has no excuses now not to win the title. They have HCA throughout now.

SteveNash
05-13-2010, 11:19 PM
Yea he can, his name is dwight howard and his little drives into the lane will be met by the reigning defensive player of the year. Your little team beat the PLAYER last series, get ready for a TEAM next series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDE2yAJpNA

Mc Lovin
05-13-2010, 11:19 PM
rondo > nelson


Yeah that's the main thing right there. The Magic don't match up well at all against the Celtics at any position but that's the big one right there. Rondo is going to have Orlando scratching their heads just like Cleveland was and trying to figure out from game to game who is going to guard him and how they're going to stop them.

FaM0us Skins
05-13-2010, 11:20 PM
Celtics will win in 7

streetballa
05-13-2010, 11:20 PM
Nelson<Rondo
Carter>Allen
Pietrus=Pierce now
Lewis=KG now
Howard>Celtics Bigs

Magic Bench>Celtics Bench

Orlando in 6

TheRazorboy
05-13-2010, 11:22 PM
The Magic don't match up well at all against the Celtics at any position.

:confused:

RadiantShot
05-13-2010, 11:22 PM
Underestimated Boston.

goku
05-13-2010, 11:23 PM
boston didnt have kg or rasheed lasr year against the magic so its gonna be a good series celtics in 6 or 7 ..and yea no nelson for them last yeat but rondo will lock him down.... perkins can guard howard ...kg will abuse lewis ..carter have too show up or bye bye magic

Mc Lovin
05-13-2010, 11:23 PM
Nelson<Rondo
Carter>Allen
Pietrus=Pierce now
Lewis=KG now
Howard>Celtics Bigs

Magic Bench>Celtics Bench

Orlando in 6

:facepalm:

RadiantShot
05-13-2010, 11:25 PM
:facepalm:

That's accurate. Not sure why the facepalm. You need to brush up on the facts, and stop seeing through your biased goggles.

Lakersfan2483
05-13-2010, 11:26 PM
whos gonna win?

I am picking the Magic in 7, home court advantage is going to be huge for the Magic in this series.

SteveNash
05-13-2010, 11:26 PM
Howard being better than Perkins/Rasheed/Davis isn't accurate.

sNaKeS
05-13-2010, 11:27 PM
boston didnt have kg or rasheed lasr year against the magic so its gonna be a good series celtics in 6 or 7 ..and yea no nelson for them last yeat but rondo will lock him down.... perkins can guard howard ...kg will abuse lewis ..carter have too show up or bye bye magic

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh::laugh: That made my night bro thanks!!!

streetballa
05-13-2010, 11:27 PM
The main reason Boston beat Cleveland was no one on Cleveland could make a shot so they could clog the lane and stop LBJ from driving. With Orlando they will make their threes and keep Boston honest. Howard will dominate the post and block Rondo at least 2 times a game. Carter will be able to drive the lane and dish to Lewis who will swing it over to some one else for the wide open three....

If Lebron had a consistent shooting teammate the series would be different. The chances all of the Magic's shooters go cold on the same night are slim to none.

DengelBerry
05-13-2010, 11:27 PM
Boston in 7 or 6, I don't think Orlando can play with them as Rando the best PG left in the playoffs and Dwight get Foul happy.

All I want to see is a LAL & BOS Finals
LAL in 5

Lakersfan2483
05-13-2010, 11:28 PM
I think this is a toss up, but I'm going with ORL in 7.
Orlando has no excuses now not to win the title. They have HCA throughout now.

I am thinking the same thing as you are in that I feel Orlando is going to win in 7 and home court will be a major factor for the Magic. Orlando finally has homecourt advantage throughout....

RadiantShot
05-13-2010, 11:28 PM
Underestimated Boston.

Mc Lovin
05-13-2010, 11:29 PM
Haha at people saying Boston in 6. Where were you guys when the Celtics were playing like ****? One magical series doesn't prove anything; whereas, we've had 2 Magical series (Hahah -- Pun), and Swept both opponents 8-0. Like I said, "We'll see come June." This Magic squad is a special one, and I'm sticking by it.

The Celtics started off this season 23-5 before they started suffering injuries and they haven't been 100% healthy since then until about 2 weeks before the playoffs started. Any diehard Celtics fan knew they team we were watching in the middle of the season was losing games because they weren't healthy. You don't even have to be a Celtics fan to realize that. This Celtics team has been playing better in these playoffs than they way they were playing when the won the title 2 years ago.

Discr3t
05-13-2010, 11:30 PM
LOL @ people saying the Magic. they've haven't been tested once throughout the playoffs and the Celtics are gonna come hard. They have zero answer for Rondo plus the big 3 are on fire right now. Celtics in 6.

Mc Lovin
05-13-2010, 11:31 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh::laugh: That made my night bro thanks!!!

I don't know why you think that is so funny. The guy is right. Perkins covers Dwight Howard better than any other center in the NBA.

RadiantShot
05-13-2010, 11:32 PM
Underestimated Boston.

sNaKeS
05-13-2010, 11:33 PM
The Celtics started off this season 23-5 before they started suffering injuries and they haven't been 100% healthy since then until about 2 weeks before the playoffs started. Any diehard Celtics fan knew they team we were watching in the middle of the season was losing games because they weren't healthy. You don't even have to be a Celtics fan to realize that. This Celtics team has been playing better in these playoffs than they way they were playing when the won the title 2 years ago.

Finally I agree with you on something. They were 23-5 before the injuries and really 2 of our games this year were a little odd, we were without jameer early in the season against you and we beat you (with KG), the next game the celtics were without pierce and you beat us (with a healthy lineup). And of course the last 2 were orlando's. But I do disagree with you playing better now than 2 years ago, 2 years ago no one could cover pierce or ray allen off the screens.

RadiantShot
05-13-2010, 11:34 PM
Underestimated Boston.

Discr3t
05-13-2010, 11:34 PM
I can't wait to watch Vince Carter shoot 4-18 and play absolutely no defense. That guy is such a bum.

dodie53
05-13-2010, 11:34 PM
magic in 5

Mc Lovin
05-13-2010, 11:34 PM
That's accurate. Not sure why the facepalm. You need to brush up on the facts, and stop seeing through your biased goggles.

That's accurate? Pietrus and Rashard Lewis are equal to Paul Pierce and KG? That's accurate huh? Your the one who seems biased right now for thinking that. You really do believe in magic huh?

sNaKeS
05-13-2010, 11:34 PM
No, they were a ton better 2 years ago.
The Magic have gotten better this year.
Only Rondo for Boston has gotten better.
We've added new pieces.
Boston's added useless pieces; Tony Allen has developed a little bit better as well though.
Orlando is 27 of there last 30; And has won 14 Straight.

I'm sorry, but I trust my team to come through, and finish this off, and advance to the ECF, but that's just me.

We'll see come June. ;)

Radiant the magic are in the ECF;).

RadiantShot
05-13-2010, 11:35 PM
I can't wait to watch Vince Carter shoot 4-18 and play absolutely no defense. That guy is such a bum.

Don't worry, I'm getting the wheel-chair ready for Paul.

RadiantShot
05-13-2010, 11:35 PM
Radiant the magic are in the ECF;).

to the Finals*.

;)

Mc Lovin
05-13-2010, 11:38 PM
No, they were a ton better 2 years ago.
The Magic have gotten better this year.
Only Rondo for Boston has gotten better.
We've added new pieces.
Boston's added useless pieces; Tony Allen has developed a little bit better as well though.
Orlando is 27 of there last 30; And has won 14 Straight.

I'm sorry, but I trust my team to come through, and finish this off, and advance to the ECF, but that's just me.

We'll see come June. ;)

I said they were playing better. I didn't say they were a better team this year. Saying they are playing better in these playoffs than they were 2 years ago is accurate. 2 years ago Atlanta took the Celtics to 7 games in round 1 and Cleveland took the Celtics to 7 games in round 2 and the Celtics couldn't win on the road in the playoffs 2 years ago. This they have played better on the road than they have at home.

Discr3t
05-13-2010, 11:38 PM
Don't worry, I'm getting the wheel-chair ready for Paul.

If that means he'll come back with 15 points in one quarter I'm all for it!

what54!?
05-13-2010, 11:40 PM
This one is gonna be a dogfight. I picked the magic in seven not because I'm underestimating the C's, but because I think the magic match their intensity. Unlike the cavs the magic are hungry and want revenge from last year's finals.

this series has so many match-up problems on both sides its crazy

Mc Lovin
05-13-2010, 11:42 PM
This one is gonna be a dogfight. I picked the magic in seven not because I'm underestimating the C's, but because I think the magic match their intensity. Unlike the cavs the magic are hungry and want revenge from last year's finals.

this series has so many match-up problems on both sides its crazy

Your right. This series does have so many match up problems but they all favor the Celtics.

goku
05-13-2010, 11:42 PM
Nelson<Rondo
Carter>Allen
Pietrus=Pierce now
Lewis=KG now
Howard>Celtics Bigs

Magic Bench>Celtics Bench

Orlando in 6

nelson < rondo
carter = allen
barnes < pierce
lewis = kg now
howard > perkins

hugepatsfan
05-13-2010, 11:42 PM
Celts are playing better than they were in the championship year. I actually think they are better than that year.

Sadds The Gr8
05-13-2010, 11:43 PM
nelson < rondo
carter = allen
barnes < pierce
lewis = kg now
howard > perkins

no way...

KG>>> Lewis

hugepatsfan
05-13-2010, 11:44 PM
nelson < rondo
carter = allen
barnes < pierce
lewis = kg now
howard > perkins

Maybe I'm reacting too much to one series, but KG looked great against Jamison. I think he is somewhat back to his 07 form. I think he can really dominate Lewis in the post.

Mc Lovin
05-13-2010, 11:47 PM
Maybe I'm reacting too much to one series, but KG looked great against Jamison. I think he is somewhat back to his 07 form. I think he can really dominate Lewis in the post.

Yeah KG did look great and Rashard Lewis is sorta similar to Jamison and KG shut him down and scored over him at will.

hugepatsfan
05-13-2010, 11:49 PM
Yeah KG did look great and Rashard Lewis is sorta similar to Jamison and KG shut him down and scored over him at will.

Ithink Shard is much better offensively, but I think KG can beat him on O like he did Jamison.

Bluffmasta
05-13-2010, 11:50 PM
havnt lost yet in the playoffs, why start i say orl in 4

what54!?
05-13-2010, 11:50 PM
Ithink Shard is much better offensively, but I think KG can beat him on O like he did Jamison.no doubt but I do think lewis will make KG work on D unlike Jamison

rapjuicer06
05-13-2010, 11:51 PM
yea but KG isn't exactly a great defender on the 3-point line. garnett will be taken away from the hoop and he will not be getting rebounds. orlando can put barnes on rondo and slow him down, move nelson to allen and carter to pierce. lewis can guard garnett in the post, his post defense is very underrated and then you have dwight helping out as well. perkins is 0 offensive threat leaving dwight to roam around which equals the biggest mismatch possible in favor of orlando

tr4shb0t
05-13-2010, 11:56 PM
I think his will be the best series in the playoffs so far. Should be much more interesting than the series last year. Boston is healthier plus they have momentum, but magic are better than last year and have HCA and hunger. Going to be a hard fought series.

I'm going Magic in 7

streetballa
05-13-2010, 11:56 PM
That's accurate? Pietrus and Rashard Lewis are equal to Paul Pierce and KG? That's accurate huh? Your the one who seems biased right now for thinking that. You really do believe in magic huh?

Lewis can hit the three and KG is not what he was 2 years ago....I am hoping his knees last through the next series.

What did Pierce do last series? Pietrus is an underrated part of the Magic. But I forgot Barnes is the starter...

Pierce: 40% fg, 33.3% 3pt, 76.6% ft, 5.1 reb, 3.5 assists, 2.5 to, 16.6 ppg
Garnett: 53% fg, 0% 3pt, 85.7% ft, 7.9 reb, 2.2 assists, 1.8 to, 17.1 ppg

Barnes: 41% fg, 33.3% 3pt, 93.8% ft, 4.8 reb, 1.6 assists, .63 to, 7.4 ppg
Pietrus: 46.3% fg, 51% 3pt, 61% ft, 1.9 reb, 1 assist, .63 to, 10.3 ppg
Lewis: 54% fg, 46% 3pt, 86.7% ft, 5.5 reb, 2.6 assists, 1.75 to, 16.4 ppg

So Lewis=KG, with his outside shot giving KG a problem in defending.
Pierce gets starters minutes but combined Pietrus and Barnes are pretty equal. So I stick to my statement....KG and Pierce are getting old they are not what they once were

Tragedy
05-13-2010, 11:58 PM
Orlando in 5. But to be honest, it's not even a big deal. No one expected us to get past LeBron, and we did. There is nothing sweeter than yet again shutting up the "MVP".

Good luck to Orlando. Such a great team. If it's not the Celtics, I hope it's you guys that go all the way.

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 12:00 AM
Underestimated Boston.

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 12:01 AM
Orlando in 5. But to be honest, it's not even a big deal. No one expected us to get past LeBron, and we did. There is nothing sweeter than yet again shutting up the "MVP".

Good luck to Orlando. Such a great team. If it's not the Celtics, I hope it's you guys that go all the way.

Good luck to you too, Tragedy.

Should be a fun series to watch. Can't wait. :)

GatorKid117
05-14-2010, 12:04 AM
Just in regards to Lewis/KG:

Lewis has outscored Garnett (as a Celtic) every game except 1 the past 4 years. So while KG can work Lewis in the post, Lewis can match his output on the other end. They won't be able to guard each other.

The Final Boss
05-14-2010, 12:08 AM
Orlando swept some bums. Celtics are another story.

Raph12
05-14-2010, 12:09 AM
The Magic are not going to sweep the Celtics. If anyone is getting swept it's going to be Orlando. I'm picking Boston in 6 and I don't think it's going to even be close similar to the Cavs series. Celtics defense is too strong and Rondo can't be stopped by anyone on the Magic roster.

You're a tool, Dwight will stop Rondo and the Magic have better defense than the Celts... Magic in 6.

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 12:10 AM
Raph is always right.

TheRazorboy
05-14-2010, 12:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDE2yAJpNA

Still too big a loser to honor your bet, huh?

pistonsfanomg
05-14-2010, 12:16 AM
Personally I don't care

Its going to be a boring series....

I hope Suns win the Finals

and I hope its Suns vs Magic

Mc Lovin
05-14-2010, 12:17 AM
You're a tool, Dwight will stop Rondo and the Magic have better defense than the Celts... Magic in 6.

I've never heard anyone say the Magic have a better defense than the Celtics. I've heard people say the Cavs have a better defense but never Orlando. They are not great at playing team defense. They never were. They have a couple very good defenders but that's not the same as team defense. Van Gundy has never been known as a great defensive coach. The Magic have lived and died by the 3 pointer for years now and haven't won too many games based on stellar defense. Remember the same team that killed Orlando in the finals last year is the same team Boston embarrassed in the finals 2 years ago. KG, Pierce, and Ray Allen are 2 years older but Rondo is 5 times better and this team runs through him now unlike 2 years ago when it was all the big 3.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 12:22 AM
Wow it's ridiculous how many homers are on this board......

SouljahPhil...
05-14-2010, 12:25 AM
one hell of a playoff series...damm!!!!

bostncelts34
05-14-2010, 12:27 AM
I picked boston in 6. Reason why...

1. No one no that roster can stop Rajon. He will have a similar if not better series against Orlando.

2. Perkin's does one hell of a job on Howard. Howard said it himself that Perk plays him the best.

3. Boston's defense. They will not allow orlando to sit open at the 3 line all day where they thrive.

4. Pierce. Most people think Pierce is done...but you gotta remember he had Lebron on him 90% of the series. Also got in foul trouble from guarding Lebron. I expect him to have a much better series.

bostncelts34
05-14-2010, 12:29 AM
Lewis can hit the three and KG is not what he was 2 years ago....I am hoping his knees last through the next series.

What did Pierce do last series? Pietrus is an underrated part of the Magic. But I forgot Barnes is the starter...

Pierce: 40% fg, 33.3% 3pt, 76.6% ft, 5.1 reb, 3.5 assists, 2.5 to, 16.6 ppg
Garnett: 53% fg, 0% 3pt, 85.7% ft, 7.9 reb, 2.2 assists, 1.8 to, 17.1 ppg

Barnes: 41% fg, 33.3% 3pt, 93.8% ft, 4.8 reb, 1.6 assists, .63 to, 7.4 ppg
Pietrus: 46.3% fg, 51% 3pt, 61% ft, 1.9 reb, 1 assist, .63 to, 10.3 ppg
Lewis: 54% fg, 46% 3pt, 86.7% ft, 5.5 reb, 2.6 assists, 1.75 to, 16.4 ppg

So Lewis=KG, with his outside shot giving KG a problem in defending.
Pierce gets starters minutes but combined Pietrus and Barnes are pretty equal. So I stick to my statement....KG and Pierce are getting old they are not what they once were

Ok, so Rashard will have an advantage on the 3 pt line sure. But there is no way that rashard can cover KG on the block. You saw what he did to Jamison.

still1ballin
05-14-2010, 12:31 AM
Haha at people saying Boston in 6. Where were you guys when the Celtics were playing like ****? One magical series doesn't prove anything; whereas, we've had 2 Magical series (Hahah -- Pun), and Swept both opponents 8-0. Like I said, "We'll see come June." This Magic squad is a special one, and I'm sticking by it.

And people laughed when they said Boston would beat the Cavs. Don't take them for granted man. This year Orlando's team reminded me of last post season Cavs team. The cavs face a depleted Piston team in the first round and then an average Hawks team in the 2nd, but once they faced a real elite team in the Magic, they got pwned. Same situation, the Magic played a below average Bobcats team and a Hawks team that was lost. Magic hasn't really faced an elite team yet and haven't been tested.

I am just saying to get to cocky now and posting dumb **** or else you will end up on my sig.

YourTeamSucks
05-14-2010, 12:32 AM
ORL in 5!

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 12:32 AM
In regards to the people saying Lewis is like Jamison, that's actually not true. First, Lewis is younger than Jamison. Second and more importantly, he (6-10') is actually taller and longer than Jamison (6-9'). So it's not like Garnett's (6-11') going to have a Jamison clone on him again, but with that said, Garnett will still have an advantage.

Lewis is a better shooter than Jamison though. Much better shooter actually. So those believing this is going to be as one-sided as the Jamison-Garnett matchup are in for a rude awakening. With that said, I'd still give the advantage to Garnett. It's just not as large as some of the Celtics fans are making it.

The thing to remember here is that Garnett does have to guard Lewis on the perimeter. He didn't really have to do that with Jamison, who is not that good of a 3 point shooter (35% on the year). Garnett on the perimeter does hurt the C's interior defense.

Perkins has given Howard a tough time in the past but Howard's offensive game has improved so that should be a very interesting matchup. This may be where the series is decided because if the C's have to double Howard, they're in trouble. If they don't, the Magic are in trouble.

Raph12
05-14-2010, 12:33 AM
I picked boston in 6. Reason why...

1. No one no that roster can stop Rajon. He will have a similar if not better series against Orlando.

2. Perkin's does one hell of a job on Howard. Howard said it himself that Perk plays him the best.

3. Boston's defense. They will not allow orlando to sit open at the 3 line all day where they thrive.

4. Pierce. Most people think Pierce is done...but you gotta remember he had Lebron on him 90% of the series. Also got in foul trouble from guarding Lebron. I expect him to have a much better series.

Magic in 6 and here's why your reasons are meritless;

1. Rondo isn't a shooter, Nelson will press him and force him to go over Dwight.

2. Perkins was lit up in the 2 most recent games they played and admitted Dwight was better offensively and that he had to step his defense up.

3. Jameer and VC running the p&r with Dwight will either open up the shooters or the lane, pick your poison.

4. Pierce will play better than he did last series because he won't guard VC (Rayray probably will), but Barnes will harass him and Dwight will make him a shooter.

If anything, it will be KG's play that will give them a real fighting chance, if they're forced to guard KG with Dwight, that'll open up the lane for Rondo, other than that, I don't see them being a legit threat... No offense.

Apophis
05-14-2010, 12:33 AM
I say Boston in 6...

TheRazorboy
05-14-2010, 12:34 AM
I say Boston in 6...

Great explination.

Raph12
05-14-2010, 12:36 AM
And people laughed when they said Boston would beat the Cavs. Don't take them for granted man. This year Orlando's team reminded me of last post season Cavs team. The cavs face a depleted Piston team in the first round and then an average Hawks team in the 2nd, but once they faced a real elite team in the Magic, they got pwned. Same situation, the Magic played a below average Bobcats team and a Hawks team that was lost. Magic hasn't really faced an elite team yet and haven't been tested.

I am just saying to get to cocky now and posting dumb **** or else you will end up on my sig.

That's just it man, no matter how cocky our fans are, our players and coach are just as humble. They treat every team like they're the best, treat every possession like the game depends on it and play every game like it's their last. Their drive, motivation and hunger to win is unrivalled, they battle hard regardless of their opponents and they respect everybody. If the Celts beat them, it's because they truly are a better team, not because our players/coaching staff took them too lightly (which seems to be a trend with the Cavs).

bostncelts34
05-14-2010, 12:38 AM
[QUOTE=Raph12;13313588]Magic in 6 and here's why your reasons are meritless;

1. Rondo isn't a shooter, Nelson will press him and force him to go over Dwight.




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1. You saw Rondo has improved his jumper. Is it great? no, But its there. If Nelson presses him rondo will blow by him and eys their will be dwight. But dwight coming up for rondo means Perk is left open. Rondo will find the open man if Rondo is constantly drawing D12's attention.

Mc Lovin
05-14-2010, 12:39 AM
I picked boston in 6. Reason why...

1. No one no that roster can stop Rajon. He will have a similar if not better series against Orlando.

2. Perkin's does one hell of a job on Howard. Howard said it himself that Perk plays him the best.

3. Boston's defense. They will not allow orlando to sit open at the 3 line all day where they thrive.

4. Pierce. Most people think Pierce is done...but you gotta remember he had Lebron on him 90% of the series. Also got in foul trouble from guarding Lebron. I expect him to have a much better series.


I agree with everything you said 100%. I do think Orlando is better than they were last year but I still think Boston causes too many match up problems for Orlando. Orlando is a better team this year and Vince Carter is better than Hedo Turkoglu no doubt but Turkoglu gave the Celtics so many match up problems over the past few years and replacing him with Vince Carter makes Orlando tougher against most teams but I think it plays right into Boston's hands. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce have always had their way over the years when guarding Carter and you gotta remember that this Celtics team is better on the road than they are at home unlike the way they were 2 years ago so homecourt doesn't mean much. Boston is finally 100% healthy and playing great and the scary thing is KG seemed like he got a little bit better after every game since the playoffs began. I think this is going to be a match up nightmare for the Magic and Rondo is going to give them fits.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 12:40 AM
Magic in 6 and here's why your reasons are meritless;

1. Rondo isn't a shooter, Nelson will press him and force him to go over Dwight.

2. Perkins was lit up in the 2 most recent games they played and admitted Dwight was better offensively and that he had to step his defense up.

3. Jameer and VC running the p&r with Dwight will either open up the shooters or the lane, pick your poison.

4. Pierce will play better than he did last series because he won't guard VC (Rayray probably will), but Barnes will harass him and Dwight will make him a shooter.

If anything, it will be KG's play that will give them a real fighting chance, if they're forced to guard KG with Dwight, that'll open up the lane for Rondo, other than that, I don't see them being a legit threat... No offense.

Dwight is better offensively now, I won't deny that. BUT the C's are playing MUCH better defense in the playoffs now compared to the regular season.

I really think people put to much stock in the regular season matchups. There's been a number of teams who won the series in the regular season and lost in the playoffs. The C's sleepwalked through the regular season, they've woken up and turned it on. Don't make the mistake in thinking you're getting the regular season C's. You're not.

Lakersho
05-14-2010, 12:42 AM
celts play well on the road,c s in 6 perk is trouble for d. howard

Lakersho
05-14-2010, 12:44 AM
Ok, so Rashard will have an advantage on the 3 pt line sure. But there is no way that rashard can cover KG on the block. You saw what he did to Jamison.

x2

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 12:46 AM
I think both of these teams are capable of winning on the road. The Magic can win in Boston and Boston can win in Orlando.

Also, Nelson will have problems guarding Rondo, there's no doubt about that but I think Nelson's better than anyone the Cavs had to guard Rondo. Perhaps Nelson can use his body (he's a lot heavier) to play physical with Rondo and maybe that slows him down a bit? Probably not but it's better than anything the Cavs had.

SteveNash
05-14-2010, 12:47 AM
The only way Orlando really wins a game is if the Celtics get lazy and don't contest three point shots. Orlando's gimmick offense can't stand up to Boston's defense.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 12:49 AM
The only way Orlando really wins a game is if the Celtics get lazy and don't contest three point shots. Orlando's gimmick offense can't stand up to Boston's defense.

You're an idiot. Even Celtics fans can admit they won't win in a sweep. Give Orlando some credit. You clearly haven't got a clue about the NBA.

Raph12
05-14-2010, 12:51 AM
[QUOTE=Raph12;13313588]Magic in 6 and here's why your reasons are meritless;

1. Rondo isn't a shooter, Nelson will press him and force him to go over Dwight.




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1. You saw Rondo has improved his jumper. Is it great? no, But its there. If Nelson presses him rondo will blow by him and eys their will be dwight. But dwight coming up for rondo means Perk is left open. Rondo will find the open man if Rondo is constantly drawing D12's attention.

Dwight just stands in the way with his arms up, he doesn't jump up for each shot like he used to last season, plus Dwight watches tape on every opponent thoroughly to recognize their tendencies, he knows Rondo likes to dish, so he'll look for the pass first. I'm not saying Rondo will get shutdown, but he won't have all the easy layups he did in the Cavs series.


Dwight is better offensively now, I won't deny that. BUT the C's are playing MUCH better defense in the playoffs now compared to the regular season.

I really think people put to much stock in the regular season matchups. There's been a number of teams who won the series in the regular season and lost in the playoffs. The C's sleepwalked through the regular season, they've woken up and turned it on. Don't make the mistake in thinking you're getting the regular season C's. You're not.

Definitely agree, I said that no one should sleep on the Celts in the playoffs, but Perk always plays aggressive defense against Dwight. Dwight even complained about it after the first game when Perk held him to 5pts, but Stan got on him and he stopped trying to just bull over him and hit him with his postmoves. I agree that the Celts are playing harder and better than they did in the season, but Dwight's offense has come a long way and the Magic p&r is something no team can guard.

Also, everyone has overlooked the Magic defense, we were the best defensive team in the season and are the best defensive team in the playoffs thus far. It's definitely going to be a good series, but I like our chances, Magic in 6.

topdog
05-14-2010, 12:57 AM
Celts in 6. Perkins can neutralize Dwight. Aside from the Howard matchup, Boston outmatches Orlando at every position.

Dare I dream of a Phoenix-Boston final?

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 12:59 AM
Definitely agree, I said that no one should sleep on the Celts in the playoffs, but Perk always plays aggressive defense against Dwight. Dwight even complained about it after the first game when Perk held him to 5pts, but Stan got on him and he stopped trying to just bull over him and hit him with his postmoves. I agree that the Celts are playing harder and better than they did in the season, but Dwight's offense has come a long way and the Magic p&r is something no team can guard.

Also, everyone has overlooked the Magic defense, we were the best defensive team in the season and are the best defensive team in the playoffs thus far. It's definitely going to be a good series, but I like our chances, Magic in 6.

This matchup is going to be huge. If the C's have to double Howard, thats going to open up a lot of 3 point looks for the Magic and I think the Magic end up winning the series. If the C's can play Howard with just Perkins, the Magic will struggle to score and I think they lose the series. I really think it could come down to this.

I think the Magic defense is really underrated. They were tied with Charlotte for 1st in defensive efficiency on the regular season. Of course, I don't really like looking at the regular season when it comes to the playoffs but that is def worth mentioning. The Magic are very very good defensively. Better than the Cavs. And I think Rondo will have a great series but it'll be tougher with Nelson on him vs. what the Cavs had. Garnett's going to be a problem for the Magic though, luckily for them, the C's sometimes seem to forget he's on the court.

SteveNash
05-14-2010, 01:01 AM
You're an idiot. Even Celtics fans can admit they won't win in a sweep. Give Orlando some credit. You clearly haven't got a clue about the NBA.

Most Suns fans didn't think they'd sweep the Spurs. What is your point?

All I'm saying is that when the Celtics are playing their best, they'll win every time.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 01:03 AM
Most Suns fans didn't think they'd sweep the Spurs. What is your point?

All I'm saying is that when the Celtics are playing their best, they'll win every time.

Did they win every time against the Cavs? For god sakes, they even dropped a game against the Heat.

Actually, ya know what? The C's have NOT swept ANYBODY since they got their big 3. Look it up if you don't believe me.

SteveNash
05-14-2010, 01:05 AM
Did they win every time against the Cavs? For god sakes, they even dropped a game against the Heat.

Actually, ya know what? The C's have NOT swept ANYBODY since they got their big 3. Look it up if you don't believe me.

So you think they played their best ever single series?

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 01:06 AM
So you think they played their best ever single series?

I'm not the one who said the Magic are going to be swept. What's your point?

Series? Yes. Game? No. No one plays their best every single game.

Sadds The Gr8
05-14-2010, 01:10 AM
Orlando in 7. Then LA beats them in 6 next round

MTar786
05-14-2010, 01:11 AM
celtics in 6 then lose to LA in 6

SteveNash
05-14-2010, 01:12 AM
I'm not the one who said the Magic are going to be swept. What's your point?

Series? Yes. Game? No. No one plays their best every single game.

All I'm saying is energy and effort.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 01:13 AM
Celts in 6. Perkins can neutralize Dwight. Aside from the Howard matchup, Boston outmatches Orlando at every position.

Dare I dream of a Phoenix-Boston final?

What about Vince vs. Ray? Vince had the higher PER this season. Ray's the better shooter, Vince is better at everything else.

SteveNash
05-14-2010, 01:15 AM
What about Vince vs. Ray? Vince had the higher PER this season. Ray's the better shooter, Vince is better at everything else.

Allen's the better defender.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 01:16 AM
All I'm saying is energy and effort.

I don't think there's a single team in the NBA who brings their max energy and effort every single game. Although the Magic seem to have done that this postseason.

But seriously, the better team doesn't always win in a sweep does it?

jdmd3
05-14-2010, 01:18 AM
I've never heard anyone say the Magic have a better defense than the Celtics. I've heard people say the Cavs have a better defense but never Orlando. They are not great at playing team defense. They never were. They have a couple very good defenders but that's not the same as team defense. Van Gundy has never been known as a great defensive coach. The Magic have lived and died by the 3 pointer for years now and haven't won too many games based on stellar defense. Remember the same team that killed Orlando in the finals last year is the same team Boston embarrassed in the finals 2 years ago. KG, Pierce, and Ray Allen are 2 years older but Rondo is 5 times better and this team runs through him now unlike 2 years ago when it was all the big 3.

How is Orlando not great at team defense?

Haven't you noticed that the Magic did not let the Hawks or the Bobcats even reach 100 points during their two sweeps? Both teams are no Phoenix Suns in offense, but Atlanta, despite relying in lots of iso plays, had a the 3rd highest rate of pts per possesion trailing only the Suns and the Magic respectively.

Did you not see how the Magic shut down some great offensive players like Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford? Joe Johnson was a 20ppg 5apg at 46%fg 37%3fg during the season but was held to 13ppg 30%fg 18%3fg. Crawford was a 45% shooter but against the Magic he shot just 33%.

During the playoffs and the regular season Magic allowed the fewest pts per possession. The Magic also had the lowest opponent fg% during the season and the playoffs.

The dunks and the threes catch people's attention but the Magic win by defense and ball movement.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 01:18 AM
Allen's the better defender.

Yeah, maybe but they're both not that great at this point in their career. Not that either of them were ever great defenders in the first place. Vince has the tools to play better defense than Allen though (thats not saying much).

Point is, both of these guys aren't the key guys defensively, if anything the team defenses of the Magic and C's help cover the flaws that these guys have on the defensive end.

Raph12
05-14-2010, 01:19 AM
This matchup is going to be huge. If the C's have to double Howard, thats going to open up a lot of 3 point looks for the Magic and I think the Magic end up winning the series. If the C's can play Howard with just Perkins, the Magic will struggle to score and I think they lose the series. I really think it could come down to this.

I think the Magic defense is really underrated. They were tied with Charlotte for 1st in defensive efficiency on the regular season. Of course, I don't really like looking at the regular season when it comes to the playoffs but that is def worth mentioning. The Magic are very very good defensively. Better than the Cavs. And I think Rondo will have a great series but it'll be tougher with Nelson on him vs. what the Cavs had. Garnett's going to be a problem for the Magic though, luckily for them, the C's sometimes seem to forget he's on the court.

I think Dwight vs Perk and KG vs Shard will be the two most important matchups. If Dwight can be Dwight (~20ppg on 55+FG%), then we got this in the bag, if Dwight stuggles, we'll be running that p&r until the day we die. If Shard can guard KG 1v1, then Dwight will be free to shut the paint down, but if Dwight has to guard him, then things become difficult.

We're a great defensive team, everyone forgets that, we will definitely make it harder to score, Shard is taller and longer than Jamison, so he'll get a hand in KG's face every time, Redick can run around those picks/screens all game long to get a hand in Rayray's face, Barnes/Pietrus will harass Pierce and Dwight will make everyone jumpshooters... It won't be easy, I honestly think whichever team comes out of the East can beat LA so let's just wait it out and let the best team win. :cheers:

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 01:21 AM
To the idiot who thinks the Magic aren't good defensively: They were tied for 1st in the NBA in defensive efficiency.

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/defensiveEff/order/false

They are also 1st in the postseason in defensive efficiency. (playing the Hawks and Bobcats does help though)

Raph12
05-14-2010, 01:24 AM
We were 1st in dEFF, dRB%, oppFG%, basket protection (oppFG% at rim) and paint protection (pts in paint per 100 possessions)... Same thing in the playoffs.

thapharcyd
05-14-2010, 01:29 AM
Magic in 6.... they are just the better team IMO

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 01:31 AM
I think Dwight vs Perk and KG vs Shard will be the two most important matchups. If Dwight can be Dwight (~20ppg on 55+FG%), then we got this in the bag, if Dwight stuggles, we'll be running that p&r until the day we die. If Shard can guard KG 1v1, then Dwight will be free to shut the paint down, but if Dwight has to guard him, then things become difficult.

We're a great defensive team, everyone forgets that, we will definitely make it harder to score, Shard is taller and longer than Jamison, so he'll get a hand in KG's face every time, Redick can run around those picks/screens all game long to get a hand in Rayray's face, Barnes/Pietrus will harass Pierce and Dwight will make everyone jumpshooters... It won't be easy, I honestly think whichever team comes out of the East can beat LA so let's just wait it out and let the best team win. :cheers:

Yup, I agree. The 2 most important matchups. I also think whether Nelson can slow Rondo down will be important. Let's be honest, I don't think Nelson can shut him down, but if he can slow him down, that'll be huge.

And yes he is, not enough people realize this, a lot of people just think Lewis is a Jamison clone which is not at all true. But I do see Lewis struggling to guard Garnett, that's going to be tough. But something you should be encouraged by is the fact that the C's forget Garnett is on the court a lot of the time (obviously not today but in general they do). They don't go to him enough in the post. I think this will certainly help even out that matchup.

I really do hope whichever teams wins the east beats LA. Can't stand the Lakers (and its fans).

Miltown34
05-14-2010, 01:32 AM
Orlando fans are doing what every team does well they play a good series and some people think it will be a sweep it's going to go 2 7

Miltown34
05-14-2010, 01:34 AM
all these stats don't mean a damn thing at this time of year it's not about heart desire, and whoever plays the smartest will win this series

SteveNash
05-14-2010, 01:34 AM
I don't think there's a single team in the NBA who brings their max energy and effort every single game. Although the Magic seem to have done that this postseason.

But seriously, the better team doesn't always win in a sweep does it?

But as long as Orlando is able to turn it on for 4 games they win the series. Should be easy enough.


How is Orlando not great at team defense?

There defensive scheme is simplistic and can be easily broken down by any disciplined offense.


Haven't you noticed that the Magic did not let the Hawks or the Bobcats even reach 100 points during their two sweeps? Both teams are no Phoenix Suns in offense, but Atlanta, despite relying in lots of iso plays, had a the 3rd highest rate of pts per possesion trailing only the Suns and the Magic respectively.

Did you not see how the Magic shut down some great offensive players like Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford? Joe Johnson was a 20ppg 5apg at 46%fg 37%3fg during the season but was held to 13ppg 30%fg 18%3fg. Crawford was a 45% shooter but against the Magic he shot just 33%.

There you go. Much like Orlando's defense falters in the playoffs, the same can be said about Atlanta's offense.


Yeah, maybe but they're both not that great at this point in their career. Not that either of them were ever great defenders in the first place. Vince has the tools to play better defense than Allen though (thats not saying much).

Point is, both of these guys aren't the key guys defensively, if anything the team defenses of the Magic and C's help cover the flaws that these guys have on the defensive end.

Allen is also stronger mentally and can pretty much free himself from any kind of individual defense.

joe j.09
05-14-2010, 01:36 AM
magic in 7...i c this one going the distance

SteveNash
05-14-2010, 01:37 AM
We were 1st in dEFF, dRB%, oppFG%, basket protection (oppFG% at rim) and paint protection (pts in paint per 100 possessions)... Same thing in the playoffs.

Actually, Chicago anchored by Joakim Noah was at basket protection than Orlando.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 01:38 AM
all these stats don't mean a damn thing at this time of year it's not about heart desire, and whoever plays the smartest will win this series

These stats are being thrown out there because someone said the Magic weren't a good defensive team which is ridiculous. They are.

Heart and desire matter but c'mon, they don't decide the series. Both teams are hungry, the BETTER team wins, not who has more heart and desire.

Whoever plays the smartest will win though. Playing smart is part of being good. Both teams are well-coached (unlike the Cavs- Mike Brown's an idiot, why wasn't Varejao starting?). Should be a great series.

Raph12
05-14-2010, 01:49 AM
Yup, I agree. The 2 most important matchups. I also think whether Nelson can slow Rondo down will be important. Let's be honest, I don't think Nelson can shut him down, but if he can slow him down, that'll be huge.

And yes he is, not enough people realize this, a lot of people just think Lewis is a Jamison clone which is not at all true. But I do see Lewis struggling to guard Garnett, that's going to be tough. But something you should be encouraged by is the fact that the C's forget Garnett is on the court a lot of the time (obviously not today but in general they do). They don't go to him enough in the post. I think this will certainly help even out that matchup.

I really do hope whichever teams wins the east beats LA. Can't stand the Lakers (and its fans).

Definitely, I think Nelson being able to stay on Rondo or atleast try to keep up will be key, but if they can refrain from Dwight guarding KG, he can force Rondo into a lot of high-arching floaters. Rondo's play will be big if the offense is stagnant when the big 3 struggle like they do sometimes.

Shard is taller, longer, bigger (230lbs), a better shooter and has a much better postgame. He will definitely make KG work more on both ends, I do think KG will win the matchup, but as long as we don't have to switch Dwight on him, I'm good.

I honestly love Kobe, I still think he's the best player in the world (I said I'd let Lebron prove me wrong, but he did the opposite), but I just hate the arrogance of the "Lakers fans" I mean you have your humble and classy fans, and then you have the "Lakers fans" plus they beat us last year so I want revenge. :p


These stats are being thrown out there because someone said the Magic weren't a good defensive team which is ridiculous. They are.

Heart and desire matter but c'mon, they don't decide the series. Both teams are hungry, the BETTER team wins, not who has more heart and desire.

Whoever plays the smartest will win though. Playing smart is part of being good. Both teams are well-coached (unlike the Cavs- Mike Brown's an idiot, why wasn't Varejao starting?). Should be a great series.

x2

Let the best team win.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 01:49 AM
But as long as Orlando is able to turn it on for 4 games they win the series. Should be easy enough.

:confused: I didn't say Orlando would win in 4. Actually, I haven't said who'd win at all. Haven't had enough time to think about the matchups. It's going to be a good series though.




There defensive scheme is simplistic and can be easily broken down by any disciplined offense.

or Dwight Howard is really really good defensively.

How about some examples?



There you go. Much like Orlando's defense falters in the playoffs, the same can be said about Atlanta's offense.

:confused: How has Orlando's defense faltered in the playoffs?

I don't understand why you can't seem to give the Magic any credit, they're a good team. Who cares if the way they play is a bit unorthodox- it works. And judging by your sig, you seem to have horribly underestimated the Magic.



Allen is also stronger mentally and can pretty much free himself from any kind of individual defense.

What about team defense? Are you saying Ray Allen has never been shut down? I didn't realize Ray Allen is Michael Jordan :rolleyes:

Allen's stronger mentally- good for him. So is Vince a slouch mentally or something?

Raph12
05-14-2010, 01:54 AM
^^^Allen was shutdown by Redick last season, he ran around/through all of those screens and got a hand up on every shot, it threw off Rayray's rhythem... Just saying.

Btw don't mind him, he's just getting in a couple of final jabs before tipoff of the ECFs, then he'll be forced to keep his mouth shut lol.

Blue Magic
05-14-2010, 02:01 AM
You know your a great team when you have haters like SteveNash looking for every nook & cranny to criticize you. Just some advise to Steve tho, defense is the place you want to start criticizing the Magic. They have been #1 in defensive efficiency for 2 years in a row. Clown.

Olmagic4life
05-14-2010, 02:04 AM
I havent been on here in a long time due to my pc being shut down, but....I dont know why no one is giving Nelson any credit! He was gone last year with an injury and he is on top of his game now. BTW Rondo is not he best pg left in the playoffs, its Nelson and what he brings to the team. No one on Boston, can defend him....Have to remember EVERYONE on the Magic has gotten better, and with the DEEPEST BENCH in the NBA (made up of OFFENSE and DEFENSE) Boston doesnt want it to go 7 games...Orlando can win the series in the 4 games or let boston hang around and take them in 6 like they did last year...Boston is a good team with great players, but they are old, they are slow and they cant run up and down the court with the Magic.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 02:07 AM
Definitely, I think Nelson being able to stay on Rondo or atleast try to keep up will be key, but if they can refrain from Dwight guarding KG, he can force Rondo into a lot of high-arching floaters. Rondo's play will be big if the offense is stagnant when the big 3 struggle like they do sometimes.

Shard is taller, longer, bigger (230lbs), a better shooter and has a much better postgame. He will definitely make KG work more on both ends, I do think KG will win the matchup, but as long as we don't have to switch Dwight on him, I'm good.

I honestly love Kobe, I still think he's the best player in the world (I said I'd let Lebron prove me wrong, but he did the opposite), but I just hate the arrogance of the "Lakers fans" I mean you have your humble and classy fans, and then you have the "Lakers fans" plus they beat us last year so I want revenge. :p


Yeah, I think maybe Nelson has to try to be physical with Rondo, use his bigger body to his advantage. I don't know if that'll work though. I don't know if playing off Rondo is necessarily the best strategy because it gives him open sight lines. I'd suggest Nelson be physical with Rondo because that seems to be the advantage he has and maybe he can wear him down? I don't know, this is going to be tough for Nelson.

Yup, thats the most important thing- as long as Orlando doesn't have to put Dwight on Garnett, then they should be fine.

Don't like Kobe, but I have come to respect him. Part of it is the massive lovefest Laker fans have for Kobe. They think he walks on water. And most of them actually believe he's better than MJ. And I know I'm generalizing here but from what I've seen, Laker fans are easily the most arrogant fans. Don't even think there's a fanbase thats even close. They'll tell you its the titles they've won recently but the Spurs have 4 titles recently and their fans aren't arrogant douches. Even worse- they always complain about officiating when in reality the NBA is generally favorable to the Lakers.

And to the Laker fans- not all of you are like this, just seems like most of you are.

Tragedy
05-14-2010, 02:10 AM
^To be honest, I don't mind people loving Kobe as much as they do - The guy is unreal. It's a sure thing he's going to win with that last shot, and he's now owner of FIVE championships - That speaks for itself.

I don't know if Kobe was guilty or not a few years ago, but it was that one incident that has deterred the NBA from making Kobe the poster boy of the NBA. LeBron is 'their guy', but there is no doubt that Kobe is the best player in the NBA. I don't "like" the Lakers, but I don't "hate" them the way that every other Celtics fan does - I respect the hell out of that organization and I love watching Kobe play. I'd love to see another Lakers vs. Celtics in a few weeks.

With that said, as I said before, Orlando is TOUGH. They're a fantastic team, and I've enjoyed watching them this season. I was skeptical that we could pass Cleveland, and I'm even more so towards Orlando. Either way, it should be a fun series. I don't see a sweep on either end - That'd be shocking.

Raph12
05-14-2010, 02:19 AM
Yeah, I think maybe Nelson has to try to be physical with Rondo, use his bigger body to his advantage. I don't know if that'll work though. I don't know if playing off Rondo is necessarily the best strategy because it gives him open sight lines. I'd suggest Nelson be physical with Rondo because that seems to be the advantage he has and maybe he can wear him down? I don't know, this is going to be tough for Nelson.

Yup, thats the most important thing- as long as Orlando doesn't have to put Dwight on Garnett, then they should be fine.

Don't like Kobe, but I have come to respect him. Part of it is the massive lovefest Laker fans have for Kobe. They think he walks on water. And most of them actually believe he's better than MJ. And I know I'm generalizing here but from what I've seen, Laker fans are easily the most arrogant fans. Don't even think there's a fanbase thats even close. They'll tell you its the titles they've won recently but the Spurs have 4 titles recently and their fans aren't arrogant douches. Even worse- they always complain about officiating when in reality the NBA is generally favorable to the Lakers.

And to the Laker fans- not all of you are like this, just seems like most of you are.

Idk if Nelson can do anything to win the matchup, but if he can hit the shots the defense gives him and stay with Rondo up and down the floor, he's doing his job.

If Shard can guard KG 1v1 (holding him to 15-25ppg on under 50FG%), then we're good, but if KG's going off, they'll be forced to put Dwight on him, which will open up the lane for Rondo.

I love Kobe, but I hate the die-hard fans, you have a few of them for Lebron as well, like Lebron_King_23. :facepalm: But overall I love Kobe, he's definitely not on MJ's level, MJ dominated the game in every way possible. No player has been on MJ's level and I don't know if there every will be a player like him again. But Kobe is the best in the league IMO because when his team needs him to perform, he does, in one way or another, he delivers. Of course, the inexperienced Thunder and undermanned Jazz weren't much of challenge and the big-less Suns (no Amare, Frye and Amundson aren't bigs and Lopez is hurt) won't be too hard to take care of either... It'll be interesting to see what they can do against a strong defensive team like Orlando or Boston.

ko8e24
05-14-2010, 02:20 AM
This series is going the full distance.

It'll seem like Orlando is lookin sexy right now, but I think the Boston Celtics will win the series in 7 games.


We will see a rematch of the 2008 NBA Finals, and the defending NBA World Champion Los Angeles Lakers will get their revenge and FINALLY get rid of that "SOFT" Label by killing those damn leprechauns.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 02:21 AM
^To be honest, I don't mind people loving Kobe as much as they do - The guy is unreal. It's a sure thing he's going to win with that last shot, and he's now owner of FIVE championships - That speaks for itself.

I don't know if Kobe was guilty or not a few years ago, but it was that one incident that has deterred the NBA from making Kobe the poster boy of the NBA. LeBron is 'their guy', but there is no doubt that Kobe is the best player in the NBA. I don't "like" the Lakers, but I don't "hate" them the way that every other Celtics fan does - I respect the hell out of that organization and I love watching Kobe play. I'd love to see another Lakers vs. Celtics in a few weeks.

With that said, as I said before, Orlando is TOUGH. They're a fantastic team, and I've enjoyed watching them this season. I was skeptical that we could pass Cleveland, and I'm even more so towards Orlando. Either way, it should be a fun series. I don't see a sweep on either end - That'd be shocking.

Five championships? He's got four. If he wins this year, he'd get 5.

Kobe's game really is great to watch, I just have a problem with Kobe the person.

I don't like the Kobe vs. Lebron comparisons. I'm going to stay away from that. Mainly because one guy is 25 and the other guys is 32(?). I still think its unfair to compare Lebron to Kobe because Kobe's been in the league much longer. Lebron's still got a lot of years to get championships. This isn't a Brady/Manning situation or Crosby/Ovechkin.

I am looking forward to this Orlando-C's series. I think it's going to be a great one. There are too many fans from both fanbases underestimating the opposing team- I guess that's to be expected- but I really do see this series going 7. And I don't really think homecourt means much for either team.

ko8e24
05-14-2010, 02:27 AM
Five championships? He's got four. If he wins this year, he'd get 5.

Kobe's game really is great to watch, I just have a problem with Kobe the person.

I don't like the Kobe vs. Lebron comparisons. I'm going to stay away from that. Mainly because one guy is 25 and the other guys is 32(?). I still think its unfair to compare Lebron to Kobe because Kobe's been in the league much longer. Lebron's still got a lot of years to get championships. This isn't a Brady/Manning situation or Crosby/Ovechkin.

I am looking forward to this Orlando-C's series. I think it's going to be a great one. There are too many fans from both fanbases underestimating the opposing team- I guess that's to be expected- but I really do see this series going 7. And I don't really think homecourt means much for either team.


Kobe the person from 2003 (Colorado and snitch on Shaq) is very different the Kobe of today.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 02:33 AM
Kobe the person from 2003 (Colorado and snitch on Shaq) is very different the Kobe of today.

That's true and I'll give Kobe credit for growing up. And I really do admire his competitive fire and his game. But like I said earlier, part of it is the fans. And I've always been rooting against the Lakers dating back to when they were playing Portland and the Kings. Just can't stop rooting against him and the Lakers. It's in my DNA now, they've become the team I "love to hate" ;)

LakersIn5
05-14-2010, 02:40 AM
celtics in 4, maybe 5 or 6 or 7.. but still the celtics... another lakers-celtics finals would be classic

jackdawson
05-14-2010, 02:42 AM
My pick is definately Boston. It seems like they have got that 2008 swagger back. They are most dangerous team when the chemistry is on. Besides, Rondo will be too much for Jameer Nelson.

ko8e24
05-14-2010, 02:55 AM
That's true and I'll give Kobe credit for growing up. And I really do admire his competitive fire and his game. But like I said earlier, part of it is the fans. And I've always been rooting against the Lakers dating back to when they were playing Portland and the Kings. Just can't stop rooting against him and the Lakers. It's in my DNA now, they've become the team I "love to hate" ;)

I can respect that.

TheRazorboy
05-14-2010, 03:12 AM
celtics in 4, maybe 5 or 6 or 7.. but still the celtics... another lakers-celtics finals would be classic

Wow, you've certainly narrowed it down Vaguey McVaguerson.

JordansBulls
05-14-2010, 07:52 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2010/matchup/_/teams/celtics-magic

Anon
05-14-2010, 08:39 AM
This series will not be close. Boston v Cleveland was fools gold. Charlotte would have given the Celts a better series. Celtics are still too old and too slow. They have to keep Orlando under 100 to win and that ain't gunna happen.

JayW_1023
05-14-2010, 08:42 AM
Orlando in 5...Orlando is the superior team in every way.

JayW_1023
05-14-2010, 08:45 AM
Howard must not allow KG, Sheed, Davis and Perk to get into his head though...if Howard becomes a non-factor I see this going seven games. If Howard plays like he did vs. Atlanta...the Celtics will lose in 5.

Anon
05-14-2010, 08:48 AM
Howard must not allow KG, Sheed, Davis and Perk to get into his head though...if Howard becomes a non-factor I see this going seven games. If Howard plays like he did vs. Atlanta...the Celtics will lose in 5.

Completely agree. Howard needs to figure out that we do not need his offense to be great to win. If he plays dominant D and get 36-38 minutes a game we win easy. If he gets in foul trouble like the Bobcats series and is only playing half the game it will be much tougher for the Magic.

Mile High Champ
05-14-2010, 09:32 AM
Orlando in 5. This series will be over quickly. The depth and overall skill of the Magic far exceed that of the celtics. I don't see any reason to doubt the the magic in this series, they are going back to the finals.

69centers
05-14-2010, 09:40 AM
The Magic are not going to sweep the Celtics. If anyone is getting swept it's going to be Orlando. I'm picking Boston in 6 and I don't think it's going to even be close similar to the Cavs series. Celtics defense is too strong and Rondo can't be stopped by anyone on the Magic roster.

Cavs were 2nd best 3 point shooters in the league and we were able to control them. Thibodeau and Boston know what they have to do defensively against this Orlando team. The last time the Celtics were playing real well in the regular season, Xmas Day, we had a great defensive effort and beat the Magic in Orlando. That defensive presence is back.

We have better size than anyone Orlando has faced this post season (Sheed, KG, Perk) and have plenty of fouls to burn with Howard, including Big Baby.

My gut says Boston in five, but just to be a little safe, I'm going Boston in 6.

Also, great point above. No one on Orlando can stop Rondo. There isn't one guy on Orlando you can say that about. We've played the two best players and the best team in the East, and we'll be more than ready for revenge from last year on the Magic.

FEAR THE GREEN. WE'RE COMING!

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 09:42 AM
Hahah. This is turning out to be a cute thread.

69centers
05-14-2010, 09:44 AM
I havent been on here in a long time due to my pc being shut down, but....I dont know why no one is giving Nelson any credit! He was gone last year with an injury and he is on top of his game now. BTW Rondo is not he best pg left in the playoffs, its Nelson and what he brings to the team. No one on Boston, can defend him....Have to remember EVERYONE on the Magic has gotten better, and with the DEEPEST BENCH in the NBA (made up of OFFENSE and DEFENSE) Boston doesnt want it to go 7 games...Orlando can win the series in the 4 games or let boston hang around and take them in 6 like they did last year...Boston is a good team with great players, but they are old, they are slow and they cant run up and down the court with the Magic.

You've got to be kidding me. :bla::bs:

todu82
05-14-2010, 09:45 AM
Orlando in 6

Fireworld
05-14-2010, 09:47 AM
celtics in 7

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 09:51 AM
You've got to be kidding me. :bla::bs:

I have to agree. Nelson is in no way better than Rondo, other than his jumpshot, and his Free-throw %. Rondo is a better passer, can create at a level higher than Nelson's, and is pretty much carrying his team.

I'm a Magic fan obviously, and I know Jameer is doing wonderful things right now, but he's not better than Rondo, and that's simply looking through my pair of un-biased glasses.

BOSTON617
05-14-2010, 09:56 AM
Celtics baby

howard knows perk is one of the better defenders on him

rondo > nelson
allen = carter ( they both are so good when on)
pierce> barnes
kg > lewis (kg is just beasting)
perk < howard (but perk can cover him)

celtics bench > magic bench ( we are playing great even sheed!!!!!!!)

celtics in 6 not even close

BOSTON617
05-14-2010, 10:00 AM
Magic fans need to realize that they gave been facing irrelvent teams.... Celtics faced 4th seed and the 1st seed you guys faced teams who do not match up well with you the boston celtics match up the best with you guys it will be a battle..... Noone will win in 5 or 4

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 10:01 AM
Wow. Hahah. ;)

BOSTON617
05-14-2010, 10:20 AM
Wow. Hahah. ;)

LOL WOULD U LIKE TO MAKE A SIG BET THAT THE MAGIC WILL NOT WIN IN 4 OR 5 GAMES :rolleyes:

stealth33
05-14-2010, 10:22 AM
BTW Rondo is not he best pg left in the playoffs, its Nelson and what he brings to the team.

If we're talking PLAYOFFS and not this series, then let's not be silly.

1. Nash
2. Rondo
3. Nelson



254. Fisher

Raidaz4Life
05-14-2010, 10:23 AM
Orlando 5

Ragun
05-14-2010, 10:25 AM
orl in 6

stealth33
05-14-2010, 10:32 AM
Orlando in 6. The Celtics are looking strong but let's stop disrespecting the Magic. Anyone who actively follows the games knew that the Cavs were far from the team to beat...it was the Magic. This series is going to be pretty tight though, you can say the Magic weren't "tested", but come on...they did all they had to do and a hell of a lot more against the teams they were given. What else were they supposed to do exactly?

The Magic also have a lot more fight in them that the Cavs displayed. I never really saw any of the Cavs players really respond...the Cavs really didn't respond to the elimination game with much intensity or desperation...it was really the attitude that did them in more than match ups or talent. There will always be adversity in the playoffs, there will be games that can suck the wind out of you...like what the Cavs dealt to the Celtics in game 3. The difference was the Celtics moved past that mentally, and the Cavs failed to do the same.

The Magic have a top 5 player in the league who makes a living being able to stop a player who has penetrated the first layer of defense...he will severely hamper Rondo getting easy points. Perkins is going to have to do a number on Howard. I don't mean outperform him but bother him. If Dwight starts thinking about things too much or gets in foul trouble, he becomes a much less effective player. Besides that I really don't see too many other problems that Boston will present to Orlando. Keep Howard on the court and they should win in 5-6. If they can contain Howard, expect this to go 7 very tight games.

mikantsass
05-14-2010, 10:39 AM
I love the Celtics being the underdog again!!! C's in 7, they get their revenge from last year

stealth33
05-14-2010, 10:50 AM
So small confession, for the first time in my life I was rooting for the Celtics to beat the Cavs last series, and by far the most frustrating thing was watching Paul Pierce. I've never liked the dude's game very much....but it seems like its got worse from an attitude standpoint. Settling waaay too much for jumpers...being a bit of a black hole (not to the extent of say...Ben Gordon, but still bad). Even when he starts warming up and shooting well...it seems like the flow of the offense just stalls when he touches the ball.

I think he's going to have to be a big factor if the Celtics win this thing. Chances are Rondo isn't going to be as effective as he was last series...so I think the work load is going to fall to Pierce and KG. We all know Ray is going to pull through with some 3's but I think the C's are going to need to LEAN on PP and KG.

MTar786
05-14-2010, 10:50 AM
Celtics baby

howard knows perk is one of the better defenders on him

rondo > nelson
allen = carter ( they both are so good when on)
pierce> barnes
kg > lewis (kg is just beasting)
perk < howard (but perk can cover him)

celtics bench > magic bench ( we are playing great even sheed!!!!!!!)

celtics in 6 not even close

I totally agree with you on EVERYTHING you said.. but dont be SUCH a homer. orlando has the best bench in the league hands down.
i see boston in 6 though.. but thats only because i want to see LA and boston in the finals

BOSTON617
05-14-2010, 11:32 AM
I totally agree with you on EVERYTHING you said.. but dont be SUCH a homer. orlando has the best bench in the league hands down.
i see boston in 6 though.. but thats only because i want to see LA and boston in the finals

def not being a homer lol celtics bench is playing outstanding in the playofffs

look at tony allen, sheed , big baby thos 3 alone are putting up starters numbers i mean during the season ya orlando got that but playoffs celtics got the better bench

BOSTON617
05-14-2010, 11:41 AM
and has a celtic fan i think atl matches way better with the cavs and boston matches up way better against orl dont sleep on the celtics ppl

ZioAx
05-14-2010, 11:51 AM
Celtics in 5

-Big-Baby-
05-14-2010, 12:05 PM
Nelson<Rondo
Carter>Allen
Pietrus=Pierce now
Lewis=KG now
Howard>Celtics Bigs

Magic Bench>Celtics Bench

Orlando in 6

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm:

Just stop please.

Sox72
05-14-2010, 12:05 PM
Are you people serious? Not only is Orlando going to win this series, but Boston doesn't stand a chance.

Raph12
05-14-2010, 12:09 PM
Why don't you guys stop arguing and just wait for the first two games, a lot of times, those games decide the series.

Sox72
05-14-2010, 12:11 PM
Sounds about right.

You're talking about Boston right?

Did you honestly make a sig bet that Orlando wouldn't make it past the 2nd round? You suck.

King P
05-14-2010, 12:20 PM
I hope the Celtics don't get excited into thinking they are going to win the east after beating up on two 1-man shows. They are still an old raggedy team.

They have played two franchises with one superstar and no supporting cast. They are really not that good and will get curb stomped against the Magic.

Orlando in 5.

BOSTON617
05-14-2010, 12:22 PM
Did you honestly make a sig bet that Orlando wouldn't make it past the 2nd round? You suck.

ill make a sig bet with you right now that boston wins... all your doing is talkin trash like celitcs clearly proved they deserve to be in this series and they match up well agaisnt the magic.... i got no issue betting on the celtics because they have been doing great ill sig bet anyone here if they are so confident

*Superman*
05-14-2010, 12:24 PM
Magic in 5

Other picks:

Jalen Rose: Magic in 7
Abbott: Magic in 7
Adande: Magic in 5
Ford: Magic in 6
Avery Johnson: Magic in 7
Hollinger: Magic in 5
Sheridan: Magic in 7
Stein: Magic in 6
Thorpe: Magic in 6
Broussard: Celtics in 7
Legler: Celtics in 6

macc
05-14-2010, 12:30 PM
def not being a homer lol celtics bench is playing outstanding in the playofffs

look at tony allen, sheed , big baby thos 3 alone are putting up starters numbers i mean during the season ya orlando got that but playoffs celtics got the better bench



Did you really say the Boston bench is better than Orlando's bench? Hmmm where to start...

ok lets start with your back up pg.....oh wait he doesn't get any min...moving on

Sheed...did you just say the guy is playing great? His game consists of sitting at the 3 pt line, that's pretty much the extent of it. I'm soooo happy we didn't sign him and got Bass instead....just sayin....

Allen - I actually like his game but he reminds me of a poor mans Pietrus because he's athletic and plays good defense, but just doesn't have the overall game that MP does.

Big baby - He's a good bench player but you never know what you'll get for him and he's always committing bad fouls which keeps him out of alot of games.

Our bench consists of Jason Williams whos a great back up pg and runs the offense smoothly, unlike any player on your bench. When Rondo is not on the floor your offense runs extrememly stagenet.

Reddick has been solid and shoots 3's with the best of them. Plus his defense is underrated, well Boston fans should know that considering he basically shut down Ray Allen last year.

Anderson is our poor mans Rashard Lewis and is capable of lighting it up.

Bass can bang with anyone down low and has a great iso game.

Gortat - best backup c in the league.

In all honesty, it's not even close. Take off your homer glasses

bostncelts34
05-14-2010, 12:31 PM
Magic in 5

Other picks:

Jalen Rose: Magic in 7
Abbott: Magic in 7
Adande: Magic in 5
Ford: Magic in 6
Avery Johnson: Magic in 7
Hollinger: Magic in 5
Sheridan: Magic in 7
Stein: Magic in 6
Thorpe: Magic in 6
Broussard: Celtics in 7
Legler: Celtics in 6

jeez, you think a few more would have elarned their lesson from the CLE series :-p

I dont have any argument with people pickign the magic in 6 or 7. But picking them in 5? thats obsurd to me.

tonyd3b54
05-14-2010, 12:40 PM
im calling celtics in 6 because the matchups clearly favor boston. nelson cannot keep up with rondo and the magic dont have lebron james to put on him. carter is goin to be worn down trying to fight through a millions picks a game chasing ray allen everywhere. barnes can not cover pierce, every1 has pierce dead right now but pay no attention to the fact that he had the greatest athlete in the world guarding him for 6 games. the pf matchup i think will be a problem for the celtics on the defensive end cuz kg isnt as quick as lewis but on the offensive end this is like antwawn jamison all over again. finally perkins is probably the only man on the planet who can physically stand up and challenge howard. howard has said himself the perkins is the toughest guy to play against.

but to look at this from the magic side, ya nelson could have some pretty good games cuz rondo takes chances but besides him and rashard lewis i dont really see any1 who will go off in this series the celtics are not going to double howards cuz perkins is a beast defensively and that takes away their precious inside outside game

*Superman*
05-14-2010, 12:43 PM
jeez, you think a few more would have elarned their lesson from the CLE series :-p

I dont have any argument with people pickign the magic in 6 or 7. But picking them in 5? thats obsurd to me.

Well 23 other people agree with me so what can you do.

tdunk21
05-14-2010, 12:56 PM
dwight's magic in 7...celts will give them a hard time though

macc
05-14-2010, 12:59 PM
im calling celtics in 6 because the matchups clearly favor boston. nelson cannot keep up with rondo and the magic dont have lebron james to put on him. carter is goin to be worn down trying to fight through a millions picks a game chasing ray allen everywhere. barnes can not cover pierce, every1 has pierce dead right now but pay no attention to the fact that he had the greatest athlete in the world guarding him for 6 games. the pf matchup i think will be a problem for the celtics on the defensive end cuz kg isnt as quick as lewis but on the offensive end this is like antwawn jamison all over again. finally perkins is probably the only man on the planet who can physically stand up and challenge howard. howard has said himself the perkins is the toughest guy to play against.

but to look at this from the magic side, ya nelson could have some pretty good games cuz rondo takes chances but besides him and rashard lewis i dont really see any1 who will go off in this series the celtics are not going to double howards cuz perkins is a beast defensively and that takes away their precious inside outside game



You're right Nelson won't be able to keep up with Rondo, Rondo will blow right by Nelson and run into Dwight. I'm fine with that. How many of those floaters he had on Boston do you think he would of made on Howard? Theres a reason Rondo shoots 40% against Orlando.

If Carter gets tired chasing Ray Ray, then we'll sub in the Ray ray stopper in JJ Reddick (see 08-09 playoffs)

This year Lewis' offense has been more effective then Garnetts when the teams face each other, not only did Lewis avg more ppg but Garnett shot 34.8%. That's what happens when you're battling against Lewis/Howard.

Oh and we can't forget Perkins 4.25 ppg avg vs us. See Perkins plays good D on Howard but Howard takes Perkins little offense and turns it into no offense.

Pierce just isn't what he used to be. He settles for his top of the key jumper. Barnes is a great defender and will bother Pierce enough to make him earn everything he gets. He's going to have to rely on that jump shot because once again, Howard is behind Barnes waiting for him.

I just don't see how you can pick your team in this series. The ONLY edge I see your team having is with Rondo, and the majority of that edge is tamed by Howard.

In this series you're playing the #1 defensive team in the league making all your vets work that much harder to get theres. I see the games being closer in the beginning but I see Orlando pulling away at the end.

Agree or disagree thats fine. But I like our chances.

*Superman*
05-14-2010, 01:00 PM
You're right Nelson won't be able to keep up with Rondo, Rondo will blow right by Nelson and run into Dwight. I'm fine with that. How many of those floaters he had on Boston do you think he would of made on Howard? Theres a reason Rondo shoots 40% against Orlando.

If Carter gets tired chasing Ray Ray, then we'll sub in the Ray ray stopper in JJ Reddick (see 08-09 playoffs)

This year Lewis' offense has been more effective then Garnetts when the teams face each other, not only did Lewis avg more ppg but Garnett shot 34.8%. That's what happens when you're battling against Lewis/Howard.

Oh and we can't forget Perkins 4.25 ppg avg vs us. See Perkins plays good D on Howard but Howard takes Perkins little offense and turns it into no offense.

Pierce just isn't what he used to be. He settles for his top of the key jumper. Barnes is a great defender and will bother Pierce enough to make him earn everything he gets. He's going to have to rely on that jump shot because once again, Howard is behind Barnes waiting for him.

I just don't see how you can pick your team in this series. The ONLY edge I see your team having is with Rondo, and the majority of that edge is tamed by Howard.

In this series you're playing the #1 defensive team in the league making all your vets work that much harder to get theres. I see the games being closer in the beginning but I see Orlando pulling away at the end.

Agree or disagree thats fine. But I like our chances.

:clap:

rapjuicer06
05-14-2010, 01:01 PM
im calling celtics in 6 because the matchups clearly favor boston. nelson cannot keep up with rondo and the magic dont have lebron james to put on him. carter is goin to be worn down trying to fight through a millions picks a game chasing ray allen everywhere. barnes can not cover pierce, every1 has pierce dead right now but pay no attention to the fact that he had the greatest athlete in the world guarding him for 6 games. the pf matchup i think will be a problem for the celtics on the defensive end cuz kg isnt as quick as lewis but on the offensive end this is like antwawn jamison all over again. finally perkins is probably the only man on the planet who can physically stand up and challenge howard. howard has said himself the perkins is the toughest guy to play against.

but to look at this from the magic side, ya nelson could have some pretty good games cuz rondo takes chances but besides him and rashard lewis i dont really see any1 who will go off in this series the celtics are not going to double howards cuz perkins is a beast defensively and that takes away their precious inside outside game

i see it like this...nelson will guard allen. he's a lot quicker and can get threw screens a lot better than carter can. carter will guard pierce because lets face it, pierce is slower than molasis. and barnes will be on rondo. at least thats how i'd have it. rondo gives up 3-4 inches to barnes, barnes is a great defender and can slow rondo down. no one can stop rondo. all ray allen does is shoot the ball, and when he's on, he's on. but when he's off, he can't make anything. ray will not post up nelson so size doesn't matter at all there. carter and pierce will be a good match up. neither plays hardcore defense and both are scorers. lewis and garnett are offensive threats for sure, but garnett is not good at going out to the three point line and defending, but lewis always bodies people up in the post so that leaves the advantage to lewis there. now when it comes to howard and perk...howard can put up numbers on him, and perk is not a threat to do anything on offense which leaves howard to help out on garnett and rondo. so you have no clue what your talking about when you say boston is the favorite in the match ups...not even close bud, not even close....

BOSTON617
05-14-2010, 01:04 PM
Did you really say the Boston bench is better than Orlando's bench? Hmmm where to start...

ok lets start with your back up pg.....oh wait he doesn't get any min...moving on

Sheed...did you just say the guy is playing great? His game consists of sitting at the 3 pt line, that's pretty much the extent of it. I'm soooo happy we didn't sign him and got Bass instead....just sayin....

Allen - I actually like his game but he reminds me of a poor mans Pietrus because he's athletic and plays good defense, but just doesn't have the overall game that MP does.

Big baby - He's a good bench player but you never know what you'll get for him and he's always committing bad fouls which keeps him out of alot of games.

Our bench consists of Jason Williams whos a great back up pg and runs the offense smoothly, unlike any player on your bench. When Rondo is not on the floor your offense runs extrememly stagenet.

Reddick has been solid and shoots 3's with the best of them. Plus his defense is underrated, well Boston fans should know that considering he basically shut down Ray Allen last year.

Anderson is our poor mans Rashard Lewis and is capable of lighting it up.

Bass can bang with anyone down low and has a great iso game.

Gortat - best backup c in the league.

In all honesty, it's not even close. Take off your homer glasses


bro i just made it clear during the season the magic had the better season ok.... during the playoffs the celtic bench has beeen playing better not being a homer ar all :facepalm: im not saying bostin in 4 thats bein a homer not saying perk is gunna shut out howard that is bin a homer...im sayin a fact :facepalm:

Raph12
05-14-2010, 01:06 PM
ill make a sig bet with you right now that boston wins... all your doing is talkin trash like celitcs clearly proved they deserve to be in this series and they match up well agaisnt the magic.... i got no issue betting on the celtics because they have been doing great ill sig bet anyone here if they are so confident

I'll take that bet.

DitchDat
05-14-2010, 01:12 PM
Celtics in 7

We got Perk and Rasheed to contain Howard (maybe use Shelden for some fouls)
Rashard is a tough matchup for KG, agreed (Big Baby to help out here)
Rondo > Nelson (IMO)
We struggled with Turkoglu, but I don't think Ray will have a hard time getting points on Vince
I think Pierce will struggle a bit like in the Cleveland series (there he had to guard LeBron and now he will be guarded by Barnes, who cannot be underrated).

aside from Pietrus and The Hammer, I don't think Orlando's bench can be compared to Cleveland's. I think Boston will take this.

Kleonidas
05-14-2010, 01:12 PM
^Oh shi...money where your mouth is now.

BOSTON617
05-14-2010, 01:14 PM
I'll take that bet.

ok then what you wanna bet

Raph12
05-14-2010, 01:18 PM
ok then what you wanna bet

If Orlando wins you put "Orlando Magic >>> Boston Celtics" in your sig, if Boston wins, I'll put "Boston Celtics >>> Orlando Magic" in my sig, and it will stay there until tipoff for the 2010-11 season...

If you agree, put this in your sig now:
"Sig bet with Raph12 that Boston will beat Orlando in the ECFs"

Twins Fanatic
05-14-2010, 01:20 PM
Boston wins this one. They destroyed the hottest team going into the playoffs (Miami) and then embarrassed the best team in the league. Matchups favor the Celtics with the exception of Glen Perkins on Dwight Howard. Boston is playing better than they did at any point in the season, plus the 4 matchups between these teams were all close.

Raph12
05-14-2010, 01:22 PM
Boston wins this one. They destroyed the hottest team going into the playoffs (Miami) and then embarrassed the best team in the league. Matchups favor the Celtics with the exception of Glen Perkins on Dwight Howard. Boston is playing better than they did at any point in the season, plus the 4 matchups between these teams were all close.

The hottest team going into the playoffs was Orlando, not the 1-man show in Miami. We're undefeated in the playoffs, 41-8 in our last 49 games, 28-3 in our last 31 and have won 14 games straght.

ManRam
05-14-2010, 01:25 PM
I'm not picking against us this year. Last year I had my doubts, not any more.

We are a vastly better team, peaking at the right time, and full of determination. I think we win this series in 5 or 6, depending on the Perk/Dwight match up. (I stole that thought from Raphie-poo).

BOSTON617
05-14-2010, 01:26 PM
The hottest team going into the playoffs was Orlando, not the 1-man show in Miami. We're undefeated in the playoffs, 41-8 in our last 49 games, 28-3 in our last 31 and have won 14 games straght.

im telling you its not a fact but the celtics will do some damage if not win the east..... they match up well against the magic

macc
05-14-2010, 01:28 PM
bro i just made it clear during the season the magic had the better season ok.... during the playoffs the celtic bench has beeen playing better not being a homer ar all :facepalm: im not saying bostin in 4 thats bein a homer not saying perk is gunna shut out howard that is bin a homer...im sayin a fact :facepalm:

Ok so once again, tell me how Bostons bench is out performing Orlandos bench when Bostons bench is averaging 22 ppg while Orlandos bench is averaging 24.25 ppg in the playoffs. Notice, I'm not talking about regular season....so thats why I called you a homer, you're ONLY looking at your team in a comparison.

jim51990
05-14-2010, 01:30 PM
boston in 6 maybe 5

Raph12
05-14-2010, 01:33 PM
im telling you its not a fact the celtics will win but they will do some damage if not win the east..... they match up well against the magic

You can remove the quotation marks ("") from your sig lol.

I'm not saying we're gonna roll over you guys, you'll definitely make some noise, but I will bet Magic all year... I might go 4 for 4 in my sig bets this season.

Let the best team win. :cheers:

tdunk21
05-14-2010, 01:33 PM
ok then what you wanna bet

dude....i have seen raph12 win some sig bets....

Raph12
05-14-2010, 01:38 PM
dude....i have seen ralph12 win some sig bets....

Raph, for Raphael, but thanks anyways lol.

Anon
05-14-2010, 01:48 PM
Raph, for Raphael, but thanks anyways lol.

Why are people always calling you Ralph?

*Superman*
05-14-2010, 01:50 PM
Why are people always calling you Ralph?

Our eyes always throw in that imaginary "L". Those bastards. :rolleyes:

*Superman*
05-14-2010, 01:54 PM
You can remove the quotation marks ("") from your sig lol.

I'm not saying we're gonna roll over you guys, you'll definitely make some noise, but I will bet Magic all year... I might go 4 for 4 in my sig bets this season.

Let the best team win. :cheers:

All I do is win, win, win sig bets.

Jenceman
05-14-2010, 02:01 PM
That's accurate. Not sure why the facepalm. You need to brush up on the facts, and stop seeing through your biased goggles.

Are you serious?! Pietrus = Pierce? You'd have to be the dumbest mother****er on earth..... Oh wait...

tdunk21
05-14-2010, 02:02 PM
Raph, for Raphael, but thanks anyways lol.

edited

streetballa
05-14-2010, 02:08 PM
Who has the better defense:

Celtics: 90.9 PPG allowed,
1st round: allowed 43.5 % fg, 37.4 % 3pt
2nd round: allowed 44.9% fg, 27.6 % 3pt

Magic: 83.75 PPG allowed,
1st round: allowed 44.3% fg, 27.9% 3pt
2nd round: allowed 37.7% fg, 29.4% 3pt

Orlando looks like the best defense to me, but that is on paper. I have yet to really see anything that makes me feel Celtics are going to beat the Magic

magicdouglas
05-14-2010, 02:09 PM
Are you serious?! Pietrus = Pierce? You'd have to be the dumbest mother****er on earth..... Oh wait...

I'm waiting...

Jenceman
05-14-2010, 02:19 PM
You didn't get the joke...

Just let it go.

magicdouglas
05-14-2010, 02:20 PM
Who has the better defense:

Celtics: 90.9 PPG allowed,
1st round: allowed 43.5 % fg, 37.4 % 3pt
2nd round: allowed 44.9% fg, 27.6 % 3pt

Magic: 83.75 PPG allowed,
1st round: allowed 44.3% fg, 27.9% 3pt
2nd round: allowed 37.7% fg, 29.4% 3pt

Orlando looks like the best defense to me, but that is on paper. I have yet to really see anything that makes me feel Celtics are going to beat the Magic

Then try offense

Celtics playoffs:
ppg 98.36
fg 47.2%
3p 37.2%

Magic playoffs:
ppg 101
fg 48.8%
3p 38.4%

Orlando looks like the best offense to me, but that is on paper.

Jenceman
05-14-2010, 02:20 PM
Who has the better defense:

Celtics: 90.9 PPG allowed,
1st round: allowed 43.5 % fg, 37.4 % 3pt
2nd round: allowed 44.9% fg, 27.6 % 3pt

Magic: 83.75 PPG allowed,
1st round: allowed 44.3% fg, 27.9% 3pt
2nd round: allowed 37.7% fg, 29.4% 3pt

Orlando looks like the best defense to me, but that is on paper. I have yet to really see anything that makes me feel Celtics are going to beat the Magic

Orlando may have the better defense, but the stats you used are flawed. The Celtics faced the tougher opponents and it's too small a sample size.

streetballa
05-14-2010, 02:24 PM
Orlando may have the better defense, but the stats you used are flawed. The Celtics faced the tougher opponents and it's too small a sample size.

How they faced two separate one man teams?

The Miami Wade's

and the Cleveland Lebron's

At least Magic played TEAMS not individual players....

Either way, I will say the team with the DPOY and a trend in stats that appears to be great defense, is probably equal if not better to the Celtics in terms of defense. Not to mention Magic are trending to be the better offensive team also.

Edit: Also it could just be me but the Magic look like a more dominant version of the '04 Pistons

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 03:04 PM
Hahah. Boston617, You must be new around here. Either that, or you're Paul Pierce in disguise. Did you drink last night?

tonyd3b54
05-14-2010, 03:09 PM
delete please

tonyd3b54
05-14-2010, 03:26 PM
You're right Nelson won't be able to keep up with Rondo, Rondo will blow right by Nelson and run into Dwight. I'm fine with that. How many of those floaters he had on Boston do you think he would of made on Howard? Theres a reason Rondo shoots 40% against Orlando.

If Carter gets tired chasing Ray Ray, then we'll sub in the Ray ray stopper in JJ Reddick (see 08-09 playoffs)

This year Lewis' offense has been more effective then Garnetts when the teams face each other, not only did Lewis avg more ppg but Garnett shot 34.8%. That's what happens when you're battling against Lewis/Howard.

Oh and we can't forget Perkins 4.25 ppg avg vs us. See Perkins plays good D on Howard but Howard takes Perkins little offense and turns it into no offense.

Pierce just isn't what he used to be. He settles for his top of the key jumper. Barnes is a great defender and will bother Pierce enough to make him earn everything he gets. He's going to have to rely on that jump shot because once again, Howard is behind Barnes waiting for him.

I just don't see how you can pick your team in this series. The ONLY edge I see your team having is with Rondo, and the majority of that edge is tamed by Howard.

In this series you're playing the #1 defensive team in the league making all your vets work that much harder to get theres. I see the games being closer in the beginning but I see Orlando pulling away at the end.

Agree or disagree thats fine. But I like our chances.

wat u forget is rondo impacts the game in so many ways... this is wat makes him so great he doesnt need to score... rondo drives ok theres howard rotating over... wat about perkins open underneath? o ur guy rotated over? theres ray allen wide open there in the corner... howard also has no effect on rondos rebounding ability and his ability on the break... thats the great thing about rondo u cant stop him from impacting the game unless u keep him infront of u which no1 can do...

i also think all magic fans are putting WAY too much emphasis on the one brief period of defense reddick has ever played in his life, if reddick shuts him down again this series feel free to throw this in my face but im gonna say right now reddick will not stop ray allen.

finally yes the magic have a pretty good defense and thatll make things tougher... but wat about the celtics defense which has reemerge similarly to that 08 defense which was hailed as one of the best in league history? the magic played the hawks last series whos only semi good big is horford an hes not a great defensive presence like perk is. So the hawks had to be very aware of howard... the celtics dont do this... perk is gonna be straight up on howard the entire series, no help defense this takes away alot of the magics game and that is the three ball...

anyway all this said itll be a very close very tough series... my rose colored glasses want me to say celtics in 6 cuz my heart tells me they wont lose at home but ill say celts in 7

macc
05-14-2010, 03:37 PM
wat u forget is rondo impacts the game in so many ways... this is wat makes him so great he doesnt need to score... rondo drives ok theres howard rotating over... wat about perkins open underneath? o ur guy rotated over? theres ray allen wide open there in the corner... howard also has no effect on rondos rebounding ability and his ability on the break... thats the great thing about rondo u cant stop him from impacting the game unless u keep him infront of u which no1 can do...

i also think all magic fans are putting WAY too much emphasis on the one brief period of defense reddick has ever played in his life, if reddick shuts him down again this series feel free to throw this in my face but im gonna say right now reddick will not stop ray allen.

finally yes the magic have a pretty good defense and thatll make things tougher... but wat about the celtics defense which has reemerge similarly to that 08 defense which was hailed as one of the best in league history? the magic played the hawks last series whos only semi good big is horford an hes not a great defensive presence like perk is. So the hawks had to be very aware of howard... the celtics dont do this... perk is gonna be straight up on howard the entire series, no help defense this takes away alot of the magics game and that is the three ball...

anyway all this said itll be a very close very tough series... my rose colored glasses want me to say celtics in 6 cuz my heart tells me they wont lose at home but ill say celts in 7



Boston is similiar to Orlando with their ball movement. No one person beats you, both teams are patient and take what the defense gives them.

In any case, heres to a great series.

:cheers:

rapjuicer06
05-14-2010, 03:39 PM
wat u forget is rondo impacts the game in so many ways... this is wat makes him so great he doesnt need to score... rondo drives ok theres howard rotating over... wat about perkins open underneath? o ur guy rotated over? theres ray allen wide open there in the corner... howard also has no effect on rondos rebounding ability and his ability on the break... thats the great thing about rondo u cant stop him from impacting the game unless u keep him infront of u which no1 can do...

i also think all magic fans are putting WAY too much emphasis on the one brief period of defense reddick has ever played in his life, if reddick shuts him down again this series feel free to throw this in my face but im gonna say right now reddick will not stop ray allen.

finally yes the magic have a pretty good defense and thatll make things tougher... but wat about the celtics defense which has reemerge similarly to that 08 defense which was hailed as one of the best in league history? the magic played the hawks last series whos only semi good big is horford an hes not a great defensive presence like perk is. So the hawks had to be very aware of howard... the celtics dont do this... perk is gonna be straight up on howard the entire series, no help defense this takes away alot of the magics game and that is the three ball...

anyway all this said itll be a very close very tough series... my rose colored glasses want me to say celtics in 6 cuz my heart tells me they wont lose at home but ill say celts in 7

orlando has the best rotating defense in the league, every player is quick, and gets to their spots very quick. the celtics (other than rondo) are VERY SLOW. boston can not rotate to guard all of orlando's shooters, and as much as you say perk will be one on one, i bet at least 2 or 3 guys sag onto dwight when he gets the ball. every team does that, even the cavs did it with shaq guarding him. no one guards dwight one on one. orlando will whoop the c's *** because the c's are too slow. rondo is a one man fast break, but orlando is the best transition defense and half court set defense in the league. orlando in 5


oooh and its reDick, one D

JordansBulls
05-14-2010, 04:22 PM
This series comes down to Vince vs Pierce

heathonater
05-14-2010, 05:15 PM
i think this is going to be a really hard fought series. i think boston wins in 7, they just look like they are back to playing dominating defense. with that said, dont think rondo will be getting many open layups this series. kind of going back and forth right now.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 06:11 PM
This series comes down to Vince vs Pierce

I disagree, I think it comes down to whether Perkins can guard Howard 1-1. If Perk can, the Celts win, if Howard demands double teams (opening up 3 point shooters) the Magic win.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2010, 06:14 PM
i think this is going to be a really hard fought series. i think boston wins in 7, they just look like they are back to playing dominating defense. with that said, dont think rondo will be getting many open layups this series. kind of going back and forth right now.

Yup, me too. I think this is going to be a great series. I do see the Magic losing game 1 though, I think all this rest hurts them, especially considering they haven't played competitive basketball in a month (the hawks didn't provide any competition, they were a doormat).

hugepatsfan
05-14-2010, 06:18 PM
This is the first test for either team IMO.

MIA is a one man team. BOS would have swept them, but Wade went off in game 4. Great players can do that.

CLE, like MIA, managed one win because Lebron went off in game 3 (they outplayed BOS in game 1 and won as a team). They laid down and when you look back, the Celts really dominated the series.

CHA is a great defensive team, but they have 0 offense. They couldn't do anything and were the worst team in the playoffs, IMO.

ATL laid down like dogs. ORL vs. ATL was a lot like BOS vs. CLE except that Lebron can carry a team unlike any Hawks so CLE squeaked in a couple wins.

I see a great series - ORL in 7 (unfortunately).

marlinsfan24
05-14-2010, 06:19 PM
Magic in 6

Kakaroach
05-14-2010, 06:40 PM
Celtics in 6 or Magic in 7.

I'll pick the Celtics though, their back to form.

Mc Lovin
05-14-2010, 07:03 PM
Magic in 5

Other picks:

Jalen Rose: Magic in 7
Abbott: Magic in 7
Adande: Magic in 5
Ford: Magic in 6
Avery Johnson: Magic in 7
Hollinger: Magic in 5
Sheridan: Magic in 7
Stein: Magic in 6
Thorpe: Magic in 6
Broussard: Celtics in 7
Legler: Celtics in 6


Most of those guys picked Cleveland over the Celtics too.

td0tsfinest
05-14-2010, 07:18 PM
I say Magic in 7.

Mc Lovin
05-14-2010, 07:20 PM
This series comes down to Vince vs Pierce

No it doesn't. The Magic better hope not because if it comes down to that the Magic might get swept.

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 07:33 PM
Are you serious?! Pietrus = Pierce? You'd have to be the dumbest mother****er on earth..... Oh wait...

Besides that..
I was talking in general, it was accurate. His facepalm made me think he thought EVERY comparison was wrong.

Obviously Pietrus doesn't equate to Pierce.

Cool down with that language, kid. ;)

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 07:35 PM
No it doesn't. The Magic better hope not because if it comes down to that the Magic might get swept.

Hahah. You sir, are one, HUGE idiot.

Mc Lovin
05-14-2010, 07:47 PM
Hahah. You sir, are one, HUGE idiot.

I can't wait til Sunday when Orlando gets beat and you go into hibernation because you talked so much **** that you won't be able to show your goofy face in here again.

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 07:55 PM
Hahah. You seem very confident. Likewise. I'll show my face in here, even if we lose. "We'll see come June." ;)

Kleonidas
05-14-2010, 08:13 PM
The Magic own the C's Mclovin so just stfu already. The Magic closed the real Boston Garden down for good with a C's loss. The Magic will shut down your season again this year, just like last.

mikantsass
05-14-2010, 08:14 PM
Most of those guys picked Cleveland over the Celtics too.

Correction, all of those guys picked Cleveland

ZioAx
05-14-2010, 08:15 PM
I hope the Celtics don't get excited into thinking they are going to win the east after beating up on two 1-man shows. They are still an old raggedy team.

They have played two franchises with one superstar and no supporting cast. They are really not that good and will get curb stomped against the Magic.

Orlando in 5.

You mad Boston is better than your joke of a franchise? Cavs had the best record in basketball, funny how you act like they were scrubs.

"curb stomped" ....you are such a little thug, watch out guys!

IversonIsKrazy
05-14-2010, 08:39 PM
I got Magic in 7. Im worried if Magic will be ready or not, they haven't had a true test in the playoffs yet. Vince needs to step up, and Nelson will need to keep playing like he has because the Celtics will keep Dwight very very limited. But I am really hoping to NOT see Celtics in the Finals and have my buddies bragging about it, so I gotta go with Magic in 7.

CowboysKB24
05-14-2010, 08:47 PM
I am lost on this series. It is going to be a good one. I got the Magic in 7 though. I think they will somehow beat the red hot Celtics.

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 09:08 PM
Red hot Celtics? What about Red hot Magic? 8-0 in the Playoffs, and 14 Straight. 27 of the last 30? Just wondering. Don't take it personally.

dtmagnet
05-14-2010, 09:16 PM
As impressive as the Celts knocking off the Cavs was, gotta go with the Magic.

Mc Lovin
05-14-2010, 09:39 PM
Hahah. You seem very confident. Likewise. I'll show my face in here, even if we lose. "We'll see come June." ;)

You keep saying we'll see come June. The Magic aren't making it til June. Their season will be over before June. If for some reason they do get by the Celtics, which I do not see happening but stranger things have happened, the Lakers are going to put a hurting on them for a second straight year.

DieselPowered32
05-14-2010, 09:43 PM
I don't like the Celtics but boy it was good B'Ball to watch. There execution in everything they did was methodical and ruthless if they bring it against the Magic i don't see why they can't win, the Celtics believe and that's hard to beat out of a champion

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 09:48 PM
You keep saying we'll see come June. The Magic aren't making it til June. Their season will be over before June. If for some reason they do get by the Celtics, which I do not see happening but stranger things have happened, the Lakers are going to put a hurting on them for a second straight year.

Well, I'll chant once more, "We'll see come June." ;)

I love the hate, it's great fuel for the soul.

bigsams50
05-14-2010, 09:49 PM
This is the one series i've been wanting to watch all season long.

tjlipford
05-14-2010, 09:55 PM
I think that the Magic may pull this series out. Every game will be tough and physical but Orlando is better than what Cleveland was and it wont be as easy. Orlando has more heart and talent as well.

Now Boston looks like they are back on that championship ****. U cant count them out. I just feel that Orlando will win in game 7. It will be a fun series to watch

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 09:56 PM
Sorry bout' your men TjFlipFord. Musta' been tough seeing them go down. I mean that with no disrespect.

rocky4104
05-14-2010, 10:02 PM
hope its the magic

tjlipford
05-14-2010, 10:04 PM
Sorry bout' your men TjFlipFord. Musta' been tough seeing them go down. I mean that with no disrespect.

Haha, U always been a funny dude. I dont know a TjFlipFord. What did I flip?

KmB728
05-14-2010, 10:08 PM
Celtics in 6

The magic might be 8-0 in the playoffs but they beat a Charlotte team which matched up terribly with the Magic, and a young Hawks team which looked like they didnt give a ****

excuse me radiantshot but your magic are not unstopable

and whoever :laugh2: :laugh2: at the thought of Perk guarding Dwight, look at the stats he guards Dwight better than anyone in the league

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 10:21 PM
Hahah. You guys crack me up. Do you know what a Television is? It would be helpful if you got one of those.

And TJ, haha, yeah, you flip like crazy! ;) Sounds better, so there's your new nickname, Flip.

tjlipford
05-14-2010, 10:30 PM
Hahah. You guys crack me up. Do you know what a Television is? It would be helpful if you got one of those.

And TJ, haha, yeah, you flip like crazy! ;) Sounds better, so there's your new nickname, Flip.

How did I flip? I am from Cleveland, Im a Cavs fan and I thought we would do a lot better than we did in the playoffs.

Im a fan of the NBA and not just the Cavs. I did feel like we can win a championship as anyone who is a fan of a contending team should. We lost and everyone seen that. I never thought it would be easy against the Celtics or the Magic.

I never said that Boston was my favorite team now. That would be flip flopping and I would be called a fairweather fan. U always made me laugh by your posts. Always talking out the side of your ***. :facepalm::facepalm:

*Superman*
05-14-2010, 10:31 PM
How did I flip? I am from Cleveland, Im a Cavs fan and I thought we would do a lot better than we did in the playoffs.

Im a fan of the NBA and not just the Cavs. I did feel like we can win a championship as anyone who is a fan of a contending team should. We lost and everyone seen that. I never thought it would be easy against the Celtics or the Magic.

I never said that Boston was my favorite team now. That would be flip flopping and I would be called a fairweather fan. U always made me laugh by your posts. Always talking out the side of your ***. :facepalm::facepalm:

He's crazy just ignore him.

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 10:39 PM
How did I flip? I am from Cleveland, Im a Cavs fan and I thought we would do a lot better than we did in the playoffs.

Im a fan of the NBA and not just the Cavs. I did feel like we can win a championship as anyone who is a fan of a contending team should. We lost and everyone seen that. I never thought it would be easy against the Celtics or the Magic.

I never said that Boston was my favorite team now. That would be flip flopping and I would be called a fairweather fan. U always made me laugh by your posts. Always talking out the side of your ***. :facepalm::facepalm:

I don't think you understood what I was saying. I wasn't even sure of what I was saying, so how could you start insulting me? You said something like, "Oh, you cracked me up calling me Flip." so I called you Flip. I never said You Flipped on your team; I just thought the name Flip was cool. Haha. I think you misunderstood, but you basically just insulted me, without me doing/saying anything. Take the facepalm's and the cussing back now.

tjlipford
05-14-2010, 10:39 PM
He's crazy just ignore him.

I see, he always says the craziest **** on here

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 10:40 PM
Haha, you're going to feel like an idiot when you go back and read my last post.

tjlipford
05-14-2010, 11:00 PM
Haha, you're going to feel like an idiot when you go back and read my last post.

Honestly man I just read your last post and I dont see where I would feel like an idiot. U dont even know what u mean. How would I feel like an idiot.

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 11:03 PM
:facepalm:

Look, I was kidding around with the "Flip" statement.
Your name is "Tjlipford" and I accidentally mistook the "lip" in your name, for, "Flip." That's why I called you Flip that first time, my mistake. Didn't know you wouldn't realize it..

tjlipford
05-14-2010, 11:05 PM
:facepalm:

Look, I was kidding around with the "Flip" statement.
Your name is "Tjlipford" and I accidentally mistook the "lip" in your name, for, "Flip." That's why I called you Flip that first time, my mistake. Didn't know you wouldn't realize it..

Aight whatever u say man

Sportfan
05-14-2010, 11:06 PM
Red hot Celtics? What about Red hot Magic? 8-0 in the Playoffs, and 14 Straight. 27 of the last 30? Just wondering. Don't take it personally.
Gotta go with the Celtics.Homer or not :P, Defense is where it's at. Celtics have 3 guys who are top 5 defenders at their positions. Nelson will NOT score 20 ppg like he has been this playoffs. Dwight Howard is going to have tough time going up against Perkins, the 3rd-4th best post defender center in the league. The big problem I see for the Celtics is Shard. It's going to be tough defending him on the perimeter with his size, especially if he gets hot.


I personally think, PP and Allen will have HUGE series. Vince Carter is easily one of the worst defenders in the league. I haven't seen enough of Pietrus, but he's no Shane Battier. Hopefully they can contain VC and Shard.

RadiantShot
05-14-2010, 11:07 PM
I just want to know where everyone was, and especially everyone's confidence; Two or Three Weeks ago. ;)

Raph12
05-14-2010, 11:11 PM
So much hype before Game 1 lol, you guys need to take a step back and just chill lol. Just wait for Game 1 and 2, we'll see how they matchup and which way it will likely go.

JordansBulls
05-14-2010, 11:17 PM
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=369535&page=11&highlight=Kevin+Garnett+guarantees+championship

69centers
05-14-2010, 11:36 PM
If we're talking PLAYOFFS and not this series, then let's not be silly.

1. Nash
2. Rondo
3. Nelson



254. Fisher

This is bogus right here. Nash? They just put up a sports writers poll on ESPN today and Rondo ranked number 1 out of all players, not just point guards, as the leading MVP of this year's playoffs.