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G-Funk
05-07-2010, 05:30 PM
I think so, he's already a defensive force. All he needs is about 5 more touches

ManRam
05-07-2010, 05:32 PM
His offensive repertoire, while vastly improved, is not something that is conducive to 30 point scoring. I think it would be more detrimental than not.

Kakaroach
05-07-2010, 05:35 PM
I don't think he is quite good enough to get 30 PPG. And even then, I would still give the edge to LeBron but Dwight would be right there.

G-Funk
05-07-2010, 05:41 PM
He's still young and can work on his game. If he does, he will be a better defender than anyone in the league and a more efficient scorer than any top player in the league.

RadiantShot
05-07-2010, 05:43 PM
If Dwight even averaged 25-27 PPG, and a rebound more, he'd be the best player in the game currently, and it's not even debatable. He's already ranked up there with the elite, in Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Wade, Melo, etc., if not better than a few of those in terms of productivity.

Add an offensive repertoire, and Dwight Howard becomes the most dominant player we've seen in years, as an all-around player.

Hawkeye15
05-07-2010, 05:45 PM
If Dwight shot 78% from the line, he would be the best player in the NBA. I don't think he would ever average 30, but if he went for 26/14 with the same efficiency and defense, he would be the top dog.

ManningToTyree
05-07-2010, 05:47 PM
Yes but at this point in his career I don't believe he is capable

ManRam
05-07-2010, 05:49 PM
Another thing that is problematic is his insanely high TO rate. 5 more touches could easily be 2-3 more turnovers. FTs also hurt too, obviously.

The Magic, as a team, don't need Dwight to be a 30 point scorer, nor would they be better if he was...unless he magically turned into Shaq on offense.

Toenail Clipper
05-07-2010, 05:51 PM
If he played like Shaq, yes. Too bad he isn't the real Superman ;)

Raph12
05-07-2010, 05:54 PM
Another thing that is problematic is his insanely high TO rate. 5 more touches could easily be 2-3 more turnovers. FTs also hurt too, obviously.

The Magic, as a team, don't need Dwight to be a 30 point scorer, nor would they be better if he was...unless he magically turned into Shaq on offense.

So you think he turns the ball over 40-60% of the time he touches it?...

Dwight doesn't need to be a 30ppg scorer, 22-25ppg on 55-60% is a realistic goal for the next 2-3 years. If he got his FT shooting up to 65-70%, he'd already be in that range without anymore touches. It's on him and how bad he really wants it, he's proven he could shoot FTs, but consistency is still the key.

AirCanada15ORL
05-07-2010, 05:54 PM
If Dwight averaged 30 ppg, yes he'd be the best player in the world.

That's unlikely to happen, maybe in a few years though.
Or if the Magic didnt have a score first pg. That's not an attack on Nelson, Nelson has been incredible this playoffs, and has been scoring great, Im just saying it takes away from Dwights production, that's not a huge deal atm. I think having an array of scorers like Carter Nelson, Shard, Pietrus makes the Magic better.

Raps18-19 Champ
05-07-2010, 06:00 PM
30,14 and 3?

That's Shaq like numbers.

Imagine how dangerous the league would be if there was a 30,14 and 3 player and a 30,8 and 8 player.

RadiantShot
05-07-2010, 06:01 PM
See. Here's a few funny things. Dwight doesn't need to be a 30 Points a game scorer, like ManRam mentioned. What he's doing on the defensive end is WAY productive enough. He's also still so young. He doesn't get many touches. His free-throws are horrendous. Turn those into positives for Dwight's games, and you have one scary, SCARY basketball player, not mentioning the defense.

AI4MVP
05-07-2010, 06:04 PM
i thikn its already debatable that if u had to build around a player the dwight howard is right up there with lebron and durant

LEBRON_KING_23
05-07-2010, 06:24 PM
Hed be the best center thats bout it. lebron is the best player till he retires, I dont know why n e one would think otherwise.

And lol at Dwight scoring 30 ppg, hes a robot on offense.

G-Funk
05-07-2010, 06:27 PM
good point hawkeye

SteveNash
05-07-2010, 06:34 PM
Dwight would need a lot more than 5 more touches a game to average 30 points.

His team would probably be worse, if anything he should shoot less.

basketfan4life
05-07-2010, 09:44 PM
if anything he should shoot less.
you gotta be kidding me.

slack_justin
05-07-2010, 09:53 PM
lebron king , ur not allowed to comment on anything if u put lebron in your name. get off his nuts, DAMN!
also if howard averaged 25pts with what he's a;ready doing he WOULD be the best in the world.

Sadds The Gr8
05-07-2010, 11:44 PM
Would Bosh be the best in the league if he averaged 4 BPG?
Would Rose be the best if he averaged 12 APG?
Would Ronnie Brewer be the best defender if he averaged 4 SPG?
Would Joe Johnson be the best player if he averaged 31ppg?

Same old pointless logic....this can be asked about any player in the league.

BlazingInferno
05-08-2010, 12:21 AM
The Magic offense is run through Nelson, VC, Lewis, and next year T-Mac. Hard to get 30 PPG when the other 4 guys all look to shoot first

Lakersfan2483
05-08-2010, 12:39 AM
If Dwight had David Robinson or Hakeem's offensive ability, he would be the no. 1 guy. He just doesn't have the skill set to be a 30 point a game scorer or even a 28 point a game scorer.

jdmd3
05-08-2010, 01:33 AM
Yeah, he'd be the best but those extra points better come from an improved freethrow % (around 75%) and lesser turnovers, not from an increase of shot attempts.

cr00zi3
05-08-2010, 01:43 AM
Dwight howard will forever have the "everybody wants you" stats...

ldc62
05-08-2010, 03:57 AM
Would I be the best player in the world if I avg. 30ppg??? It would definitely be debatable. I don't see the point of this thread? Anyone who averages that many points will be considered as one of the best.

J-Relo
05-08-2010, 04:00 AM
why p[eople can't write normal name instead of some garbage nickname

JiffyMix88
05-08-2010, 04:14 AM
If Dwight even averaged 25-27 PPG, and a rebound more, he'd be the best player in the game currently, and it's not even debatable. He's already ranked up there with the elite, in Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Wade, Melo, etc., if not better than a few of those in terms of productivity.

Add an offensive repertoire, and Dwight Howard becomes the most dominant player we've seen in years, as an all-around player.

one more rebound really wouldnt make that much more of a difference i feel he already is damn near the best because he gets doubled everytime and he always knows where to go with the ball when hes trapped. so maybe if he made a few more buckets and brought his ppg up he would be considered the best player in other ppls eyes but he is the best in my eyes

JiffyMix88
05-08-2010, 04:17 AM
Hed be the best center thats bout it. lebron is the best player till he retires, I dont know why n e one would think otherwise.

And lol at Dwight scoring 30 ppg, hes a robot on offense.

i hope lebron breaks his arm or gets shot cause if theres no lebron what would you have to say in ur comments?

ManRam
05-08-2010, 08:49 AM
Would Bosh be the best in the league if he averaged 4 BPG?
Would Rose be the best if he averaged 12 APG?
Would Ronnie Brewer be the best defender if he averaged 4 SPG?
Would Joe Johnson be the best player if he averaged 31ppg?

Same old pointless logic....this can be asked about any player in the league.

As dumb as this sounds, it's true.

Would Dwight really be a better player if he did get 5 more shots a game? No, he'd be the same player...and there's an obvious reason why he doesn't.

Thread fail at its finest.

Sadds The Gr8
05-08-2010, 09:13 AM
As dumb as this sounds, it's true.

Would Dwight really be a better player if he did get 5 more shots a game? No, he'd be the same player...and there's an obvious reason why he doesn't.

Thread fail at its finest.

lol thx for agreeing with my horrible take on the thread:p

BALLER71
05-08-2010, 09:29 AM
As dumb as this sounds, it's true.

Would Dwight really be a better player if he did get 5 more shots a game? No, he'd be the same player...and there's an obvious reason why he doesn't.

Thread fail at its finest.

Exactly.

Raph12
05-08-2010, 11:01 AM
If Dwight can play like he is in the Semis for a full season (25ppg-14rpg-3bpg) on about 55-60FG%, he'd definitely challenge Lebron for some MVP awards... But like I said before, if he made 65-70% on his FTs, his numbers would already be there, it's all on him.

RadiantShot
05-08-2010, 12:17 PM
ManRam, great to know you're always there to back us up in a thread. :rolleyes:

LEBRON_KING_23
05-08-2010, 01:18 PM
uh this is just as stupid as saying if Lebron averaged 12 rebounds and 12 assists as well.
Too bad he almost does

BALLER71
05-08-2010, 01:27 PM
ManRam, great to know you're always there to back us up in a thread. :rolleyes:

Awww. So sad.
:(

Maybe he's not a homer and is actually being realistic. :shrug: