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RaiderLakersA's
05-06-2010, 05:39 PM
The ALL NBA First and Second teams get all of the acclaim, but let's switch it up a bit and take a look at the 3rd squad. Everything else being equal, and without knowing who the coach is, could a team made up this starting 5 win an NBA title?



The All-NBA third team includes Atlanta's Joe Johnson and Portland's Brandon Roy at guard, San Antonio's Tim Duncan and the Lakers' Pau Gasol at forward, and Milwaukee's Andrew Bogut at center.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5168924


By the way, apologies in advance if this thread rightfully belongs in the Comparisons forum.

Baller1
05-06-2010, 05:43 PM
Seriously? They would easily win a championship. They lack a true PG, but other than that they are perfectly balanced all the way around.

Avenged
05-06-2010, 05:44 PM
No point guards and way too many bigs to be starting. 3 bigs operating in the post? wouldn't work no matter how great this team is.

anpmp
05-06-2010, 06:02 PM
Seriously? They would easily win a championship. They lack a true PG, but other than that they are perfectly balanced all the way around.

I wouldn't say they'd easily win a title. They definitely are not perfectly balanced all the way around. Reasons:

1. They have no natural spot-up 3 point shooters.

2. While their interior defense would probably be excellent, they would lack good transition defense from being too slow (like the problem the Lakers face when they play Gasol, Bynum and Odom together - it doesn't work well even though Odom is mobile and can shoot the three).

3. Gasol and Duncan play the same position, and considering they already have Bogut, the post would be way too crowded on offense.

4. The collective talent of this group would not be enough to win a championship if their bench sucks. The NBA 1st team on the other hand would win a championship even if their bench sucks (their collective talent is far superior and more well-balanced).

kswissdaf
05-06-2010, 06:11 PM
Is that a joke. No NBA team can guard that team

hugepatsfan
05-06-2010, 06:13 PM
They have no SFs or PGs. That's the team you get on a video game fantasy draft - take the best players and then make trades to get the right positions.

ko8e24
05-06-2010, 06:29 PM
Bogut would be the 6th man. All they need is a PG.

PG-Mike James

SG-Brandon Roy

SF-Joe Johnson

PF-Pau Gasol

C-Tim Duncan

Sixth Man-Andrew Bogut

Verbal Christ
05-06-2010, 07:05 PM
why didnt chris bosh make even the 3rd team? he's supposed to be soooooo good :eyebrow:

RaptorsFanatic
05-06-2010, 07:26 PM
Of course, they CAN win a title. But it is not a given that they would. Hence, the skepticism. It's a good thing YOU are not putting the US Basketball team together, otherwise their attitude would be "we are the top 5 players in the world, **** chemistry".

Nah. I wouldn't say **** chemistry for every situation, only this one because honestly this is an unstoppable team if they were together in the league today.

anpmp
05-06-2010, 07:37 PM
Nah. I wouldn't say **** chemistry for every situation, only this one because honestly this is an unstoppable team if they were together in the league today.

This team would not be unstoppable if they had a bad bench. Also, consider the top 5 players for the Lakers, for instance...
Bynum/Gasol/Odom/Artest/Bryant vs Bogut/Gasol/Duncan/Johnson/Roy.

Is there much of a difference in the collective talent between these two teams? In fact, the Lakers team would probably be better defensively, if not offensively. Despite the Lakers having such a talented top 5, they have many weaknesses and suffer from offensive chemistry issues despite their individual offensive brilliance. Is it not possible that the All-NBA 3rd team could face similar chemistry issues?

Hence, I wouldn't consider the All-NBA 3rd team unstoppable against the current set of squads that are playing today. If you gave them a good bench, then perhaps I will say they are unstoppable.

dodie53
05-06-2010, 08:30 PM
they can win.

that line up is strong.

JordansBulls
05-06-2010, 08:31 PM
The ALL NBA First and Second teams get all of the acclaim, but let's switch it up a bit and take a look at the 3rd squad. Everything else being equal, and without knowing who the coach is, could a team made up this starting 5 win an NBA title?




http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5168924


By the way, apologies in advance if this thread rightfully belongs in the Comparisons forum.

Pretty handily actually.

cmellofan15
05-06-2010, 08:32 PM
no they would never win a NBA championship.

Sportfan
05-06-2010, 08:48 PM
No because except for Roy, none of these guys can play 48 minutes. You need a bench

cmellofan15
05-06-2010, 08:51 PM
^ exactly

1-800-STFU
05-06-2010, 08:57 PM
They'd have to play a zone all game Duncan or Gasol cannot guard SF's

PC
05-06-2010, 09:00 PM
Bogut would be the 6th man. All they need is a PG.

PG-Mike James

SG-Brandon Roy

SF-Joe Johnson

PF-Pau Gasol

C-Tim Duncan

Sixth Man-Andrew Bogut

Wrong. There's no way Mike James would be on the All NBA third team, he would be on the All NBA first team...

defender4m
05-06-2010, 09:02 PM
you need some good bench players. Every good team has those bench players that come in and play hard and get their job done.

Baller1
05-06-2010, 09:11 PM
This team would not be unstoppable if they had a bad bench. Also, consider the top 5 players for the Lakers, for instance...
Bynum/Gasol/Odom/Artest/Bryant vs Bogut/Gasol/Duncan/Johnson/Roy.

Is there much of a difference in the collective talent between these two teams? In fact, the Lakers team would probably be better defensively, if not offensively. Despite the Lakers having such a talented top 5, they have many weaknesses and suffer from offensive chemistry issues despite their individual offensive brilliance. Is it not possible that the All-NBA 3rd team could face similar chemistry issues?

Hence, I wouldn't consider the All-NBA 3rd team unstoppable against the current set of squads that are playing today. If you gave them a good bench, then perhaps I will say they are unstoppable.

:laugh2:

BKLYNNYRNYKNYY
05-06-2010, 09:36 PM
i think if there was an all 4th team they could win the championship

Lakersfan2483
05-06-2010, 09:37 PM
The ALL NBA First and Second teams get all of the acclaim, but let's switch it up a bit and take a look at the 3rd squad. Everything else being equal, and without knowing who the coach is, could a team made up this starting 5 win an NBA title?




http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5168924


By the way, apologies in advance if this thread rightfully belongs in the Comparisons forum.

They would definitely win a championship as they have defensive anchors in Duncan and Bogut. They have a go to guy in Brandon Roy and a fascilitator/closer in Joe Johnson. They also have the passing ability/high bball IQ and low post scoring of Pau Gasol. All of those guys have an extremely high bball IQ and are good enough on the defensive end to win a title.

*Obviously the team would have to have a few role players to fill in at small forward and come off the bench.

JasonJohnHorn
05-06-2010, 09:45 PM
They are missing a point guard, but with Duncan, Gasol and Bogut in the front... it would be pretty easy to dominant the front court, they have three guys that could defend any center in the league and two of the best wing players in the leauge. All they need is a half-way decent point guard, like an Andre Miller or a player of similar standing.

cambovenzi
05-06-2010, 10:52 PM
Pretty easily.

They could call up smush parker to be their PG and still win easy.

The Panch
05-07-2010, 12:27 AM
I'll take the team with players not on the All NBA teams.

PG- Rajon Rondo
SG- Gerald Wallace
SF- Danny Granger
PF- Chris Bosh
C- Yao

This team would beat the third team, maybe even the second team. Its an all around team, they can play defense inside and out, and score from the inside out, just an all around team.

Raph12
05-07-2010, 12:56 AM
Yes, easily... Of course they'll need a few defensive minded role players (ie: Barnes/Dudley/Battier) and a solid PG, but they'd win about 2-5 rings.

Rentzias
05-07-2010, 11:10 AM
No because except for Roy, none of these guys can play 48 minutes. You need a bench

Even with a $#!t bench, that team would win a championship. Look at the 1994 Houston Rockets; they played Cassell of the bench, and had an extremely shaky lineup, and still won a No-Jordan championship.

Height issues? Earlier post was right, LA already runs 3 guys 6'11" and up; also, see 85-86 Houston team with Olajuwon (7'0") and Sampson (7'4")...Finals team.

3 pt shooting? Get Kyle Korver or whoever specialist scrub (Steve Kerr). Also, Joe Johnson has made 119+ 3pters per year for six straight years.

You also forget he ran point before Mike Bibby was in town.

If the Celtics can win it with basically 3.5 stars (Big 3 + Rondo), how can THIS team not win it, considering Duncan > Garnett, Bogut > Perkins, with two All-Stars at G, and Pau Gasol to spare?

zachsaints52
05-07-2010, 11:21 AM
Even with a $#!t bench, that team would win a championship. Look at the 1994 Houston Rockets; they played Cassell of the bench, and had an extremely shaky lineup, and still won a No-Jordan championship.

Height issues? Earlier post was right, LA already runs 3 guys 6'11" and up; also, see 85-86 Houston team with Olajuwon (7'0") and Sampson (7'4")...Finals team.

3 pt shooting? Get Kyle Korver or whoever specialist scrub (Steve Kerr). Also, Joe Johnson has made 119+ 3pters per year for six straight years.

You also forget he ran point before Mike Bibby was in town.

If the Celtics can win it with basically 3.5 stars (Big 3 + Rondo), how can THIS team not win it, considering Duncan > Garnett, Bogut > Perkins, with two All-Stars at G, and Pau Gasol to spare?

I was gonna say Korver!

mikantsass
05-07-2010, 11:36 AM
There is no SF (Roy can handle the ball at the point and be good enough) so I dont know who would guard the LeBrons, Carmelos and Durants of the league. But I think their interior size makes up for it and they could easily win a title (based strictly on starting lineups).

PrettyBoyJ
05-07-2010, 11:48 AM
take out one of the bigs and replace him with young pg like rondo u got rings for maybe 2or 3 seasons

J-Relo
05-07-2010, 11:49 AM
great C-PF rotation... though they would need someone to play pg/SF, it'd be hard to all of them stay on court at the same time...

ShockerArt
05-07-2010, 12:17 PM
That team would definitely win a title. I think Roy and Johnson could hold down the PG position, especially since this team will be a low-post-dominated, half-court team. The bench should include a 3-pt shooter, decent PG and a guy or two that can defend SG/SF types.

ballpd05
05-07-2010, 01:58 PM
They would need something else. I think they can have a 3 who just shoots 3's and they'd be okay. You cannot start Tim Duncan, Pau Gasol, and Andrew Bogut. Joe and Roy both bring the ball up alot so I do not think that will be a problem, but that 3 spot definitely will.

Rentzias
05-07-2010, 03:39 PM
This team also needs a Jack Haley/Cliff Levingston benchwarmer who waves a towel around and "energizes" his team. Without it, they can't win.

SteveNash
05-07-2010, 04:10 PM
They'd be lucky to make the playoffs.

zambo4president
05-07-2010, 04:53 PM
They would **** **** up