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*Superman*
04-30-2010, 03:15 PM
Sources say the Rockets' primary free-agent target is still Chris Bosh.

Houston would have to arrange a sign-and-trade deal with Toronto.

The Raptors are reportedly intrigued by Jordan Hill, whom the Rockets acquired from New York on trade deadline day in February. The Knicks made the deal to clear their second maximum-salary contract slot, which could be offered to Bosh.


Yet itís believed that the Raptors, if Bosh indeed proves willing to join the Rockets via sign-and-trade, will try to foist Hedo Turkoglu on Houston as part of the deal. Would the Rockets be willing to take on Turkogluís contract ($43.8 million over the next four years) and surrender, say, Trevor Ariza in return to clinch Boshís arrival? The cost of adding Bosh along with Turkoglu would likely be prohibitive for the Rockets, but Toronto certainly figures to try.

Dump Hedo/Bosh and get Ariza/Hill/someone else?
Rockets would look pretty damn good.

tdunk21
04-30-2010, 03:19 PM
am sure cuban will also pursue bosh

-Kobe24-TJ19-
04-30-2010, 03:21 PM
west gets stronger and east weaker again:facepalm:

JNA17
04-30-2010, 03:22 PM
PG: Aaron Brooks
SG: Shane Battier
SF: Hedo Turq
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Yao Ming

pretty beast. At least according the OP's trade idea

Hellcrooner
04-30-2010, 03:25 PM
Kevin Martin and HIll for Bosh

Brooks, Llul,Ariza, Bosh, Ming with Lowry , Battier and Scola as main benchmen

Thats scary.


Oh and search the Web Money himself has an absolute hard on for Llul and has come like 5 ot 6 times this year to watch him and has tried to convice him to make the jump fr next season.

He is a talented Manager so ....

leftymo
04-30-2010, 03:26 PM
If that were to happen, I'd try to re-acquire Ariza from Toronto to the Lakeshow. Not to start, but he'd be tremendous off the bench. Walton/Ammo are taking up 10 million and are both useless. LA would also get back some of the youth it lost by acquiring artest instead of ariza.

JNA17
04-30-2010, 03:27 PM
i forgot about martin. him at starting SG and Battier as sixth man. Even more beast then i thought lmao

Rego247
04-30-2010, 03:31 PM
am sure cuban will also pursue bosh

possibly but i recall bosh said a while ago he wouldnt want to play there. but who knows maybe his attitude may have changed after our season ended.

Jetsguy
04-30-2010, 03:35 PM
I am a lifelong Knick fan and this is halarious to me. We dump future picks and a lottery pick in Hill for a chance at a player like Bosh when we could have possibly had him in a S&T...LOL

thescore53
04-30-2010, 03:42 PM
I am a lifelong Knick fan and this is halarious to me. We dump future picks and a lottery pick in Hill for a chance at a player like Bosh when we could have possibly had him in a S&T...LOL

yea but they also offer ariza and prob draft picks, and i dont think they want to send bosh to the same division so he can come back and score 30 11 four times a year on us

ldc62
04-30-2010, 03:47 PM
Just as long as the Rockets keep the KNICKS 2 first rounders (one is a swap).

fadedmario
04-30-2010, 03:47 PM
The Rockets would be a powerhouse if they got Hedo and Bosh

thescore53
04-30-2010, 03:49 PM
The Rockets would be a powerhouse if they got Hedo and Bosh

dont get too excited about hedo

Hellcrooner
04-30-2010, 03:51 PM
dont get too excited about hedo

specially since adding hedo means Brooks game will fall to hell because the Diva needs to handle the ball all the time.

thescore53
04-30-2010, 03:53 PM
if this is true rockets please compete and yao please stay healthy, i really want bosh to do well, a first round exit isnt enough

Sly Guy
04-30-2010, 03:53 PM
dont get too excited about hedo

my thoughts exactly.

thescore53
04-30-2010, 03:54 PM
specially since adding hedo means Brooks game will fall to hell because the Diva needs to handle the ball all the time.

rick adleman isnt shy to sit hedo's 50 million *** if he doesnt compete

abe_froman
04-30-2010, 03:54 PM
that would just make ny look even worse with that deal

b_russ
04-30-2010, 04:02 PM
I am a lifelong Knick fan and this is halarious to me. We dump future picks and a lottery pick in Hill for a chance at a player like Bosh when we could have possibly had him in a S&T...LOL

Maybe D'Antoni should have advertised him more instead of letting him ride the pine.

Gibby
04-30-2010, 04:04 PM
Hill+Ariza for Bosh+Hedo. I would do that because we dump hedo and get a good young player in Hill. But salaries dont match. Even If you Add Jefferies, slaries still dont match. Maybe scola needs to be apart of it in a S&T

Jetsguy
04-30-2010, 04:05 PM
yea but they also offer ariza and prob draft picks, and i dont think they want to send bosh to the same division so he can come back and score 30 11 four times a year on us

good point..probably true

wileyisTOFU
04-30-2010, 04:05 PM
Get it done Morey...

McAllen Tx
04-30-2010, 04:06 PM
I wouldnt read too much into this just yet. Its way too early. I think the Raps are just trying to get the bidding war started. And to let teams know upfront to be ready to take Hedo off their hands.

wileyisTOFU
04-30-2010, 04:06 PM
but no Hedo, thats a deal breaker i would hope for morey

Jetsguy
04-30-2010, 04:06 PM
Hill+Ariza for Bosh+Hedo. I would do that because we dump hedo and get a good young player in Hill. But salaries dont match. Even If you Add Jefferies, slaries still dont match. Maybe scola needs to be apart of it in a S&T

Do salaries have to match in a S&T?

D Roses Bulls
04-30-2010, 04:07 PM
Dump Hedo/Bosh and get Ariza/Hill/someone else?
Rockets would look pretty damn good.

this all came from ESPN insider. i dont believe half the crap they say anyways. i know bosh is from texas, but i just dont see it happening. bosh will either go to miami or chicago

Hawkeye15
04-30-2010, 04:11 PM
If Martin/Hill get Bosh, it isnt even fair. And then with the 13th pick, Morey will draft a chicken nugget that will contribute

thescore53
04-30-2010, 04:12 PM
this all came from ESPN insider. i dont believe half the crap they say anyways. i know bosh is from texas, but i just dont see it happening. bosh will either go to miami or chicago

actually he can land anywhere we dont know yet, bosh for bynum deal could happen that would be second on my list to the houston deal

thescore53
04-30-2010, 04:13 PM
If Martin/Hill get Bosh, it isnt even fair. And then with the 13th pick, Morey will draft a chicken nugget that will contribute

i think they need to give us their picks also

wileyisTOFU
04-30-2010, 04:18 PM
i think they need to give us their picks also

no dude, you want the knick's picks

thescore53
04-30-2010, 04:21 PM
no dude, you want the knick's picks

what are those is it this years and what position,

stevefrancis
04-30-2010, 04:21 PM
i think the raps and bosh are gonna wait to see who and if anyone goes to the knicks. lets say they don't get a superstar player the raptors would do the houston trade if they get the knicks pick since they'll probably suck again.

pebloemer
04-30-2010, 04:21 PM
Do salaries have to match in a S&T?

Same rules as any tade except the players "signed" in the trade have to sign off on the deal. So yes, salaries need to match unless the team taking on more salary is beneath the cap enough to do so.

thescore53
04-30-2010, 04:22 PM
but why do they want bosh so bad, i heard they wanted to trade for him earlier despite him being a ufa

ManOnFire
04-30-2010, 04:27 PM
this all came from ESPN insider. i dont believe half the crap they say anyways. i know bosh is from texas, but i just dont see it happening. bosh will either go to miami or chicago

Has Bosh expressed interest in miami or chicago or is that pure speculation at this point?

thescore53
04-30-2010, 04:31 PM
Has Bosh expressed interest in miami or chicago or is that pure speculation at this point?

bosh actually never mentioned any team, it seems like he's playing games now he wants keep people guessing,

heatking
04-30-2010, 04:32 PM
I dont think Bosh could win with that lineup. I think he would much rather join Wade in Miami, or another star in NY.

ManOnFire
04-30-2010, 04:36 PM
Bosh, wade and current heat lineup i doubt would do better than Bosh, yao and rockets

Pierzynski4Prez
04-30-2010, 04:36 PM
Do salaries have to match in a S&T?

Total salaries have to be within 10% of each other if the teams are taken over the cap, which in this case they both are.

Blackjack24
04-30-2010, 04:36 PM
If Yao ever recovered, it would be an interesting tandem. But I'm assuming that Yao is out forever.

Bosh with the remainder of the Rockets doesn't seem nearly as intimidating.

Raidaz4Life
04-30-2010, 04:39 PM
Why would the Raptors even want Hill? I thought they wanted a center.

thescore53
04-30-2010, 04:40 PM
[QUOTE=ManOnFire;13162036]Bosh, wade and current heat lineup i doubt would do better than Bosh, yao and rockets[/QUOTE

dont mind him he thinks every a star point guard will land on their laps

ballpd05
04-30-2010, 04:46 PM
If they did this I'd start: Brooks, Martin, Battier, Bosh, Yao and bring Hedo off the bench. That way he can handle the ball with the second team if he wants.

Hawkeye15
04-30-2010, 04:46 PM
i think they need to give us their picks also

well, they have a bunch, so that probably wouldnt be an issue.

SAiNi_21
04-30-2010, 04:46 PM
If the rockets don't want hedo's contract what about calderon, we could include him in the deal instead and get kyle lowry in return. Hes still fairly young and plays hard nosed defence and would be great off the bench allowing us to start jack.

Something like ...

Rockets get:
Chris Bosh
Jose Calderon

Raptors get:
Trevor Ariza
Kyle Lowry
Jordon Hill

ldc62
04-30-2010, 04:56 PM
specially since adding hedo means Brooks game will fall to hell because the Diva needs to handle the ball all the time.

Brooks is a great spot up shooter... thats what he did when Yao played. Dump it into Yao then pass out to wide open guys. Also Rick Adelman is a much better coach than Traino... and at the NBA level that matters a lot.

ldc62
04-30-2010, 05:00 PM
I dont think Bosh could win with that lineup. I think he would much rather join Wade in Miami, or another star in NY.

Wade, Bosh and scrubs vs Yao, Bosh and a bunch of quality players left over after the deal... I wonder who Bosh would rather go to... You seriously think Bosh is an idiot?

Also Jose Calderon could potentially be a good player in the Rocket's system. Still like Lowry and Brooks better than him tho.

pippsux
04-30-2010, 05:08 PM
am sure cuban will also pursue bosh

Cuban's specialty is to go after who the rockets want, boy am I happy the Mavs got bounced. I do not like him, as for Dirk.......RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! leave if you can, force a trade, it ain't happening in Dallas.

Master Mind
04-30-2010, 05:09 PM
Doesn't Chris Bosh have to agree to a sign and trade?

Rockets Fanatic
04-30-2010, 05:49 PM
Scola would likely be included

Raptors
Luis Scola
Trevor Ariza
Jordan Hill
Jared Jeffries
1st Round Pick

Rockets
Chris Bosh
Hedo Turkoglu

Raptors:
Calderon (or Jack if Calderon is traded)
Derozan
Ariza
Scola
Bargnani

Rockets:
Brooks, Lowry
Martin, Chase
Battier, Hedo
Bosh, Chuck Hayes
Yao, Brad Miller

homestarunner93
04-30-2010, 05:54 PM
Kevin Martin and HIll for Bosh

Brooks, Llul,Ariza, Bosh, Ming with Lowry , Battier and Scola as main benchmen

Thats scary.


Oh and search the Web Money himself has an absolute hard on for Llul and has come like 5 ot 6 times this year to watch him and has tried to convice him to make the jump fr next season.

He is a talented Manager so ....

No, you have a hard-on for Llull.

OrderOfCook
04-30-2010, 05:55 PM
1) I think that 30 teams will pursue Bosh this summer.
2) Bosh will submit a list of teams that he would be willing to go to, he has not done that yet, and the Rockets may not be on it.

ldc62
04-30-2010, 06:12 PM
^ WTF submit a list? More like just tell BC where he would rather go and if he doesn't pick Houston then hes a liar because he said he just cares about winning and going to the rockets will give him that.

kikeyanez
04-30-2010, 06:27 PM
jorden hill needs playing time!!!! do not trade for bosh ....keep hill

Hellcrooner
04-30-2010, 06:30 PM
No, you have a hard-on for Llull.

http://www.thedreamshake.com/2010/4/21/1435294/daryl-morey-is-not-your-executive

http://www.thedreamshake.com/2010/2/5/1296983/conversation-and-talk-with-daryl


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/327912-daryl-morey-a-real-man-of-genius


http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=185518&page=1

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=184643

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=184304

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=184671


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129727

:rolleyes:

shinjirod
04-30-2010, 06:53 PM
Well, Bosh just tweeted asking his fans where he should play next season and why. Apparently he's open to leaving Toronto.

D Roses Bulls
04-30-2010, 07:22 PM
Has Bosh expressed interest in miami or chicago or is that pure speculation at this point?

actually for the past two years i have heard chicago was his first destination. family members and close friends have been saying its his first choice and he had a video last summer talking about how much fun it would be to play with rose. for miami, he is always talking about how he loves the city and he is always vacationing in miami and it seems like i heard he even has a home there as well.

D Roses Bulls
04-30-2010, 07:24 PM
actually he can land anywhere we dont know yet, bosh for bynum deal could happen that would be second on my list to the houston deal

true, but in the end its his choice where he wants to go. he has said he doesn't want to be a second option. so i dont know how the laker deal would work out and if it were the lakers i would not take on bynum, but go after gasol instead. houston..... i dont know, i mean im assuming they resign yao so again he woud be a second option to yao so i dont know how that would work out as well.

Raph12
04-30-2010, 07:33 PM
If the Rockets get Bosh, I'd like to see them trade Scola, no point of limitting a legit starter to about 12mpg off the bench... Scola for Bass!!!

thescore53
04-30-2010, 07:44 PM
If the rockets don't want hedo's contract what about calderon, we could include him in the deal instead and get kyle lowry in return. Hes still fairly young and plays hard nosed defence and would be great off the bench allowing us to start jack.

Something like ...

Rockets get:
Chris Bosh
Jose Calderon

Raptors get:
Trevor Ariza
Kyle Lowry
Jordon Hill

this sounds 100 times better but i really hate hedo's mug

D Roses Bulls
04-30-2010, 07:44 PM
If the Rockets get Bosh, I'd like to see them trade Scola, no point of limitting a legit starter to about 12mpg off the bench... Scola for Bass!!!

i'd be all for that. scola on the magic would be just wow

thescore53
04-30-2010, 07:57 PM
true, but in the end its his choice where he wants to go. he has said he doesn't want to be a second option. so i dont know how the laker deal would work out and if it were the lakers i would not take on bynum, but go after gasol instead. houston..... i dont know, i mean im assuming they resign yao so again he woud be a second option to yao so i dont know how that would work out as well.

he was asked about playing second fiddle he said it doesnt matter and started to talk about the kobe gasol thing

ryder78c
04-30-2010, 07:58 PM
wont happen dumb move for rockets getting hedo And Bosh wont sign & trade anyway he wants his own option

thescore53
04-30-2010, 07:59 PM
actually for the past two years i have heard chicago was his first destination. family members and close friends have been saying its his first choice and he had a video last summer talking about how much fun it would be to play with rose. for miami, he is always talking about how he loves the city and he is always vacationing in miami and it seems like i heard he even has a home there as well.

source, if he said that then there would be no discussion he would be in Chicago

JC_
04-30-2010, 08:14 PM
The Rockets would be a powerhouse if they got Hedo and Bosh

If I was Bosh I wouldn't want hedo to be coming with me to a new team.

thescore53
04-30-2010, 08:16 PM
you guys see bosh's twtter, he askes should i stay or go lol, so he's staying or goin big development lol

blah-blah
04-30-2010, 08:17 PM
Chris Bosh Twitter "Been wanting to ask. Where should I go next season and why?" hes gone for sure cya bosh ull always be a raptor considering u look like one

Trevor Ariza
04-30-2010, 08:20 PM
As long as I stay..

thescore53
04-30-2010, 08:21 PM
Chris Bosh Twitter "Been wanting to ask. Where should I go next season and why?" hes gone for sure cya bosh ull always be a raptor considering u look like one

update

Ok... Let me rephrase the question. Should I stay or should I go?


so at least he's considering returning

Miltown34
04-30-2010, 08:25 PM
west gets stronger and east weaker again:facepalm:

I see what your saying, but they didn't make the playoffs so it doesn't mean as much...plus the Nets, Chicago, Miami, and Milwaukee will all probably be better

Miltown34
04-30-2010, 08:26 PM
update

Ok... Let me rephrase the question. Should I stay or should I go?


so at least he's considering returning

Why the hell is he asking people....seems like he must really want 2 leave if it's on his mind and I guess he wants fans opinions

blah-blah
04-30-2010, 08:27 PM
update

Ok... Let me rephrase the question. Should I stay or should I go?


so at least he's considering returning

or hes just saying that because everyones saying so ur gone?

thescore53
04-30-2010, 08:38 PM
Lol i see trevor ariza is in the room, so what you think about all this lol

D Roses Bulls
04-30-2010, 09:17 PM
he was asked about playing second fiddle he said it doesnt matter and started to talk about the kobe gasol thing

just what I have been hearing through different media outlets, ill try and find the articles. but we'll see

astrosmaniac
04-30-2010, 09:35 PM
without a doubt the rockets would jump on hill/ariza/and 2 1st round picks (or the right to swap with the knicks) for hedo and bosh. hedo is a better 3 point shooter than either battier or ariza, and hes a better fit in houston's system than he was in the raptor's system

JerzeyFresh
04-30-2010, 09:54 PM
i think Ariza is way better then Hedo if the work it out without giving up Ariza and no Hedo there stacked

PG:Brooks
SG:Ariza
SF:Battier
PF:Bosh
C:Yao
6th man:Martin

ldc62
04-30-2010, 10:23 PM
ANything but Hedo... please!!! I hate his guts after thinking he could help the Raptors get 50 wins. I don't want him to ruin another one of my teams.

Fire&Ice2&33
04-30-2010, 10:55 PM
I would like Bosh,not Turk!

Yao,Bosh,Battier,Martin,Brooks

thescore53
04-30-2010, 11:06 PM
I would like Bosh,not Turk!

Yao,Bosh,Battier,Martin,Brooks

too bad you get hedo no givese backse

rockets-fan
04-30-2010, 11:12 PM
As long as I stay..

are u ariza or wat lol

smith&wesson
04-30-2010, 11:18 PM
kevin martin, trevor ariza for bosh & turk

thescore53
04-30-2010, 11:22 PM
As long as I stay..

come on you'll love it in Toronto

HeirCanada
04-30-2010, 11:38 PM
Trevor Ariza didn't want to come to Toronto last off-season (and probably still doesn't) and he tried to punch DeRozan in the back of his head.

...But he's still better than Hedo.

saintdrew
04-30-2010, 11:56 PM
Ok can someone explain something for me?

You can still execute a "sign-in-and-trade" with a player who has a expiring contract??? for example Chris Bosh who will be a free agent this summer???

Can someone just explain to me the whole sign in and trade issue???

AntwanN21
05-01-2010, 12:02 AM
Ok can someone explain something for me?

You can still execute a "sign-in-and-trade" with a player who has a expiring contract??? for example Chris Bosh who will be a free agent this summer???

Can someone just explain to me the whole sign in and trade issue???

Simply, Bosh agress on a contract which will be the Max contract. He signs with the raptors and then is traded to the team of his choice. He ultimately gets the say in where he wants to go. He signs the contract knowing where he will get traded and who he will get traded for. Im pretty sure the other team must match contracts as well.

So example: Raptors sing Bosh to Max 6 years, 100 Million(guessing) then they trade him for players in return

AntwanN21
05-01-2010, 12:04 AM
Rockets get:
Chris Bosh
Jose Calderon

Raptors get:
Trevor Ariza
Kyle Lowry
Jordon Hill

swap picks and im in

RocketsRule
05-01-2010, 12:05 AM
I'm fine with giving up Ariza, but taking on Hedo? :puke:

Don't really like the sound of that.

thescore53
05-01-2010, 12:15 AM
I'm fine with giving up Ariza, but taking on Hedo? :puke:

Don't really like the sound of that.

too bad

Mr. Net32
05-01-2010, 12:46 AM
If only the Raptors had a choice in this matter.

smuffins353
05-01-2010, 12:53 AM
im sorry but if the rox get CB4 and hedo (who played under Adelman in Sac-town)

game over sorry...we will be better than the lakers

im straight wit CB4 but i think if we dont land him its gonna be AL baby
MAYNNN

pg-Brooks
sg-Martin
sf-Ariza
pf-Jefferson
c-Yao

best backcourt and front court in the NBA period

wileyisTOFU
05-01-2010, 12:57 AM
too bad

Get over it, hes leaving

saintdrew
05-01-2010, 01:03 AM
CP3 & CB4....

I like the sound of that...

David West sign in and trade for Chris Bosh...make it happen

thescore53
05-01-2010, 08:18 AM
Get over it, hes leaving

did i say he was staying , i said too bad you have to take hedo with you, btw dont get to excited im pretty sure yao gets injured in the first few games

thescore53
05-01-2010, 08:19 AM
CP3 & CB4....

I like the sound of that...

David West sign in and trade for Chris Bosh...make it happen

though that would be sick i dont think bosh wants to get mugged everytime he leaves the arena

astrosmaniac
05-01-2010, 08:30 AM
if we have to take hedo, you can forget about getting lowry or martin. if we have to take that horrible contract, you'll get a lot less talent in return (which will be true in any deal you make)

thescore53
05-01-2010, 08:36 AM
if we have to take hedo, you can forget about getting lowry or martin. if we have to take that horrible contract, you'll get a lot less talent in return (which will be true in any deal you make)

idc i hate hedo more

FairWeatherFan?
05-01-2010, 09:08 AM
If toronto is looking to package Hedo with Bosh, I can only think of three teams with owners that would be willing to do it. New York, Dallas, Cleveland

still1ballin
05-01-2010, 09:10 AM
west gets stronger and east weaker again:facepalm:

I know man!:mad: The west is tough already, lets now add another elite theam

fredv
05-01-2010, 09:28 AM
Kevin Martin and HIll for Bosh

Brooks, Llul,Ariza, Bosh, Ming with Lowry , Battier and Scola as main benchmen

Thats scary.


Oh and search the Web Money himself has an absolute hard on for Llul and has come like 5 ot 6 times this year to watch him and has tried to convice him to make the jump fr next season.

He is a talented Manager so ....

From what i've heard the Raps want Hill and Llull (who I think is pretty damn good). Should probably add battier or Ariza. Probably throw the 14th this year in there aswell (the guy we draft). I'm not excited by Hedo though, but I think Morey can figure it out.
I find it hilarious that he takes NY's "trash" and turns it into gold. Because either way, Hill is pretty exciting to watch.

Brooks
Martin
Hedo/Battier
Bosh
Yao

raptor fan
05-01-2010, 09:32 AM
if we have to take hedo, you can forget about getting lowry or martin. if we have to take that horrible contract, you'll get a lot less talent in return (which will be true in any deal you make)

yeah, that is what we are expecting. This deal seems fair:

Toronto trades: Chris Bosh and Hedo Turkoglu
Toronto gets: Jordan Hill, Trevor Ariza, Jared Jeffries, Luis Scola and 14th pick

You don't give up lowry, martin, or any of the future 1st rounders from the knicks.

I would probably send scola to the thunder for their their first rounders (#21, #26) and their second rounder (#32).

Move Calderon to the lakers for vujacic, farmar and #58.

saintdrew
05-01-2010, 12:19 PM
though that would be sick i dont think bosh wants to get mugged everytime he leaves the arena


I don't think you've been to New Orleans lately...:facepalm:

Wizard of O's
05-01-2010, 12:50 PM
Scola would likely be included

Raptors
Luis Scola
Trevor Ariza
Jordan Hill
Jared Jeffries
1st Round Pick

Rockets
Chris Bosh
Hedo Turkoglu

Raptors:
Calderon (or Jack if Calderon is traded)
Derozan
Ariza
Scola
Bargnani

Rockets:
Brooks, Lowry
Martin, Chase
Battier, Hedo
Bosh, Chuck Hayes
Yao, Brad Miller

Rockets aren't giving up BOTH Scola and Hill, one or the other

Sadds The Gr8
05-01-2010, 12:56 PM
Raps interested in Jordan Hill? K let's try to make him a Bosh jr.

Sadds The Gr8
05-01-2010, 12:59 PM
I've said it many times before, but in the Raps forum.

I think if any deal happens with Raps and Rockets, it will be:

Bosh + Turk OR Calderon

for

Hill OR Scola, Lowry, an expiring contract, and a 2nd rounder.

Jamiecballer
05-01-2010, 01:04 PM
Why would the Raptors even want Hill? I thought they wanted a center.

Thank you! I can't believe it took 45 responses for somebody to ask such an obvious question. Why on earth would we want another PF in return?

DayDreamz
05-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Thank you! I can't believe it took 45 responses for somebody to ask such an obvious question. Why on earth would we want another PF in return?

:facepalm: thats what i was thinking. I dunno how hill plays like. But we need a center. I don't mind taking there draft picks tho

Sadds The Gr8
05-01-2010, 01:09 PM
Thank you! I can't believe it took 45 responses for somebody to ask such an obvious question. Why on earth would we want another PF in return?

I dunno maybe because Houston HAS NO CENTERS. Did u see who started at C all year for them? Chuck Hayes...a 6'6 undersized PF...If we get Lowry in a S&T with the Rockets, we'll more than likely draft a Centre.

wileyisTOFU
05-01-2010, 01:18 PM
Yeah well good centers are kinda hard to come by buddy

Sadds The Gr8
05-01-2010, 01:25 PM
Yeah well good centers are kinda hard to come by buddy

I'm not saying Hayes sucks or anything, I'm just answering those people asking why the Raps aren't targeting any Centers from Houston in return for Bosh...and that's because other than Yao, they have none. And don't even talk about that Andersen guy...

FOBolous
05-01-2010, 01:34 PM
did i say he was staying , i said too bad you have to take hedo with you, btw dont get to excited im pretty sure yao gets injured in the first few games

I actually don't mind Hedo. I personally think Hedo will be a good fit in Houston. Houston's all about constant montion, cuts, and screens with a focus on Yao on the inside. I think Hedo with his shooting and passing skills fits in perfectly with the way our offense is run.

Gibby23
05-01-2010, 01:41 PM
Hedo is an Adelman player from the Sac days. Adelman will know how to use him.

DRE'-MAC
05-01-2010, 01:43 PM
Battier, Jeffries, Hill, 2010 1st round pick, Knicks 2011 1st round pick-->Chris Bosh

AntwanN21
05-01-2010, 01:51 PM
Lowry is free agent right? So if he were in the deal it would be a sign and trade? How much do you guys think he will make next year?

slapnutz69
05-01-2010, 01:54 PM
time for us to let CB4 go, he's not the one to lead us to the promise land too soft, to brittle not worthy of max $$, dont get me wrong i love the guy but the last few seasons are unacceptable with the team we had and how weak the east is, missing the playoffs is a complete joke....Bosh in T.O = fail, time for B.C to do what is nesessary

Raps18-19 Champ
05-01-2010, 02:02 PM
Bosh, Belinelli, Rasho, Evans and Turkoglu for Yao, Hill, Martin and Battier.

C-Yao, Amir, Whiteside(Draft)
PF-Bargnani, Hill, (Part of MLE)
SF-Battier, Weems, Wright
SG-Martin, Derozan, (Part of MLE)
PG-Jack, Calderon, Banks

C-Scola, Hayes, Rasho, Anderson
PF-Bosh, Jeffries, Evans
SF-Turkoglu,(Part of MLE)
SG-Ariza, Budinger, Belinelli
PG-Brooks, Lowry

ldc62
05-01-2010, 02:04 PM
Bosh, Belinelli, Rasho, Evans and Turkoglu for Yao, Hill, Martin and Battier.

C-Yao, Amir, Whiteside(Draft)
PF-Bargnani, Hill, (Part of MLE)
SF-Battier, Weems, Wright
SG-Martin, Derozan, (Part of MLE)
PG-Jack, Calderon, Banks

C-Scola, Hayes, Rasho, Anderson
PF-Bosh, Jeffries, Evans
SF-Turkoglu,(Part of MLE)
SG-Ariza, Budinger, Belinelli
PG-Brooks, Lowry

LOLOLOL Yea because Daryl Morey is a ******? Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment Ltd. would have no problem going over into the tax if they get Yao... they would be making sooo much in endoursements. Which is why Houston won't trade Yao. Also a healthy Yao is > Bosh, Belinelli, Rasho, Evans. How would adding Hill, Battier and Martin be fair? Typical Raptors fan trade proposal (not baiting since Im a fan myself).

ldc62
05-01-2010, 02:05 PM
Lowry is free agent right? So if he were in the deal it would be a sign and trade? How much do you guys think he will make next year?

About as much as Jack. Probably around the same, but Lowry is a better player.

ldc62
05-01-2010, 02:06 PM
I dunno maybe because Houston HAS NO CENTERS. Did u see who started at C all year for them? Chuck Hayes...a 6'6 undersized PF...If we get Lowry in a S&T with the Rockets, we'll more than likely draft a Centre.

You know whats sad about that? 6'6 and he plays much tougher and is a better rebounder than Bargs.... I wouldn't mind seeing Chuck as a Raptor next year because he is an amazing passer at center too.

AntwanN21
05-01-2010, 02:08 PM
so he'll make around 5 mill which is great value for a point guard. Ive been a fan for a while, wuld love to see him in a raps uni

thescore53
05-01-2010, 02:12 PM
I actually don't mind Hedo. I personally think Hedo will be a good fit in Houston. Houston's all about constant montion, cuts, and screens with a focus on Yao on the inside. I think Hedo with his shooting and passing skills fits in perfectly with the way our offense is run.

yea lets go with that

astrosmaniac
05-01-2010, 02:18 PM
yea lets go with that

he fits well in adelmen's system

Raps18-19 Champ
05-01-2010, 02:19 PM
LOLOLOL Yea because Daryl Morey is a ******? Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment Ltd. would have no problem going over into the tax if they get Yao... they would be making sooo much in endoursements. Which is why Houston won't trade Yao. Also a healthy Yao is > Bosh, Belinelli, Rasho, Evans. How would adding Hill, Battier and Martin be fair? Typical Raptors fan trade proposal (not baiting since Im a fan myself).

Let a man dream.

AntwanN21
05-01-2010, 02:21 PM
If Yao came to Toronto, good luck getting tickets

ldc62
05-01-2010, 02:25 PM
Let a man dream.

I want to too, but its been 2 seasons of nightmares with the Raps.



If Yao came to Toronto, good luck getting tickets

Yeah. You better get them the day the deal is confirmed.

Kidd>>>K-Mart
05-01-2010, 02:30 PM
I like the trade for both Teams. Rockets would be really good if this happened. With Scola and Battier coming off the bench that would be a great team.

thescore53
05-01-2010, 02:31 PM
he fits well in adelmen's system

yes he's a really good player, he'll work in that system

Raps18-19 Champ
05-01-2010, 02:32 PM
If Yao opt out and Bosh opts out, do a S&T for each other.

AntwanN21
05-01-2010, 02:34 PM
yes he's a really good player, he'll work in that system

he works hard, doesnt eat pizza pizza, is very serious on the bench never smilies when were losing, he never goes to the bars in Toronto, you guys will really like him in Houston

MacFitz92
05-01-2010, 02:37 PM
possibly but i recall bosh said a while ago he wouldnt want to play there. but who knows maybe his attitude may have changed after our season ended.

He is from Dallas the Dallas area...

Marques24kobe
05-01-2010, 02:48 PM
Why would Toronto want to do a sign and trade with Houston if they dont get KMart, Yao, or Brooks in return. Jordan Hill might have potential but why would they help another team out to get a bunch of crap in return. We know it wouldnt be for a salary dump because by just letting Bosh go they are going to save about $18 million. And if you include Hedo you have to come up with about $28 million worth of contracts to exchange or very high draft picks. Just wondering.

ldc62
05-01-2010, 03:02 PM
Why would Toronto want to do a sign and trade with Houston if they dont get KMart, Yao, or Brooks in return. Jordan Hill might have potential but why would they help another team out to get a bunch of crap in return. We know it wouldnt be for a salary dump because by just letting Bosh go they are going to save about $18 million. And if you include Hedo you have to come up with about $28 million worth of contracts to exchange or very high draft picks. Just wondering.

Say Bosh does in fact wanna go to houston.... he could basically go there and TO would get nothing. So obviously its better to get something than nothing.

AntwanN21
05-01-2010, 03:05 PM
Say Bosh does in fact wanna go to houston.... he could basically go there and TO would get nothing. So obviously its better to get something than nothing.

Actually howd could Bosh go to Houston, im pretty sure they do not have the cap space to compensate his 17 mill a year

rockets-fan
05-01-2010, 03:07 PM
Why would Toronto want to do a sign and trade with Houston if they dont get KMart, Yao, or Brooks in return. Jordan Hill might have potential but why would they help another team out to get a bunch of crap in return. We know it wouldnt be for a salary dump because by just letting Bosh go they are going to save about $18 million. And if you include Hedo you have to come up with about $28 million worth of contracts to exchange or very high draft picks. Just wondering.

becuase its not up to Toronto wat they get in return...its all in the hands of Bosh...for example...if the lakers offered lets jus say gasol(just an example) for bosh....i think that congelo rather have gasol over anything houston would offer...BUT...woulkd bosh agree to be the 2cd maybe 3rd otion in LA?? although the Toronto front office likes a laker/raptor trade....its up to bosh if it happens or not...so bosh goes where he wants...no matter wat the raptors get in return...

DevonMSF
05-01-2010, 03:12 PM
Houston would be DUMB not to pull this deal.

-Brooks
-Martin
-Hedo
-scola
-Bosh

...damn good.

Rockets Fanatic
05-01-2010, 03:36 PM
what makes yall think yao will be traded, no way in hell

wileyisTOFU
05-01-2010, 04:25 PM
He is from Dallas the Dallas area...

yes... and no one in their right mind would move back to dallas..

wileyisTOFU
05-01-2010, 04:26 PM
what makes yall think yao will be traded, no way in hell

their drinking the ****** juice

IndiansFan337
05-01-2010, 04:35 PM
am sure cuban will also pursue bosh

I think so too. He's going to push them hard. I think he would be willing to take on Turkoglu with Bosh too. He could give them Dampier, Butler & some draft picks? Obviously the talent is not going to be even in a S&T for Bosh, but getting out from under the finals 4 years of Turkoglu's contract would be a tremendous feat for Colangelo. I could also see Cuban being willing to take on Calderon. So either a Bosh/Calderon or a Bosh/Turkoglu trade could be proposed to the Mavs.

thescore53
05-01-2010, 04:44 PM
I think so too. He's going to push them hard. I think he would be willing to take on Turkoglu with Bosh too. He could give them Dampier, Butler & some draft picks? Obviously the talent is not going to be even in a S&T for Bosh, but getting out from under the finals 4 years of Turkoglu's contract would be a tremendous feat for Colangelo. I could also see Cuban being willing to take on Calderon. So either a Bosh/Calderon or a Bosh/Turkoglu trade could be proposed to the Mavs.

and when that happen mavs are in store for another .let down in the playoffs , dirk and bosh is worse than bargnani and bosh

ldc62
05-01-2010, 04:52 PM
Actually howd could Bosh go to Houston, im pretty sure they do not have the cap space to compensate his 17 mill a year

They could find teams with cap and trade away all their expiring contract.

mvb815
05-01-2010, 05:01 PM
this is stupid, as a raptors fan, i do not want to take a chance on hill, nor do i want kevin martin on my team.

we need defence, we need a true center

that has been our problem for the last 800 seasons, fix it

Sadds The Gr8
05-01-2010, 05:16 PM
You know whats sad about that? 6'6 and he plays much tougher and is a better rebounder than Bargs.... I wouldn't mind seeing Chuck as a Raptor next year because he is an amazing passer at center too.

yea of course. trust me I'm always the first to criticize Bargnani about his whackass defense and brutal rebounding

Jamiecballer
05-01-2010, 05:18 PM
and when that happen mavs are in store for another .let down in the playoffs , dirk and bosh is worse than bargnani and bosh

what makes you say that? are you suggesting that Dirk would be a worse center than Bargnani?

nuggetsyankees
05-01-2010, 05:32 PM
dallas would only go after bosh if dirk turned down his early termination option and doesn't resign

CLMCII
05-01-2010, 05:33 PM
Bosh would be a good trade for Dallas. I just don't think they will look there first. Haywood did a great job for the Mavericks. I agree he is no Bosh but he will do just fine.

thescore53
05-01-2010, 05:34 PM
what makes you say that? are you suggesting that Dirk would be a worse center than Bargnani?

bargs is a wayy beter defender at the center position and youu know it

*Superman*
05-03-2010, 04:58 PM
UPDATE: Rockets working on Sales Pitch.


The Rockets are preparing their pitch to persuade Chris Bosh to join the team this off-season.

Other clubs that are expected to pursue Bosh -- Miami, New York, Chicago and New Jersey -- will have the cap room to sign Bosh to a maximum-salary contract. The Rockets would need to work out a sign-and-trade deal with the Raptors that would land Bosh in Houston.

"At the heart of the issue is, first, persuading Bosh to play for the Rockets," writes Richard Justice of the Houston Chronicle. "If they're able to do that, everything else almost certainly will fall into place. That's why the Rockets are spending so much time and energy coming up with the right recruiting pitch."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6985746.html