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G-Funk
04-30-2010, 01:55 PM
Win or lose, Cavs have a core of very old players, Shaq, Ilgauskas, Jaminson are all over 33. eventually Cavs will need to rebuild around Lebron. How big is that window?

Hellcrooner
04-30-2010, 02:02 PM
deppends on Lebron.

If he walks window is closed.

If he stays and they sign Stou or Bosh that gives them another 3 years.

Hawkeye15
04-30-2010, 02:04 PM
pretty much until LeBron leaves or declines in 5-6 years.

Hellcrooner
04-30-2010, 02:05 PM
pretty much until LeBron leaves or declines in 5-6 years.

mmm im not sure he will decline that soon.

He is a phisical beast.

He can play at high level until 32 more or less.


BUT is decline will be narrow because his blessing is also his downfall when he cant realy son much on his body.

abe_froman
04-30-2010, 02:07 PM
at the ende of the year when lebron,shaq,ect.'s contracts are up

Hawkeye15
04-30-2010, 02:08 PM
mmm im not sure he will decline that soon.

He is a phisical beast.

He can play at high level until 32 more or less.


BUT is decline will be narrow because his blessing is also his downfall when he cant realy son much on his body.

agreed, he may be a new breed who pushes decline off, just going off normal career curve. Bout 1100 games in, usually no bueno for the body

jackdawson
04-30-2010, 02:10 PM
Win or lose, Cavs have a core of very old players, Shaq, Ilgauskas, Jaminson are all over 33. eventually Cavs will need to rebuild around Lebron. How big is that window?

After they win couple of rings. If Lebron stays in cleveland, their window won't be closed untill he retires. If lebron goes to wolvs, clippers, nets, grizz their windows will also be open always. It's Lebron James we are talking about here.

Avenged
04-30-2010, 02:15 PM
The Cavs window will close when Lebron James leaves. If he leaves this year, their window is pretty much closed unless they can somehow manage to attract a big FA this summer.

As long as Lebron James is a Cavalier though, the window will remain open.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
04-30-2010, 02:16 PM
deppends on Lebron.

If he walks window is closed.

If he stays and they sign Stou or Bosh that gives them another 3 years.

:eyebrow:

JasonJohnHorn
04-30-2010, 02:17 PM
This season could very well be the end of their window. Sahq and Big z could each return next year, but if they retire, that will leave a gaping hole at center and the Cavs still havent really filled their shooting guard vacancy very well, and though they have a solid point guard in Mo Williams, he is still not a top five point guard and is out played by his oponents frequently enough to cause some concern.

If Shaq and Z retire or leave, anderson V. would make a solid starting center, and Jamison is going to be a solid starter for a couple eyars with Hickson proving that he has some game, but that would give them only three solid contributors in the front court. Rigth now they have five or six (if you include Powe), and a great SF rotation (the best SF in the league and Jamario Moon backing up), but they have a hole at shooting guard and a quality PG that is good, but not dominant at his position.

Of course, having James sign a long term contract will attrack ring chasing free agents (like Jermaine O'Neal), so.... there is much up in the air.

Bottom line is, the Cavs cant afford to have a mind set like LA (who will be in contention for several year). They have to have to get it done now.

magichatnumber9
04-30-2010, 02:24 PM
Lebron is very top heavy, it will take it's toll on his ankles and knees very soon.

FairWeatherFan?
04-30-2010, 02:27 PM
Lebron is very top heavy, it will take it's toll on his ankles and knees very soon.

Very valid point.

ballpd05
04-30-2010, 02:28 PM
There window is open as long as Lebron is on the court. If all of those guys get old and decline Lebron has enough pull to make the Cavs pull off some type of crazy trade to remain competitive. That and Lebron is not only one of the best scorers in the league, but the best playmakers.

If he can beat that good Detroit team (even though they lost to the spurs in a sweep) than it doesn't take much for him to put up a contender. I think last years Cavs team without Lebron are about as good as Miami's team without wade. Maybe Delonte and Mo could stand out, but it is proven you don't need much to be a contender with the King. Just play D and be able to make an open shot with some regularity.

G-Funk
04-30-2010, 02:32 PM
tHEY WOULD EVENTUALLY HAVE TO REBUILD AROUND LEBRON AGAIN

Pierzynski4Prez
04-30-2010, 02:40 PM
The Cavs window will close when Lebron James leaves. If he leaves this year, their window is pretty much closed unless they can somehow manage to attract a big FA this summer.

As long as Lebron James is a Cavalier though, the window will remain open.

This.

iggypop123
04-30-2010, 02:40 PM
everyone talks about the minutes kobe and kg and others have on their bodies. lebron will likely hit those minutes at 28

nrwskinny
04-30-2010, 02:47 PM
Don't forget that Cleveland is also wayyyyy over the salary cap..

GrumpyOldMan
04-30-2010, 02:50 PM
The free agency season will tell us a lot. It is however the Eastern Conference and unless a few teams get considerably better Cleveland will contend if they keep Lebron.

CavsYanksDuke
04-30-2010, 03:03 PM
Is there some sort of big free agency thing at the end of this year?

prodigy
04-30-2010, 04:35 PM
Win or lose, Cavs have a core of very old players, Shaq, Ilgauskas, Jamison are all over 33. eventually Cavs will need to rebuild around Lebron. How big is that window?


Cavs will NOT rebuild around Lebron. They will just reload. Mo, West, Hickson, Lebron, Gibson, Jawad, powe, AV, Green, Tel-fair are all still fairly young.

Jamison still has a couple good years of high level play left. Also Parker, Moon, Tel-fair will be great trade bait. Jamison will also be great trade bait in a couple years.

If all else fails I think lebron would sign with Cleveland but then asked to be traded. So he won't leave us Dry. Like if we did that and traded him to the knicks I would ask for Lee, Chandler, Douglas, 1st rounder some more young talent.

Mr. Net32
04-30-2010, 05:07 PM
Until July 1st when he leaves or Wade gets a new teamate.

JasonJohnHorn
04-30-2010, 05:25 PM
Lebron is very top heavy, it will take it's toll on his ankles and knees very soon.


Yeah... its too bad he relies entirely on those ankles to cut and slash to the basket, that takes away his entire game, because its not like he's got a longer range shot, a mid range jumper, or a post game to balance out the slashing/cutting to the basket. (insert sarc mark here)

TheKing23
04-30-2010, 07:07 PM
When LeBron starts to decline in about 7 years time.

Raph12
04-30-2010, 07:14 PM
With LBJ running the show, they'll contend for the next 3-5 years, but unless they get something better than a 35yr old Jamison and 38yr old Shaq around him, they won't make much of a mark after about 2 years.

TheKing23
04-30-2010, 07:34 PM
With LBJ running the show, they'll contend for the next 3-5 years, but unless they get something better than a 35yr old Jamison and 38yr old Shaq around him, they won't make much of a mark after about 2 years.

Jamison is 33.

bigsams50
04-30-2010, 07:37 PM
It depends on how much more Hicksons develops IMO. IF he can become a legit starting 4, then the Cavs window could be open for alot longer

Raph12
04-30-2010, 07:38 PM
Jamison is 33.

Man I was misinformed, he's still pretty old but probably has 3-5 years left... You guys should try to get Haywood in the offseason, wonder if he would settle for the MLE?

JordansBulls
04-30-2010, 07:44 PM
It depends. They will be good like the Mavs have been this decade winning 50+ and getting top seeds. But it doesn't mean they will win many titles.

RaysFan
04-30-2010, 10:36 PM
Win or lose, Cavs have a core of very old players, Shaq, Ilgauskas, Jaminson are all over 33. eventually Cavs will need to rebuild around Lebron. How big is that window?

I wouldn't exactly consider Shaq and Ilgauskas as part of Cleveland's "core". Jamison is old but his play hasn't suffered at all so we will see what happens with him.

With this group I will say they have 3 more years. Then we will see if Cleveland can add pieces the way they have over the last 2 years.

Raps18-19 Champ
04-30-2010, 10:51 PM
As long as Lebron is there, he can make it work.

Either making trades to get young guys

or

Talented vets would probably come to Cleveland for 1 more chance just for the sake of winning a title.

tjlipford
05-01-2010, 12:56 AM
The Cavs window is pretty good. Dan Gilbert is an owner who is willing to spend, and we do have some money coming off the books. So as long as we have LB the Cavs can wreck havoc on the league for the next couple of years

ldc62
05-01-2010, 01:15 AM
When lebron leaves... so this year the windows closing... jp Cavs fans.