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cheerio
04-15-2010, 01:15 AM
(4) Denver Nuggets (53-29) vs. (5) Utah Jazz (53-29)
Home court advantage: Denver Nuggets

Regular season series breakdown:
October 28 @ Denver -- Jazz: 105 Nuggets: 114
January 2 @ Utah -- Nuggets: 105 Jazz: 95
January 17 @ Denver -- Jazz: 112 Nuggets: 119
Febuary 6 @ Utah -- Nuggets: 106 Jazz: 116
Nuggets won series 3-1

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7691/nuggetscopy.jpg
Projected Starting Line Up:
http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/63.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/3187.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/1975.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/515.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/1713.jpg
Chauncey Billups (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=63) - Arron Afflalo (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3187) - Carmelo Anthony (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1975) - Kenyon Martin (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=515) - Nene (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1713)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1687/jazzcopy.jpg
Projected Starting Line Up:
http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/2798.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/4032.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/434.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/1703.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/1014.jpg
Deron Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2798) - Wesley Matthews (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=4032) - Andrei Kirilenko (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=434) - Carlos Boozer (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1703) - Mehmet Okur (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1014)

Game One, Pepsi Center: Jazz - 113 / Nuggets - 126 (http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300417007)
Game Two, Pepsi Center: Jazz - 114 / Nuggets - 111 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300419007)
Game Three, EnergySolutions Arena: Nuggets - 93 / Jazz - 105 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300423026)
Game Four, EnergySolutions Arena: Nuggets - 106 / Jazz - 117 (http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300425026)

JAZZ LEAD SERIES 2-1

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 01:20 AM
I'm goin with Nuggets in 7.

Skizzik
04-15-2010, 01:21 AM
Jazz in 6. I think Denver is the better team, in my opinion...however, missing Karl for the first round will be too much.

JordansBulls
04-15-2010, 01:25 AM
Nuggets should take this in 6.

iggypop123
04-15-2010, 01:25 AM
jazz. jr smith will attempt 10 3's a game.

D-Will4Prez
04-15-2010, 01:27 AM
Denver's morale seems to shoot way down when they don't have Karl, and with Martin coming off a big injury I don't think Denver wins this one.

Sadds The Gr8
04-15-2010, 01:27 AM
Nuggets in 7. If Kmart doesnt play, it'll be easier for the Jazz, but regardless, I think Denver has the best player in the series and he'll carry them in this series.

jimbobjarree
04-15-2010, 01:34 AM
Jazz in 6! AK and Boozer will be back for Saturday's game, and hopefully we will want to bite back after tonights embarassment.

Rocktober2009
04-15-2010, 01:38 AM
Denver in 5. Denver has confidence against the Jazz this season, the one loss in a game where Carmelo and Chauncey were out and they were still in it.

Carmelo wont let this team go down in the first round while they have home court. I don't see Utah winning a game in Denver, but I do see them taking a game in Utah of course, they're tough there.

jimbobjarree
04-15-2010, 01:40 AM
I can see it coming back to Utah on Thursday tied

SouljahPhil...
04-15-2010, 01:41 AM
Nugs at 6..

Rocktober2009
04-15-2010, 01:42 AM
That's why they play the game eh? :) Should be a solid series. Both these teams are solid. Heck, every team in the West is solid going in except Portland.

tr4shb0t
04-15-2010, 02:00 AM
who will suck less on the road?

nuggets in 6

Spurred1
04-15-2010, 02:24 AM
It'll be a fun physical series-but Denver really seems lost without George Karl, so the Jazz may very well end up taking it. Unless Boozer and Kirilenko are out, then Denver should take advantage and win the series. I'm actually looking forward to this series the most.

kblo247
04-15-2010, 03:33 AM
Nuggets in 6. I can see JR Smith easily shooting the Jazz out of the last game and into the 2 games in Utah when that playoff crowd is buzzing.

J-Relo
04-15-2010, 03:47 AM
gonna be great series... i pick 6-7 games and Nuggets as a possible winner

stawka
04-15-2010, 03:56 AM
If Boozer's out, Nuggets in 5. If Boozer's back, I'll say Nuggets in 7

JayW_1023
04-15-2010, 04:33 AM
This one will be by far the most intruiging series of the first round (better than the overhyped Thunder/Lakers series). These two teams match up too closely. I expect Boozer and Martin to be healthy.

The Nuggets rely on ISO play and the Jazz emphasize ball movement. Their offense is just clicking better. But the Nuggets have a genuine superstar in Anthony, who the Jazz have no one to match up with (why they got rid of Ronnie Brewer befuddles me).

So I pick Denver in a VERY close 7 games.

The_Pharouh
04-15-2010, 08:24 AM
Nuggets in 7
and man this will be a really bad end for a good season for Utah

Iodine
04-15-2010, 08:32 AM
Jazz in 6! AK and Boozer will be back for Saturday's game, and hopefully we will want to bite back after tonights embarassment.

This

todu82
04-15-2010, 09:00 AM
Denver in 6

Fool
04-15-2010, 09:37 AM
Nuggets in 6 but I hope to god that the Jazz win this, and win it bad.

Raidaz4Life
04-15-2010, 09:44 AM
Nuggets 7

MagicDojo
04-15-2010, 11:03 AM
denver is better but playing worse latley, Melo is the x factor.

jimbobjarree
04-15-2010, 11:15 AM
It'll be a fun physical series-but Denver really seems lost without George Karl, so the Jazz may very well end up taking it. Unless Boozer and Kirilenko are out, then Denver should take advantage and win the series. I'm actually looking forward to this series the most.

yeah its all well and good for the damn neutrals

m26555
04-15-2010, 11:34 AM
I think this is the best first-round matchup. I'm leaning toward Denver in seven, but I could just as easily see Utah taking it.

Wilson
04-15-2010, 12:07 PM
I'm not entirely sure what's happening as far as injuries and stuff, so if I made any mistakes with the projected starters, please let me know guys :cheers:

yanks19791024
04-15-2010, 12:07 PM
Nuggets in 6

drama1386
04-15-2010, 12:25 PM
i really feel like the jazz will pull this off in 6. george karl is out the 1st round & kenyon martin is not 100%. but at the same time, boozer might not be 100% as well. i'm still goin with the jazz in 6.

HoopsDrive
04-15-2010, 01:01 PM
Nuggets in 5.

bigsams50
04-15-2010, 01:21 PM
This is gonna be a great series. I got the Jazz in 6

lakerssssssss
04-15-2010, 01:24 PM
Utah in 7

IversonIsKrazy
04-15-2010, 01:42 PM
No one will win on the road in this series, and I got this Nuggets in 7. It'll be a fun series tho, and I see Nene having a very good series.

Gibby23
04-15-2010, 02:23 PM
I see the Jazz in 7. Can't wait to see D Wills hair in the playoffs this year.

alencp3
04-15-2010, 03:04 PM
jazz in 7

td0tsfinest
04-15-2010, 03:16 PM
This might be the best matchup out of all the series.

Who ever wins it, I think it will go down to game 7. My prediction, it will be the Nuggets.

jimbobjarree
04-15-2010, 03:18 PM
Carlos Boozer, Andrei Kirilenko promise they'll return for playoffs (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700024698/Boozer-Kirilenko-promise-to-return.html?pg=2)

heathonater
04-15-2010, 04:25 PM
i got the jazz in 7 with the slightest of margins.

kblo247
04-15-2010, 05:41 PM
I believe this will be a series where both compete to see who get their annual boot by the Lakers every year.

For the sake of argument though I hope the Nuggets win and Karl returns as they are the better team and would make a better 2nd round opponent

Ryan328
04-15-2010, 06:11 PM
Nuggets in 7

Kakaroach
04-15-2010, 07:32 PM
Lettttss goooo Jaazzz.

I'm gonna be optimistic and say the Jazz in 6, maybe 7 games.

Ray_R
04-15-2010, 07:34 PM
THis is my favorite series.

Jumba
04-15-2010, 09:47 PM
If the Jazz steal one on the road in the first two games then the series is the Jazz in 5 or 6. If they don't. Then its game 7. Jazz win.

blah-blah
04-15-2010, 10:09 PM
nuggets in 6

goodfromdeep
04-15-2010, 10:41 PM
I put the Jazz in 6. Home court is huge in this series and I think the Jazz can pull one of the 1st 2 games in Denver. If not Denver could take it in 7.

DenButsu
04-16-2010, 01:46 AM
I'm not entirely sure what's happening as far as injuries and stuff, so if I made any mistakes with the projected starters, please let me know guys :cheers:

Everything looks right to me, assuming good health for both teams.

And if both teams are in good health, I think the biggest X-factor in this series is the guard play. "Deron vs. Chauncey" will get the spotlight, but I'm more interested in things like... how much time will Afflalo spend guarding Deron (some at least, I think), how many minutes will Lawson get? (he's been the Nuggets' Jazz-killer this season), how consistently will J.R./Afflalo for Denver and Matthews/Korver for Utah hit their 3s? So many things could go random in the backcourt in this series. Other things are, I think, more predictable - Jazz will probably have an edge in rebounding and assists, Nuggets will probably have an edge in scoring in the paint and getting to the line.

Nuggets fans are worried about the refs. Dantley has been far too passive for the Nuggets, and it's a concern that Sloan will be all up in the refs' ears while AD sits idly by and lets his guys get mugged without protest. He'll need to find his stones for this one.

Should be a great series no matter what, but I do think the Nuggets take it by the 6th or 7th game. Think there's a decent shot they could even by 3-1 by game 4, with Utah's 2nd home game being on Sunday.

One random point about the scheduling of this series: Game 2 is on Monday and Game 3 is on Friday, w/ a 3-day break in between. Is this happening in any other series? Seems to be a little in WTF territory to me...

MagicDojo
04-16-2010, 08:55 AM
Everything looks right to me, assuming good health for both teams.

And if both teams are in good health, I think the biggest X-factor in this series is the guard play. "Deron vs. Chauncey" will get the spotlight, but I'm more interested in things like... how much time will Afflalo spend guarding Deron (some at least, I think), how many minutes will Lawson get? (he's been the Nuggets' Jazz-killer this season), how consistently will J.R./Afflalo for Denver and Matthews/Korver for Utah hit their 3s? So many things could go random in the backcourt in this series. Other things are, I think, more predictable - Jazz will probably have an edge in rebounding and assists, Nuggets will probably have an edge in scoring in the paint and getting to the line.

Nuggets fans are worried about the refs. Dantley has been far too passive for the Nuggets, and it's a concern that Sloan will be all up in the refs' ears while AD sits idly by and lets his guys get mugged without protest. He'll need to find his stones for this one.

Should be a great series no matter what, but I do think the Nuggets take it by the 6th or 7th game. Think there's a decent shot they could even by 3-1 by game 4, with Utah's 2nd home game being on Sunday.

One random point about the scheduling of this series: Game 2 is on Monday and Game 3 is on Friday, w/ a 3-day break in between. Is this happening in any other series? Seems to be a little in WTF territory to me...

agreed about the how the Nugs series will play out.
The Magic have an odd schedule too. Sunday, Wednesday, Saturday, Monday.

jimbobjarree
04-16-2010, 11:04 AM
Everything looks right to me, assuming good health for both teams.

And if both teams are in good health, I think the biggest X-factor in this series is the guard play. "Deron vs. Chauncey" will get the spotlight, but I'm more interested in things like... how much time will Afflalo spend guarding Deron (some at least, I think), how many minutes will Lawson get? (he's been the Nuggets' Jazz-killer this season), how consistently will J.R./Afflalo for Denver and Matthews/Korver for Utah hit their 3s? So many things could go random in the backcourt in this series. Other things are, I think, more predictable - Jazz will probably have an edge in rebounding and assists, Nuggets will probably have an edge in scoring in the paint and getting to the line.

Nuggets fans are worried about the refs. Dantley has been far too passive for the Nuggets, and it's a concern that Sloan will be all up in the refs' ears while AD sits idly by and lets his guys get mugged without protest. He'll need to find his stones for this one.

Should be a great series no matter what, but I do think the Nuggets take it by the 6th or 7th game. Think there's a decent shot they could even by 3-1 by game 4, with Utah's 2nd home game being on Sunday.

One random point about the scheduling of this series: Game 2 is on Monday and Game 3 is on Friday, w/ a 3-day break in between. Is this happening in any other series? Seems to be a little in WTF territory to me...

For us its down to how effective can the Jazz run their game plan without turning it over 20 times a game. Turnovers have killed us recently, if we dont take care of the ball this series, we wont win simple as. Can we got off to a quick start? At home we start well, but on the road we never do, against Denver this season both times, they get off to big double figure leads early, and we have to chase them down all game. Its also how healthy Boozer and AK come back. I dont expect AK to come back and play his full minutes, he'll be eased back to normal, Boozer I dont know. Can we get into the paint. We suffer when the opponent makes us take jump shots, if we cant penetrate then there will be a problem, and if not, how effectively can Deron take over the game v Chauncey/Ty.

Then theres the 3s you mentioned. Memo has a big part to play in this series, when he fires against Denver we are unstoppable, when he struggles like he did every game against Denver this season we struggle, and Memo is pretty much ineffective as he cant guard Nene. The Jazz have never really guarded the 3 point line all season, Smith/Melo/Billups/Afflalo will all get open looks, its all down to if them if they can knock down their shots.

And can we stop the usual Jazz killers Lawson and Nene. They always kill us, especialy Nene, he gets some god damn easy buckets in the paint.

I want to be optimistic and say Jazz in 6/7, but if we come out 1st game, go down 20 early, turn the ball over loads, memo struggles, we dont play any defense and AK and Boozer cant handle too many minutes, Denver could have this series wrapped up in 5/6

AIMelo=KillaDUO
04-16-2010, 11:19 AM
Hopefully this is an agressive series... like tha Bulls-Knicks back in tha day!

R8R4LIFE
04-16-2010, 12:34 PM
Nuggets in 6.

DenButsu
04-16-2010, 01:00 PM
Apologies to Jazz fans... but...

if this is accurate - tough break for Jazz fans, and although it's under unfortunate circumstances, lucky break for the Nuggs:


tribjazz

Jazz are saying Kirilenko will be out two weeks while exploring treatment options.

http://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/12291800897

nuggetsyankees
04-16-2010, 01:36 PM
AK is out for the first round with a calf injury so i say nuggets in 6

Jahari Kavi
04-16-2010, 01:50 PM
Nuggets in 6....Jazz won't be able to win on the road, as always.

IndiansFan337
04-16-2010, 01:55 PM
Nuggets in 6.

LeBroom
04-16-2010, 02:08 PM
Thuggets in 5.

JordansBulls
04-16-2010, 02:15 PM
Utah Jazz: Andrei Kirilenko out for series vs. Nuggets (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700025014/Utah-Jazz-Andrei-Kirilenko-out-for-series-vs-Nuggets.html)



Jazz small forward Andrei Kirilenko has re-injured his strained left calf and will miss the first round of the Jazz's playoff series against the Denver Nuggets.

Team spokesman Jonathan Rinehart said Kirkilenko got hurt during a "light workout" on Thursday, and an MRI exam showed that he had strained the calf in a different part of the muscle than he had two previous times he's injured the same calf.

Rinehart said Kirilenko will be out for at least the next two weeks.

Also today, neither Carlos Boozer (strained oblique muscle) nor Mehmet Okur (Achilles tendinitis) practiced with the team.

The Jazz are calling Boozer a "game-time decision" for the series opener on Saturday night in Denver.

Okur says he plans on playing, but that he is not fully healthy.

jimbobjarree
04-16-2010, 02:46 PM
we've played without him for 17 odd games now so we're used to playing without him, but his return would have been a huge boost

Jason5Kidd5
04-16-2010, 03:06 PM
Nuggets in 7. If Kmart doesnt play, it'll be easier for the Jazz, but regardless, I think Denver has the best player in the series and he'll carry them in this series.

D. Williams plays for the Jazz dude...

Rocktober2009
04-16-2010, 03:15 PM
D. Williams plays for the Jazz dude...

It's probably not a good idea to turn this into a "who's the better player, Carmelo or D. Williams?" thread. They're both great players, so don't try to start anything, yeah?


Anyhoo I saw AK-47 as a threat to the Nuggets for the simple fact that he could get 'Melo and Kenyon into foul trouble. Him not playing is a BIG break for Denver, but an unfortunate one for the Jazz.

tredigs
04-16-2010, 04:02 PM
AK47 being out, and a severely hampered/possibly out Carlos Boozer just destroys the Jazz chances. I liked them going in because of all the Nuggets recent trouble, but I'd have to say Nuggets in 5 at this point.

Spurred1
04-16-2010, 05:09 PM
Nuggets are banged up and missing their coach, but the Jazz have two frontcourt players questionable healthwise in Boozer and Okur. So with those 2 affected, the Nuggets should be able to get this. Should...not will because well, anything can happen.

Brooklyn Mets
04-16-2010, 05:14 PM
nuggets in 6

JordansBulls
04-16-2010, 07:45 PM
Nuggets are banged up and missing their coach, but the Jazz have two frontcourt players questionable healthwise in Boozer and Okur. So with those 2 affected, the Nuggets should be able to get this. Should...not will because well, anything can happen.

AK47 is not playing and Boozer is banged up.

jimbobjarree
04-16-2010, 08:50 PM
I'll try and find a link, but it sounds like Boozer will give game 1 a go. Good news!

DenButsu
04-16-2010, 09:05 PM
It's probably not a good idea to turn this into a "who's the better player, Carmelo or D. Williams?" thread. They're both great players

100% agreed. Both teams have at least two great stars and more players beyond them even who could step up and be the best player on the court in any given game.

I will say this, though, I like the way the Nuggets match up. Obviously, Deron is Utah's most dangerous player, with Boozer right there behind him. Keeping it real, I'd have to say that Deron probably has the edge on Billups' defense at this point. But I love that Denver's best defender (K-Mart) is matched up opposite Carlos. Of course they're both troubled by injuries so much will ride on their health. But the important thing, if they're both healthy, is that the Nuggets can entrust Kenyon with defending Boozer solo, without doubling, which will allow the defense to really focus on the primary point of attack (Williams) and try to take away some aspects of his effectiveness. I imagine the strategy will actually be to put Afflalo on him, with the help D ready to put soft doubles on, in order to force the ball out of his hands and realy on others for more of their scoring. We'll probably see a lot of trapping and trying to deny him penetration into the lane. If the Nuggets are effective (to the extent they possibly can be) in doing this, he's going to be looking for Memo, Korver and Matthews for the 3. The Denver defense is pretty damn good at staying in front of guards on switches and protecting the basket. But not nearly as good when it comes to guarding the perimeter, and I'm sure Sloan has it all scouted out to try to exploit that Achilles heel. But I think that gives the Nuggets two clear priorities as a team defense - 1) reduce Deron's effectiveness, 2) be vigilant on the perimeter D - which if they can execute successfully, shoulddeliver them some good results.

The one other general focus for Denver's D (and I think jimbo mentioned this from the opposing side as something to avoid) is to try to force turnovers. Nothing gets the Nuggets offense going better than exploiting turnovers for easy fast break buckets, using that momentum to crank up the pace (and actually the defensive energy as well), and getting the game into the kind of mode they're most comfortable with. I'd say that two important things for the Utah D will be clogging the paint to take away easy dunks and layups (and force the Nuggets into a jump shooting team), and to get back quick on transition defense and prevent Denver from running the floor like they want to.

But I really do believe that Denver has better defensive answers for Utah's offense than vice versa. There are three Nuggets players (Melo, Nene, and Ty Lawson) who all season long the Jazz just really couldn't come up with defensive answers for. Lawson gave Deron all kinds of headaches. Memo really can't do much against Nene. And in the two games Melo did play against Utah this season, he averaged 33.5 pts on .545 shooting with 8 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 2 steals. And AK-47 did play in both of those games. With him now out of this series, it's hard to see where Utah will come up for defensive answers for Melo. I'm sure they'll swarm him, but Anthony has much improved in passing out of doubles and making opponents pay for it. And with guys like Nene, K-Mart and Birdman cutting, and guys like Afflalo (.429), Billups (.386), J.R. Smith (.338 - but we all know how that goes) and Lawson (.410) around the arc, he always has plenty of backup options, even if one or two guys have gone cold.


So yeah, both teams have at least one or two players who could take control of a game. And we'll probably see that happen more than once. But over a 7-game series, I like how Denver's main offensive points of attack are balanced (1-3-5) and mismatch against Utah's D, I like what the Nuggets have in the way of defensive answers for the Jazz, and overall I think the scales tip in the Nuggets' favor.

In 6 games.

Spurred1
04-16-2010, 09:10 PM
AK47 is not playing and Boozer is banged up.

I believe I addressed Boozer's health in my earlier post. I know Kirilenko isn't playing, but frankly, he's been injured so often during his time with the Jazz that they are probably used to playing without him. That isn't to say he wouldn't make a difference. He would, but the team knows how to carry on without him.
Boozer and Okur are bigger issues for them,imo.

DenButsu
04-16-2010, 09:27 PM
Everyone needs to check the team banners jimbo put together for the Jazz forum GT. Just great!

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476468

bigmac8675
04-16-2010, 09:30 PM
Jazz in 6. The Nuggets have not looked good as of late.

jimbobjarree
04-16-2010, 09:38 PM
Memo has a huge part to play for us. If his shot is falling, your not going to stop him. I dont see anyone stepping out to get to him, and if we can get him firing it will be a huge plus, but we have to play the type of game around him that makes his baskets mean something, he can be a weapon down the stretch if as a team we can get ourselves in a decent position. 3 point shooting will have as big a part to play in this series as anything, will be interesting to see who starts of hot and who doesnt (mind flashes back to big 15-0 runs early in Denver usually initiated by JR+Chauncey 3s...but then thankfully goes back to Memo shooting 8/9 from downtown at home against Denver the other season)

And I dont think we can take anything from the regular season though, I dont think any game we had both teams at full strength or without one team being on the second night of a back to back

DenButsu
04-16-2010, 11:10 PM
Memo has a huge part to play for us. If his shot is falling, your not going to stop him. I dont see anyone stepping out to get to him, and if we can get him firing it will be a huge plus, but we have to play the type of game around him that makes his baskets mean something, he can be a weapon down the stretch if as a team we can get ourselves in a decent position. 3 point shooting will have as big a part to play in this series as anything, will be interesting to see who starts of hot and who doesnt (mind flashes back to big 15-0 runs early in Denver usually initiated by JR+Chauncey 3s...but then thankfully goes back to Memo shooting 8/9 from downtown at home against Denver the other season)

And I dont think we can take anything from the regular season though, I dont think any game we had both teams at full strength or without one team being on the second night of a back to back

I'm guessing we might see the Birdman guard Memo some, and he actually might be one of the better equipped players to do that, having the quickness to get out on the perimeter (although that isn't really his comfort zone) and the length to make it difficult if he's there on time with a hand up.

And I don't want to read too much into the regular season, either. But I do think there are lessons to be learned from it (and you can be damn sure that both teams are viewing extensive film of it for that very reason). I certainly wouldn't say anything general like "Because Denver won the season series 3-1 that means they'll dominate in this series." I think the falseness of that assumption has been proven again and again every year. But I do think we can look at individual performances and matchups at least. You're totally right that when Okur has gotten a hot hand he's done a lot of damage to the Nuggets. But I think I'm also right that the Jazz really have found no good defensive solutions for Melo, Nene and Lawson. And that's a real problem of the whack-a-mole variety for Utah, I think, where if they focus their defensive efforts on any one of them, they will be opening up easy scoring opportunities for the others.

jimbobjarree
04-17-2010, 11:37 AM
I dunno, I just get the feeling that Memo is the only person that can stop Memo cus he gets the open looks due to his opponents unwillingness to guard the perimeter, its just down to wether he sticks em. Against Phoenix he looked really good though, I hope to god that continues.

We can put bodies on Nene and Melo and make them work for their points, but you know Memo will get a handful of open looks.

jimbobjarree
04-18-2010, 01:23 AM
One random point about the scheduling of this series: Game 2 is on Monday and Game 3 is on Friday, w/ a 3-day break in between. Is this happening in any other series? Seems to be a little in WTF territory to me...

blame the gay avalanche. Series was meant to be sunday-tuesday, but because of denver's hockey team the games had to be arranged around their games.

VIP1349
04-18-2010, 01:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPeP69tdoc&feature=player_embedded

Someone want to explain what the hell just happened?

DenButsu
04-18-2010, 01:46 AM
blame the gay avalanche. Series was meant to be sunday-tuesday, but because of denver's hockey team the games had to be arranged around their games.

I'm not sure that I'm sold on that theory. If there were a 1 day break between all games, then games 3 & 4 would be in Utah next Wed. and Fri., then game 5 would be in Denver on Sunday. There's no Avs game on Sunday.

DenButsu
04-18-2010, 01:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPeP69tdoc&feature=player_embedded

Someone want to explain what the hell just happened?

:laugh2: What the hell?

VIP1349
04-18-2010, 01:50 AM
I am so confused as to how that got on National TV, it was one of those life changing moments where you realize how great life truly is. I laugh every time I watch.

DenButsu
04-18-2010, 01:57 AM
I am so confused as to how that got on National TV, it was one of those life changing moments where you realize how great life truly is. I laugh every time I watch.

So good I had to tweet it. Still don't really get it, but somehow it's genius.

VIP1349
04-18-2010, 02:01 AM
So good I had to tweet it. Still don't really get it, but somehow it's genius.
I'd hope somebody will talk about it, lol.

Kohaku
04-18-2010, 02:04 AM
That commercial had me speechless.

jimbobjarree
04-18-2010, 02:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPeP69tdoc&feature=player_embedded

Someone want to explain what the hell just happened?

I saw that, just kinda shook it off. Would be interested to know why they aired it though


I'm not sure that I'm sold on that theory. If there were a 1 day break between all games, then games 3 & 4 would be in Utah next Wed. and Fri., then game 5 would be in Denver on Sunday. There's no Avs game on Sunday.

as soon as we came 5th our radio announcer said our games would be sunday-tuesday and then back in utah thursday-saturday, but then said because of avalanche scheduling all the dates have changed.

VIP1349
04-18-2010, 02:13 AM
That commercial had me speechless.
Something we'll all tell our kids about.

jimbobjarree
04-18-2010, 02:14 AM
I wonder if they air a Deron one when the series comes back to Utah or if it really was just a one time random event

shep33
04-18-2010, 02:21 AM
I think i picked this one in 6, Utah will be luck to win 1 now with their injuries. Okur and Kirilenko out... Booze banged up= utah not doing so well...

VIP1349
04-18-2010, 02:22 AM
I wonder if they air a Deron one when the series comes back to Utah or if it really was just a one time random event
I hope it's a long series of random commercials rather then just one.

jimbobjarree
04-18-2010, 02:46 AM
I've been told its a nike commercial. If you pause it at the end it says 'this AD is sponsored by jordan'.

Dont get how theyre going to sell shoes out of it though?

DenButsu
04-18-2010, 02:50 AM
I've been told its a nike commercial. If you pause it at the end it says 'this AD is sponsored by jordan'.

Dont get how theyre going to sell shoes out of it though?

We're all talking about it, right?

DenButsu
04-19-2010, 06:56 AM
It'll be a fun physical series-but Denver really seems lost without George Karl, so the Jazz may very well end up taking it. Unless Boozer and Kirilenko are out, then Denver should take advantage and win the series. I'm actually looking forward to this series the most.

That did look true - until game 1. While it's hard to overstate the importance of Karl's absence, with coach-on-the-floor Billups at the helm, and with some pretty solid playoff experience under their belts now, these Nuggets are no longer that youthful-to-a-fault team that the Spurs faced. Now it's more to the point where the coach can just put the players out on the court and entrust that they know to do the right things. Granted, the coach will still need to account for adjustments, rotations, etc. But the Nuggets played a very composed and cohesive first game, and I think that reflects where they're really at more than their late season mediocrity did. They've got the veteran leadership and a much matured Melo to hold things together now, and really, they're better designed for the playoffs than the regular season.

And Karl's first round absence but likely return in the 2nd gives them something very tangible and immediate to play for - getting him back on the bench, where he wants to be, in the second round.

Chronz
04-19-2010, 01:20 PM
This one is over

jimbobjarree
04-19-2010, 01:44 PM
its a shame that we cant throw Matty Harpring on to have a go on Anthony, those matchups used to be fun. I remember KMart got in a scuffle with matt once, those were good times.

jimbobjarree
04-20-2010, 11:37 AM
This one is over

you still willing to stick with that statement?

and mods, get that scoreboard to 1-1!

Chronz
04-20-2010, 12:17 PM
Didnt expect the Jazz to win, if the Jazz win this series then the debate between CP3 and Deron becomes legitimate.

jimbobjarree
04-20-2010, 12:50 PM
fair enough, I dont think anyone outside of our forum believed in our team, but as Paul Pierce says http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CkXmtsACzM

still got a very long way to go though in this series

tr4shb0t
04-20-2010, 12:51 PM
i think that game was just to make the series more interesting. denver in 6.

Kakaroach
04-20-2010, 06:07 PM
The fellas have quite the lay-off, next time they play is Friday night. 3 full days off.

DenButsu
04-20-2010, 06:53 PM
i think that game was just to make the series more interesting. denver in 6.

Agreed. The Nuggets tend to be like the bad news bears sometimes - gotta do just about everything wrong before they get it right. But they usually come around.

dukejazz
04-20-2010, 10:06 PM
utah is going to win all there games in utah nbas loudest arena :)

dukejazz
04-20-2010, 10:07 PM
The fellas have quite the lay-off, next time they play is Friday night. 3 full days off.

that will help the jazz more. Time for boozer to heal and deron etc.

DenButsu
04-20-2010, 11:08 PM
utah is going to win all there games in utah nbas loudest arena :)

I doubt it. They haven't protected their home court with the same vigilance as they have in seasons past this time around. And after that last game, the Nuggets are gonna come out just as hungry as the Jazz were in that one. I'm guessing the next two will be split, and I don't think Denver will lose 2 in a row, so I'm going with G3 to the Nuggs and G4 to Utah.

As for this long break, I think it probably helps both teams. The Nuggs have their own share of banged up players who could use some healing time. And also, the flip side for Denver of Utah losing players to injury is that they probably haven't had adequate time to scout the replacement players for the Jazz and game plan accordingly. This gives them a bit more time to hit the film room and make adjustments.

jimbobjarree
04-24-2010, 01:44 AM
^Denver wins game 3...nottttttttttttttttttttttttt (gotta love borat)

anyway, mods, you know what to do with the score in the thread title ;)

game 4 is huge now

JNA17
04-24-2010, 01:53 AM
denver is a **** hole right now, they lose game 4, and utah will probably have this series money in the bank

DenButsu
04-24-2010, 03:03 AM
denver is a **** hole right now, they lose game 4, and utah will probably have this series money in the bank

Unfortunately at this point I'd have to concede that you're probably right.

The bottom line: Denver just seems indifferent, and Utah just seems to want it more.

No hard work, no rewards. The Nuggets are still totally in this if they pull their heads out of their ***es, reclaim HCA in game 4, and make it a best of 3 series with two home games and momentum on their side.

But yeah, if they don't get their **** straight in the next game, it's probably over. And if so, they'll have nobody to blame but themselves. They had all the lucky breaks necessary to heavily tilt the advantage in their favor in this series, and they've just totally squandered that opportunity.

Bastardos.

jimbobjarree
04-26-2010, 06:12 PM
Deron Williams scored 24 points and distributed 13 assists as Utah took a three-games-to-one lead in their series against the Nuggets. Williams joined the Cincinnati Royals' Oscar Robertson (1965 Eastern Division Semifinals versus Philadelphia), the Suns' Kevin Johnson (1989 Western Conference Finals against the Lakers) and the Lakers' Magic Johnson (1990 Westen Conference Semifinals against Phoenix) as the only players in NBA history to register at least 20 points and 10 or more assists in each of the first four games of a playoff series.

Is CP3 still wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better?

DenButsu
04-26-2010, 08:56 PM
Deron Williams scored 24 points and distributed 13 assists as Utah took a three-games-to-one lead in their series against the Nuggets. Williams joined the Cincinnati Royals' Oscar Robertson (1965 Eastern Division Semifinals versus Philadelphia), the Suns' Kevin Johnson (1989 Western Conference Finals against the Lakers) and the Lakers' Magic Johnson (1990 Westen Conference Semifinals against Phoenix) as the only players in NBA history to register at least 20 points and 10 or more assists in each of the first four games of a playoff series.

Is CP3 still wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better?

Paging Chronz? :rolleyes:

Chronz
04-27-2010, 12:17 AM
Paging Chronz? :rolleyes:


Is CP3 still wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better?

Oh yea well CP3 joined Steve Nash, Michael Jordan, Kevin Johnson as players to have 2 consecutive playoff games of 30+10 and he did them to start his series.

What else errr.... oh CP3 joined.. no scratch that he CREATED the list of players to ever average 24-11-4 and less than 2 turnovers per game for an entire playoff run. If you want to cheapen the club and make the cut off 4 turnovers Magic and Isiah Thomas join the list. And Oscar Robertson joins the club assuming he wasnt a turnover maniac.

The amount of arbitrary standards I can come up with are endless, nets not get carried away with meaningless drivel, what matters is his level of play and right now Deron is close to matching those requirements except hes much more turnover prone.

jimbobjarree
04-27-2010, 12:21 AM
wow chill out man, I'm just asking for a little respect for Deron. I think you disregarding Deron everytime and saying 'its not even close' is pretty disrespectful of him. I wasnt even saying he's better than Paul, I just find it laughable you think the difference is so great, especialy when Deron's currently leading his injury hit team much more successfully than CP3 did with his healthy Hornets of last season against the same Denver Nuggets.

DenButsu
04-27-2010, 09:07 AM
I'll give props to Deron. As much as I hate to see him doing it to my team, he's unquestionably playing at just about elite a level as any other player in the playoffs. He has seized the reins of the Jazz offense, running it pretty much to perfection, shredding the Nuggets D, setting up his teammates to score at will, and scoring and penetrating at will himself much of the time. There's just no two ways around that.

wileyisTOFU
04-27-2010, 09:19 AM
safe to say Denver over-achieved last year?

Chronz
04-27-2010, 12:31 PM
wow chill out man, I'm just asking for a little respect for Deron. I think you disregarding Deron everytime and saying 'its not even close' is pretty disrespectful of him. I wasnt even saying he's better than Paul, I just find it laughable you think the difference is so great, especialy when Deron's currently leading his injury hit team much more successfully than CP3 did with his healthy Hornets of last season against the same Denver Nuggets.
Chill out? What made you think I wasnt relaxed?

Not respectful? So the whole me sayings its getting getting closer isnt enough? And your lying to yourself if you think the Hornets were healthy in that series. Nor were those Nuggets the same, sure for the most part except that KMart was fresh and their team defense was sharper that year.

DenButsu
04-27-2010, 06:43 PM
safe to say Denver over-achieved last year?

Not at all. They're underachieving now, not the other way around. They're stacked with talent, and when they play focused, unselfish offense while putting in a sincere defensive effort, they can beat any team in the league (which they proved by having one of the best records against top teams in the regular season).

It was a great thing that for some reason seems to be breaking down now, not an over-achiever that's now coming back down to earth.

JordansBulls
04-29-2010, 12:47 PM
If Denver wins game 6 in Utah they will win game 7 at home guaranteed.

jimbobjarree
04-29-2010, 01:01 PM
I've heard rumblings that Nene was torn his ACL....any truth to this Nuggets fans? If so, thats a blow, and I wish him a speedy recovery. Torn ACLs are up their with the ruptured Achilles Memo got as the worst injuries to get, poor guy.

JNA17
04-29-2010, 01:04 PM
I've heard rumblings that Nene was torn his ACL....any truth to this Nuggets fans? If so, thats a blow, and I wish him a speedy recovery. Torn ACLs are up their with the ruptured Achilles Memo got as the worst injuries to get, poor guy.

Nene just can't catch a break :(

jimbobjarree
04-29-2010, 01:06 PM
I know, didnt he have knee problems before his cancer problems? Nothing is concrete though, could still be a sprain, but I doubt he plays tomorow night.

JNA17
04-29-2010, 01:13 PM
I know, didnt he have knee problems before his cancer problems? Nothing is concrete though, could still be a sprain, but I doubt he plays tomorow night.

I think so, i mostly remember him having heart problems or something like that.

but yeah if it's a torn ACL then no way he plays.

jimbobjarree
04-29-2010, 01:15 PM
if it is a torn acl he's looking at returning around christmas/new year, and with the birdman struggling and KMart looking on his last legs with that knee, the Nuggets need to be active this summer finding big man help or they will struggle.

Raph12
04-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Nene is injured, what's new... I actually like the Nuggets over the Jazz more than the Mavs over the Spurs.

DenButsu
04-29-2010, 08:41 PM
Nene is injured, what's new... I actually like the Nuggets over the Jazz more than the Mavs over the Spurs.

Actually, Nene being injured *is* new.

Check it out. GAme 6 will be Nene's first missed game of the season:


Player Age G GS ▾
Nene Hilario 27 82 82
Arron Afflalo 24 82 75
C. Billups 33 73 73
Carmelo Anthony 25 69 69
Kenyon Martin 32 58 58
Joey Graham 27 63 18
Johan Petro 24 36 16
Ty Lawson 22 65 8
Anthony Carter 34 54 7
Malik Allen 31 51 3
Renaldo Balkman 25 13 1
Chris Andersen 31 76 0
J.R. Smith 24 75 0

jimbobjarree
04-29-2010, 08:51 PM
its just a sprain isnt it? his season is probably over though