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Chronz
04-14-2010, 11:03 PM
(2) Dallas Mavericks (55-27) vs. (7) San Antonio Spurs (50-32)

Home court advantage: Dallas Mavericks

Regular season series breakdown:
November 11 @ San Antonio -- Mavericks: 83 Spurs: 92
November 18 @ Dallas -- Spurs: 94 Mavericks: 99 (OT)
January 8 @ San Antonio -- Mavericks: 112 Spurs: 103
April 14 @ Dallas -- Spurs: 89 Mavericks: 96
Mavericks won series 3-1

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9849/mavscopy.jpg
Projected Starting Line Up:
http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/429.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/1705.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/510.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/609.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/181.jpg
Jason Kidd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=429) - Caron Butler (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1705) - Shawn Marion (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=510) - Dirk Nowitzki (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=609) - Erick Dampier (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=181)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1313/spurscopy.jpg
Projected Starting Line Up:
http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/1015.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/272.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/1006.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/530.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/215.jpg
Tony Parker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1015) - Manu Ginobili (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=272) - Richard Jefferson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1006) - Antonio McDyess (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=530) - Tim Duncan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=215)

Game One, American Airlines Center: Spurs - 94 / Mavericks - 100 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300418006)
Game Two, American Airlines Center: Spurs - 102 / Mavericks - 88 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300421006)
Game Three, AT&T Center: Mavericks - 90 / Spurs - 94 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300423024)
Game Four, AT&T Center: Mavericks - 89 / Spurs - 92 (http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300425024)

SPURS LEAD SERIES 3-1

JordansBulls
04-14-2010, 11:11 PM
Think it will go 7.

Avenged
04-14-2010, 11:14 PM
Toss up for me.

My gut says Mavericks.

But I won't be shocked if the Spurs win.

CBCable
04-14-2010, 11:15 PM
mavs in 6

BlondeBomber41
04-14-2010, 11:17 PM
Mavs have the Spurs number, big time. Mavs in 5.

Sadds The Gr8
04-14-2010, 11:17 PM
Duncan doesn't have enough in the tank to carry the Spurs. Also the Mavs are too deep. Spurs will make it tough on the Mavs though, but Mavs in 6.

marlinsfan24
04-14-2010, 11:20 PM
Spurs in 6. Dirk will choke once again!

bahama0811
04-14-2010, 11:20 PM
Mavs in 6.

Chronz
04-14-2010, 11:31 PM
MUWAH HAHA

Classic Vegas bet, Im taking this one to the bank. Spurs are taking this yall

ashyzup
04-14-2010, 11:33 PM
Spurs in 6. Dirk will choke once again!

I don't know about you man but I woudn't call career playoff averages of 25.5 and 11, at 46% FG shooting, "choking".

Raph12
04-14-2010, 11:37 PM
Spurs with the upset in 6.

Young2Kinsler
04-14-2010, 11:37 PM
By no means am I a Mavs homer, but this is a bad matchup for the Spurs. Of course they could win, the Spurs are always great. That being said, I'll take Dallas in 5

momoneyyyy
04-14-2010, 11:38 PM
mavs in 5 just like last year..

Chronz
04-14-2010, 11:38 PM
By no means am I a Mavs homer, but this is a bad matchup for the Spurs. Of course they could win, the Spurs are always great. That being said, I'll take Dallas in 5

Bad matchup would be the Jazz, whom they could have faced had they won this game.

cheerio
04-14-2010, 11:42 PM
Mavs advance

Sadds The Gr8
04-14-2010, 11:43 PM
MUWAH HAHA

Classic Vegas bet, Im taking this one to the bank. Spurs are taking this yall


Spurs with the upset in 6.

you guys really think so? It could happen but I don't see it....Duncan just looks completely worn down to me. Mavs are hungry and have lots of depth

goku
04-14-2010, 11:49 PM
mavs in 7

Mavrix
04-14-2010, 11:51 PM
Mavs in 5 like last year. I'll be shocked if it goes to 6.

Mavrix
04-14-2010, 11:52 PM
MUWAH HAHA

Classic Vegas bet, Im taking this one to the bank. Spurs are taking this yall

$50 pay pal bet? Being 100% serious.

Mavrix
04-14-2010, 11:54 PM
C'mon Chronz I need some extra pocket change. I'll bet you $50 Mavs advance and an extra $25 if they make it to the WCF.

MacFitz92
04-15-2010, 12:02 AM
Spurs lost the game to purposely play the inferior "second" seed. Who you got winning?

Oh really, didn't look to me like they purposely lost. If you think the Spurs want any part of playing the Mavs you are damn wrong.

MacFitz92
04-15-2010, 12:03 AM
With that said, I'd be suprise to see the Spurs win one game. But **** happens, so I'll call Mavs in 5. Mavs match up better to the Spurs than anyone else.

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 12:04 AM
With that said, I'd be suprise to see the Spurs win one game. But **** happens, so I'll call Mavs in 5. Mavs match up better to the Spurs than anyone else.

People have their heads too far up their *** to realize that. The Spurs are the easiest matchup for the Mavs. I'm so thankful we're playing them in the first round.

IversonIsKrazy
04-15-2010, 12:06 AM
Mavs always play well against the Spurs, but I am just thinking wishful when I say Mavs in 7. What i really c is Mavs in 5 or 6.

Avenged
04-15-2010, 12:10 AM
Mavs always play well against the Spurs, but I am just thinking wishful when I say Mavs in 7. What i really c is Mavs in 5 or 6.

Don't let these Mavs fans intimidate you.

It won't be as easy as they think. ;)

momoneyyyy
04-15-2010, 12:13 AM
We got this series locked up.

shep33
04-15-2010, 12:14 AM
Mavs, i just think Butler and Marion can slow down Ginobili

Chacarron
04-15-2010, 12:16 AM
Whenever these two teams play in the postseason, they always put out their best basketball. Dallas in 6 or 7.

HoopsDrive
04-15-2010, 12:16 AM
Goes to 7.

Chances: Mavs (60%), Spurs (40%).

Joshtd1
04-15-2010, 12:59 AM
I was originally worried about the Mavs matchup due to their previous success..but after watching tonights game, my worries arent really there anymore.

If the Spurs can play as terrible as they did today, without their 2 best players..and still make the game competitive, that gives me plenty of hope against them when were all healthy.

Spurs have been on a tear. I know Mavs fans arent scared of the Spurs, but just keep in mind we arent missing our 2nd best player like we were last year.

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 01:03 AM
I was originally worried about the Mavs matchup due to their previous success..but after watching tonights game, my worries arent really there anymore.

If the Spurs can play as terrible as they did today, without their 2 best players..and still make the game competitive, that gives me plenty of hope against them when were all healthy.

Spurs have been on a tear. I know Mavs fans arent scared of the Spurs, but just keep in mind we arent missing our 2nd best player like we were last year.

I thought Parker played?

Joshtd1
04-15-2010, 01:06 AM
I thought Parker played?

Parker isnt our 2nd best player.

JJ_JKidd
04-15-2010, 01:07 AM
Lakers in 6... Because its gonna be LA and Dallas at the WCF :clap:

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 01:14 AM
Parker isnt our 2nd best player.

lol!

Joshtd1
04-15-2010, 01:16 AM
lol!

Its true. Do you see how much more the team struggles without Manu, then without Parker?

Only thing Parker has on Manu is his speed. Manu does everything else better.

IU Hoosiers 3
04-15-2010, 01:32 AM
i hate ginobili..he's really good..regardless..mavs in 6

SouljahPhil...
04-15-2010, 01:39 AM
My only round 1 upset... Spurs in 6 at most 7...

asmarks18
04-15-2010, 01:46 AM
Mavs in 6

Skizzik
04-15-2010, 01:50 AM
I love how many people love to just call this one the big upset. Can the Spurs win it? Sure, but the odds certainly don't favor it. The Spurs have been eliminated from the playoffs by only two teams in the last DECADE, every other time, they've won the championship. Those teams? The Lakers and the Mavs. The Mavs organization, under Cuban, actually built themselves based on what the Spurs were doing. They used the Spurs style and decision making to build their team.

Before you say the obvious difference (defense): Their lack of D through most of the 2000s wasn't due to a lack of effort on the front office's part, but a lack of players willing to commit. Cuban not only used the Spurs as his inspiration for how a franchise should be built, but he also built his team to beat them. There's no team the Mavs feel better about facing than the Spurs, because it's the one they know the best and the one they've had the number of for most of the last half of the decade.

Not to mention, using tonight's game as an example is a bit weak, considering it was pretty obvious they played down to their competition (which is something the Mavs have had a tendency to do all season against lesser competition (in this case, the Spurs B team + Parker and Jefferson). In the playoffs, they might choke, but if they do, I don't see it coming versus the Spurs. If there's one team the Mavs will rise to the challenge of, it's the Spurs. The Spurs to them is a rivalry on the level of Sox/Yanks (not to everyone else, but to these two teams).

Not to mention, including tonight's win, we're 3-1 on them this season. Duncan has slowed down since the all-star break (go check the stats). Hill hurt his ankle tonight. Can ANYONE trust Manu to stay healthy physically or mentally (if you wonder what I mean, go to the 2006 game 7 final score in regulation). And Parker looked tired tonight.

I respect the Spurs, but logically speaking, this is the team the Mavs wanted. Mavs win in 5 or 6.

asmarks18
04-15-2010, 01:54 AM
Yes Josh you have your "2nd best player" so with that being said the Mavs aren't improved from last years series too? Sorry but Butler Marion and Haywood is a bit better than the scrubs last year that beat you like Antione Wright Josh Howard and Ryan Hollins. So our improved team cancels out you being healthy infact our improvements are so much better it blows you having Manu back out of the water. Mavs in 6 IMO but that might be generous.

SouljahPhil...
04-15-2010, 01:56 AM
This would be the best 1st round series in these years playoffs...

Spurred1
04-15-2010, 02:00 AM
Hard to say-I think both teams actually wanted each other for the playoffs. I think it'll be Mavs in 6 or 7, but I'm not going to be surprised if the Spurs pull it off. It isn't going to be easy for either team. It wouldn't be an upset either, considering how close the Western Conference is. The only upset would be Thunder beating the Lakers, but I don't see that happening.
And anyone thinking that Parker is the Spurs' second best player...come on. Manu and Timmy are the best ones.

Chronz
04-15-2010, 03:02 AM
Oh really, didn't look to me like they purposely lost. If you think the Spurs want any part of playing the Mavs you are damn wrong.
Looked like it to me


$50 pay pal bet? Being 100% serious.
What guarantee do I have that your a man of your word?


you guys really think so? It could happen but I don't see it....Duncan just looks completely worn down to me. Mavs are hungry and have lots of depth

Worn down? Hes having a better year than Dirk, though he has slowed of late. With the Big 3 back he wont have to carry the load.

Chronz
04-15-2010, 03:03 AM
Yes Josh you have your "2nd best player" so with that being said the Mavs aren't improved from last years series too? Sorry but Butler Marion and Haywood is a bit better than the scrubs last year that beat you like Antione Wright Josh Howard and Ryan Hollins. So our improved team cancels out you being healthy infact our improvements are so much better it blows you having Manu back out of the water. Mavs in 6 IMO but that might be generous.

By what measure do they cancel out?

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 03:08 AM
Looked like it to me


What guarantee do I have that your a man of your word?



Worn down? Hes having a better year than Dirk, though he has slowed of late. With the Big 3 back he wont have to carry the load.

I could ask the same for you but I'm willing to trust.

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 03:08 AM
and a big LOL @ Duncan having a better year than Dirk.

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 03:09 AM
Duncan won't even be on an All NBA team this year.

asmarks18
04-15-2010, 03:17 AM
By what measure do they cancel out?

Well hes bragging how they have Manu and are improved from last seasons playoffs. Well what the hell? We aren't? Sure they didn't have Ginobli last postseason but hey we didn't have Marion, Butler and Haywood did we? So how big of an impact can Manu's return possibly be? I am not just saying they cancel each other out. We are clearly the better team with or without the Spurs having Ginobli so with Josh saying we won't be missing our 2nd best player is really kind of a stupid thing to say. It would be an alright thing the say if the Mavs didn't make any roster moves. Because then he playing could be a series deciding move. But we did make significant changess so I find his post to be rather ridiculous.

Chronz
04-15-2010, 03:21 AM
and a big LOL @ Duncan having a better year than Dirk.
They say laughing at facts is a sign of lunacy


I could ask the same for you but I'm willing to trust.
I know Ill pay up, Im not sold on the loon

kblo247
04-15-2010, 03:23 AM
Riding with Spurs in this one.

I just see Parker and Ginobili going throwback and killing Dallas's back court personally. I also think the breaks between games benefits the Spurs big 3 a lot more.

Duncan slid towards the end from carrying the Spurs through Parker and Manu's injuries but before the slide happened he was the best center in the NBA bar none.

Chronz
04-15-2010, 03:25 AM
Well hes bragging how they have Manu and are improved from last seasons playoffs. Well what the hell? We aren't? Sure they didn't have Ginobli last postseason but hey we didn't have Marion, Butler and Haywood did we? So how big of an impact can Manu's return possibly be? I am not just saying they cancel each other out. We are clearly the better team with or without the Spurs having Ginobli so with Josh saying we won't be missing our 2nd best player is really kind of a stupid thing to say.
I know what your trying to say, Im saying by what MEASURE? Surely theres an attempt to quantify their additions somewhere in your logic despite naming names with no context. I know how Id go about atleast trying, and I dont see the CLEARLY that your talking about. Manu is that good, though TP not being healthy hurts almost as much. Im betting alot on the fact that hes atleast 80% as good as he was last year


Duncan won't even be on an All NBA team this year.
Wanna bet, hes going to rob some F and some undeserving C will make it because the voters still dont know Duncan is a Center.

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 03:28 AM
They say laughing at facts is a sign of lunacy


I know Ill pay up, Im not sold on the loon

Whoever doesn't pay up leaves PSD for good. Don't make excuses, just make the bet.

asmarks18
04-15-2010, 03:28 AM
Oh man you NBA fans are crazy. No respect for the Mavs. You never do and you never will. If Dirk made a 3 point buzzer beater in game 7 of the NBA finals against the Cavs you would still say hes not clutch. If Kidd got 20 steals in one game most of you would probably still say he sucks on defense. :laugh: If Cuban convinced oh I dont know Lebron James to come to Dallas most of you would still think Cuban is a moron. Too funny.

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 03:29 AM
I know what your trying to say, Im saying by what MEASURE? Surely theres an attempt to quantify their additions somewhere in your logic despite naming names with no context. I know how Id go about atleast trying, and I dont see the CLEARLY that your talking about. Manu is that good, though TP not being healthy hurts almost as much. Im betting alot on the fact that hes atleast 80% as good as he was last year


Wanna bet, hes going to rob some F and some undeserving C will make it because the voters still dont know Duncan is a Center.

I'll bet only if you accept mine.

J-Relo
04-15-2010, 03:41 AM
i love Spurs as possible second round matchup for Suns

asmarks18
04-15-2010, 03:42 AM
:facepalm:

JJ_JKidd
04-15-2010, 03:53 AM
i love Spurs as possible second round matchup for Suns

What has the Suns done with their how many times that theyre in the playoffs since the Nash era? None. Always faltering, just like the Sun always fading as they get deeper into the playoffs.

kblo247
04-15-2010, 04:03 AM
What has the Suns done with their how many times that theyre in the playoffs since the Nash era? None. Always faltering, just like the Sun always fading as they get deeper into the playoffs.

Does a Mavs fan really want to open that can of worms?

I mean you can play what if all you want outside of J.Kidd (love that man)

Butler isn't known for showing up in the playoffs
Marion has been taken advantage of in the playoffs and he has declined
Dampier will always be a crap shoot, but he is playing for money
Haywood had trouble in the playoffs out east and the west's bigs are better
The rook is just that a rook
JJ is still a liability
Najera is the Mexican Mark Madsen

Terry finding his form is always a plus so I won't doubt him either.

Then it comes down to Carlisle and Dirk. Carlisle has never won and in fact he has been out coached dating back to his time in Detroit when things matter the most. Dirk is Dirk. He can take a game over, he can make someone his *****, he can give someone hell, but don't act like Dirk's nuts haven't shriveled up versus the Warriors, Heat, Spurs, and even Hornets in the past. He is a crap shoot as you never know what you will get mentality wise in the postseason and haven't known since he got hurt years ago in 03.

Joshtd1
04-15-2010, 04:10 AM
Yes Josh you have your "2nd best player" so with that being said the Mavs aren't improved from last years series too? Sorry but Butler Marion and Haywood is a bit better than the scrubs last year that beat you like Antione Wright Josh Howard and Ryan Hollins. So our improved team cancels out you being healthy infact our improvements are so much better it blows you having Manu back out of the water. Mavs in 6 IMO but that might be generous.

Sure, you have your improvements..but Josh Howard has always been a Spurs killer. Butler is the better player, but it remains to be seen if he will hurt the Spurs the same way Howard did.

Marion, meh..not sure if you ever watched the Suns/Spurs playoffs, but Marion ALWAYS has played terrible in the playoffs against us.

Haywood would be just another big body to foul Duncan. He couldnt even guard Blair/Mahinmi tonight, what makes you think he can guard Duncan? He didnt have success in Washington either against us.

JayW_1023
04-15-2010, 04:13 AM
My heart wants a Spurs win, but as a realist, I think the Mavs will prevail in six games. I really hope I'm wrong though.

J-Relo
04-15-2010, 04:14 AM
What has the Suns done with their how many times that theyre in the playoffs since the Nash era? None. Always faltering, just like the Sun always fading as they get deeper into the playoffs.

at this point i believe Mavs are a better team than Spurs, so if Suns advances i would rather have Spurs, some rivalry right here... even though Spurs had beaten us in the playoffs i would still take them and show what we got...


PS: what about MAvs struggling in the playoffs?

Joshtd1
04-15-2010, 04:15 AM
Well hes bragging how they have Manu and are improved from last seasons playoffs. Well what the hell? We aren't? Sure they didn't have Ginobli last postseason but hey we didn't have Marion, Butler and Haywood did we? So how big of an impact can Manu's return possibly be? I am not just saying they cancel each other out. We are clearly the better team with or without the Spurs having Ginobli so with Josh saying we won't be missing our 2nd best player is really kind of a stupid thing to say. It would be an alright thing the say if the Mavs didn't make any roster moves. Because then he playing could be a series deciding move. But we did make significant changess so I find his post to be rather ridiculous.

My point on the post was that because the Mavs beat the Spurs 4-1, without our 2nd best player, Mavs fans think that they owned us. If the Mavs beat us this year with our guys in the same fashion as last year, then it will be considered ownage. I cant really even think if the Mavs have played us all year with the Spurs having their best players.

Joshtd1
04-15-2010, 04:17 AM
By the way..its all about matchups.

Dallas was the better team in 06-07..but the Warriors just had their number, and looked what happened.

I just think this year, Spurs will get their revenge. We have all the pieces. I think we matchup just fine compared to last year.

Chronz
04-15-2010, 04:18 AM
Whoever doesn't pay up leaves PSD for good. Don't make excuses, just make the bet.
You leaving isnt going to put 50 bucks in my pocket and not worth risking my money. Lets open up a swiss bank account

JayW_1023
04-15-2010, 04:27 AM
Well hes bragging how they have Manu and are improved from last seasons playoffs. Well what the hell? We aren't? Sure they didn't have Ginobli last postseason but hey we didn't have Marion, Butler and Haywood did we? So how big of an impact can Manu's return possibly be? I am not just saying they cancel each other out. We are clearly the better team with or without the Spurs having Ginobli so with Josh saying we won't be missing our 2nd best player is really kind of a stupid thing to say. It would be an alright thing the say if the Mavs didn't make any roster moves. Because then he playing could be a series deciding move. But we did make significant changess so I find his post to be rather ridiculous.

Difference is, you know that Manu will bring it. When he is healthy and in the postseason, he always turns it on. Can Haywood, Butler and Marion (who has a rep of disappearing in the postseason) do the same?

GoatMilk
04-15-2010, 04:35 AM
I like the Spurs in the not-so-upset-upset

JiffyMix88
04-15-2010, 04:52 AM
probably going to be the most boring match up of all the first round but i know ppl in texas love this series

JayW_1023
04-15-2010, 05:12 AM
probably going to be the most boring match up of all the first round but i know ppl in texas love this series

You clearly don't appreciate history, bub.

These two teams have been through the wars. I remember that first time with Van Exel being on a tear and Sir Charles telling the Mavs to go fishing. Dirk unfortunately got hurt and put a damper on the series.

Then that legendary series where Manu sorta cost the Spurs the series. Painful to watch. Duncan owned the Mavs frontcourt on practically one leg, but the ball bounced the wrong way. The Mavs were the better team in the end.

Last season was a dud, mainly because the Spurs were undermanned. But this year, the Spurs look ready to even the score.

Skizzik
04-15-2010, 06:03 AM
You clearly don't appreciate history, bub.

These two teams have been through the wars. I remember that first time with Van Exel being on a tear and Sir Charles telling the Mavs to go fishing. Dirk unfortunately got hurt and put a damper on the series.

Then that legendary series where Manu sorta cost the Spurs the series. Painful to watch. Duncan owned the Mavs frontcourt on practically one leg, but the ball bounced the wrong way. The Mavs were the better team in the end.

Last season was a dud, mainly because the Spurs were undermanned. But this year, the Spurs look ready to even the score.

I don't agree with your idea they'll even the score. ;) But I will agree that last year definitely doesn't count for much of anything. I mean, forget that Manu didn't play...it was literally Duncan and Parker and no one else...I felt kind of bad for those two. Drop 60-70 points and have no support. But yeah, there's no games I look forward to more than the Spurs/Mavs. In the best of the decade vote for ESPN, the 2006 playoff series was voted the best playoff series of the decade.

todu82
04-15-2010, 09:07 AM
Dallas in 7

thedfactor
04-15-2010, 09:08 AM
Spurs are a terror for several teams in the West, but Dallas isn't one of them anymore.

They are former champions and know how to win with the rather similar core, but even with Manu back and some other additions, the Mavericks have loaded up themselves.

The Mavs team has ultra confidence against SA and the veteran leadership and skill to handle them. Scary thing is, the Mavs can go in SA and win just as well as at home. However, a sweep is out of question. That would be embarrassing for the Spurs.

Dallas in 5.

DirkIsTheBest
04-15-2010, 09:13 AM
Spurs will get their revenge.
Spurs in 6

JiffyMix88
04-15-2010, 09:33 AM
You clearly don't appreciate history, bub.

These two teams have been through the wars. I remember that first time with Van Exel being on a tear and Sir Charles telling the Mavs to go fishing. Dirk unfortunately got hurt and put a damper on the series.

Then that legendary series where Manu sorta cost the Spurs the series. Painful to watch. Duncan owned the Mavs frontcourt on practically one leg, but the ball bounced the wrong way. The Mavs were the better team in the end.

Last season was a dud, mainly because the Spurs were undermanned. But this year, the Spurs look ready to even the score.

thats a lot of history you just pointed out. lol. outside of the last couple of years they dont have any memorable series. but like i said outside of ppl in texas or ppl who are mavs and spurs fans this is prolly gonna be the least talked about series

Fool
04-15-2010, 09:36 AM
Mavs in 6.

Young2Kinsler
04-15-2010, 09:43 AM
People using last nights game for reasoning that the Spurs will win is hilarious. Yes, the Spurs sat Duncan and Ginobili, but you could OBVIOUSLY tell Dallas was pretty deflated when they heard the Spurs weren't going to play for the win. Despite a miserable start and poor defense all night, Dallas still won.

I'm not saying the Spurs aren't a good team, they are great, but they have shown me nothing recently that tells me they are better than Dallas

Raidaz4Life
04-15-2010, 09:45 AM
Mavs in 6

MagicDojo
04-15-2010, 11:02 AM
Dallas is lucky Parker is hurt.

m26555
04-15-2010, 11:41 AM
Dallas in seven.

m26555
04-15-2010, 11:41 AM
Dallas is lucky Parker is hurt.
Parker has been back for a little while now.

Avenged
04-15-2010, 11:44 AM
probably going to be the most boring match up of all the first round but i know ppl in texas love this series

I'm actually looking forward to this series the most. I have a feeling it's going to be a long one and not as easy as the Mavs fans think. I got the Mavs winning this series though.

Also with all the trash talk on PSD about this game, I wanna see reactions when one of them loses. :laugh2:

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 11:45 AM
You leaving isnt going to put 50 bucks in my pocket and not worth risking my money. Lets open up a swiss bank account

Stop making excuses and just make the bet. I guarantee you I will pay. Everyone can see this post. Print screen it, do whatever. Either make the bet or back out.

drama1386
04-15-2010, 11:57 AM
i'm taking mavs in 5.

Wilson
04-15-2010, 12:05 PM
I edited the first post in this thread to add the projected starting line ups and stuff. If I made any mistakes with the projected starters, please let me know. I'm not sure what's happening as far as injuries and stuff.

yanks19791024
04-15-2010, 12:08 PM
Mavs in 7

Chronz
04-15-2010, 12:12 PM
Stop making excuses and just make the bet. I guarantee you I will pay. Everyone can see this post. Print screen it, do whatever. Either make the bet or back out.
LOL so long as those excuses are valid I wont stop using them. I really have no interest in putting up money when theres a strong chance the other guy isnt a man of his word. You keep giving me more ammo by saying the guy who doesnt pay leaves this site, oh wow big deal so you can create another account. And I wouldnt leave anyways, only way Im making this bet is if we find a way around these issues.

Heck if your so gung ho about it why not just donate 50bucks to my paypal and if I lose Ill send you back 100$. You willing to take that risk?

chin chukwu
04-15-2010, 12:23 PM
it's very simple: the mavs won last year's series because 1) ginobili was not 100%. 2) george hill was rookie---still learning. 3) brandon bass' activity down low. 4) spurs had no one to match up with josh howard.

this year ginobili is looking like ginobili. goerge hill is a starter (if he stays healthy). the mavs got rid of brandon bass (still don't understand why). and they traded josh howard.

SPURS get it done in 6.

ElMarroAfamado
04-15-2010, 12:46 PM
MUWAH HAHA

Classic Vegas bet, Im taking this one to the bank. Spurs are taking this yall

:facepalm:

Chronz
04-15-2010, 12:50 PM
:facepalm:

You want some of this pie?

lakerssssssss
04-15-2010, 01:28 PM
Spurs in 7.

alencp3
04-15-2010, 03:09 PM
timmy in 7

td0tsfinest
04-15-2010, 03:22 PM
spurs in 6.

I got a good feeling.

jimbobjarree
04-15-2010, 03:23 PM
spurs in 7

Gibby23
04-15-2010, 03:24 PM
Spurs in 6.

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 03:54 PM
Who's man enough for a pay pal money bet?

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 03:58 PM
LOL so long as those excuses are valid I wont stop using them. I really have no interest in putting up money when theres a strong chance the other guy isnt a man of his word. You keep giving me more ammo by saying the guy who doesnt pay leaves this site, oh wow big deal so you can create another account. And I wouldnt leave anyways, only way Im making this bet is if we find a way around these issues.

Heck if your so gung ho about it why not just donate 50bucks to my paypal and if I lose Ill send you back 100$. You willing to take that risk?

I'm not just giving you $50 and expecting $100 back. Bets don't work like that. If you want we can each send $5 to eachother right now just to know eachothers accounts and know the bet is legit. Everyone can see this. Obviously who ever doesn't pay up will be the laughing stock of PSD. Just agree to the damn bet and let's move on.

MYBULLS
04-15-2010, 03:58 PM
I really want to see Dallas in the WCF. Mavs in 7.

Chronz
04-15-2010, 04:20 PM
I'm not just giving you $50 and expecting $100 back. Bets don't work like that. If you want we can each send $5 to eachother right now just to know eachothers accounts and know the bet is legit. Everyone can see this. Obviously who ever doesn't pay up will be the laughing stock of PSD. Just agree to the damn bet and let's move on.
Bets work however you want to make them work, and you keep giving me these weak signs of collateral. Really laughing stock of PSD? Just like leaving PSD, this isnt worth the risk. If you lose Im not convinced any of this **** matters, I know I wouldnt care. So 50bucks or what? This series shouldnt last too long anyways.

ronaldsmith_86
04-15-2010, 04:24 PM
Even though i'm pulling for my spurs ima say mavs in 6

DirkIsTheBest
04-15-2010, 04:28 PM
Spurs in 6

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 04:40 PM
Bets work however you want to make them work, and you keep giving me these weak signs of collateral. Really laughing stock of PSD? Just like leaving PSD, this isnt worth the risk. If you lose Im not convinced any of this **** matters, I know I wouldnt care. So 50bucks or what? This series shouldnt last too long anyways.

This convo is going no where. Just say yes or no.

Gibby23
04-15-2010, 04:52 PM
This convo is going no where. Just say yes or no.

I tried that line on a girl at a club. It didn't work.

ballpd05
04-15-2010, 05:03 PM
i tried that line on a girl at a club. It didn't work.

lol

Mavrix
04-15-2010, 05:08 PM
I tried that line on a girl at a club. It didn't work.You made me lol in the middle of my Sociology class :clap:

ElMarroAfamado
04-15-2010, 05:15 PM
people picking the spurs are delusional

Ryan328
04-15-2010, 06:12 PM
Mavs in six

DCB/LAL
04-15-2010, 08:33 PM
Spurs are a good team who will put up a solid fight but in the end I believe the Mavs will just be too much I got the Mavs in 6.

Chronz
04-15-2010, 11:32 PM
people picking the spurs are delusional
OHHHH K there bud, you keep thinking that

kblo247
04-15-2010, 11:33 PM
people picking the spurs are delusional

Yeah Parker, Duncan, and Ginobili are known for choking more in the playoffs than Dirk, Marion, Butler, Haywood, and Dampier :eyebrow:

Joshtd1
04-16-2010, 12:53 AM
Cant wait for this series to start already.

Mavrix
04-16-2010, 01:02 AM
I wish someone would make a damn bet with me.

PHX2daDEATH
04-16-2010, 01:21 AM
I wish someone would make a damn bet with me.

you just wait until round 2 buddy

Mavrix
04-16-2010, 01:49 AM
you just wait until round 2 buddy

LOL. Mavs own the Suns too.

Mavrix
04-16-2010, 01:49 AM
Mavs will have a cakewalk until the WCF

DirkIsTheBest
04-16-2010, 01:53 AM
Mavs will have a cakewalk until the WCF

:laugh::silly:
Keep dreaming. Mavs will lose in the first round.

Mavrix
04-16-2010, 02:35 AM
:laugh::silly:
Keep dreaming. Mavs will lose in the first round.

Coming from the chick that said the Mavs wouldn't make the playoffs LOL

MagicDojo
04-16-2010, 08:48 AM
Yeah Parker, Duncan, and Ginobili are known for choking more in the playoffs than Dirk, Marion, Butler, Haywood, and Dampier :eyebrow:

Is Parker coming back in time for Playoffs?

DodgerorLaker?
04-16-2010, 09:19 AM
I'm going to laugh @ Cuban and the softy Mavs after the old savy vets (Spurs) beat them in the 1st round. Spurs in 7 I see it........

DodgerorLaker?
04-16-2010, 09:21 AM
Mavs will have a cakewalk until the WCF


Pretty confident for a team that hasn't ever done anything! The Spurs will win this series in 7 and you necks will be crying like a couple of years ago when the Warriors spanked you in the 1st round.:clap:

DodgerorLaker?
04-16-2010, 09:25 AM
By no means am I a Mavs homer, but this is a bad matchup for the Spurs. Of course they could win, the Spurs are always great. That being said, I'll take Dallas in 5


I'm a Lakers fan and that is being a homer, or you know nothing about basketball? Mavs might win the series but not in 5---LOL!!!! matchups? who is going to contain Duncan? Haywood? LOL, who is going to contain Manu? the Mavs don't play enough defense and the Spurs still can play soid Defense. Like I said the Mavs have a great chance to win but they're not going to win in 5, your drunk.

holocaust227
04-16-2010, 10:28 AM
I'm a Lakers fan and that is being a homer, or you know nothing about basketball? Mavs might win the series but not in 5---LOL!!!! matchups? who is going to contain Duncan? Haywood? LOL, who is going to contain Manu? the Mavs don't play enough defense and the Spurs still can play soid Defense. Like I said the Mavs have a great chance to win but they're not going to win in 5, your drunk.

The Mavs don't play enough defense? We'll see then..

DodgerorLaker?
04-16-2010, 10:37 AM
The Mavs don't play enough defense? We'll see then..


Yup, when have they ever? until they do I'm not buying the wolf tickets.

Point Blank
04-16-2010, 11:19 AM
:laugh::silly:
Keep dreaming. Mavs will lose in the first round.

What kind of fan are you? lol

Young2Kinsler
04-16-2010, 01:06 PM
Yup, when have they ever? until they do I'm not buying the wolf tickets.

You seem stuck in 2005 or something. Dallas isn't a top 5 defensive team or anything, but neither is SA.

People like Mavrix are ignorant for calling anything a cake walk, but I still think Dallas is a better team.

Jahari Kavi
04-16-2010, 01:51 PM
Mavs in 6

IndiansFan337
04-16-2010, 02:29 PM
Mavs in 6.

kblo247
04-16-2010, 03:20 PM
Is Parker coming back in time for Playoffs?

Parker was back for basically the last 6 games of the season. He just got eased back in off the bench to get his legs back.


Date Opponent Score GS Min M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts


Apr 14 @ DAL L 89-96 0 29:25 6 16 37.5 1 1 100.0 3 4 75.0 0 2 2 4 3 1 0 1 16
Apr 12 MIN W 133-111 0 22:43 5 8 62.5 0 0 N/A 2 4 50.0 0 3 3 7 1 1 0 2 12
Apr 10 @ DEN W 104-85 0 30:43 5 12 41.7 0 1 0.0 2 3 66.7 0 2 2 6 5 0 0 1 12
Apr 9 MEM L 99-107 0 25:40 5 10 50.0 0 1 0.0 3 6 50.0 0 1 1 8 2 0 0 1 13
Apr 7 @ PHO L 101-112 0 24:38 5 10 50.0 0 0 N/A 0 0 N/A 1 2 3 5 2 0 0 3 10
Apr 6 @ SAC W 95-86 0 16:42 3 8 37.5 0 1 0.0 2 2 100.0 0 3 3 2 4 0 0 1 8

Joshtd1
04-16-2010, 04:00 PM
Parker is back, and will most likely come off the bench due to the great chemistry Hill/Manu/RJ got while starting.

Parker will eat anyone on the Mavs bench trying to guard him.

Skizzik
04-16-2010, 06:16 PM
I love the argument about how the Mavs have never won a title so they can't beat the Spurs with their four rings (which they have in the season series and playoffs multiple times). The main reason that I find it amusing is because...using the logic a team can't win due to the fact it hasn't yet...well, why is it that the Lakers don't win every year? They have the most experience as a franchise...meanwhile, Orlando and Cleveland? No chance...they've never won the Finals. In fact, they just limp out of the weak eastern conference.

I mean, anyone who uses rings as proof why a team would beat another team is just flawed. If only the team with rings wins every time, there would never be a new champion. Look at 2006 when the Heat knock off the Pistons and the Mavs knocked off the Spurs...TWO teams in the Finals who had zero championships. You don't have to have a ring to make it to the Finals or to even win a playoff series.

BlondeBomber41
04-16-2010, 06:23 PM
To JoshTD1... Was too lazy to quote.

I look forward to watching the Spurs try and guard Rodrigue Beaubois. Devin Harris was the Spurs worst nightmare as a Mav, and Beaubois is already just as dangerous a scorer as Harris was during his time as a Maverick.

JordansBulls
04-16-2010, 07:46 PM
This is the first time the Mavs have ever had the HCA over San Antonio. Other times they met in 2003, 2006, 2009 the Spurs had the HCA.

BlondeBomber41
04-16-2010, 07:56 PM
The Mavs have the Spurs number, period. Just wait and see, it will be a 5, maybe 6 game series with the Mavs winning.

bigmac8675
04-16-2010, 09:33 PM
Mavs win in 5.... not really a good series as SA shows their age.

Joshtd1
04-17-2010, 03:37 AM
To JoshTD1... Was too lazy to quote.

I look forward to watching the Spurs try and guard Rodrigue Beaubois. Devin Harris was the Spurs worst nightmare as a Mav, and Beaubois is already just as dangerous a scorer as Harris was during his time as a Maverick.

Im sure the Spurs wont worry about that too much..its not gonna be hard to guard a guy that will play like 5 mins a game. I know how Carlisle doesnt play him a whole lot.

DirkIsTheBest
04-17-2010, 03:52 AM
To JoshTD1... Was too lazy to quote.

I look forward to watching the Spurs try and guard Rodrigue Beaubois. Devin Harris was the Spurs worst nightmare as a Mav, and Beaubois is already just as dangerous a scorer as Harris was during his time as a Maverick.

Roddy will not play in this series at all. Carlisle hates him.

JayW_1023
04-17-2010, 04:16 AM
The Mavs have the Spurs number, period. Just wait and see, it will be a 5, maybe 6 game series with the Mavs winning.

You think The Spurs don't remember that? If Manu has series like he did in 2005...it prolly won't matter which defender you throw at him. He already dropped 43 on the Magic, and defensively, The Mavs ain't no Orlando.

Plus it remains to be seen if Haywood can slow Duncan in the postseason...Dampier certainly hasn't been successful in the past. Duncan is declining, but the Mavs still have no one who can play him straight up.

Both these teams are different from the ones in the past...so predicting a Mavs win just because they had our number is kind of strange. It's a new season, a new series.

As much as I love Dirk, he isn't as mobile as he used to be, so he won't exploit the Spurs defense like in the past. If he is anything other than lights out the Spurs will put themselves in a position to win.

Meanwhile, no player in this series can match Manu's competitiveness.

heathonater
04-17-2010, 04:50 AM
i think the mavs have the better team, but this series will be difficult and i could see it going 6 or 7 games.

BlondeBomber41
04-17-2010, 04:55 AM
You think The Spurs don't remember that? If Manu has series like he did in 2005...it prolly won't matter which defender you throw at him. He already dropped 43 on the Magic, and defensively, The Mavs ain't no Orlando.

Plus it remains to be seen if Haywood can slow Duncan in the postseason...Dampier certainly hasn't been successful in the past. Duncan is declining, but the Mavs still have no one who can play him straight up.

Both these teams are different from the ones in the past...so predicting a Mavs win just because they had our number is kind of strange. It's a new season, a new series.

As much as I love Dirk, he isn't as mobile as he used to be, so he won't exploit the Spurs defense like in the past. If he is anything other than lights out the Spurs will put themselves in a position to win.

Meanwhile, no player in this series can match Manu's competitiveness.

The Spurs have absolutely no answer for Dirk Nowitzki, even more so than the Mavs have trouble with Duncan. So that shouldn't be too big of a problem.

Really the only significant change to the Spurs roster of years past is Richard Jefferson, and alot of the times he has been completely ineffective for the Spurs. He is suppose to be a scorer but he scores no more than Shawn Marion, who pretty much never gets any sort of play ran for him.

On the other hand this Mavs team is vastly improved from last seasons team that handled the Spurs easily then... so I am pretty confident we'll be able to handle things comfortably this time around also.

It wont look that way. Every game is gonna end like 99-92 and 102-97 but 4 out of 5 times the higher number is gonna represent the Mavs :)

BlondeBomber41
04-17-2010, 04:58 AM
Im sure the Spurs wont worry about that too much..its not gonna be hard to guard a guy that will play like 5 mins a game. I know how Carlisle doesnt play him a whole lot.

Oh he'll play, and he'll contribute. I guarantee there will at least be once or twice in this series he goes on a little run almost all by himself to give the Mavs a big lift. Carlisle plays him more than you think... he just does it in a weird way. He'll give him good minutes one night and then like 2 the next. Dont know why, but he'll make his impact.

JayW_1023
04-17-2010, 07:08 AM
The Spurs have absolutely no answer for Dirk Nowitzki, even more so than the Mavs have trouble with Duncan. So that shouldn't be too big of a problem.

Really the only significant change to the Spurs roster of years past is Richard Jefferson, and alot of the times he has been completely ineffective for the Spurs. He is suppose to be a scorer but he scores no more than Shawn Marion, who pretty much never gets any sort of play ran for him.

On the other hand this Mavs team is vastly improved from last seasons team that handled the Spurs easily then... so I am pretty confident we'll be able to handle things comfortably this time around also.

It wont look that way. Every game is gonna end like 99-92 and 102-97 but 4 out of 5 times the higher number is gonna represent the Mavs :)

I'm not so sure. We have alot of defenders to throw at Dirk. Dice, Jefferson, Duncan, Bonner or Blair will give Dirk lots of different looks. Meanwhile, this Spurs team is much more athletic than the past years. We have Manu (who is still quick), Hill, Parker, Junior and RJ...who can all run the floor.

In the past the Mavs edge in quickness gave us fits...but after giving up Josh Howard and adding Butler makes that playing field even. Don't forget that the Spurs have been playing extremely well down the stretch, while the Mavs have been inconsistent at best.

Tim Duncan produced with awesome efficiency this season despite playing only limited minutes. Imagine how much damage he will do playing the same minutes as Dirk. As a result of more rest Timmy is entering the postseason fresher and healthier than past years.

So I wouldn't be all that confident seeing how Duncan has dominated the Mavs despite nagging injuries. Cause this time he is healthy.

BaseballBoy1811
04-17-2010, 11:43 PM
Spurs in 4.

A_Hipster
04-17-2010, 11:45 PM
I vwoted Mavs in a digital sweeptztakes.

A_Hipster
04-17-2010, 11:46 PM
Diurk Nowitzki will put the bang bang on Timmo Dunkin.

He will boom boom bang bang on the Sperz bekwuz the Mavericks are far superior than the Sperz.

Vampire Wochenende ♥ rulez the muzik radio

tdunk21
04-17-2010, 11:52 PM
spurs in 7.....dirk will choke like he did in 06 finals and the series against warriors....

ldc62
04-18-2010, 12:37 AM
Mavs in 5!!! I'm picking them to win it all this year.

BlondeBomber41
04-18-2010, 12:54 AM
spurs in 7.....dirk will choke like he did in 06 finals and the series against warriors....

I'll be sure to bring this back up when Dirk absolutely dominates this series. Ignorance at its best.

tdunk21
04-18-2010, 01:01 AM
I'll be sure to bring this back up when Dirk absolutely dominates this series. Ignorance at its best.

am sorry my friend if u think dirk will save the mavs he would have saved the 06 finals or the warriors series....never seen dirk's dominance but am sure mavs will get a taste of a healthy spurs team unlike last year where manu missed the series...figure out stoppin manu, timmy

still1ballin
04-18-2010, 01:04 AM
I think Carmella Bing can def. have an influence on this match up especially the way the Mavs have been playing.

A_Hipster
04-18-2010, 01:12 AM
I think Carmella Bing can def. have an influence on this match up especially the way the Mavs have been playing.

Jey Jey's Baraya will penetrate all over Carmella's Bing. He can go deep inside really realy fast like boom boom bang bang.

BlondeBomber41
04-18-2010, 02:32 AM
am sorry my friend if u think dirk will save the mavs he would have saved the 06 finals or the warriors series....never seen dirk's dominance but am sure mavs will get a taste of a healthy spurs team unlike last year where manu missed the series...figure out stoppin manu, timmy

So the fact that Dirk routinely just SHREDS the Spurs into a million pieces is gonna get totally ignored by you? Great logic. Its just pure ignorance. Dirk is a great playoff performer. Your narrow minded view would be like saying Kobe was a bad playoff performer based on the 2004 Finals against Detroit.

SaltyLover
04-18-2010, 02:45 AM
Mavs in 5. This year is the year we finally win it all.

ldc62
04-18-2010, 03:02 AM
I dont see how they can lose... No one can guard Dirk.

A_Hipster
04-18-2010, 03:04 AM
Duirk is far too superior. He has the master plan genius to beat anyone.

Hey Man
04-18-2010, 03:20 AM
Mavs take it in 7

BaseballBoy1811
04-18-2010, 08:45 AM
I really don't understand why anyone would think the Mavs could win. How many rings do they have? How many does San Antonio have?

That's what I thought.

X12Celtics3
04-18-2010, 09:03 AM
I really don't understand why anyone would think the Mavs could win. How many rings do they have? How many does San Antonio have?

That's what I thought.

...that has absolutely nothing to do with San Antonio's chances to win NOW, since the team is completely different now. Theres no way that you think they are as good now as they were five years ago...

I do still think they have a chance to win, but I don't think it will happen.

FaM0us Skins
04-18-2010, 02:55 PM
spurs in 7 hopefully

Mavrix
04-18-2010, 03:24 PM
I really don't understand why anyone would think the Mavs could win. How many rings do they have? How many does San Antonio have?

That's what I thought.

Were you saying that last season too? And in 2006?

That's what I thought.

BaseballBoy1811
04-18-2010, 04:49 PM
Were you saying that last season too? And in 2006?

That's what I thought.

Look at how good Ginobili is right now. All the analysts are saying he's one of the best players in the league. Duncan is already regarded as one of the greatest players of all time and Parker is too good to be controlled. Add that with Hill, Blair, and Jefferson and, dare I say it- you've got a team comparable to the mid-nineties Chicago Bulls.

The Spurs have been waiting all season to come together and tonight they are going to show the world just how well they can play.

heathonater
04-18-2010, 05:05 PM
Look at how good Ginobili is right now. All the analysts are saying he's one of the best players in the league. Duncan is already regarded as one of the greatest players of all time and Parker is too good to be controlled. Add that with Hill, Blair, and Jefferson and, dare I say it- you've got a team comparable to the mid-nineties Chicago Bulls.

The Spurs have been waiting all season to come together and tonight they are going to show the world just how well they can play.

oh dear god.

thapharcyd
04-18-2010, 05:09 PM
Let's go Spurs!! Would like to see SAS-PHX round 2.

ElMarroAfamado
04-18-2010, 06:35 PM
people picking the Spurs are delusional
Mavs in 3

ElMarroAfamado
04-18-2010, 06:36 PM
i dont know who i cant wait to get eliminated more the cavs or the spurs...

Angel2Maverick
04-18-2010, 07:12 PM
it's very simple: the mavs won last year's series because 1) ginobili was not 100%. 2) george hill was rookie---still learning. 3) brandon bass' activity down low. 4) spurs had no one to match up with josh howard.

this year ginobili is looking like ginobili. goerge hill is a starter (if he stays healthy). the mavs got rid of brandon bass (still don't understand why). and they traded josh howard.

SPURS get it done in 6.

lol funniest thing I ever read, howard was basically playing with out his ankles, he could barely even walk in that series.

Kakaroach
04-18-2010, 08:24 PM
Spurs look pretty good so far but Mavs are already in the penalty lol.

heathonater
04-18-2010, 08:34 PM
it sure has been awhile since i watched a spurs game. had no idea parker was coming off the bench now.

jimbobjarree
04-18-2010, 09:48 PM
Spurs looking good to steal game 1

ManRam
04-18-2010, 09:49 PM
If they steal this game, I think they win the series.

Iodine
04-18-2010, 09:52 PM
Manu <3

Mavrix
04-18-2010, 10:50 PM
Where is Chronz?

Mavrix
04-18-2010, 10:51 PM
Spurs looking good to steal game 1

Going up 2 mid way through the 3rd quarter made them look good to steal the game? LOL

RadiantShot
04-18-2010, 10:52 PM
Oh God, well never here the end of it.
:bla:

:rolleyes:

;)

asmarks18
04-18-2010, 10:55 PM
Dirk isn't clutch in the playoffs right? LMAO

still1ballin
04-18-2010, 10:56 PM
Oh God, well never here the end of it.
:bla:

:rolleyes:

;)

LOL come on man its playoff basketball!

asmarks18
04-18-2010, 10:56 PM
Spurs in 4.

Delete all his posts and ban user.

RadiantShot
04-18-2010, 10:57 PM
LOL come on man its playoff basketball!

Lol! I know, and I love it! Just don't like too much talk. :3

still1ballin
04-18-2010, 11:00 PM
Lol! I know, and I love it! Just don't like too much talk. :3

Come on, w/o all of this PSD will be no fun

Mavrix
04-18-2010, 11:00 PM
Delete all his posts and ban user.

Maybe it was just a typo and he meant Mavs :shrug:

RadiantShot
04-18-2010, 11:01 PM
^
That's actually pretty true.

Avenged
04-18-2010, 11:01 PM
Dirk. :worthy:

Played out of his mind tonight.

asmarks18
04-18-2010, 11:01 PM
Lol! I know, and I love it! Just don't like too much talk. :3

I dont plan to gloat too much. Because a lot the Spurs fans are respectful and not complete *** holes. But that tool on pages 10 and 11 is just ridiculous. The old number 7 seed Spurs as good as the 90s Bulls? :laugh: Spurs in 4? :laugh: Spurs will kill the Mavs? :laugh:

Avenged
04-18-2010, 11:06 PM
Don't get too confident just yet guys.

Spurs still have a lot of fight in them :p

asmarks18
04-18-2010, 11:08 PM
Don't get too confident just yet guys.

Spurs still have a lot of fight in them :p

True that. They'll atleast win 1. I think we ultimately win in 6 though.

Joshtd1
04-18-2010, 11:12 PM
Atleast it was a good game. If the Spurs lose so be it, as long as all the games are entertaining/exciting. I know the Spurs are declining, but as long as its a good series I will be happy.

Mavrix
04-18-2010, 11:12 PM
True that. They'll atleast win 1. I think we ultimately win in 6 though.

Agreed.

Spurred1
04-18-2010, 11:19 PM
Don't get too confident just yet guys.

Spurs still have a lot of fight in them :p

Anybody with sense knows that. I expect it to be a long battle and either outcome isn't going to be a shocker. These two teams know how to play each other-it is always fun to watch. Dirk played his *** off tonight.

Jason5Kidd5
04-18-2010, 11:23 PM
Dirk Nowitzki with the most impressive game 1 out of all the 1st round series so far (Pheonix and Portland game is on next). :clap:

BlondeBomber41
04-18-2010, 11:25 PM
Pretty much how the whole series will go, just like I predicted. The Mavs will win in 5, MAYBE 6 games but all the games will be close. I think the Spurs steal one at home but thats it.

Avenged
04-18-2010, 11:25 PM
Anybody with sense knows that. I expect it to be a long battle and either outcome isn't going to be a shocker. These two teams know how to play each other-it is always fun to watch. Dirk played his *** off tonight.

Well good to know you have some sense. ;)

Yeah Dirk played great. He has a completely big mismatch on Bonner.

asmarks18
04-18-2010, 11:39 PM
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j200/mrmarks123/Jack-Daniels-label.jpg

asmarks18
04-18-2010, 11:40 PM
^ Cheers!

Chronz
04-18-2010, 11:47 PM
well dirk just had the game of his life so atleast the spurs wont have to worry bout that happening again but jason terry is gonna explode eventually. and if butler plays like this then its over but i doubt he maintains it. i think its time to evaluate just how long they should play g hill. he didnt look good but atleast the big3 are coming together. good game 1 but the pressure is still on the mavs to win the next one look forward to it

asmarks18
04-19-2010, 12:35 AM
well dirk just had the game of his life so atleast the spurs wont have to worry bout that happening again but jason terry is gonna explode eventually. and if butler plays like this then its over but i doubt he maintains it. i think its time to evaluate just how long they should play g hill. he didnt look good but atleast the big3 are coming together. good game 1 but the pressure is still on the mavs to win the next one look forward to it

Game of his life? Come on now. He was great tonight but he didn't even get 40 points. Dirk is more than capable of repeating this performance sometime this series.

IversonIsKrazy
04-19-2010, 12:41 AM
Good game by both teams. Hill, Mason, Blair, Bonner, were are these guys???? The big 3 did their thing tonight, (was not expecting Parker to play this good), although Duncan could've bin better, but without any help of any1 else, and Dirk shooting over 75%FG, Butler hitting the shots he did, it's a good sign that the game itself was close.

Next game, I can see Dirk repeating, and Terry exploding, but hopefully the same will happen to Hill, Blair, Mason, and the surroundings of big 3, and maybe just maybe with Richard Jefferson too! Good game tho!

Avenged
04-19-2010, 12:45 AM
Dirk can definitely repeat his performance if they don't get Bonner some help. He was shooting on him all night.

Skizzik
04-19-2010, 01:18 AM
well dirk just had the game of his life so atleast the spurs wont have to worry bout that happening again but jason terry is gonna explode eventually. and if butler plays like this then its over but i doubt he maintains it. i think its time to evaluate just how long they should play g hill. he didnt look good but atleast the big3 are coming together. good game 1 but the pressure is still on the mavs to win the next one look forward to it

Game of his life? Seriously?

You don't even have to go back very far to see a better series, which is tougher than just one game...remember his last playoff series before this? Last year versus Denver? He got no help, but still, his numbers in that series were better...his points in those 5 games: 28, 35, 33, 44, 32...all while finding out his fiance had more aliases than Jason Bourne. 36 isn't really a big deal for Dirk. He's dropped 50 in the playoffs before.

Mavrix
04-19-2010, 01:19 AM
well dirk just had the game of his life so atleast the spurs wont have to worry bout that happening again but jason terry is gonna explode eventually. and if butler plays like this then its over but i doubt he maintains it. i think its time to evaluate just how long they should play g hill. he didnt look good but atleast the big3 are coming together. good game 1 but the pressure is still on the mavs to win the next one look forward to it

LOL is that your excuse? Like I said, I wanna see what you come up with when Dallas wins in 5 or 6.

Skizzik
04-19-2010, 01:20 AM
Good game by both teams. Hill, Mason, Blair, Bonner, were are these guys???? The big 3 did their thing tonight, (was not expecting Parker to play this good), although Duncan could've bin better, but without any help of any1 else, and Dirk shooting over 75%FG, Butler hitting the shots he did, it's a good sign that the game itself was close.

Next game, I can see Dirk repeating, and Terry exploding, but hopefully the same will happen to Hill, Blair, Mason, and the surroundings of big 3, and maybe just maybe with Richard Jefferson too! Good game tho!

In all truthfulness, that's pretty normal in this series. Two or three of Duncan/Ginobili/Parker will have big games and the rest of the roster basically pulls a no show.

BaseballBoy1811
04-19-2010, 01:57 AM
Spurs played great tonight. Couldn't ask for a better performance. Mavericks only won cause of all those bs calls by the refs working against them. I can't wait for Wed.!

Ebbs
04-19-2010, 02:03 AM
Spurs played great tonight. Couldn't ask for a better performance. Mavericks only won cause of all those bs calls by the refs working against them. I can't wait for Wed.!

:facepalm: classic poor loser

ragee
04-19-2010, 02:11 AM
well dirk just had the game of his life so atleast the spurs wont have to worry bout that happening again but jason terry is gonna explode eventually. and if butler plays like this then its over but i doubt he maintains it. i think its time to evaluate just how long they should play g hill. he didnt look good but atleast the big3 are coming together. good game 1 but the pressure is still on the mavs to win the next one look forward to it

You say it like Dirk does not do that often... The Spurs do need to worry coz there is a great chance that it is going to happen again...

asmarks18
04-19-2010, 02:12 AM
Spurs played great tonight. Couldn't ask for a better performance. Mavericks only won cause of all those bs calls by the refs working against them. I can't wait for Wed.!

How old are you? 10? 12? If you are 18+ and you're this immature and a sore loser you're simply pathetic. The Mavs won because no one on your team had an answer for Dirk. End of story.

asmarks18
04-19-2010, 02:15 AM
Duncan sounded confident that they could stop Dirk in game 2. We'll see what happens. But Matt Bonner and Keith Bogans aren't going to cut it.

Jason5Kidd5
04-19-2010, 02:20 AM
well dirk just had the game of his life so atleast the spurs wont have to worry bout that happening again but jason terry is gonna explode eventually. and if butler plays like this then its over but i doubt he maintains it. i think its time to evaluate just how long they should play g hill. he didnt look good but atleast the big3 are coming together. good game 1 but the pressure is still on the mavs to win the next one look forward to it

1.) This wasn't the game of his life. I'm not even sure which game would be the game of his life, perhaps against the Rockets where he and TMac went off.
2.) Can you explain why the Spurs don't have to worry about this happening again please? Usually you're so insightful but you seem to be kind of speechless tonight...

sportswhisper
04-19-2010, 02:45 AM
The big question is what's up in game 2? Did a pick here (http://www.betzie.com/bet_detail/nba/san-antonio-spurs-vs-dallas-mavericks-game-2-04-20-2010/224) but where is the forum prediction poll for this game? Anyway, I took mavs. They have it this season.

JayW_1023
04-19-2010, 04:16 AM
Dirk couldn't be stopped tonight. But if The Spurs role players had shown up the Spurs would've had enough to beat Dallas last night. And Dirk won't be scorching hot like this all series long. So it wasn't a discouraging loss at all.

ragee
04-19-2010, 04:41 AM
Dirk couldn't be stopped tonight. But if The Spurs role players had shown up the Spurs would've had enough to beat Dallas last night. And Dirk won't be scorching hot like this all series long. So it wasn't a discouraging loss at all.

Well, if we are doing the IF game, then IF the other Mavs have shown up tonight, you wouldn't have to be saying if coz this wouldn't have been a close game... Sure, Dirk can't stay this hot all series long but the rest of the Mavs can't be this cold all series long either...

JayW_1023
04-19-2010, 05:15 AM
Well, if we are doing the IF game, then IF the other Mavs have shown up tonight, you wouldn't have to be saying if coz this wouldn't have been a close game... Sure, Dirk can't stay this hot all series long but the rest of the Mavs can't be this cold all series long either...

I doubt Dirk will be played straight up either. Let's see how the Mavs adjust.

Hawkeye15
04-19-2010, 08:17 AM
for those saying Dirk can't repeat that performance, um, have you watched Dirk?? He won't go 12-14 every night, but when the man is on and playing well, he will keep that pace.
Some of those shots he hit were ********.

MacFitz92
04-19-2010, 09:11 AM
well dirk just had the game of his life so atleast the spurs wont have to worry bout that happening again but jason terry is gonna explode eventually. and if butler plays like this then its over but i doubt he maintains it. i think its time to evaluate just how long they should play g hill. he didnt look good but atleast the big3 are coming together. good game 1 but the pressure is still on the mavs to win the next one look forward to it

I think that was Dirk's 36th 30 point game in the playoffs? He's one of the few special players in the NBA. That would be the game of his life maybe if he was Manu or Shawn Marion, but not for Dirk.

MacFitz92
04-19-2010, 09:13 AM
Listen, I understand some of you might not agree with me- that's fine. But I can guarantee you that tonight the Spurs will not just beat the Mavs, but slaughter them.

Eating your words sure does suck.

MacFitz92
04-19-2010, 09:16 AM
Dirk couldn't be stopped tonight. But if The Spurs role players had shown up the Spurs would've had enough to beat Dallas last night. And Dirk won't be scorching hot like this all series long. So it wasn't a discouraging loss at all.

You probably haven't seen the best performance by Dirk this series.

MacFitz92
04-19-2010, 09:22 AM
Dirk couldn't be stopped tonight. But if The Spurs role players had shown up the Spurs would've had enough to beat Dallas last night. And Dirk won't be scorching hot like this all series long. So it wasn't a discouraging loss at all.

Can't take a loss. IF OUR role players would've shown up we would have blown you guys out. Jason Terry had like, what, 2 pts.?

ragee
04-19-2010, 09:38 AM
I doubt Dirk will be played straight up either. Let's see how the Mavs adjust.

Double him up so the rest of the Mavs can light it up... Dirk is a good passer for a pf... No worries...

Hawkeye15
04-19-2010, 09:47 AM
this should be an interesting series. I don't think there are going to be any blowouts. Dirk couldn't miss, and Butler played better than he has been. The Spurs got nothing from Jefferson, and the Mavs nothing from Terry. Should be a see-saw

Avenged
04-19-2010, 11:13 AM
I doubt Dirk repeats his stellar performance for the next game. I do think he'll have a great game regardless with Bonner guarding him. The Spurs need to get Bonner some help, Dirk is just too long for him. IMO they should put Duncan on Dirk the majority of the game to try to limit him at least. And have Haywood and Dampier beat you instead.

Hawkeye15
04-19-2010, 11:24 AM
I doubt Dirk repeats his stellar performance for the next game. I do think he'll have a great game regardless with Bonner guarding him. The Spurs need to get Bonner some help, Dirk is just too long for him. IMO they should put Duncan on Dirk the majority of the game to try to limit him at least. And have Haywood and Dampier beat you instead.

Duncan would get killed. Dirk would just take him outside and either shoot over him, or put it on the floor and sit Duncan with foul trouble. Duncan is a great INTERIOR defender, but he isn't sticking with Dirk on the perimeter.

Avenged
04-19-2010, 11:27 AM
Duncan would get killed. Dirk would just take him outside and either shoot over him, or put it on the floor and sit Duncan with foul trouble. Duncan is a great INTERIOR defender, but he isn't sticking with Dirk on the perimeter.

Better than Bonner IMO. Unless the Spurs play perfect ball, it might just be a short series.

Dpop07
04-19-2010, 11:28 AM
its going to be pick your poison with who guards dirk because they really have no one. i really expect the spurs to bounce back and hold home court but i think the mavs depth will just be too much for them and the series won't make it past 6 games.

As a mavs fan this rivalry has been amazing and its sad to see the decline of duncan and a great franchise in the spurs. much respect.

Hawkeye15
04-19-2010, 11:30 AM
Better than Bonner IMO. Unless the Spurs play perfect ball, it might just be a short series.

eh, still not buying it. They can't have Duncan using that much energy on Dirk. They could entertain actually helping out haha. I would expect the series will be very close. Butler and Jefferson won't play as good and as bad as they did the whole series. Terry will wake up a bit, and you have to think SA will get huge games from their big 3 every night.

Avenged
04-19-2010, 11:34 AM
eh, still not buying it. They can't have Duncan using that much energy on Dirk. They could entertain actually helping out haha. I would expect the series will be very close. Butler and Jefferson won't play as good and as bad as they did the whole series. Terry will wake up a bit, and you have to think SA will get huge games from their big 3 every night.

No doubt, but I think the Mavs depth will be too much in the end. Dirk will have a helluva series since their is no one out there to guard him. Bonner just isn't going to cut it. George Hill also has to have a big game for SA if they wish to advance. The Mavs have all the pieces to be great, unfortunately.

Hawkeye15
04-19-2010, 11:37 AM
No doubt, but I think the Mavs depth will be too much in the end. Dirk will have a helluva series since their is no one out there to guard him. Bonner just isn't going to cut it. George Hill also has to have a big game for SA if they wish to advance. The Mavs have all the pieces to be great, unfortunately.

totally agree. But regarding the Mavs, they are always stacked, throw a huge number of wins up, and yet, I can never take them as a serious contender after the meltdown against Miami.

Avenged
04-19-2010, 11:40 AM
totally agree. But regarding the Mavs, they are always stacked, throw a huge number of wins up, and yet, I can never take them as a serious contender after the meltdown against Miami.

:laugh2: Yeah me too. Miami and Golden State.

This is the most stacked team they've have. If they don't do some serious damage this postseason, something is seriously wrong.

Wilson
04-19-2010, 01:11 PM
For the Spurs it might be worth putting a smaller, quicker guy on Dirk and play him all the way up and down the court to try to deny Dirk the ball.

I think it was a good game by the Spurs though, they showed us that they're not just going to roll over.

Chronz
04-19-2010, 01:15 PM
Game of his life? Come on now. He was great tonight but he didn't even get 40 points. Dirk is more than capable of repeating this performance sometime this series.
Where did I say it was the highest scoring performance of his life? And I dont think youve payed close attention to Dirks career, hes never had a game like this ever before, expecting it again would be novice. Hes only had one other game above 70%, and 8 others above 60%.



Game of his life? Seriously?

You don't even have to go back very far to see a better series, which is tougher than just one game...remember his last playoff series before this? Last year versus Denver? He got no help, but still, his numbers in that series were better...his points in those 5 games: 28, 35, 33, 44, 32...all while finding out his fiance had more aliases than Jason Bourne. 36 isn't really a big deal for Dirk. He's dropped 50 in the playoffs before.
Another amateur analysis of a players stats. Tell me what was Dirks PER/Offensive RTG for that series? Right now its at 44.0 and 1.84PPP. Thats the game of his life


LOL is that your excuse? Like I said, I wanna see what you come up with when Dallas wins in 5 or 6.
LOL your still thinking its going 5? I wanna see what you say when game 6-7 rolls around


You say it like Dirk does not do that often... The Spurs do need to worry coz there is a great chance that it is going to happen again...
Umm hes never done that, so chances are it will NEVER happen again.


1.) This wasn't the game of his life. I'm not even sure which game would be the game of his life, perhaps against the Rockets where he and TMac went off.
2.) Can you explain why the Spurs don't have to worry about this happening again please? Usually you're so insightful but you seem to be kind of speechless tonight...
If your not sure then dont comment. VS Tmac wasnt a playoff game, unless your talking about 05, but he was locked down that year.

2) Because they dont have to worry about someone replicating a performance that hes never pulled off before. Thats how great he was.


I think that was Dirk's 36th 30 point game in the playoffs? He's one of the few special players in the NBA. That would be the game of his life maybe if he was Manu or Shawn Marion, but not for Dirk.
It was his 35th, the last time he came close to matching this kind of efficiency was 2003 against the Blazers, 15-20 42PTS (5-6 from 3) that game is one of his greatest as well. Care to guess what Dirks shooting % were the rest of the games? Ahh hell Ill tell you , 59%, 32%, 50%, 60%, 18%, 57%.


You probably haven't seen the best performance by Dirk this series.
LOL sure

Mavrix
04-19-2010, 02:14 PM
Chronz, if and when game 6 rolls around I'm still gonna say I told you so after it's done. Mavs in 5 OR 6.

Skizzik
04-19-2010, 02:19 PM
So...your argument is efficiency? Really? Oh no, he might only make 12 of 20 next time...God forbid. Terry was missing all night, it's unlikely he'll only score 5 points, so the overall team shooting should rebalance to a negligible difference in overall team shooting. It's still likely not going to be called the game of his life. You seem to think everyone cares about PER as the definition of the game of your life. Sorry buddy, but some people don't think like you do.

The game of Dirk's life might just be game 7 of that 2006 Spurs/Mavs series where he had 37 points and drew a critical and-one against Manu to push the game to overtime to win the series. Do you think he cared about PER that night? I doubt it. YOUR definition of "game of his life" isn't other people's definitions. I'll agree with you, he probably won't nail 12 of 14 against (12 of 12 from the line is still pretty normal...considering that puts him at 86 made in a row). But using your flawed logic and deciding for everyone else what the "game of Dirk's life" is...that's just ignorant. There's no set definition. I'm sure if you asked 100 different people in the NBA media and across the league, you'd get at least 10 different answers. Opinion =/= fact.

amoore87
04-19-2010, 02:31 PM
mavs win in 5

Rockets4Life
04-19-2010, 02:48 PM
:facepalm: classic poor loser

Really? Im not a fan of either team. Hate them both but I couldn't stand watching the game. Was one of the worst officiating games I've seen in awhile. If your going to call BS calls, then make sure they go both ways. Its the playoffs, LET THEM PLAy. I know you wont agree with me cause your a mavs fan but coming from a person from the outside looking in, the refs were on dallas's side. Game 2 should be a good one. Before you go off on me, I AM NOT SAYING THATS WHY THE MAVS WON. The mavs won because they have more offense power then the spurs and the spurs couldn't contain Dirk. Im just saying the refs were horrible and were calling BS calls on the spurs all night.

ElMarroAfamado
04-19-2010, 02:50 PM
Dirk is ****ing great
Mavs Fans are Lucky

Skizzik
04-19-2010, 03:02 PM
Really? Im not a fan of either team. Hate them both but I couldn't stand watching the game. Was one of the worst officiating games I've seen in awhile. If your going to call BS calls, then make sure they go both ways. Its the playoffs, LET THEM PLAy. I know you wont agree with me cause your a mavs fan but coming from a person from the outside looking in, the refs were on dallas's side. Game 2 should be a good one. Before you go off on me, I AM NOT SAYING THATS WHY THE MAVS WON. The mavs won because they have more offense power then the spurs and the spurs couldn't contain Dirk. Im just saying the refs were horrible and were calling BS calls on the spurs all night.

I think the officiating was bad myself (and you won't find many Mavs fans with more passion than me, if any), but the fact is, it went both ways and the Spurs just didn't take advantage of the poor officiating enough. They needed to put themselves in that position more. But if you want proof how bad the officiating was both ways...just look at the charge inside of the restricted zone against the Mavs...followed by a make-up call in the Mavs favor. Make-up calls, even when they're for your team, are pathetic. However, the poor officiating was game wide. Just the Mavs took advantage of it more.

Chronz
04-19-2010, 04:37 PM
Chronz, if and when game 6 rolls around I'm still gonna say I told you so after it's done. Mavs in 5 OR 6.
That one game makes a huge difference, its like if I said Kobes going to score 10 OR 30 tomorrow.

Your going from trying to make it sound likes its going to be easy (5), but then admitting it may go 6. 6 could mean it was a close series depending on the PT differential.

Young2Kinsler
04-19-2010, 04:42 PM
Seriously, people think SA put up a fight last night? That was a 10 point game before the trash time baskets. Not to mention without Dirk Dallas shot incredibly poor. Dallas played average at best and dominated the game most of the time.

I'm never a big homer or talker, but I can't see this series going 6, it might not even go 5 honestly.

Joshtd1
04-19-2010, 04:42 PM
Ready for game 2 already..glad were getting an extra day of rest, it benefits Duncan and Manu and Dyess alot.

I like what we saw defensively for hte most part..if Dirk is going to make 11/13 on pretty damn good defense on him, then hes going to make it. I'd rather see him take contested shots then double and leave one of their 3 point shooters wide open.

Same with Butler..I would rather see him going 1 on 1 against someone like Bogans or RJ who he wont be able to bully in the post, because it takes the ball out of Dirk/Kidd's hands.

As for Terry, yes Im aware he sucked and I doubt hell stay quiet, but I dont think RJ and Hill will score like a combined 4 pts between them.

Chronz
04-19-2010, 05:03 PM
So...your argument is efficiency? Really?
Yea you know that thing that wins games. But its efficiency in context with his usage.


Oh no, he might only make 12 of 20 next time...God forbid.
Umm yea, that would certainly be better than Dirk sporting a TS% above .900



Terry was missing all night, it's unlikely he'll only score 5 points, so the overall team shooting should rebalance to a negligible difference in overall team shooting.
If you go back and read my first post, you should notice I mentioned that. But negligible difference? Alot of things will change in the coming games, my point was solely that Dirk WILL NOT replicate that performance. Because it was the game of his life.


It's still likely not going to be called the game of his life.
you could say ONE of, but either way we're talking about a very small list. Like top 2 or 3 greatest performances of his life, in terms of raw production. Anyways all I care about is that his PER/PPP dont reach those levels again this series. Thats what will help the spurs the most.


You seem to think everyone cares about PER as the definition of the game of your life.
No only the intelligent ones use it, I never said it was the SOLE definition, but it is one of the barometers. Notice I also asked for the players offensive rtg, I used PER because it overrates high usage games, the fact that Dirk still sports a higher PER despite it not being a game where he chucks is incredibly telling.


Sorry buddy, but some people don't think like you do.
LOL yeah those people arent GM's (smart ones) or statisticians. But feel free to insult them as well. Facts are, objective measurements matter more than subjective opinions.


The game of Dirk's life might just be game 7 of that 2006 Spurs/Mavs series where he had 37 points and drew a critical and-one against Manu to push the game to overtime to win the series.
Thats a decent one as well, but statistically speaking his last night was better. Im talking in terms of producing tangible #'s in a certain amount of possessions. Not a game that was more dramatic


Do you think he cared about PER that night? I doubt it.
If he wouldve, then the game wouldnt have ever gotten so close to begin with. Do you think he cared about his PER in the Miami series? Put it this way, if he replicates this performance in that game then he not only scores the same amount of PTS (in less minutes), but he gives his team so many more possessions that they would only need to hit at a JR High School level from the field to win an a route (+5 or so).



YOUR definition of "game of his life" isn't other people's definitions. I'll agree with you, he probably won't nail 12 of 14 against (12 of 12 from the line is still pretty normal...considering that puts him at 86 made in a row).
Whats your definition? A game thats memorable because of circumstance? Im talking strictly about performance here. This didnt have the theatrics or the high scoring outburst but because of his absurd efficiency, it didnt require any.


But using your flawed logic and deciding for everyone else what the "game of Dirk's life" is...that's just ignorant.
Nothing flawed about it, whats flawed is suggesting "Hes scored more PTS before" or whatever it was you said, as the rebuttal to MY OPINION. That I THEN backed up with superior statistics you guys spewed. Had you guys named actual games I wouldve responded differently, kind of how I did above.

(EDIT, LMFAO your response was "his #'s in Denver were superior" apparently you have no idea how to dissect #'s, heres a hint, start using PER POSSESSION METRICS and start evaluating EFFICIENCY.


There's no set definition. I'm sure if you asked 100 different people in the NBA media and across the league, you'd get at least 10 different answers. Opinion =/= fact.
Thats why I was asking for any objective measure to analyze those games. You came at me with, no dont use PER blah blah blah, sorry bro its but one of the many valuable metrics available and I intend to use it. Feel free to use any other, when I first posted it was my OPINION, then when all of you attacked it with 10th grade rationale, I threw objective measures into the discussion. Comprende?

Chronz
04-19-2010, 05:08 PM
I think the officiating was bad myself (and you won't find many Mavs fans with more passion than me, if any), but the fact is, it went both ways and the Spurs just didn't take advantage of the poor officiating enough. They needed to put themselves in that position more. But if you want proof how bad the officiating was both ways...just look at the charge inside of the restricted zone against the Mavs...followed by a make-up call in the Mavs favor. Make-up calls, even when they're for your team, are pathetic. However, the poor officiating was game wide. Just the Mavs took advantage of it more.
How can they put themselves in that position more if they were the ones getting the short end of the stick. Just look at one call? Why would I look at one call? Mavs took advantage of it more because the refs allowed it.

I didnjt want to bring it up because its loser talk but you trying to defend it is even more loserish.

Chronz
04-19-2010, 05:14 PM
Seriously, people think SA put up a fight last night? That was a 10 point game before the trash time baskets. Not to mention without Dirk Dallas shot incredibly poor. Dallas played average at best and dominated the game most of the time.

I'm never a big homer or talker, but I can't see this series going 6, it might not even go 5 honestly.

Look at the game flow, it never got out of hand and was contested all the way through. Without Dirk that game belongs to the Spurs, if you look at several of their players they have just as much room for improvement. Thinking it might not even go 5 tells me all I need to know about your opinion.

Rockets4Life
04-19-2010, 05:53 PM
Look at the game flow, it never got out of hand and was contested all the way through. Without Dirk that game belongs to the Spurs, if you look at several of their players they have just as much room for improvement. Thinking it might not even go 5 tells me all I need to know about your opinion.

x2

Young2Kinsler
04-19-2010, 06:04 PM
IF anyone thinks thats the best performance of Dirk's career maybe they just started watching basketball. Other than FG, all of it is replicable or beatable. Maybe he doesn't only miss 2 shots, but he might go 15 for 20, which is just as good if not better.

Young2Kinsler
04-19-2010, 06:05 PM
Look at the game flow, it never got out of hand and was contested all the way through. Without Dirk that game belongs to the Spurs, if you look at several of their players they have just as much room for improvement. Thinking it might not even go 5 tells me all I need to know about your opinion.

Thanks Captain Obvious. I mean how ****ing ignorant of a sports comment is that?

Hey if they Spurs did't have Ginobili they woulda lost by 20
if the Cavs didn't have Lebron they would be a lottery team
if ifififif if if

No one gives a **** about ifs, Dallas is better than SA.... PERIOD

Skizzik
04-19-2010, 06:10 PM
I don't want to reply back and forth, because I know I will get no where with you Chronz. But your one comment is just arrogant...talking like you're on the level of GMs and statisticians of the NBA who get paid very large sums of money. Prove to me you're one of those people making millions of dollars a year, then I'll agree with you and bow down to your greatness. Then again, if you were a super statistician and not just reading numbers on the internet, I highly doubt you'd be posting on PSD. You sit there acting like you're better than all these Mavs fans, myself included. I highly doubt that's the case. But hey, prove me wrong, show me your mansion with a sign in front of it...your Ferrari...something that proves you are this big super genius.

And last, you mention Dirk and his PER in the Miami series...but at the same time...complain about refs? Did you seriously miss the refs in that series? You look down on Dirk because of the Miami series where the free throw discrepancy was vast...then complain because the EXACT SAME THING is happening to your Spurs? What a hypocrite.

Skizzik
04-19-2010, 06:11 PM
If the New Jersey Nets had Melo, Howard, Durant, Kobe and Wade...and all 5 were BFFs, they'd win every series ever. So the Mavs got lucky this time...next year though!

Skizzik
04-19-2010, 06:14 PM
IF anyone thinks thats the best performance of Dirk's career maybe they just started watching basketball. Other than FG, all of it is replicable or beatable. Maybe he doesn't only miss 2 shots, but he might go 15 for 20, which is just as good if not better.

Also, this...statistics aren't nearly as impressive to all fans as you want them to be Chronz. Some of us prefer that big last minute shot. Why do I need statistics to prove that? I'm not arguing statistics, I'm arguing that YOUR definition of "game of his life" isn't the same as other people. Some people will agree with you, some won't. There's plenty of us that prefer epic battles...even if it means our guy was terrible all game...before exploding in the fourth (which we've seen from Dirk at least twice this year). Even Dirk said he was lucky on some of those shots (and if you watched the game, you'd agree). That doesn't make it the game of your life, that means all the bounces bounced your way.

Chronz
04-19-2010, 06:52 PM
I don't want to reply back and forth, because I know I will get no where with you Chronz. But your one comment is just arrogant...talking like you're on the level of GMs and statisticians of the NBA who get paid very large sums of money.
If by on their level you mean open to discussion on all things pertaining to statistics, then yes. If you mean by way of knowledge and know how then no, you inferred that from a post that was only meant to show how ridiculous it was to write off something that was clearly a credible point.


Prove to me you're one of those people making millions of dollars a year, then I'll agree with you and bow down to your greatness.
First sign of defeat is when you take things to extreme. All I want is for you to bring forth a decent attempt at a rebuttal not this your argument is flawed nonsense.


Then again, if you were a super statistician and not just reading numbers on the internet, I highly doubt you'd be posting on PSD.
LOL your right Id be posting on the APBR boards, I highly doubt you know what it takes. Its not as if they all make millions, many of them started off researching common known facts that Ive been spreading here. Think of me as a messenger of their genius.


You sit there acting like you're better than all these Mavs fans, myself included.
Nope, just your opinion based on **** you know nothing of.



And last, you mention Dirk and his PER in the Miami series...but at the same time...complain about refs? Did you seriously miss the refs in that series? You look down on Dirk because of the Miami series where the free throw discrepancy was vast...then complain because the EXACT SAME THING is happening to your Spurs? What a hypocrite.
Umm no you mentioned the refs remember, not once did I blame the refs for the loss. And I dont discredit Dirk for the refs, I discredit him for sucking and letting it effect his game to such a degree. The point I was making towards that series was the same I wouldve made in his series against the Warriors, do you think he cared about his PER then?

Dude youve done nothing to attack my points and have complained about my character, even if I was the ultimate ***, can we move on and discuss the matter at hand? Stop hiding behind your personal attacks.

Chronz
04-19-2010, 06:54 PM
Thanks Captain Obvious. I mean how ****ing ignorant of a sports comment is that?

Hey if they Spurs did't have Ginobili they woulda lost by 20
if the Cavs didn't have Lebron they would be a lottery team
if ifififif if if

No one gives a **** about ifs, Dallas is better than SA.... PERIOD
Your exact words;

Not to mention without Dirk Dallas shot incredibly poor.

Well yea thats ****ing obvious, its why had he not had a historical night it wouldve belonged to the Spurs.

Chronz
04-19-2010, 06:57 PM
IF anyone thinks thats the best performance of Dirk's career maybe they just started watching basketball. Other than FG, all of it is replicable or beatable. Maybe he doesn't only miss 2 shots, but he might go 15 for 20, which is just as good if not better.
Explain to me how making 3 more shots but missing 6 more impressive? Still you have a point, care to guess how many 15-20 playoff nights hes had? That was his last game he came close to replicating that efficiency. So your basing something being replicable on the fact that the only other time it happened was once in 03? If he ever replicates that performance from last night it wont be this series. Point STANDS

Chronz
04-19-2010, 07:01 PM
Also, this...statistics aren't nearly as impressive to all fans as you want them to be Chronz. Some of us prefer that big last minute shot. Why do I need statistics to prove that?
Because the facts remain had he replicated his line from last night in that game, he wouldnt have NEEDED a brainfart on Manu's part to win the game.


I'm not arguing statistics, I'm arguing that YOUR definition of "game of his life" isn't the same as other people.
Fair enough, Ill change my stance to most productive night of his life. Hows that? We're free of all the subjectivity regarding what impresses you more.


Some people will agree with you, some won't. There's plenty of us that prefer epic battles...even if it means our guy was terrible all game...before exploding in the fourth (which we've seen from Dirk at least twice this year). Even Dirk said he was lucky on some of those shots (and if you watched the game, you'd agree). That doesn't make it the game of your life, that means all the bounces bounced your way.
So having an inordinate amount of luck is suppose to detract from it being the game of your life? I know he was lucky, its why I said from the beginning, the Spurs wont have to worry about that kind of performance anymore. It just doesnt happen often.

RadiantShot
04-19-2010, 07:08 PM
Let it go Chronz.
I'm not a Mavs fan or anything, but this is useless. Just watch the rest of the series. Trying to make a point to some people is like talking to a brick wall.

Skizzik
04-19-2010, 07:08 PM
If by on their level you mean open to discussion on all things pertaining to statistics, then yes. If you mean by way of knowledge and know how then no, you inferred that from a post that was only meant to show how ridiculous it was to write off something that was clearly a credible point.


First sign of defeat is when you take things to extreme. All I want is for you to bring forth a decent attempt at a rebuttal not this your argument is flawed nonsense.


LOL your right Id be posting on the APBR boards, I highly doubt you know what it takes. Its not as if they all make millions, many of them started off researching common known facts that Ive been spreading here. Think of me as a messenger of their genius.


Nope, just your opinion based on **** you know nothing of.



Umm no you mentioned the refs remember, not once did I blame the refs for the loss. And I dont discredit Dirk for the refs, I discredit him for sucking and letting it effect his game to such a degree. The point I was making towards that series was the same I wouldve made in his series against the Warriors, do you think he cared about his PER then?

Dude youve done nothing to attack my points and have complained about my character, even if I was the ultimate ***, can we move on and discuss the matter at hand? Stop hiding behind your personal attacks.

What do you mean your points? I argued that it wasn't the game of his life and you said...yeah, it was...because PER and efficiency. I said that's not my definition of the game of his life (and clearly, other posters who all quoted the same post agreed). And you call me out for attacking you when you insult others? Let me quote for you:

I said: "You seem to think everyone cares about PER as the definition of the game of your life."

You replied: "No only the intelligent ones use it, I never said it was the SOLE definition, but it is one of the barometers. Notice I also asked for the players offensive rtg, I used PER because it overrates high usage games, the fact that Dirk still sports a higher PER despite it not being a game where he chucks is incredibly telling."

Then you go on talking down to me like you're some super genius and I'm an idiot. I'd tell you that I have a genius level IQ and many other things that would prove I'm more than intellectually capable (like my college transcript, acing Calc finals, etc). Sadly, I can't prove this across the internet, you'd probably say I'm stealing someone else's stuff and posting it as my own since I don't intend to give out my name and info on the internet.

However, I'd gladly put my intellect up against yours. I'm a book smarts person when it comes to math and science and have been my entire life (I'm not the greatest when it comes to words admittedly, but I've never really cared to focus my studies on english, I prefer numbers). However, I don't enforce my view on other people like you have since people said it wasn't the game of his life.

What are you trying to argue at this point? I said, yeah, it was probably his most efficient game of his career. That doesn't make it the game of his life. I'm not accepting defeat, you simply put words in my mouth. YOU are the one who compared yourself to GMs and NBA statisticians, not me. I didn't take things to extremes first...you did. I told you to prove you're on their level. If you were truly on their level, you'd be making the money to prove it. See how that works? You started it...not me...

Sorry that not everyone appreciates stats as much as you do. I prefer to look at the fact that there's a human element and thus, I don't hold stats in such high regard. Stats don't understand injuries or mentality or any number of other things.

Chronz
04-19-2010, 07:17 PM
What do you mean your points? I argued that it wasn't the game of his life and you said...yeah, it was...because PER and efficiency. I said that's not my definition of the game of his life (and clearly, other posters who all quoted the same post agreed). And you call me out for attacking you when you insult others?
Incorrect start from the beginning and youll understand, your EXACT words were, LOOK at Dirks STATS from the Denver series.... you then proceeded to show me PPG average with no context towards efficiency or pace. Then I showed you a SUPERIOR barometer for both.



Then you go on talking down to me like you're some super genius and I'm an idiot. I'd tell you that I have a genius level IQ and many other things that would prove I'm more than intellectually capable (like my college transcript, acing Calc finals, etc). Sadly, I can't prove this across the internet, you'd probably say I'm stealing someone else's stuff and posting it as my own since I don't intend to give out my name and info on the internet.
How can someone so smart be so wrong is what Id say. Again YOU brought stats into the discussion, dont then run away when someone expands the argument into something you clearly dont understand.


However, I'd gladly put my intellect up against yours. I'm a book smarts person when it comes to math and science and have been my entire life (I'm not the greatest when it comes to words admittedly, but I've never really cared to focus my studies on english, I prefer numbers). However, I don't enforce my view on other people like you have since people said it wasn't the game of his life.
Force? Did you miss the part where I said I was willing to change my stance?


What are you trying to argue at this point? I said, yeah, it was probably his most efficient game of his career. That doesn't make it the game of his life. I'm not accepting defeat, you simply put words in my mouth. YOU are the one who compared yourself to GMs and NBA statisticians, not me.
Yes because you wanted to disregard it, instead of attacking it. Its why I left it open to discussion while you said it wasnt noteworthy.


I didn't take things to extremes first...you did. I told you to prove you're on their level. If you were truly on their level, you'd be making the money to prove it. See how that works? You started it...not me...
So me saying Im looking at something they take the time to look at is putting me on their level? How is it not just proving that its not as irrelevant as you want it to be?


Sorry that not everyone appreciates stats as much as you do. I prefer to look at the fact that there's a human element and thus, I don't hold stats in such high regard. Stats don't understand injuries or mentality or any number of other things.
LMFAO "LOOK AT STATS" thats what you said, I did and now your changing your argument. Come on bro this is too easy.

Anyways I got to run to work, hopefully by the time I get back we can come to a decent understanding of what the other is saying, cuz I really feel like you dont understand jack of what Ive said.

Skizzik
04-19-2010, 07:24 PM
See, I like this post more...we can act civil. You aren't trying to belittle everyone here, just arguing your point. Why can't we have more of these?


Because the facts remain had he replicated his line from last night in that game, he wouldnt have NEEDED a brainfart on Manu's part to win the game.

How memorable would that series have been if game 7 didn't go in to overtime? Sure, it still would have been an awesome series...but game 7 going to overtime just made it that much better of a story...to me. I know you would rather see perfection (at least judging by your stance, I apologize if I misinterpret it).

But for me, I already know sports don't have perfection. Even the aptly named perfect game in baseball still isn't 27 3 strike strikeouts. Those pitchers throw balls and sometimes need an awesome catch to save the day. Thus, I expect Dirk won't always be otherworldly, however, having a neck and neck game come down to the final shot is far more fun from my perspective because it keeps me involved in the game. As you suggested...what would have happened if Dirk had the same efficiency that night as he did Sunday? The game would have probably not had nearly as much long term impact in my mind as it did.



Fair enough, Ill change my stance to most productive night of his life. Hows that? We're free of all the subjectivity regarding what impresses you more.

See, I agree with that, as far as recorded history goes for Dirk. I never once refuted that.


So having an inordinate amount of luck is suppose to detract from it being the game of your life? I know he was lucky, its why I said from the beginning, the Spurs wont have to worry about that kind of performance anymore. It just doesnt happen often.

This is one place we definitely differ...you say it like Dirk has to make 12 of 14 to have THAT impact on a game. I beg to differ. I was going more for the amount of points he'll drop. Yes, he won't get it as fast, but as I said, you have to expect Terry to have at least two or three better games than last night that will make up for the overall shooting difference. But those 36 points are still there and overall as a team, I don't think it will hurt them.

I see where you're coming from, really, I do. It's the low number of shots to put up such a big number. The issue is, to me at least, you come off acting like Dirk isn't going to put up any more big games this series just because he's not gonna shoot 86% and I just can't agree with that. Will it really make that much of an impact if Dirk missed 10 more shots last night to finish 12-24? I don't personally think it would have, because that's just taking away shots from the rest of the poor shooting Mavs we had last night.