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*Superman*
04-12-2010, 05:00 PM
So I was talking to my friend today, he's a Knicks fan, LeBron rider, and basically MVP talk came up and he made the statement, If LeBron wins one ring and retires, he would be a HOFer. I thought that was a interesting statement and was wondering what you guys would think about it. If LeBron won his first championship this year and retired, would he be a HOFer?

Bruno
04-12-2010, 05:04 PM
I'd say, for sure. One ring, one MVP, the best two year stint in PER since Jordan. His experience may still be minimal in comparison to other HALL members, but an MVP, a ring, and those stats pretty easily put him over the top.

Edit: It would be two MVPs. He's gona win it this year. We'd also assume hed have a Finals MVP.

Hawkeye15
04-12-2010, 05:05 PM
I would agree with Bruno

GSW Hoops
04-12-2010, 05:12 PM
No. Two MVPs and one title aren't enough for such a short career.

abe_froman
04-12-2010, 05:13 PM
lebron would be a hofer right now..right now he has 0,so yes getting one only strengthens his credentials

RadiantShot
04-12-2010, 05:14 PM
Definitely. Just for the fact he's so dominant in this league, he already has the green light. He's the most hyped basketball player since Jordan or AI, and with a ring? You best believe he'll be in the HOF.

Mavrix
04-12-2010, 05:14 PM
No. Two MVPs and one title aren't enough for such a short career.

Is that sarcasm? You don't have to have either to be a HOFer. Ex: John Stockton.

Bruno
04-12-2010, 05:20 PM
lebron would be a hofer right now..right now he has 0,so yes getting one only strengthens his credentials

With no title/Finals MVP, and only 7 years of experience it's debatable.

Raph12
04-12-2010, 05:27 PM
Seeming as how every MVP winner has become a HOFer, yeah no doubt.

JordansBulls
04-12-2010, 05:27 PM
So I was talking to my friend today, he's a Knicks fan, LeBron rider, and basically MVP talk came up and he made the statement, If LeBron wins one ring and retires, he would be a HOFer. I thought that was a interesting statement and was wondering what you guys would think about it. If LeBron won his first championship this year and retired, would he be a HOFer?

He is a hall of famer now.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

1. Michael Jordan* 1.0000
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 1.0000
3. Bill Russell* 1.0000
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 1.0000
5. Larry Bird* 1.0000
6. Magic Johnson* 1.0000
7. Shaquille O'Neal 1.0000
8. Tim Duncan 1.0000
9. Karl Malone* 1.0000
10. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
11. Bob Pettit* 1.0000
12. Oscar Robertson* 1.0000
13. Jerry West* 1.0000
14. Elgin Baylor* 1.0000
15. Hakeem Olajuwon* 1.0000
16. David Robinson* 1.0000
17. Kevin Garnett 1.0000
18. Moses Malone* 1.0000
19. Bob Cousy* 1.0000
20. John Havlicek* 1.0000
21. Charles Barkley* 1.0000
22. Allen Iverson 1.0000
23. LeBron James 1.0000
24. George Mikan* 1.0000
25. Julius Erving* 0.9999

abe_froman
04-12-2010, 05:27 PM
With no title/Finals MVP, and only 7 years of experience it's debatable.

there are tons,tons(most players in the hall)that dont have finals mvp's and many who have no rings..is barkley in the hall?,gervin?,english?,ect..you dont need a ring to get in,.seriously i dont get why fans cant/dont understand this.

hell connie hawkins is in the hof(no mvp,no rings and very short career)

and he has an mvp award,and every mvp winner is in the hall

jackdawson
04-12-2010, 05:31 PM
He already is a HOFer.

td0tsfinest
04-12-2010, 05:32 PM
He's impacted the game already in his short career. He became arguably the best player in the league in just a few seasons.

Hawkeye15
04-12-2010, 05:40 PM
remember too, for anyone who has seen the basketball hall of fame, it isn't the MLB. Its easy to make the Basketball HOF compared to most sports. He is already in

Baller1
04-12-2010, 05:40 PM
I agree with those who said he's already a HOF'er.

The guy is something we've never really seen before and is one of the most dominant players to ever play the game... already.

So yes, he is.

Bruno
04-12-2010, 07:06 PM
there are tons,tons(most players in the hall)that dont have finals mvp's and many who have no rings..is barkley in the hall?,gervin?,english?,ect..you dont need a ring to get in,.seriously i dont get why fans cant/dont understand this.

hell connie hawkins is in the hof(no mvp,no rings and very short career)

and he has an mvp award,and every mvp winner is in the hall

I said its debatable, not that I'd argue against it (If he were to retire today). All those other players you mentioned played a lot longer than 7 seasons and had much higher total career numbers. I'd say Hawkins playing in such a different, not as globalized league is maybe part of why he was inducted. I'm not arguing against you, I'd say put him in the hall now. I'd just understand certain reservations about it.

cheerio
04-12-2010, 07:31 PM
There are some players that make the HOF and never win a ring, but he has been setting records plus he has a ring so yes

tredigs
04-12-2010, 07:38 PM
He's obviously already a HOFer.

Fun stat: Every NBA player who has ever won an MVP award is in the HOF. He will now have two MVP's. If he gets a ring, that's just icing.

The question is how high up the totem pole of the all time legends he will go down as. He is a lock for the hall.

kArSoN RyDaH
04-12-2010, 07:41 PM
yeaa he will be a HOFer but rather or not he will be a first ballot HOFer, IMO, depends on him winning a ring.

superkegger
04-12-2010, 09:02 PM
LeBron is HOFer without a ring.

Raps18-19 Champ
04-12-2010, 09:13 PM
I think he's already a Hall of Famer.

The guy is a force. His talent level and productivity is unbelievable and has had some of the better seasons in the history of the NBA(PER).

Also is the youngest in NBA history for many achievements.

kArSoN RyDaH
04-12-2010, 09:15 PM
LeBron is HOFer without a ring.

no lebron is not a HOFer without a ring, right now at least. if he plays a couple more years and stacks up more numbers than maybe yes but right now he isnt a HOFer and it would be a slap in the face to all other HOFer's if he were to retire now without a ring and get in the hall.

Raps18-19 Champ
04-12-2010, 09:20 PM
no lebron is not a HOFer without a ring, right now at least. if he plays a couple more years and stacks up more numbers than maybe yes but right now he isnt a HOFer and it would be a slap in the face to all other HOFer's if he were to retire now without a ring and get in the hall.

It's debatable.

He's set numerous records as being the youngest and/or fastest to do many things.

MVP.

Had some of the best PER's in NBA History.

And is near unstoppable.

Jahari Kavi
04-12-2010, 09:28 PM
He is a hall of famer now.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

1. Michael Jordan* 1.0000
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 1.0000
3. Bill Russell* 1.0000
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 1.0000
5. Larry Bird* 1.0000
6. Magic Johnson* 1.0000
7. Shaquille O'Neal 1.0000
8. Tim Duncan 1.0000
9. Karl Malone* 1.0000
10. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
11. Bob Pettit* 1.0000
12. Oscar Robertson* 1.0000
13. Jerry West* 1.0000
14. Elgin Baylor* 1.0000
15. Hakeem Olajuwon* 1.0000
16. David Robinson* 1.0000
17. Kevin Garnett 1.0000
18. Moses Malone* 1.0000
19. Bob Cousy* 1.0000
20. John Havlicek* 1.0000
21. Charles Barkley* 1.0000
22. Allen Iverson 1.0000
23. LeBron James 1.0000
24. George Mikan* 1.0000
25. Julius Erving* 0.9999

what this man said.

Avenged
04-12-2010, 09:39 PM
Lebron has had a short career to be a HOFer but has accomplished many things in his career any how. I think it can go either way, but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt and im sure who ever is in charge of the HOF would too.

faridk89
04-12-2010, 09:54 PM
who cares really....let the man play his career out and then judge, if he dosnt win he'll be in the HOF regardless.....why are 50 percent of the forums about lebron/bosh/wade/kobe either moving or who's better blah blah so annoying

*Superman*
04-12-2010, 09:54 PM
He is a hall of famer now.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

1. Michael Jordan* 1.0000
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 1.0000
3. Bill Russell* 1.0000
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 1.0000
5. Larry Bird* 1.0000
6. Magic Johnson* 1.0000
7. Shaquille O'Neal 1.0000
8. Tim Duncan 1.0000
9. Karl Malone* 1.0000
10. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
11. Bob Pettit* 1.0000
12. Oscar Robertson* 1.0000
13. Jerry West* 1.0000
14. Elgin Baylor* 1.0000
15. Hakeem Olajuwon* 1.0000
16. David Robinson* 1.0000
17. Kevin Garnett 1.0000
18. Moses Malone* 1.0000
19. Bob Cousy* 1.0000
20. John Havlicek* 1.0000
21. Charles Barkley* 1.0000
22. Allen Iverson 1.0000
23. LeBron James 1.0000
24. George Mikan* 1.0000
25. Julius Erving* 0.9999

You and your weird *** calculations JB. But I pretty much agree with the list. But how the hell do you put Tmac at 53.

Twins Fanatic
04-12-2010, 09:56 PM
Without a doubt, he'll be in the Hall of Fame.