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KnicksorBust
04-06-2010, 02:29 PM
In an effort to combine two of the greatest creations in the world (the NBA and the NCAA Tournament), a new tournament has been created. The top scoring 64 players (per game) of the current NBA season will be facing off head to head to determine the greatest one on one player in the game today.

Coming out of the Eastern bracket:
#2 Monta Ellis (Relevant Info: 6'3/180 | Stats: 25.7/4.0/5.4)
vs.
#10 Lamarcus Aldridge (Relevant Info: 6'11/240 | Stats: 17.3/8.0/1.9)

The games will be to 21 points with 1's and 2's and winners ball. First competitor to earn 21 votes will advance to the next round.



(Editors Note: Check http://manathalon.weebly.com/ to enjoy complete updates on tournament results.)

KnicksorBust
04-06-2010, 02:30 PM
Big man > Little man

Raidaz4Life
04-06-2010, 02:31 PM
Monta!!!! Second only to Kobe baby!!!

KnicksorBust
04-06-2010, 02:43 PM
Monta!!!! Second only to Kobe baby!!!

:laugh:

He's going to somehow win this game even though could he really stop Aldridge once he got the ball?

chrism8188
04-06-2010, 02:50 PM
monta is a volume shooter, and as good as he is...well Aldridge is better, once he gets tha ball its automatic 3 to 4 point bursts, he has a jumper and post game...monta will most likely jus shoot......monta could win but i choose Aldridge

Niro
04-06-2010, 03:12 PM
monta

Raph12
04-06-2010, 03:29 PM
Aldridge could stand by the basket and Monta would miss after 2 or 3 shots, upto 21, Aldridge would destroy Monta IMO.

asandhu23
04-06-2010, 03:34 PM
Monta, no doubt. The man is number 2 in the league in steals. oh wait... some people will call me a homer.

homestarunner93
04-06-2010, 03:40 PM
There's no way Monta wins. How the hell could he defend Aldridge?

KnicksorBust
04-06-2010, 07:55 PM
12-10

KnicksorBust
04-07-2010, 01:35 AM
Can a 6'3 midget really beat a 6'10 professional?

asandhu23
04-07-2010, 01:47 AM
Can a 6'3 midget really beat a 6'10 professional?

oi :no:

TrueFan420
04-07-2010, 03:18 AM
ellis is way to quick for aldridge to stay in front of him

KnicksorBust
04-07-2010, 03:37 AM
wow!!!!!!!! this is actually a close battle. Go aldridge!

vash9
04-07-2010, 04:21 AM
Monta.

KnicksorBust
04-07-2010, 09:56 AM
18-13 Monta pulling away.

blastmasta26
04-07-2010, 05:56 PM
Only way Monta would win is if Lamarcus stood by the basket and Ellis hit every single jumper. Once Aldridge gets the ball, he could easily post up Ellis. Sure, Ellis is good at getting steals, but Aldridge can use his size to prevent that.

KnicksorBust
04-07-2010, 08:17 PM
19-15 Monta in the lead. The wrong person is going to win this one...

KnicksorBust
04-07-2010, 09:40 PM
Bump for 2 votes.

KnicksorBust
04-08-2010, 02:37 PM
Amazingly this is 20-19 and I still need 1 more vote for Monta or 2 for Aldridge to advance this matchup. Hope a Blazers fan spots this thread first. :laugh:

KnicksorBust
04-08-2010, 05:56 PM
20-20

Whose going to be the deciding vote?

BlondeBomber41
04-08-2010, 08:13 PM
21-20, Monta Ellis wins.

BlondeBomber41
04-08-2010, 08:17 PM
Big man > Little man


19-15 Monta in the lead. The wrong person is going to win this one...

You cant really think Lamarcus Aldridge can slow down Monta Ellis do you?

You forget that in a 1 on 1 game you have to take the ball out past the 3 point line to start your possession. There is no Andre Miller to set him up for a jump shot or player to pass it to him deep in the post. He would have to dribble, or back down Monta all the way to the goal. There is no way Ellis wouldnt strip the ball from Aldridge constantly. He is one of the leagues leaders in steals.

On the other hand Ellis would blow by LA so easily, and if LA gives Ellis room he would still blow by him.

Your simple thought process of "big always beats small" is so flawed its not even funny, especially under these rules.

tredigs
04-08-2010, 08:29 PM
You cant really think Lamarcus Aldridge can slow down Monta Ellis do you?

You forget that in a 1 on 1 game you have to take the ball out past the 3 point line to start your possession. There is no Andre Miller to set him up for a jump shot or player to pass it to him deep in the post. He would have to dribble, or back down Monta all the way to the goal. There is no way Ellis wouldnt strip the ball from Aldridge constantly. He is one of the leagues leaders in steals.

On the other hand Ellis would blow by LA so easily, and if LA gives Ellis room he would still blow by him.

Your simple thought process of "big always beats small" is so flawed its not even funny, especially under these rules.


This is exactly right. Tried to explain this to him in 3 different "1v1" threads. Fails to see the logic. Becomes an even bigger difference when you factor in a big who can't shoot threes, and a guard who if given space can and will. TWICE the points as a 1 point shot. It's cut and dry. A guard like Ellis would smash Lemarcus in 1 v 1.

KnicksorBust
04-08-2010, 08:39 PM
You cant really think Lamarcus Aldridge can slow down Monta Ellis do you?

You forget that in a 1 on 1 game you have to take the ball out past the 3 point line to start your possession. There is no Andre Miller to set him up for a jump shot or player to pass it to him deep in the post. He would have to dribble, or back down Monta all the way to the goal. There is no way Ellis wouldnt strip the ball from Aldridge constantly. He is one of the leagues leaders in steals.

On the other hand Ellis would blow by LA so easily, and if LA gives Ellis room he would still blow by him.

Your simple thought process of "big always beats small" is so flawed its not even funny, especially under these rules.

Big doesn't always beat small but in this case it definately does. Monta is not a good shooter and relies on attacking the basket. Aldridge has EIGHT INCHES on him. You don't think he can play off and contest his drives? Steals in one on one are not nearly as prevalent as you would think. Aldridge can just back him down the whole way. It's 60 pounds different. Have you ever played anyone 8 inches taller and 60 pounds heavier than you? Aldridge isn't some slob. He's a tall athletic NBA player who can dribble. This thought process that Monta Ellis would strip Aldridge constantly is so flawed that it is funny.


This is exactly right. Tried to explain this to him in 3 different "1v1" threads. Fails to see the logic. Becomes an even bigger difference when you factor in a big who can't shoot threes, and a guard who if given space can and will. TWICE the points as a 1 point shot. It's cut and dry. A guard like Ellis would smash Lemarcus in 1 v 1.

Too bad Ellis isn't a good 3pt shooter. Aldridge posting up Ellis is much more deadly than Ellis's perimeter game and it's not even close.

tredigs
04-08-2010, 08:46 PM
Big doesn't always beat small but in this case it definately does. Monta is not a good shooter and relies on attacking the basket. Aldridge has EIGHT INCHES on him. You don't think he can play off and contest his drives? Steals in one on one are not nearly as prevalent as you would think. Aldridge can just back him down the whole way. It's 60 pounds different. Have you ever played anyone 8 inches taller and 60 pounds heavier than you? Aldridge isn't some slob. He's a tall athletic NBA player who can dribble. This thought process that Monta Ellis would strip Aldridge constantly is so flawed that it is funny.



Too bad Ellis isn't a good 3pt shooter. Aldridge posting up Ellis is much more deadly than Ellis's perimeter game and it's not even close.

In years past, you might be right.

But Monta's become a much better 3pt shooter, it's just been a very recent development. In the last three months he's knocking them down at a respectable 37% (5 attempts/game) Lemarcus would have to give him a good deal of space to shoot, and he'd make them. And if he didn't --and Lemarcus lunged in to block the shot-- Monta would just blow by him to grab the long rebound. He's one of the top 5 quickest players in the NBA.

It would either be that deep shot, or Monta blowing by him for a reverse layup using the rim as a defender the entire game. And Monta WOULD pick him more than a few times as he tried to dribble down from three, you'd be crazy to think otherwise. I'm telling you, this would not be close, at all.

KnicksorBust
04-08-2010, 08:59 PM
In years past, you might be right.

But Monta's become a much better 3pt shooter, it's just been a very recent development. In the last three months he's knocking them down at a respectable 37% (5 attempts/game) Lemarcus would have to give him a good deal of space to shoot, and he'd make them. And if he didn't --and Lemarcus lunged in to block the shot-- Monta would just blow by him to grab the long rebound. He's one of the top 5 quickest players in the NBA.

It would either be that deep shot, or Monta blowing by him for a reverse layup using the rim as a defender the entire game. And Monta WOULD pick him more than a few times as he tried to dribble down from three, you'd be crazy to think otherwise. I'm telling you, this would not be close, at all.

So now Aldridge is buying every Monta head fake? Are there any other assumptions besides Aldridge not being able to stay on his feet or handle the ball? :rolleyes: Let's take a look at Monta's "respectable" 3pt shot from different ranges for the season:

<10 feet = 44%
10-15 feet = 40%
16-23 feet = 37%
Threes = 32%

Some of those are even below his career averages from that range. What's supposed to scare me if I'm Aldridge?

Also, I'd love someone else to chime in on Monta stealing the ball from Aldridge all the time. When you back someone down and you have that size advantage you can't rip it from the back he'd have to come around and then Aldridge can just spin, take two dribbles and dunk it.

KnicksorBust
04-09-2010, 09:35 AM
Monta Ellis advances to the Sweet 16.