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JordansBulls
04-01-2010, 12:55 AM
Right now the LA Lakers are 54-21 and the Orlando Magic are 52-22. Both teams split their series this season.

If they end up with the same record who would get HCA in the finals if they met?

Also LA is 32-13 in their conference and Orlando 34-13. So it is possible they both could have the same conference record as well.

*Superman*
04-01-2010, 01:02 AM
That would be crazy if everything was the same. I wonder what would happen.

_KB24_
04-01-2010, 01:03 AM
Kobe and Dwight in an epic battle of.............

ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS ;)

Raph12
04-01-2010, 01:06 AM
I think Orlando finishes with the 2nd best record, LA is playing very poorly of late (11-10 in their last 20 games), whereas the Magic are rolling (26-7 in their last 33 games [since the midpoint of the season {after loss against Lakers 41st game}]).

DCB/LAL
04-01-2010, 01:28 AM
This is HUGE wonder which of the 2 is gonna have home court in the Finals. :shrug:


Hopefully its LA wouldn't want 4 games in Orlando especially the way LA has played on the Road lately.

tnt and baby g
04-01-2010, 01:39 AM
cavs in 5 over fakers

*Superman*
04-01-2010, 01:42 AM
cavs in 5 over fakers

Wow thanks for staying on topic. :pity:

HuRRiCaNeS324
04-01-2010, 01:48 AM
Damn they'll prolly have to flip a coin lol

Sadds The Gr8
04-01-2010, 01:50 AM
Wouldnt the Lakers get it since they're a #1 seed?

jackdawson
04-01-2010, 02:08 AM
Kobe vs Dwight: A one-on-one 5 minute game, thus lakers get HCA..lol.

iggypop123
04-01-2010, 02:25 AM
is it decided by the all star game winner? lol

xBLAMEITON24x
04-01-2010, 02:25 AM
this is huge wonder which of the 2 is gonna have home court in the finals. :shrug:


Hopefully its la wouldn't want 4 games in orlando especially the way la has played on the road lately.


+1

heathonater
04-01-2010, 02:35 AM
the lakers have been a much better home team this year. orlando would have a much better shot at beating la in the finals if they had home court advantage. it will be interesting to see how all the playoff seedings work out going down the stretch.

shep33
04-01-2010, 04:34 AM
I actually don't think it matters if Orlando gets HCA against LA. LA beat them twice in the finals last year, lost to them by 2 this year even after playing poorly.

Orlando is better this year, but I think LA will still take it to them if they play them in the Finals. Lakers in 6 either way. Cause really what has Orlando proved that LA hasn't? They're records are very close, yet LA plays in the much better western conference where the 2-8 seeds are pretty much a wash. I actually think Orlando can beat Cleveland just b/c of matchups, but i've yet to be convinced that Orlando can beat LA. People will sa oh but the Magic beat them this year and Barnes shut down Kobe... that was 1 game, and i Kobe didn't play well yet LA still almost, and probably should've won.

So no I don't think it matters, i actually think its better for the Lakers to get 3 straight homegames.

shep33
04-01-2010, 04:45 AM
the lakers have been a much better home team this year. orlando would have a much better shot at beating la in the finals if they had home court advantage. it will be interesting to see how all the playoff seedings work out going down the stretch.

The only thing I can't see is LA not winning 1 of 4 in Orlando, i absolutely think thats possible.

JordansBulls
04-01-2010, 08:21 AM
TIEBREAKER BASIS:
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(3) Division won-lost percentage
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(6) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(7) Net Points, all games


It appears that #4 would come into affect but once again LA is 32-13 in their conference and Orlando is 34-13. Both teams play the same amount of games in their conference which is 52 games total.

So it looks like #5 would come into play.

Raph12
04-01-2010, 10:32 AM
I actually don't think it matters if Orlando gets HCA against LA. LA beat them twice in the finals last year, lost to them by 2 this year even after playing poorly.

Orlando is better this year, but I think LA will still take it to them if they play them in the Finals. Lakers in 6 either way. Cause really what has Orlando proved that LA hasn't? They're records are very close, yet LA plays in the much better western conference where the 2-8 seeds are pretty much a wash. I actually think Orlando can beat Cleveland just b/c of matchups, but i've yet to be convinced that Orlando can beat LA. People will sa oh but the Magic beat them this year and Barnes shut down Kobe... that was 1 game, and i Kobe didn't play well yet LA still almost, and probably should've won.

So no I don't think it matters, i actually think its better for the Lakers to get 3 straight homegames.

What has Orlando proved, they've proved that they're the best team in the league since the midpoint of the season (41 games in). The Magic are 26-7 since then and are storming into the playoffs, while LA is stumbling all over the place, they're 11-10 in their last 21 games and are barely holding onto their #1 record in the West. Plus the Magic are that much more hungry than the Lakeshow this season, they just want it more.

Orlando in 6 if they meet again.

td0tsfinest
04-01-2010, 10:44 AM
Lakers don't got an easy schedule to finish of the season. The Magic have a more favourable one. And with the way the lakers have been struggling, the Magic could end up getting the 2nd best record in the league.

mikantsass
04-01-2010, 10:59 AM
Wouldnt the Lakers get it since they're a #1 seed?

Thats what i was thinking too

G-Funk
04-01-2010, 11:11 AM
I think Orlando finishes with the 2nd best record, LA is playing very poorly of late (11-10 in their last 20 games), whereas the Magic are rolling (26-7 in their last 33 games [since the midpoint of the season {after loss against Lakers 41st game}]).

Lakers are 12-8 in their last 20 games. Magic are 16-4

Lakers are 8-3 in their last 11 games. Magic are 9-2

sep11ie
04-01-2010, 11:28 AM
I think Orlando finishes with the 2nd best record, LA is playing very poorly of late (11-10 in their last 20 games), whereas the Magic are rolling (26-7 in their last 33 games [since the midpoint of the season {after loss against Lakers 41st game}]).


Umm, wanna check that math bub?

JordansBulls
04-01-2010, 11:42 AM
Thats what i was thinking too

No.

JordansBulls
04-01-2010, 11:43 AM
Wouldnt the Lakers get it since they're a #1 seed?

Nope, doesn't work like that.

kobebabe
04-01-2010, 11:50 AM
cavs in 5 over fakers

That's how we know you only have 8 posts!! You sway out of topic. I bet you do the same in real life:facepalm:

Raph12
04-01-2010, 11:54 AM
Lakers are 12-8 in their last 20 games. Magic are 16-4

Lakers are 8-3 in their last 11 games. Magic are 9-2

I was going by what the commentators were saying during the Lakers game yesterday. These stats are accurate:

Magic: 13-2 in their last 15 games, 26-7 since the midpoint of the season (41 games in)

Lakers: 9-6 in their last 15 games, 22-12 since the midpoint of the season (41 games in)

kobebabe
04-01-2010, 11:59 AM
I really don't think it matters. WHY? coz the finals will be Lakers vs Cavs. Mark my word!

Elgin Baylor Fa
04-01-2010, 12:03 PM
Tie breaker rule #4 refers to the conference with the best record, not the team with the best conference record. Therefore, the Lakers would win the tie breaker.

G-Funk
04-01-2010, 12:09 PM
I was going by what the commentators were saying during the Lakers game yesterday. These stats are accurate:

Magic: 13-2 in their last 15 games, 26-7 since the midpoint of the season (41 games in)

Lakers: 9-6 in their last 15 games, 22-12 since the midpoint of the season (41 games in)

I like how you pushed it to the last 15 games just so you can add the Lakers last 3 losses.

ANYWAY. IMO if Magic do get HCA over the Lakers I can see them getting way more confident going against the Cavs.

Raph12
04-01-2010, 12:25 PM
I like how you pushed it to the last 15 games just so you can add the Lakers last 3 losses.

ANYWAY. IMO if Magic do get HCA over the Lakers I can see them getting way more confident going against the Cavs.

No actually I did it because that was right after a Magic loss (in a multiple of 5) lol.

And yeah I agree it will do a lot for their confidence, Dwight already thinks they can win their last 8 games.

JordansBulls
04-01-2010, 12:45 PM
No actually I did it because that was right after a Magic loss (in a multiple of 5) lol.

And yeah I agree it will do a lot for their confidence, Dwight already thinks they can win their last 8 games.

Also the Cavs have HCA locked up pretty much with a 5 game lead and 7 games left. So I don't expect the Cavs starters to play at least the last 2 games of the season.

Raph12
04-01-2010, 01:20 PM
Also the Cavs have HCA locked up pretty much with a 5 game lead and 7 games left. So I don't expect the Cavs starters to play at least the last 2 games of the season.

Someone had a good idea in the other thread about resting their guys in the Magic and Hawks games to exploit the mismatches their bench presents. Now chances are they get blown out, but it will be good for them to see if any of their bench guys have success against possible playoff opponents, it may come in handy down the stretch.

JordansBulls
04-12-2010, 12:38 PM
Orlando up 1 game over LA now. But still curious on if they are tied.

Avenged
04-12-2010, 09:29 PM
cavs in 5 over fakers

Man oh man. :facepalm:

Raph12
04-12-2010, 09:56 PM
Orlando up 1 game over LA now. But still curious on if they are tied.

Lakeshow takes it if we tie, we won tonight, if we win on Wed (against Sixers), we get HCA regardless of what LA does.

Avenged
04-12-2010, 09:59 PM
Lakeshow takes it if we tie, we won tonight, if we win on Wed (against Sixers), we get HCA regardless of what LA does.

Really?
dammit. :censored:

*Superman*
04-12-2010, 10:03 PM
Really?
dammit. :censored:

:up:

Raph12
04-12-2010, 10:05 PM
Really?
dammit. :censored:

Lol...

Well you guys lost in the Finals 2 seasons ago, redeeemed yourselves last year, now it's our turn. :p

Avenged
04-12-2010, 10:07 PM
Lol...

Well you guys lost in the Finals 2 seasons ago, redeeemed yourselves last year, now it's our turn. :p

Hopefully it's a rematch!

Raph12
04-12-2010, 10:15 PM
Hopefully it's a rematch!

:clap:

We can only hope...

JordansBulls
04-12-2010, 11:09 PM
Lakeshow takes it if we tie, we won tonight, if we win on Wed (against Sixers), we get HCA regardless of what LA does.

Which the Magic should do. I'm sure they are playing for HCA as well.

Raph12
04-12-2010, 11:25 PM
Which the Magic should do. I'm sure they are playing for HCA as well.

Yeah Stan said he wants to give them the best chance available, he said he's not sure if they will make it or if LA will make it, but he wants them to play for it just in case.

Now since they've been manhandling their opponents, Stan has been able to rest most of his starters for the most part, they rarely play even 30mpg nowadays.

Lakers4ItAll
04-12-2010, 11:35 PM
This isn't good for LA

TmacBryant
04-12-2010, 11:37 PM
and kobe isnt playing the last 2 games of the season ;(

_KB24_
04-12-2010, 11:37 PM
Lakeshow takes it if we tie, we won tonight, if we win on Wed (against Sixers), we get HCA regardless of what LA does.

You have got to be ******** me...... :bang:

Hey, see if you can get this across to SVG: Please rest Dwight for the game! :pray:

ManRam
04-12-2010, 11:42 PM
Some Laker fan made a thread about how the Lakers should purposely give Orlando HCA or some crazy **** like that. Forget their reasoning.

But this is big.

Orlando is 33-7 at home compared to 25-16 on the road.
Los Angeles is 33-7 at home and only 23-17 on the road.

HCA matters. I don't think we can beat LA on the road in a game 6 or 7. I think we could beat them easily at home in a game 6 or 7. And the 2-3-2 format favors the home team even more in the Finals.

Avenged
04-13-2010, 12:16 AM
Some Laker fan made a thread about how the Lakers should purposely give Orlando HCA or some crazy **** like that. Forget their reasoning.

But this is big.

Orlando is 33-7 at home compared to 25-16 on the road.
Los Angeles is 33-7 at home and only 23-17 on the road.

HCA matters. I don't think we can beat LA on the road in a game 6 or 7. I think we could beat them easily at home in a game 6 or 7. And the 2-3-2 format favors the home team even more in the Finals.

Yeah man, I don't know why he thought that way but whatever. As a Laker fan, I know how good this Laker team can be so I'm going to say that they can win in your home court. Again, just opinion. But if they play like they have been these past couple of weeks, they won't get far in that series let alone in the playoffs.

magicdouglas
04-13-2010, 01:19 PM
Yeah man, I don't know why he thought that way but whatever. As a Laker fan, I know how good this Laker team can be so I'm going to say that they can win in your home court. Again, just opinion. But if they play like they have been these past couple of weeks, they won't get far in that series let alone in the playoffs.

Finally I half agree with you, lol

and half don't

JordansBulls
04-13-2010, 03:07 PM
Some Laker fan made a thread about how the Lakers should purposely give Orlando HCA or some crazy **** like that. Forget their reasoning.

But this is big.

Orlando is 33-7 at home compared to 25-16 on the road.
Los Angeles is 33-7 at home and only 23-17 on the road.

HCA matters. I don't think we can beat LA on the road in a game 6 or 7. I think we could beat them easily at home in a game 6 or 7. And the 2-3-2 format favors the home team even more in the Finals.

Good point. Also I think HCA is important for a team that hasn't won it all unless they got guys on the team that won titles already.
Only team I can think of recently that won a title without it's top 2 players having championship experience without HCA was the 2004 Pistons.

2006 won the title as well, but Shaq had championship experience.

Raph12
04-14-2010, 10:54 PM
Well it's official, with the win tonight, Orlando has improved their record to 59-23 and have secured HCA should they return to the NBA Finals.

Lakers4ItAll
04-14-2010, 11:03 PM
Not good for the Lakers

JordansBulls
04-14-2010, 11:43 PM
Well it's official, with the win tonight, Orlando has improved their record to 59-23 and have secured HCA should they return to the NBA Finals.

Yep. Only team they have to worry about not having it against is Cleveland.

Raph12
04-15-2010, 12:01 AM
Yep. Only team they have to worry about not having it against is Cleveland.

Yup, beat them without it last season, but it's a new year, can't wait to see what happens.

JayW_1023
04-15-2010, 06:08 AM
Something tells me the Lakers will be in trouble...if they repeat despite not playing well heading into the playoffs, managing to get through the brutal West and win it all on the road...





...you gotta tip your hat to them. Plain simple. The odds are brutal though.

Hellcrooner
04-15-2010, 06:42 AM
enter the Hawks.

Just wait and see.

Tommyh1331
04-15-2010, 07:37 AM
exit the hawks...just wait and see