View Full Version : Will Marv Williams ever be a top 15-20 player in the league?

03-28-2010, 06:04 AM
I always thought he was drafted too high.

I think Top 15-20 in his prime, will be his ceiling. He obviously has the physical gifts to do it.

03-28-2010, 07:48 AM
Unfortunately, Never.

The talent in the League right now is just insane. A lot of Rookies who are just jumpstarting their careers have more potential than Marvin Williams. On this ROOKIE CLASS alone, there is Tyreke, Steph, Collison, Jennings, Holiday, Blair, *Rubio, *Blake Griffin, Douglas etc, who could make an impact and take the league by storm. There are just TOO MANY GOOD players nowadays. So Marv Williams, may never even be in the discussion as a Top 20 or 30 player in the League.

03-28-2010, 11:21 AM
That ship sailed long ago. I still think he can be a very good player for us (and he is going to have to be due to the contract we just gave him), but no where close to a top 15-20 player. That is superstar level, and he just doesn't have the raw athleticism for that kind of potential. I do think he can be a solid contributor to the team though.

03-28-2010, 12:06 PM
WOW no he will never be!

03-28-2010, 03:33 PM
I can't find it exactly, but I have seen on Espn's website there is a ranking of players based on total statistical contribution. LeBron is first of course. I believe Durant then Wade then Kobe follow. I love this stat though because it is a point system that takes into consideration all stats.
Tying this in to the thread topic, the highest rated hawks player is Josh Smith. A week or so ago he was about 30th in the league followed closely by Joe Johnson, considerably down the list popped up Al Horford. I like to crunch numbers and this just leads me to believe that with 30 teams in the league and Marvin is maybe, maybe, 4th best on the team statistically speaking he is probably inside the top 100. To ever be considered a top 15-20 he would have to be the best on our team and better than the best player on about half the teams out there. I personally don't see it possible. Now, if Josh could learn to hit his jump shot and add about six points a game, one rebound a game and perhaps an assist bump too, then he jumps from top 30 to top 15-20. All this could happen if a legitimate Center landed in our laps this offseason.
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03-28-2010, 04:19 PM
No. He will never even be the go-to guy on his own team. But he is a solid starter & a great team player.

03-28-2010, 05:17 PM
Top 15-20? Seriously?

03-28-2010, 08:11 PM
It's hard to be a top 15-20 player in the league, when your not a top 3 player on your team.

03-29-2010, 01:37 AM

03-29-2010, 12:57 PM
No......... I don't think it has anything to do with talent. I just don't think he has the desire to be.

04-02-2010, 09:09 PM
:facepalm: start mo

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04-02-2010, 09:52 PM
I don't think he'll ever be a top 15-20 players but he would likely produce more on a team where he'd be demanded more of a role. As Indiansfan said though, he is a great team player and definitely helps the Hawks.

04-26-2010, 11:27 PM
Due birds fu^& bubble bees

04-27-2010, 09:54 AM
Marvin Williams doesnt excel in anything. I say we trade him and our 1st rd pick for a center. Greg Odom??

04-30-2010, 01:48 PM
You say "when he is in his prime"...we is pretty much in his prime right now and NO he wont ever be more than a decent NBA player. He is good but not a top 15-20 player...that would mean he is an all star type player...and that is not the case.

05-12-2010, 02:24 AM
i agree with packaging him to get a center. we definately need to get bigger.