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SaimoNETS
03-20-2010, 11:36 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-afterthebuzzer031910

Kobe believes Turner is the best player, while LeBron thinks it's Wall.
What do you think?

Hawkeye15
03-20-2010, 11:38 AM
Turner is the better player right now, but Wall has the potential, which is why LeBron said he will be the first pick. He is dynamic. Turner has all the tools, and is smooth and full of skill, so Kobe likes him better.
I say you can't go wrong with either, but Wall will go #1, due to his upside alone

zambo4president
03-20-2010, 11:44 AM
I'm definitely not impressed or sold on Evan Turner. I'm not exactly sure Wall is the best right now but he's got the most potential.

jetsfan28
03-20-2010, 11:45 AM
That's the opposite of what I expected

Master Mind
03-20-2010, 11:51 AM
John Wall is the real deal...Derrick Rose didn't post eye popping numbers at Memphis but he's been ripping it up in the league, I see the same thing with Wall...Evan Turner is exactly like Brandon Roy IMO, not overly athletic but has a complete game which puts him in consideration for that top pick but his potential isn't as great as Wall's

SaimoNETS
03-20-2010, 11:55 AM
That's the opposite of what I expected

Yeah, since Turner goes to Ohio St., you would think LeBron would be a bigger fan of his.

jrm2054
03-20-2010, 11:57 AM
I feel it's wall

sep11ie
03-20-2010, 11:59 AM
Wow, this is what we're resorting to? As if theres not enough LeBron/Kobe threads...

AIMelo=KillaDUO
03-20-2010, 12:00 PM
John Wall is the real deal...Derrick Rose didn't post eye popping numbers at Memphis but he's been ripping it up in the league, I see the same thing with Wall...Evan Turner is exactly like Brandon Roy IMO, not overly athletic but has a complete game which puts him in consideration for that top pick but his potential isn't as great as Wall's

This.

Evan Turner is beast! A 6'7" guy who can play point. The B Roy comparrison is perfect.

GSRaider
03-20-2010, 12:03 PM
Wall has the potential
Turner is currently the more complete player

Right now... Turner is the better player

jackdawson
03-20-2010, 12:07 PM
That makes sense, why would Lebron like another small forward? lol... Anyway, I believe turner is in his senior year and putting up great numbers; therefore, more a ready piece for nba. John Wall is a freshman, so you can't really relate their stats for that matter. Think about a John Wall in his senior year (which is 3 more years from now), so yes, John Wall's potential is better than Turner's.

RadiantShot
03-20-2010, 12:15 PM
Kobe knows greatness.

Raph12
03-20-2010, 01:41 PM
Wall has more upside.

ManRam
03-20-2010, 01:45 PM
Kobe is right.

RocketsRule
03-20-2010, 01:48 PM
I found this part of the article to be interesting:


“If you miss on John Wall, the worst you get is Derrick Rose,” the GM said. “If you miss on Evan Turner, you get Larry Hughes.”

Of course, that would be the worst case-scenario for Turner, but still an enticing fact nonetheless.

magichatnumber9
03-20-2010, 02:03 PM
Seriously I think some of the later picks are gonna be surprises. This draft is da bomb.

JIDsanity
03-20-2010, 02:22 PM
I found this part of the article to be interesting:



Of course, that would be the worst case-scenario for Turner, but still an enticing fact nonetheless.

Im not attacking you, but

Larry Hughes is 6'5, Turner is 6'7. Turner is a very good rebounder, Hughes is not, Hughes admittedly plays for fun and would rather get a lot of minutes on a bad team than play for a winner, Turner plays hard all the time and wins. Obviously the comparison comes from their ability to handle the ball and see over the defense, score, and lack of jump shooting, but IMO that is a bad assessment

RadiantShot
03-20-2010, 03:51 PM
Im not attacking you, but

Larry Hughes is 6'5, Turner is 6'7. Turner is a very good rebounder, Hughes is not, Hughes admittedly plays for fun and would rather get a lot of minutes on a bad team than play for a winner, Turner plays hard all the time and wins. Obviously the comparison comes from their ability to handle the ball and see over the defense, score, and lack of jump shooting, but IMO that is a bad assessment

I don't think you read the quote correctly.

Ethix11
03-20-2010, 04:00 PM
ive thought wall was overrated. so im going with turner. plus i trust kobe more

ripjhb18
03-20-2010, 04:04 PM
The question should be who do you think will be the better pro. Id say right now Turner is clearly better, doesn't mean I think he is going to have a better career.

sep11ie
03-20-2010, 04:17 PM
I can see it now, a Nike commercial with puppets of Kobe and LeBron arguing over who should go number 1...

shep33
03-20-2010, 04:52 PM
I think this draft is pretty weak actually. Turner and Wall are very good, but really not the superstar-like filled draft as we've seen before. I think Wall is gonna be good, but i dunno if he's gonna be as good as people think. He's a tall pg, but he doesn't look as physically strong as Rose or Tyreke Evans. In the NBA you take a pounding, look at Brandon Jennings, the guy started out amazing, but his stats have dropped significantly. Don't get me wrong, Jennings is awesome, but you can see how guys like Rose and Evans maintain their production due to their strength. I've heard some stuff about Wall and Calipari not getting along, and i mean if you can't get along with Calipari, then Wall may have a strong personality. He seems like that a bit too when you watch him play, pretty arrogant somtimes, which I like, but we'll see how his teammates may perceive it.

My sleeper pick is Cousins, i think the guy is a beast, and will be the most consistent player in the draft, not the best, but solid across the board.

JordansBulls
03-20-2010, 04:56 PM
John Wall has been hyped since he came into College.

Burkey3472
03-20-2010, 04:57 PM
Turner is the better college player right now but I feel that Wall will have the better pro career.

kblo247
03-20-2010, 05:06 PM
It's not really surprising when you think about it.

They both see some of themselves in the other guy. Turner has a more refined all around game so Kobe likes him. Wall has better physical tools and athleticism but needs some work to be the best he can be and Lebron gets that and likes him.

Raidaz4Life
03-20-2010, 05:10 PM
Turner is clearly the better player right now... can't necessarily say he will have the better NBA career though

arkanian215
03-20-2010, 05:13 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-afterthebuzzer031910

Kobe believes Turner is the best player, while LeBron thinks it's Wall.
What do you think?

Figures LeBron likes Wall. They love dancing. Anyone else see the dancing bit from the Kentucky players on CBS? It wasn't in game. It was just in their practice gym just relaxing (Cousins, Orton, Wall and Bledsoe were showing off their moves). Also LeBron has been trying to get Wall to join his marketing campaign (future business partners?).

JIMMY CONWAY
03-20-2010, 05:16 PM
Lebron gets his opinion that Wall is better only 'cause he stays up all night watching Sports Center to see highlights of himself and catches Wall highlights as he waits for the show to rerun on the hour.

Lebron is the kind of guy who kisses himself in the mirror. He probably flexes his butt in the mirror when he gets out of the shower and winks and smiles at himself as he walks out.

Bullsfan22
03-20-2010, 05:22 PM
I hate kobe but I value his opinion on players more than bron and it backs up my opinion also. I think turner is the better player now and will be in the nba. Wall has more upside and ath;etic ability but that doesn't always pan out.

Turner is a Joe Johnson/Brandon Roy clone with the potential and body frame to be the best on the ball perimeter defender in the league someday.

jmtapia
03-20-2010, 05:58 PM
I'm definitely not impressed or sold on Evan Turner. I'm not exactly sure Wall is the best right now but he's got the most potential.

20/9/6 ... not impressive?? :rolleyes: He might not be the #1 pick but Turner has been in beast mode all year long.

Wall's size, quickness and athleticism at the PG is to much to pass up.

Sadds The Gr8
03-20-2010, 06:02 PM
me and my friends had this argument. The thing about it is that although Turner seems to be the better college player, we don't know what he'll be as a pro...while everyone knows about John Wall's potential and explosiveness. I'll say Wall, becuase we know what Wall is, but we don't know what kind of pro Turner will be.

B.JenningsMVP
03-20-2010, 06:11 PM
Evan Turner and John Wall debate is the College Hoops version of Kobe/Lebron debate! haha

jmtapia
03-20-2010, 06:14 PM
people forget that Wall's a Freshmen while Turner is a Junior.

Wall as a Junior in NCAA would be :drool:

Turner
2007-2008 8.5pts/4.4rbs/2.6ast
2008-2009 17.3/7.1/4.0
2009-2010 19.9/9.2/5.9

Wall
2009-2010 16.9/4.2/6.5

DodgerBulls
03-20-2010, 06:20 PM
Wow, this is what we're resorting to? As if theres not enough LeBron/Kobe threads...

it seems like you are the first one to stir away from the turner/wall argument. You just went straight back to Lebron/Kobe.

BALLER R
03-20-2010, 10:08 PM
John Wall has been hyped since he came into College.

college i been hearing about that guy from his highschool years..so he better not disappoint

BALLER R
03-20-2010, 10:10 PM
lebron like wall...wat are the chances of them playing on the same team next year hmmmmmmm

topdog
03-20-2010, 10:35 PM
Any surprise? The player each one likes better is more like the superstar himself. We're all narcissists, just some of us are willing to admit it.

FlakeyFool
03-20-2010, 10:36 PM
john wall


next.

heathonater
03-20-2010, 10:38 PM
i think lebron and wall are close friends from what ive heard. probably why he thinks wall is better.

JIMMY CONWAY
03-20-2010, 11:52 PM
Who's Lebron James?

_KB24_
03-20-2010, 11:58 PM
I disagree with the notion that you should disregard team needs for talent. Teams like Utah and the Hornets should go for Turner if they were to win the lottery. But Wall has much more upside, so struggling teams looking for an identity should grab him at once, like the Knicks.

ldc62
03-21-2010, 12:00 AM
Turner is probably better right now. But I like Wall more.

ldc62
03-21-2010, 12:01 AM
I disagree with the notion that you should disregard team needs for talent. Teams like Utah and the Hornets should go for Turner if they were to win the lottery. But Wall has much more upside, so struggling teams looking for an identity should grab him at once, like the Knicks.

Knick's draft pick is owned by the Jazz right now.

TheKing23
03-21-2010, 12:23 AM
lebron like wall...wat are the chances of them playing on the same team next year hmmmmmmm

Zero

The Cavs don't have a first rounder...

cwilson21
03-21-2010, 01:41 AM
people forget that Wall's a Freshmen while Turner is a Junior.

Wall as a Junior in NCAA would be :drool:

Turner
2007-2008 8.5pts/4.4rbs/2.6ast
2008-2009 17.3/7.1/4.0
2009-2010 19.9/9.2/5.9

Wall
2009-2010 16.9/4.2/6.5

Wall plays nearly 8 minutes more than Turner did as a Freshman.

He's also a part of one of the greatest recruiting classes in the history of college basketball (three 5 star players and one 4 star player). Cousins was the 2nd overall prospect in the nation and Orton and Bledsoe were 22 and 23 respectively. That doesn't even include Patrick Patterson whose going to be a first round draft pick next year.

The talent that Wall has played with far exceeds what Turner started with.

_KB24_
03-21-2010, 03:12 AM
Zero

The Cavs don't have a first rounder...

Who says their going to play in Cleveland?

Fireworld
03-21-2010, 04:32 AM
I don't get to see any college games in Tunisia, but from the highlights I've see, I'll have to go with Wall. Can you imagine if Utah won and got Turner next to Deron?! Pretty good back court for years to come.

JayW_1023
03-21-2010, 06:58 AM
I like Turner better.

RaysFan
03-21-2010, 06:56 PM
Turner is better in college. Wall's game will explode in the NBA pick and roll offense. He can get to the basket so easily.

NY Till I Die
03-22-2010, 08:21 AM
Up until his injury earlier in the year I would have said Turner. But Wall has impressed me a lot. Even though Wall has a teammate that in my opinion will end up being impressive as well in Bledsoe.

king4day
03-22-2010, 09:28 AM
I'm more concerned about what Luc Mbah a Moute thinks. I bet he likes Turner.

avrpatsfan
03-22-2010, 10:03 AM
Evan Turner for sure. More rebounds, more points, and almost the same assists.

avrpatsfan
03-22-2010, 10:04 AM
I don't get to see any college games in Tunisia, but from the highlights I've see, I'll have to go with Wall. Can you imagine if Utah won and got Turner next to Deron?! Pretty good back court for years to come.

Wow that would be an awesome team. They would have to keep Boozer because that team would win a championship.

twoearl
03-22-2010, 10:32 AM
Wall has more upside.

You are 100%. But the question is who is the best NCAA player, as in who is the best player right now, March 2010. And that answer is Evan Turner.

But if you ask me who will be the best in 3 or 4 years. I will say Wall.

Miltown34
03-22-2010, 11:50 AM
I found this part of the article to be interesting:



Of course, that would be the worst case-scenario for Turner, but still an enticing fact nonetheless.

I think that's overrating Wall and kind of underrating Turner.

Miltown34
03-22-2010, 11:51 AM
But the draft is all about potential starting next year not this year but 2010 and beyond. So people might as well go with Wall