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TampaFan
03-19-2010, 11:41 PM
LeBron James reached the 15k points milestone at 25 years, 79 days, and he did it in his 540th game. The previous record was Kobe Bryant at 27 years, 136 days and playing his 657th game.

Can this be topped? Remember, LeBron was 18 when he was drafted, the youngest possible at the time. Under current rules, a player must be 19 and one year removed from high school. Can LeBron's feat be topped with a year less to do it?

flea
03-19-2010, 11:44 PM
Durant has an outside shot at it because his offensive game is absurd, but like you said he's essentially a year behind.

Raph12
03-19-2010, 11:53 PM
If Durant can score 29-30ppg for the next 4 years, then yes, it can be broken.

TheKing23
03-20-2010, 12:11 AM
If Durant continues to score at his current rate for the rest of the season, he'll have 5,930 career points by the end of the year.

He turns 25 on the 28th September 2013, so he has the 2010-11 season, 2011-12 season and 2012-13 season (and probably about 15 games of the 2013-14 season because of those extra 79 days). That's 261 games IF he plays EVERY game (unlikely). Over that time period he has to average 34.7 points a game to break LeBron's record...

No... LeBron's record can't be topped.

Ragun
03-20-2010, 12:13 AM
^^ yeah. not happening. lebron will eventually end up scoring the most points in history iMO.

tredigs
03-20-2010, 01:15 AM
If Durant continues to score at his current rate for the rest of the season, he'll have 5,930 career points by the end of the year.

He turns 25 on the 28th September 2013, so he has the 2010-11 season, 2011-12 season and 2012-13 season (and probably about 15 games of the 2013-14 season because of those extra 79 days). That's 261 games IF he plays EVERY game (unlikely). Over that time period he has to average 34.7 points a game to break LeBron's record...

No... LeBron's record can't be topped.

Barring a 7'6" SF with post moves and a dagger three coming along in the next generation (or the rules being changed to allow for HS players to come straight to the pro's again), Durant has the best chance. But yeah, if your math's correct, that isn't happening.

I could see him beating Lebron to 15K in number of games played if he averages around 30 a year for however long it takes (4 more years?), but that's a post-merger (I don't count Wilts, etc when comparing to the players/rules of this era) record that probably belongs to MJ, and probably won't be beat.

TampaFan
03-20-2010, 01:15 AM
If Durant continues to score at his current rate for the rest of the season, he'll have 5,930 career points by the end of the year.

He turns 25 on the 28th September 2013, so he has the 2010-11 season, 2011-12 season and 2012-13 season (and probably about 15 games of the 2013-14 season because of those extra 79 days). That's 261 games IF he plays EVERY game (unlikely). Over that time period he has to average 34.7 points a game to break LeBron's record...

No... LeBron's record can't be topped.

Durant is a beast, to be sure, but I think you're right, his record is safe, unless, the NBA moves the age back again. Very unlikely. If anything, they'll move the age up requiring something to the effect of NFL's three years out of high school to help boost the college game.

jmtapia
03-20-2010, 01:24 AM
Durant has a shot...

jackdawson
03-20-2010, 01:43 AM
NO under CURRENT rules.

RadiantShot
03-20-2010, 01:49 AM
That's insane.
15,000 already?
Wow. Nuts.

GoatMilk
03-20-2010, 01:51 AM
Durant does have a shot
he's a little behind LeBron's pace, but he still has a little chance

ldc62
03-20-2010, 04:23 AM
^^ yeah. not happening. lebron will eventually end up scoring the most points in history iMO.

Why not? Durant is a lethal scorer and pretty clutch. Lebron will be up there in the point totals, but don't know about number 1. Injuries could happen...

Cavs_Fan24
03-20-2010, 05:16 AM
durant has the best chance but it'll be tough

LeBroom
03-20-2010, 05:25 AM
Lol, It doesn't matter if Durant can TOP this record.

What I am sure of is that Durant will be playing longer than Lebron James at a high level anyway.

Lebron is a freak of nature, and I mean that in a good way. Great physical gifts, one of the best athletes ever in any sport. But his type of game is not meant to last long. At BEST, he can play at a high level till the age of 33, then he starts dropping down hill. Or at worst, he's over at age 32.

While Durant's game, which is more on shooting and driving with finesse... He can last for like 35-37 yrs old. Just like Ray Allen...

At the end of the day, I think either of the 2 will end up with the Highest Scoring total next to Kareem. If Lebron can prove me wrong and still dominate at Age 35-36, then he will surely be the Top scorer in NBA History (or 2nd).

alencp3
03-20-2010, 06:15 AM
I think he will make the record.

J-Relo
03-20-2010, 07:01 AM
don't see it

m26555
03-20-2010, 10:15 AM
Maybe Durant?

the unknown
03-20-2010, 10:37 AM
i agree with that.. his scoring numbers will go down when he gets into his 30's .. but i think his assist number will probably go up as his scoring goes down.. i can see him as a 32 year older averging 23-8-11

prodigy
03-20-2010, 10:40 AM
The best thing about Lebron is that he still gets bashed by the media for being a pass first player.

TheKing23
03-20-2010, 11:03 AM
To all those people that think Durant has a shot, he has to do what has only be done 3 times in the modern era of basketball, (Twice by Jordan, 37.1 and 35.0, and once by Kobe, 35.4) and that's average an ABSURD 34.7 points a game for THREE straight seasons.

It's not happening...

Iodine
03-20-2010, 11:19 AM
AJ Abrams tk23 AJ Abrams

Boss Man Chief
03-20-2010, 11:31 AM
The King is right its no tgonna happen lebron haters and KD lovers have to except it. He shattered kobes record. You have to think lebron came into town knowing he had to be the man and produced. Not a lot of players come into the league shining (jordan, a.i., wilt). not even kobe came into the league as a "threat". so for someone to break lebrons record they are going to have to come out harder than a lebron with a year less because of the new rules. NOT HAPPENING!

avrpatsfan
03-20-2010, 11:32 AM
It's going to be hard to beat his record. I think if Lebron is able to convert to a shooter when he gets older he will break the record.

stripersniper77
03-20-2010, 11:33 AM
you all realize that 6 players have accomplished the feat in less games right?

sep11ie
03-20-2010, 12:12 PM
The best thing about Lebron is that he still gets bashed by the media for being a pass first player.

Oh, LeBron gets bashed by the media??? Please...:facepalm:

RadiantShot
03-20-2010, 12:14 PM
Oh, LeBron gets bashed by the media??? Please...:facepalm:

x2.

J-Relo
03-20-2010, 12:18 PM
you all realize that 6 players have accomplished the feat in less games right?

?who?

GodsSon
03-20-2010, 12:26 PM
I still don't see anyone surpassing Kareem's spot

Dpop07
03-20-2010, 12:48 PM
Lol, It doesn't matter if Durant can TOP this record.

What I am sure of is that Durant will be playing longer than Lebron James at a high level anyway.

Lebron is a freak of nature, and I mean that in a good way. Great physical gifts, one of the best athletes ever in any sport. But his type of game is not meant to last long. At BEST, he can play at a high level till the age of 33, then he starts dropping down hill. Or at worst, he's over at age 32.

While Durant's game, which is more on shooting and driving with finesse... He can last for like 35-37 yrs old. Just like Ray Allen...

At the end of the day, I think either of the 2 will end up with the Highest Scoring total next to Kareem. If Lebron can prove me wrong and still dominate at Age 35-36, then he will surely be the Top scorer in NBA History (or 2nd).

Lebron will change his game to match whatever decline he has. he could develop that shot even more and become a perimeter player or develop his post game which is more likely or both! He has all of the gifts to play until he's 37-38 because of his versatility. not sure if he'll hold the title of the top scorer of all time because his game is so well rounded.

NBAfan4life
03-20-2010, 02:21 PM
you all realize that 6 players have accomplished the feat in less games right?

What 6 players? Does anyone else know either

nuggetsyankees
03-20-2010, 02:43 PM
it's crazy cause Bosh got his 10,000 point a few games ago and the only way someone would beat that record is if they take away the rule about one year in University or in Europe

what54!?
03-20-2010, 02:44 PM
with players not being able to come straight out of high school anymore no until that rule is changed.

RareAir51
03-20-2010, 03:16 PM
It's not a record... Its media overhype again. Wilt reached 15,000 in 358. Jordan in 460, Lebron 540. Ever night in every sport they keep pushing these meaningless stats. "Lebron James (also insert Kobe if you'd like) is the first player in the entire history of basketball to step out of the locker room left foot first then proceed to score his first 5 points on a three shot and reverse dunk, while giving the ball a counter clockwise rotation" We have to start putting REAL records in proper perspective on level playing ground.

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sep11ie
03-20-2010, 03:26 PM
^ thats some funny **** right there!

prodigy
03-20-2010, 03:27 PM
Oh, LeBron gets bashed by the media??? Please...:facepalm:


Skip bayless! The whole Barry family! Just to name a couple.

LegendX
03-30-2010, 09:40 PM
It's not a record... Its media overhype again. Wilt reached 15,000 in 358. Jordan in 460, Lebron 540. Ever night in every sport they keep pushing these meaningless stats. "Lebron James (also insert Kobe if you'd like) is the first player in the entire history of basketball to step out of the locker room left foot first then proceed to score his first 5 points on a three shot and reverse dunk, while giving the ball a counter clockwise rotation" We have to start putting REAL records in proper perspective on level playing ground.

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momoneyyyy
03-30-2010, 09:57 PM
lebron was the youngest but not the fastest.

momoneyyyy
03-30-2010, 10:00 PM
wilt and michael and a few others did it faster.

Raps18-19 Champ
03-30-2010, 10:04 PM
Durant probably can't make it.

Durant was 20 when he started in the league. 2 years more than Lebron.

Lebron is 25 and has 15K. Durant probably needs at least 3000-3500 points per season or average around 34-35 PPG in the next 3 years to catch up.

td0tsfinest
03-30-2010, 10:07 PM
Lebron is a beast. No ones going to come close, it might be easier if they get rid of the "one year at college" rule.

AirCanada15ORL
03-30-2010, 10:15 PM
This record is of no importance to thee almighty Lebron James. The only thing that matters is all the championships he's won and will win.
But he could make like 500 more records like this if he wanted to, if he really wanted to. Record could have been even larger and harder to break.
And even if someone did break this record, you bet you're bottom dollar the poor man would be confiscated in seconds by Lebron's Nike crew.

albertc86
03-30-2010, 10:38 PM
^^ yeah. not happening. lebron will eventually end up scoring the most points in history iMO.

I have my reservations on him achieving that feat. LeBron hasn't made his transformation/transition yet that all superstars must go through. Give it four more years and he'll be forced to become more reliant on his shooting ability rather than his brute strength to get to the rim. LeBron's physical attributes are unique, in that, with his body type, he could choose to go one of two ways: he could cut weight to retain his speed/athleticism or bulk up so he can continue to impose his strength. Another thing you must consider is his willingness to pass the ball. To become an all-time scoring leader you must be selfish to some degree and he hasn't shown that he can do that. There's no telling how his game will evolve as he hits 30's.

philab
03-30-2010, 10:47 PM
LeBron has every record from 1k to 15k. The better question is: will he take every record from 1k to 39k?

Only Wilt, Kareem, or MJ could "catch" him. It would be pretty damn crazy for a player to have essentially been the youngest player for every point he scored.

CowboysKB24
03-30-2010, 10:55 PM
LeBron James reached the 15k points milestone at 25 years, 79 days, and he did it in his 540th game. The previous record was Kobe Bryant at 27 years, 136 days and playing his 657th game.

Can this be topped? Remember, LeBron was 18 when he was drafted, the youngest possible at the time. Under current rules, a player must be 19 and one year removed from high school. Can LeBron's feat be topped with a year less to do it?

The age probably won't be beat, but Jordan and Wilt did it in fewer games.

rhaas74
03-30-2010, 11:36 PM
What is really crazy is if you take his career average minus his rookie year, he is averaging approximately 2250 points a year. That means he will be on the top 25 all time list in 3 years. And in 4 years will be right up there with Iverson for 17th all time. That is just crazy. Taking it to 5 more years, he would be pushing top 10 status.

mr_relevant
03-31-2010, 02:18 AM
I can see Durant getting 31-32ppg for years to come, so I say he has an outside shot.

MagicDojo
03-31-2010, 10:08 AM
Unless they change the age rules back this record is safe for a long long time.