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ko8e24
03-18-2010, 02:18 PM
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/2010/03/post-53.html

Ron Artest played against the Kings for the first time as a member of the Lakers earlier toinight, which means he got his first up close and personal look at rookie Tyreke Evans. He missed the previous two games with a concussion. And, yes, he was impressed. Though Evans struggled from the field until tossing in a few late layups - he was 5-of-16 through three quarters - he missed another triple-double by a single assist. He also did a great job pushing the ball in the opening half, and afterward said he regretted not dictating a crisper pace in the final two periods. But here's Artest on the rookie, whom he defended more effectively than did Kobe Bryant: "He played great. Good player, good player. He attacks, he can attack. He has his time to go get 50 or 40 points. He's a rookie. I was really impressed with his poise. He's got to be more of a leader though. He has the potential now -- he doesn't talk enough to his teammates. A guy with that much poise should have more leadership. That much poise, at that age .... He's 20? With that much poise, a smart player, he needs to take a bigger role, a man's role, that man's leadership role, and direct his teammates. And make his teammates better. Then take over when it's necessary."

Asked a few minutes later about being guarded by Artest, who was told by Phil Jackson before the game that the Lakers needed his defense - not his offense - to win the game, Evans smiled and nodded. "He's got the quickest hands I've ever played against. He moves so well straight up, you got to try to beat him lateral, beat him off the dribble. I tried to do that on the pick and rolls, try to get by him."

MTone8788
03-18-2010, 02:24 PM
Sounds like good advice for Tyreke Evans

AI4MVP
03-18-2010, 02:36 PM
yeah i noticed this in derrick rose last year a little bit. there both not very vocal

jimbobjarree
03-18-2010, 02:43 PM
that spin move Reke did on Artest was pretty nasty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47fh8KKB4HM

Hawkeye15
03-18-2010, 02:47 PM
sometimes Artest can actually not sound like a total ******. This is good advice

DerekRE_3
03-18-2010, 02:52 PM
Well usually it takes a year or two for young guys to start being more vocal. It's kind of tough to tell 6, 7 year veterans what to do when you are a 20 year old rookie. He's started to get more vocal, he just called out Andres Nocioni recently during a timeout a week or so ago. He did apologize for it, but he was right.


"We were in the game, and you come down and take bad shots?" That's not team basketball. Coach (Paul Westphal) didn't say nothing, so I thought I had to step up (and say something)."

Source: Sacbee (http://www.sacbee.com/2010/03/10/2595875/evans-sorry-for-criticizing-teammate.html)

billy17
03-18-2010, 02:54 PM
Fourth youngest player in the league, I think that will come with little time. Maybe like.. an offseason.

sacgiants1213
03-18-2010, 02:57 PM
maybe if Evans was a true point guard, this wouldn't be a problem.

CityofTreez
03-18-2010, 02:58 PM
I agree with Artest's statement.

Tyreke isn't the most vocal player out there, but he is only 20 years old and sucking up all the facets of the NBA as a rookie. After this year, he will solidify himself as Leader of the sac Kings!

sad to say, but Francisco garcia is our most vocal player, with Beno Udrih trailing behind!

avrpatsfan
03-18-2010, 03:01 PM
Good advice from Ron Artest. Now Tyreke can return the favor by telling Artest not to run into the stands and beat up a fan ;)

ko8e24
03-18-2010, 03:02 PM
Good advice from Ron Artest. Now Tyreke can return the favor by telling Artest not to run into the stands and beat up a fan ;)

Uncalled for. :pity:

Burkey3472
03-18-2010, 03:03 PM
Artest is right but he's only a rookie, not every player comes into the league and are local leaders right off the bat, it develops over time.

jrm2054
03-18-2010, 03:10 PM
He'll become a leader with time he is only 20

sugarrayray
03-18-2010, 03:11 PM
Ya Tyreke Evans is very much unlike Brandon Jennings; a guy who is very vocal and leading his team to the playoffs. He makes everyone around him so much better. Evans just racks up all the personal stats.

n83417
03-18-2010, 03:19 PM
Uncalled for. :pity:

Why is it uncalled for? It happened.

RadiantShot
03-18-2010, 03:20 PM
Leave it to Artest to talk about being a leader. LMFAO.

n83417
03-18-2010, 03:21 PM
Ya Tyreke Evans is very much unlike Brandon Jennings; a guy who is very vocal and leading his team to the playoffs. He makes everyone around him so much better. Evans just racks up all the personal stats.

Brandon Jennings sucks. He's a wanna be punk. Bogut is leading that team to the playoffs. Not Jennings. As Jennings got worse, Bogut got signifigantly better, as did the Bucks. Jennings is terrible.

GSW Hoops
03-18-2010, 03:29 PM
Ya Tyreke Evans is very much unlike Brandon Jennings; a guy who is very vocal and leading his team to the playoffs. He makes everyone around him so much better. Evans just racks up all the personal stats.

Yeah, because assists, a good FG% and game-winning plays are all "personal stats."

GSW Hoops
03-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Leave it to Artest to talk about being a leader. LMFAO.

Haha yeah. At Tyreke's age, Ron was applying for jobs at Radio Shack and downing booze at halftime.

RadiantShot
03-18-2010, 03:35 PM
Haha yeah. At Tyreke's age, Ron was applying for jobs at Radio Shack and downing booze at halftime.

LOL.
:hide:
The Laker's fans might get mad.
Hide!

kblo247
03-18-2010, 03:42 PM
Haha yeah. At Tyreke's age, Ron was applying for jobs at Radio Shack and downing booze at halftime.

At that age Ron, hadn't had past involvement in a shooting either :eyebrow:

It was some good advice mainly because that team lacks an old vet who has done anything of substance (all star, championships) to do the leading vocally as well as by example

kblo247
03-18-2010, 03:45 PM
Kobe had an interesting comment on him as well:


“Steph’s a phenomenal player,” Kobe Bryant said. “But Tyreke — that’s a grown-*** man.”

billy17
03-18-2010, 03:51 PM
Ya Tyreke Evans is very much unlike Brandon Jennings; a guy who is very vocal and leading his team to the playoffs. He makes everyone around him so much better. Evans just racks up all the personal stats.

20 pts 5 reb 5 ast

Oscar Robertson
Michael Jordan
Lebron James
Tyreke Evans

Youre right, Tyreke doesnt help the team at all. Every time he scores, creates a score, grabs a rebound, or snatches a late game steal, the team suffers; but give me these stats any rookie season and you deserve ROY

kblo247
03-18-2010, 03:57 PM
20 pts 5 reb 5 ast

Oscar Robertson
Michael Jordan
Lebron James
Tyreke Evans

Youre right, Tyreke doesnt help the team at all. Every time he scores, creates a score, grabs a rebound, or snatches a late game steal, the team suffers; but give me these stats any rookie season and you deserve ROY

Give me a rookie who took over a Bucks team that lost a 20pt guy in Jefferson and all-star/Olympian in Redd while actually playing PG (Evans and the Kings winning games came with him playing SG and Udrih at PG with Martin out, and the second he switched back to PG they starting losing left and right) for ROY personally.

Everything Jennings does means more than what Curry, Evans, DC, or Thornton do because it results in wins. He helps his team compete for a playoff spot while the collect ping pong balls and that shouldn't be discredited because he is an actual PG whose only problem is his shooting (Nick Van Exel like percentages)

AIMelo=KillaDUO
03-18-2010, 03:58 PM
Uncalled for. :pity:

K? Let's all be hella sensitive now...

asandhu23
03-18-2010, 04:07 PM
Give me a rookie who took over a Bucks team that lost a 20pt guy in Jefferson and all-star/Olympian in Redd while actually playing PG (Evans and the Kings winning games came with him playing SG and Udrih at PG with Martin out, and the second he switched back to PG they starting losing left and right) for ROY personally.

Everything Jennings does means more than what Curry, Evans, DC, or Thornton do because it results in wins. He helps his team compete for a playoff spot while the collect ping pong balls and that shouldn't be discredited because he is an actual PG whose only problem is his shooting (Nick Van Exel like percentages)

How about a rookie on a team with easily the worst management, a coach who doesn't give a crap because in 5 games he will have won the most game in NBA, have a ball hog team mate ( stephen jackson ) for the first half of the season and then have 80 percent of his team injured and takes the roll of the point guard for this team with a coach who loves to bench rookies?

oh and dont blame curry for the team's troubles. we've had too many goddamn injuries.

billy17
03-18-2010, 04:20 PM
Give me a rookie who took over a Bucks team that lost a 20pt guy in Jefferson and all-star/Olympian in Redd while actually playing PG (Evans and the Kings winning games came with him playing SG and Udrih at PG with Martin out, and the second he switched back to PG they starting losing left and right) for ROY personally.

Everything Jennings does means more than what Curry, Evans, DC, or Thornton do because it results in wins. He helps his team compete for a playoff spot while the collect ping pong balls and that shouldn't be discredited because he is an actual PG whose only problem is his shooting (Nick Van Exel like percentages)

Its an individual award. Tyreke Evans is the most talented, poised and physically gifted (not athletic, physically gifted..) rookie player this year. Hes got the stats and the achievements to back it up.

I dont care if Tyreke plays C, give him the ball anywhere on the court and he creates. And you apparently either dont watch Kings games or dont really pay attention to them. Cause their losses had nothing to do with whether Beno or Tyreke played point, but defense and TOs. And I wanna see Jennings guard the range of players Tyreke does.

jmtapia
03-18-2010, 04:24 PM
Give me a rookie who took over a Bucks team that lost a 20pt guy in Jefferson and all-star/Olympian in Redd while actually playing PG (Evans and the Kings winning games came with him playing SG and Udrih at PG with Martin out, and the second he switched back to PG they starting losing left and right) for ROY personally.

Everything Jennings does means more than what Curry, Evans, DC, or Thornton do because it results in wins. He helps his team compete for a playoff spot while the collect ping pong balls and that shouldn't be discredited because he is an actual PG whose only problem is his shooting (Nick Van Exel like percentages)

1. Rookies dont determine where they are drafted.
2. If Evans was on the Bucks squad the Bucks would be one hell of a force in the East.
3. Who cares if Evans isnt a prototype PG... get over it already.
4. Kings were already in a tough losing streak even before Martin came back.
I think it has a lot more to do with the Kings having a squad that usually fields rookies, 2nd and 3rd years.... and much less to what position Evans plays.
5. dude quit being a hater.
6. and quit being a Homer... Evans>>> Jennings in 2010. The two players in ROY race are Evans and Curry... Like others mentioned in another thread... the award is called Rookie of the Year for a reason so quit trying to turn this into an MVP type of award for rookies.

ko8e24
03-18-2010, 04:24 PM
K? Let's all be hella sensitive now...

Bro, it's really time to get rid of that username. It no longer applies.

J-Relo
03-18-2010, 04:45 PM
He'll become a leader with time he is only 20

he might, but the soon he will the better he'll be

BigEric
03-18-2010, 05:07 PM
Whoever said Evans racks up personal stats, doesn't know what he's talking about, clearly. If you're going to scoreboard watch and then come to that conclusion, don't talk. Jennings is a fine player, but he's no Evans.

With that being said, Evans will have more of a leadership role once he is completely comfortable with the team, and has a few more years under his belt.

n83417
03-18-2010, 05:15 PM
Bro, it's really time to get rid of that username. It no longer applies.

It never really applied

kblo247
03-18-2010, 06:05 PM
1. Rookies dont determine where they are drafted.
2. If Evans was on the Bucks squad the Bucks would be one hell of a force in the East.
3. Who cares if Evans isnt a prototype PG... get over it already.
4. Kings were already in a tough losing streak even before Martin came back.
I think it has a lot more to do with the Kings having a squad that usually fields rookies, 2nd and 3rd years.... and much less to what position Evans plays.
5. dude quit being a hater.
6. and quit being a Homer... Evans>>> Jennings in 2010. The two players in ROY race are Evans and Curry... Like others mentioned in another thread... the award is called Rookie of the Year for a reason so quit trying to turn this into an MVP type of award for rookies.

1. No **** Sherlock

2. They would be worse since Evans plays with the ball much more and much like Redd and RJ would eat Bogut's touches

3. You care because winning is important and why you play the game. The fact is the team sucks *** with him as their primary point guard and that shouldn't be overlooked because it doesn't fit the but Evans is better than Jennings criteria.

4. Evan lacks a jumpshot (Jennings has trouble finishing) and while he is a pretty good passer he isn't nearly as well at running the team as he is at scoring and slashing. Those players all didn't magically become better when he switched to SG and then worse when he went to PG. He just isn't meant to work that position while winning games

5. What is hating about saying Jennings does more to help a team win that was predicted to do far worse and loss more talent than what Evans works with? The only gripe you can have is the conference because all in all Jennings has been the second best player on his team that is fighting for the 5th seed.

6. It is only between two guys, well then what are the press waiting for? Fact is that Curry started out slow and got better while collecting losses on a team with injuries that plays at a pace to boost stats. Fact is that Evans has the best numbers of the rookies but he damn sure doesn't help his team win games. Fact is that Jennings is the best play maker of the 3, his scoring while behind them isn't that far behind them, and he helps his team win so he shouldn't be dismissed by the simple fact that the two losers who score more while not doing what you ultimately play the game for is idiotic.

IRUAM #21
03-18-2010, 06:07 PM
Bro, it's really time to get rid of that username. It no longer applies.

:facepalm:

DerekRE_3
03-18-2010, 06:16 PM
1. No **** Sherlock

2. They would be worse since Evans plays with the ball much more and much like Redd and RJ would eat Bogut's touches

3. You care because winning is important and why you play the game. The fact is the team sucks *** with him as their primary point guard and that shouldn't be overlooked because it doesn't fit the but Evans is better than Jennings criteria.

4. Evan lacks a jumpshot (Jennings has trouble finishing) and while he is a pretty good passer he isn't nearly as well at running the team as he is at scoring and slashing. Those players all didn't magically become better when he switched to SG and then worse when he went to PG. He just isn't meant to work that position while winning games

5. What is hating about saying Jennings does more to help a team win that was predicted to do far worse and loss more talent than what Evans works with? The only gripe you can have is the conference because all in all Jennings has been the second best player on his team that is fighting for the 5th seed.

6. It is only between two guys, well then what are the press waiting for? Fact is that Curry started out slow and got better while collecting losses on a team with injuries that plays at a pace to boost stats. Fact is that Evans has the best numbers of the rookies but he damn sure doesn't help his team win games. Fact is that Jennings is the best play maker of the 3, his scoring while behind them isn't that far behind them, and he helps his team win so he shouldn't be dismissed by the simple fact that the two losers who score more while not doing what you ultimately play the game for is idiotic.

Why shoot a jumper when you can get right to the rim? Evans leads the league in attempts and makes at the rim (that includes all big men as well). Not only that, most of his attempts and makes aren't assisted, which means he's doing it mostly by himself. Not to mention teams know he's going to drive every time...but it just doesn't matter. He still gets to the rim, and he still finishes and scores at an efficient rate. If Evans had teammates that would actually finish the plays he sets up for them with his drives, he'd be averaging 7 or 8 assists a night.

kArSoN RyDaH
03-18-2010, 06:35 PM
great advice and compliments from ron. kobe and artest have been generous with these compliments for these young guys lol. but yea tyreke will become a vocal leader over this offseason. usually its hard for rookies because they havent accomplished or proved anything to become instant leaders but after this year he definately has some weight to throw around and should become a leader because of what he has done.

billy17
03-18-2010, 09:47 PM
It is only between two guys, well then what are the press waiting for? Fact is that Curry started out slow and got better while collecting losses on a team with injuries that plays at a pace to boost stats. Fact is that Evans has the best numbers of the rookies but he damn sure doesn't help his team win games. Fact is that Jennings is the best play maker of the 3, his scoring while behind them isn't that far behind them, and he helps his team win so he shouldn't be dismissed by the simple fact that the two losers who score more while not doing what you ultimately play the game for is idiotic.

Youve GOT to be kidding.. You have to.

Fact is that you sound idiotic. You obviously never watch the Kings. Ive said nothing negative about Jennings cause I think hes great, but Tyreke is already a star. For you to downplay any part of his game is just crazy.

And if Tyreke doesnt help his team win howd the Kings beat the Bucks?

masalex1205
03-18-2010, 10:22 PM
Give me a rookie who took over a Bucks team that lost a 20pt guy in Jefferson and all-star/Olympian in Redd while actually playing PG (Evans and the Kings winning games came with him playing SG and Udrih at PG with Martin out, and the second he switched back to PG they starting losing left and right) for ROY personally.

Everything Jennings does means more than what Curry, Evans, DC, or Thornton do because it results in wins. He helps his team compete for a playoff spot while the collect ping pong balls and that shouldn't be discredited because he is an actual PG whose only problem is his shooting (Nick Van Exel like percentages)

First of all, you're really overestimating Jefferson and Michael Redd. Yeah Redd was an All-Star...one time...in 2004. Watch the Spurs, Jefferson really isn't that good. John Salmons has been playing great for the Bucks and Bogut has emerged. They've got a solid little team, it isn't like a Chris Paul situation where he's surrounded by a bunch of scrubs.

I'm not taking away anything from Jennings, he's a great young prospect. But Tyreke Evans is a MAN. He can take it to the rim at will against anybody and has the build of an huge NFL safety or even linebacker.

He's on a young team, but you can't expect him to turn it around by himself. One person can't do everything. See Kobe circa 2005. But suggesting that Evans doesn't improve his team as much as Jennings does is ridiculous.

AI4MVP
03-18-2010, 10:41 PM
i just want everyone to know that im not hating on anyone. i think tehre all phenominal players, and its all so hard for me to decide whos the best out of them

-tyreke is a physical freak. his size allows him to be a triple double threat night in and night out, and hes a nightmare to guard, and a nightmare to be guarded against

-steph curry is an absolute wizard with the basketball. i havent seen something like him since steve nash. his passing is amazing, his shot is great. he has so many razzle dazzle moves. hes an absolute magician.

-with brandon jennings, he has the best attitude out of all of them. he has a complete winnners mentality, im not comparing him to kobe, but they have the same "assasin" mode. hes an amazing passer and playmaker, and a great leader. vocally and with his play, and has ridiculous composer for a kid his age. you got to love the kids swag too. the thing that just bugs me is that i know hes a better shooter then his percentages show. as he gains experience and more bball iq, his percentages will cry rocket. weve seen what shooting displays hes capable of. his shot is not bad. its just frusterating that people on PSD dont realize that. when jennings "gets it" more, hell be able to take over games with the best of them in the nba becuz of his attitude and amazing skill.

thats why its so hard for me to say which player i think is the best out of all of them. i look at evans and say "wow this guy is a beast" but then i look at curry and i say "wow i havent seen skill like this in a long time" and then i see jennings and say "wow. this kid has greatness written all over him"


im not a dumbass. i know evans and curry are having better rookie seasons and jennings has no business getting that award, but when im comparing these players im looking at the big picture. and the big picture is that i think these three players, evans curry and jennings, will be battling eachother for years to come, and its gunna be damn fun to watch

ko8e24
03-18-2010, 11:28 PM
dang, this just proves that the original big man is dying, and soon, in 10-15 yrs, the tallest center in the league is gonna be 6'4, because the nba will be a pg dominated league, lol

wileyisTOFU
03-18-2010, 11:34 PM
Evans just needs to become a beast on D, the leadership will come with experience, or it wont come at all.

Raph12
03-19-2010, 01:49 AM
That was good advice, the thread title is misleading.

GSW Hoops
03-19-2010, 02:35 AM
1. No **** Sherlock

2. They would be worse since Evans plays with the ball much more and much like Redd and RJ would eat Bogut's touches

3. You care because winning is important and why you play the game. The fact is the team sucks *** with him as their primary point guard and that shouldn't be overlooked because it doesn't fit the but Evans is better than Jennings criteria.

4. Evan lacks a jumpshot (Jennings has trouble finishing) and while he is a pretty good passer he isn't nearly as well at running the team as he is at scoring and slashing. Those players all didn't magically become better when he switched to SG and then worse when he went to PG. He just isn't meant to work that position while winning games

5. What is hating about saying Jennings does more to help a team win that was predicted to do far worse and loss more talent than what Evans works with? The only gripe you can have is the conference because all in all Jennings has been the second best player on his team that is fighting for the 5th seed.

6. It is only between two guys, well then what are the press waiting for? Fact is that Curry started out slow and got better while collecting losses on a team with injuries that plays at a pace to boost stats. Fact is that Evans has the best numbers of the rookies but he damn sure doesn't help his team win games. Fact is that Jennings is the best play maker of the 3, his scoring while behind them isn't that far behind them, and he helps his team win so he shouldn't be dismissed by the simple fact that the two losers who score more while not doing what you ultimately play the game for is idiotic.

Hard to say Evans doesn't help his team win games when they've already got more wins than they had ALL of last season, and with 15 or so games to go. Those wins include this one, where he hit the game-winner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2AbVDPywzk

Oh yeah, did I mention it's AGAINST MILWAUKEE? :clap: And I don't think Jennings was even in the game for this play. He had his usual seat when the game's on the line, ON THE BENCH.

GSW Hoops
03-19-2010, 02:40 AM
1. No **** Sherlock

2. They would be worse since Evans plays with the ball much more and much like Redd and RJ would eat Bogut's touches

3. You care because winning is important and why you play the game. The fact is the team sucks *** with him as their primary point guard and that shouldn't be overlooked because it doesn't fit the but Evans is better than Jennings criteria.

4. Evan lacks a jumpshot (Jennings has trouble finishing) and while he is a pretty good passer he isn't nearly as well at running the team as he is at scoring and slashing. Those players all didn't magically become better when he switched to SG and then worse when he went to PG. He just isn't meant to work that position while winning games

5. What is hating about saying Jennings does more to help a team win that was predicted to do far worse and loss more talent than what Evans works with? The only gripe you can have is the conference because all in all Jennings has been the second best player on his team that is fighting for the 5th seed.

6. It is only between two guys, well then what are the press waiting for? Fact is that Curry started out slow and got better while collecting losses on a team with injuries that plays at a pace to boost stats. Fact is that Evans has the best numbers of the rookies but he damn sure doesn't help his team win games. Fact is that Jennings is the best play maker of the 3, his scoring while behind them isn't that far behind them, and he helps his team win so he shouldn't be dismissed by the simple fact that the two losers who score more while not doing what you ultimately play the game for is idiotic.

Tyreke doesn't help his team win games? That makes sense--unless you actually watch basketball games, that is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N29fcM4qdiM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogFKq-prlqM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD1IX13EiWY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2AbVDPywzk
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

jmtapia
03-19-2010, 02:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jco0RtxyA8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv5gkIvVn3w&feature=fvsr

ryder78c
03-19-2010, 03:43 AM
Jennings rookie of the year..... Ko8e24 IT WAS UNCALLED FOR BUT FUNNY *****....REKE IS GOOD ON A ***** TEAM

jmtapia
03-19-2010, 04:00 AM
Jennings rookie of the year..... Ko8e24 IT WAS UNCALLED FOR BUT FUNNY *****....REKE IS GOOD ON A ***** TEAM

:offtopic:

PrestigeWldWde
03-19-2010, 05:19 AM
maybe if Evans was a true point guard, this wouldn't be a problem.

x2

PrestigeWldWde
03-19-2010, 05:21 AM
:offtopic:

I'm glad it took someone with over 10,000 posts to figure that one out...like it wasn't obvious enough. :shrug:

PrestigeWldWde
03-19-2010, 05:27 AM
Whoever said Evans racks up personal stats, doesn't know what he's talking about, clearly. If you're going to scoreboard watch and then come to that conclusion, don't talk. Jennings is a fine player, but he's no Evans.

With that being said, Evans will have more of a leadership role once he is completely comfortable with the team, and has a few more years under his belt.

No wonder why you have a pic of Evans as your sig. How can you say Jennings is a fine player, but say he's no Evans? When did it start that a rookie year make someone's whole career? I'm guessing you just haven't watch Jennings enough. I have the league pass and catch enough games to know about both players. Jennings just isn't as physical as Evans and Evans can make more tough baskets around the rim, but Jennings has great ball handling and a killer lefty floater. And with 3/4 of the games played already, how much longer does it take for Evans to be completely comfortable with the team???

heathonater
03-19-2010, 06:03 AM
im sure tyreke will develop those leadership skills as he gains more experience. he has a lot of talent and i really dont see anything holding him back from being a great player. artest gave good advice because great players always communicate to their teammates.

Kyle916
03-19-2010, 06:33 AM
I actually agree with Artest for once.

That being said, Evans is 20... the leadership will come with time.

GSW Hoops
03-19-2010, 09:53 AM
No wonder why you have a pic of Evans as your sig. How can you say Jennings is a fine player, but say he's no Evans? When did it start that a rookie year make someone's whole career? I'm guessing you just haven't watch Jennings enough. I have the league pass and catch enough games to know about both players. Jennings just isn't as physical as Evans and Evans can make more tough baskets around the rim, but Jennings has great ball handling and a killer lefty floater. And with 3/4 of the games played already, how much longer does it take for Evans to be completely comfortable with the team???

The kid is 20 years old. He's been in the NBA for about 8 months. Leaders aren't made overnight. Give the kid a little time.

RadiantShot
03-19-2010, 09:56 AM
Anyone who even thinks that Jennings is better than Reke, must obviously not know what in the HELL they are talking about.

GSW Hoops
03-19-2010, 10:02 AM
Anyone who even thinks that Jennings is better than Reke, must obviously not know what in the HELL they are talking about.

Yeah. You'd be surprised how many people on PSD don't actually watch basketball games that aren't on TNT.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
03-19-2010, 11:24 AM
Bro, it's really time to get rid of that username. It no longer applies.

Yeah, maybe... Maybe, I'll get rid of it. Or I can just leave it to piss you off :shrug:

asandhu23
03-19-2010, 11:29 AM
Yeah. You'd be surprised how many people on PSD don't actually watch basketball games that aren't on TNT.

or ESPN

AIMelo=KillaDUO
03-19-2010, 02:51 PM
I don't think I would be able to keep my sanity if it wasn't for NBA League Pass...

RadiantShot
03-19-2010, 03:33 PM
I mean, it's not hard to see.
Even watching only a few games from Reke, I can tell he's a better player than Jennings.
It's not complicated.

I'd also take into consideration Curry over Jennings. Reke and Curry are killing it this year. Jennings is good, but he's overrated already.

jmtapia
03-19-2010, 05:18 PM
No wonder why you have a pic of Evans as your sig. How can you say Jennings is a fine player, but say he's no Evans? When did it start that a rookie year make someone's whole career? I'm guessing you just haven't watch Jennings enough. I have the league pass and catch enough games to know about both players. Jennings just isn't as physical as Evans and Evans can make more tough baskets around the rim, but Jennings has great ball handling and a killer lefty floater. And with 3/4 of the games played already, how much longer does it take for Evans to be completely comfortable with the team???


No wonder why you have a pic of Evans as your sig. How can you say Jennings is a fine player, but say he's no Evans? When did it start that a rookie year make someone's whole career? I'm guessing you just haven't watch Jennings enough. I have the league pass and catch enough games to know about both players. Jennings just isn't as physical as Evans and Evans can make more tough baskets around the rim, but Jennings has great ball handling and a killer lefty floater. And with 3/4 of the games played already, how much longer does it take for Evans to be completely comfortable with the team???

ok? Evans has great ball handling skills for his size and strength. Its not just about getting comfortable on the court but also with all the distractions that a young star like Evans has around him. He needs to work on his jumper and he will be the first to tell you that.

People seem to forget that Evans is still going to get better and has actually gotten better as the season has moved along. Kings desperately needed a legit inside presence and Landry has provided that. Francisco Garcia has provided a very solid outside shot. Garcia came back from injury on the 17th of Feb and Landry's first game with the Kings was Feb 20th...since then Evans has posted 20.8/6.0/6.8 in 15 games.

Kings have a very young squad and no doubt have lots of work to do but there is no doubt that Evans makes this team much better. The kings have been competitive despite having a couple really tough stretches vs over .500 teams in late Jan and Feb.

Point Differential Split
2009 -9.0 pts/g
2010 -4.0 pts/g

AI4MVP
03-19-2010, 05:35 PM
i dont get how people say jennings is overrated when pretty much every single person on PSD says he sucks and he doesnt even get any respect from ESPN anymore? how is he overrated at all?

billy17
03-19-2010, 07:52 PM
ok? Evans has great ball handling skills for his size and strength. Its not just about getting comfortable on the court but also with all the distractions that a young star like Evans has around him. He needs to work on his jumper and he will be the first to tell you that.

People seem to forget that Evans is still going to get better and has actually gotten better as the season has moved along. Kings desperately needed a legit inside presence and Landry has provided that. Francisco Garcia has provided a very solid outside shot. Garcia came back from injury on the 17th of Feb and Landry's first game with the Kings was Feb 20th...since then Evans has posted 20.8/6.0/6.8 in 15 games.

Kings have a very young squad and no doubt have lots of work to do but there is no doubt that Evans makes this team much better. The kings have been competitive despite having a couple really tough stretches vs over .500 teams in late Jan and Feb.

Point Differential Split
2009 -9.0 pts/g
2010 -4.0 pts/g

BAM!!


i dont get how people say jennings is overrated when pretty much every single person on PSD says he sucks and he doesnt even get any respect from ESPN anymore? how is he overrated at all?

If theres any number of people out there who honestly believe Jennings should get it over Tyreke, then Jennings is overrated. Cause it would be a straight insult for Tyreke not to win the award after the season hes had/having.

tredigs
03-19-2010, 09:33 PM
Evans vs. Jennings in half an hour. I'll be watching this one.

PrestigeWldWde
03-20-2010, 04:51 AM
BAM!!



If theres any number of people out there who honestly believe Jennings should get it over Tyreke, then Jennings is overrated. Cause it would be a straight insult for Tyreke not to win the award after the season hes had/having.

How about your anointed ROY Evans and his 15 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists in 4 quarters of basketball tonight against Milwaukee? Looks like this one goes to Jennings. Please WATCH the GAMES, not SPORTSCENTER and some of you might realize what the hell is going on in the NBA.

Oh yeah, nice Kings logo lol...BOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

PrestigeWldWde
03-20-2010, 04:54 AM
i dont get how people say jennings is overrated when pretty much every single person on PSD says he sucks and he doesnt even get any respect from ESPN anymore? how is he overrated at all?

Lol...maybe some of these so called "NBA know it alls" here on this site are a little unhappy over Jennings choosing to play overseas for a year??? Maybe they didn't like his Gumby hairstyle earlier in the year??? Maybe he reminds them of the little skinny kid who crossed them over on the court in high school??? I don't know what they are thinking really.:D

jmtapia
03-20-2010, 05:27 AM
How about your anointed ROY Evans and his 15 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists in 4 quarters of basketball tonight against Milwaukee? Looks like this one goes to Jennings. Please WATCH the GAMES, not SPORTSCENTER and some of you might realize what the hell is going on in the NBA.

Oh yeah, nice Kings logo lol...BOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

Its funny when 15/4/4 for a 20 year old is considered a bad game. he just couldnt figure out how to attack Salmons... He was able to get to the line when he the Kings got out in transition and he didnt even finish the game...

its obvious that Jennings had a huge game he came ready to play.

RadiantShot
03-20-2010, 12:19 PM
How about your anointed ROY Evans and his 15 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists in 4 quarters of basketball tonight against Milwaukee? Looks like this one goes to Jennings. Please WATCH the GAMES, not SPORTSCENTER and some of you might realize what the hell is going on in the NBA.

Oh yeah, nice Kings logo lol...BOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

Funny how you can base a player's performance off of one bad-game.
Get with the program buddy.

Had the stats been switched, you'd be the last person in the forum to post a reply on this thread, now isn't that right?

Stats from one bad game isn't going to put Tyreke below Brandon...Tyreke's been doing better in every aspect besides 3-point shooting all season, over Jennings.

Look at Tyreke's supporting cast, and tell me what in the hell he has to work with. Beno? 2nd string point-guard status. Casspi? Shows up once in a while. Carl Landry? His best option on the team. He was a 6th man on the Rockets....

Put Tyreke and Bogut on the same team, and they go farther than Jennings and the Bucks, case closed. If you can't see that, you're oblivious to everything.

billy17
03-20-2010, 12:54 PM
How about your anointed ROY Evans and his 15 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists in 4 quarters of basketball tonight against Milwaukee? Looks like this one goes to Jennings. Please WATCH the GAMES, not SPORTSCENTER and some of you might realize what the hell is going on in the NBA.

Oh yeah, nice Kings logo lol...BOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

How bout my bum ***** Kings taking your star-studded Bucks to two OTs. Without Tyreke. You know that was our game, until Jennings dragged his foot across the whole key.

Considering I DO WATCH the games, Im still pretty happy about Tyreke dropping a game-winner on you guys.

Jennings vs Tyreke aside. I like the way the Bucks look, they have some real nice pieces. Ive always loved Salmons, Bogut is obvious, bench is legit, and I think BJennings is a perfect fit.

Miltown34
03-20-2010, 01:09 PM
Brandon Jennings sucks. He's a wanna be punk. Bogut is leading that team to the playoffs. Not Jennings. As Jennings got worse, Bogut got signifigantly better, as did the Bucks. Jennings is terrible.

bro, I know his comment was over the top, but Jennings is not no wanna be the kid is tough dude biological father commented suicide so , he just got a chip on his shoulder and talks 2 pump his self up

Miltown34
03-20-2010, 01:13 PM
I'm tired of this BJ and Tyreke stuff man, I'm a Bucks fan but I'm not going to disrespect Reke cus he is a bad man, Jennings will be an elite PG in time, there good players. why do people have 2 talk stuff about other people's player for no reason these dude is 20 years old as long as they are playing good who cares, yes Reke-Havoc(his real nickname) needs work and Bj too, so do almost all the players in history have weaknesses. Who cares there ahead of many players that are all-stars when they were there age.

GSW Hoops
03-20-2010, 01:55 PM
I'm tired of this BJ and Tyreke stuff man, I'm a Bucks fan but I'm not going to disrespect Reke cus he is a bad man, Jennings will be an elite PG in time, there good players. why do people have 2 talk stuff about other people's player for no reason these dude is 20 years old as long as they are playing good who cares, yes Reke-Havoc(his real nickname) needs work and Bj too, so do almost all the players in history have weaknesses. Who cares there ahead of many players that are all-stars when they were there age.

Good point. They're both really good players, but Tyreke happens to be better right now. Let's just enjoy the game of basketball :)

Miltown34
03-20-2010, 02:22 PM
Good point. They're both really good players, but Tyreke happens to be better right now. Let's just enjoy the game of basketball :)

I agree he is, I think BJ will close the gap as he gets stronger and gets some more experience.... I could see someone making legit arguments, but fans attack other players just to talk stuff. People don't realize the more picky you get the stupid it makes people sound. You can't tlk about how Tyreke is nothing because he's putting up 20 5 and 5 as a rookie when he could still be a sophmore. You can't hate on BJ cus he is only 169 and he is taking games over at age 20 also. I mean if we diss these players, what do you think about J. Wall and Evan Turner there in college and when they get to the league and struggle but still put up good numbers you gonna diss a rookie who is a big reason why the team keeps winnings, sounds funny to me lol

billy17
03-20-2010, 03:14 PM
I agree he is, I think BJ will close the gap as he gets stronger and gets some more experience.... I could see someone making legit arguments, but fans attack other players just to talk stuff. People don't realize the more picky you get the stupid it makes people sound. You can't tlk about how Tyreke is nothing because he's putting up 20 5 and 5 as a rookie when he could still be a sophmore. You can't hate on BJ cus he is only 169 and he is taking games over at age 20 also. I mean if we diss these players, what do you think about J. Wall and Evan Turner there in college and when they get to the league and struggle but still put up good numbers you gonna diss a rookie who is a big reason why the team keeps winnings, sounds funny to me lol

Seems to me the argument is who deserves an award, we all know theyre good.

You cant go onto a forum and tell people not to talk in an opinionated fashion.

AI4MVP
03-20-2010, 03:26 PM
Good point. They're both really good players, but Tyreke happens to be better right now. Let's just enjoy the game of basketball :)

THANK U!! this is what i was tryng to say all along

RadiantShot
03-20-2010, 03:47 PM
I'm tired of this BJ and Tyreke stuff man, I'm a Bucks fan but I'm not going to disrespect Reke cus he is a bad man, Jennings will be an elite PG in time, there good players. why do people have 2 talk stuff about other people's player for no reason these dude is 20 years old as long as they are playing good who cares, yes Reke-Havoc(his real nickname) needs work and Bj too, so do almost all the players in history have weaknesses. Who cares there ahead of many players that are all-stars when they were there age.

I don't think Jennings will be elite..But let's just see how it goes.
They're good rookie guards that can score, and help their team. That's what we should focus on.

I still believe Reke has the whole package, but I'm not taking away from Brandon. They both have different skill-sets. Some things Jennings does better, some things Reke does better.

Jack of Blades
03-20-2010, 03:52 PM
Ya Tyreke Evans is very much unlike Brandon Jennings; a guy who is very vocal and leading his team to the playoffs. He makes everyone around him so much better. Evans just racks up all the personal stats.

:facepalm:

Miltown34
03-20-2010, 04:14 PM
Seems to me the argument is who deserves an award, we all know theyre good.

You cant go onto a forum and tell people not to talk in an opinionated fashion.

Your not understanding what i'm saying, I mean when people say someone sucks because somebody doesn't like there, guy or dissing a guy and no real facts to back it up....That's like say I was a Hornets fan and I like CP3 and someone said Dwill was better because of this and that and I say Deron sucks cause he can't get past people like CP3. That doesn't mean someone sucks that means they have a different game. I'm just saying people throw out personal biases than just look at a persons game and judge him by facts without making false claims. Also some people said BJ sucked and will only be a serviceable PG, so some people don't think the same as you sir

Miltown34
03-20-2010, 04:18 PM
I don't think Jennings will be elite..But let's just see how it goes.
They're good rookie guards that can score, and help their team. That's what we should focus on.

I still believe Reke has the whole package, but I'm not taking away from Brandon. They both have different skill-sets. Some things Jennings does better, some things Reke does better.

When I said elite I don't mean top 10 players which Tyreke will be. Top 5 you can't really tell until someone gets there. I mean like an annual all-star like top 15-20 players of the game top 5-6 PG's.

PBG
03-20-2010, 05:17 PM
since when was dying your hair and shaving ignorant **** in your head taking on a mans role anyways? whos he to talk about being a man?

billy17
03-20-2010, 06:00 PM
Your not understanding what i'm saying, I mean when people say someone sucks because somebody doesn't like there, guy or dissing a guy and no real facts to back it up....That's like say I was a Hornets fan and I like CP3 and someone said Dwill was better because of this and that and I say Deron sucks cause he can't get past people like CP3. That doesn't mean someone sucks that means they have a different game. I'm just saying people throw out personal biases than just look at a persons game and judge him by facts without making false claims. Also some people said BJ sucked and will only be a serviceable PG, so some people don't think the same as you sir

Not gonna lie to you, it is a tad difficult to follow this grammar. So maybe Im not fully understanding you..

But youre just rambling man. I dont even remember anyone saying someone sucked, and if they did they were surely being sarcastic.

With that said, thank you for your insight :facepalm:

Miltown34
03-20-2010, 06:19 PM
Not gonna lie to you, it is a tad difficult to follow this grammar. So maybe Im not fully understanding you..

But youre just rambling man. I dont even remember anyone saying someone sucked, and if they did they were surely being sarcastic.

With that said, thank you for your insight :facepalm:

I didn't feel like breaking it all down, people have said it so i don't need a face palm.

billy17
03-20-2010, 06:26 PM
I didn't feel like breaking it all down, people have said it so i don't need a face palm.

Face palm was for you just goin on and on with some weird analogy that wasnt really relevant..

But Im done with you and this thread, its not even about Rons comments anymore

PrestigeWldWde
03-20-2010, 07:25 PM
How bout my bum ***** Kings taking your star-studded Bucks to two OTs. Without Tyreke. You know that was our game, until Jennings dragged his foot across the whole key.

Considering I DO WATCH the games, Im still pretty happy about Tyreke dropping a game-winner on you guys.

Jennings vs Tyreke aside. I like the way the Bucks look, they have some real nice pieces. Ive always loved Salmons, Bogut is obvious, bench is legit, and I think BJennings is a perfect fit.

Where did I say, in any thread, that I was a BUCKS fan??? Please, don't assume...you are mostly just making an *** out of U but not ME. Try again.

PrestigeWldWde
03-20-2010, 07:28 PM
Face palm was for you just goin on and on with some weird analogy that wasnt really relevant..

But Im done with you and this thread, its not even about Rons comments anymore

Now she's done???:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::fa cepalm:

PrestigeWldWde
03-20-2010, 07:31 PM
:facepalm:

This is what your facepalm deserves...:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

PrestigeWldWde
03-21-2010, 01:10 AM
Face palm was for you just goin on and on with some weird analogy that wasnt really relevant..

But Im done with you and this thread, its not even about Rons comments anymore

To be grammatically correct, it would be Ron's, not Rons. Please say it was a typo. :D

PrestigeWldWde
03-21-2010, 02:18 AM
The bottom line is it's like picking between apples and oranges. Jennings and Evans are both very good players and still have a lot to learn to become elite. While I prefer Jennings, I know it's not wrong to pick either. I also like Salmons as a player and was kind of mad when the Bulls traded him, but I know it was with an eye towards the 2010 free agent class. Salmons has allowed Jennings to breathe a little more since they traded for him. He can hit shots and handle the ball on occasion. I know Evans has little to work with, but from what I've seen from Casspi, he looks like he could be a legit player. I don't know what it is, but I like Jennings as a player a little more than Evans right now. Just my opinion. :-)