PDA

View Full Version : Pros and Cons: Why Your Team Can or Cannot Win A Championship



ko8e24
03-18-2010, 02:25 AM
What are the pros and cons in terms of reasons why or why not your favorite team can/can't win a championship.


Los Angeles Lakers

Pros:

1) Defending Champions, experience from the last 2 NBA Finals.
2) Their Starting Backcourt has championship experience, each guy with 4 rings.
3) Phil Jackson, greatest coach in NBA history, record 10 nba titles and has coached in 12 nba finals.
4) Lamar Odom's versatility and X-factor-like play off the bench
5) The length of the Lakers with Gasol, Bynum, and Odom.
6) Ron Artest's ability to shut down top scorer on opposing team.
7) Kobe Bryant, the most clutch player in the game today and THE BEST CLOSER.
8) The triangle offense, an offense that gets everybody involved, and each man on the court is given a sense of responsibility and accountability, so that the offense is not predictable for the defense. The system has led to 10 championships.
9) Phil, Kobe and Derek lost in the 04 & 08 finals, and they will do anything in their power and will so that they make sure each does not add another finals loss to their respective careers. That motivation factor is there.


Cons

1) The aging veteran Derek Fisher has trouble with quick point-guards, and Jordan Farmar does an even worse job defensively off the bench. The Lakers perimeter D letting them down.
2) The Lakers lack of depth and hand injuries all season catch up to them.
3) The Lakers fall into the "soft" mode where they get outrebounded, outhustled, and outmuscled
4) The Lakers rely too much on Kobe and it becomes a one-man show.
5) The Lakers may take a team lightly (like last yr vs Houston), and it might bite them in the butt.

kArSoN RyDaH
03-18-2010, 02:36 AM
i actually like this threadd, it has some potential. lmao. but yeaa

just some pros and cons to add to the list


pros-

1. our defense is top 3 in the league with the addition of ron ron
2. we have not just the best closer but the best player in the game
3. ron wants a ring and will do anything for it

cons-

1. injuries injuries injuries
2. our bench just flat out sucks, someone other than lamar odom has to step it up and produce
3. the team just breaks down mentally and doesnt stay focused on task at hand which is winning a championship (ie. pointing finger *ahem* pau gasol *ahem*) lol

Toenail Clipper
03-18-2010, 02:39 AM
Pros
none

Cons
we are the clippers

kArSoN RyDaH
03-18-2010, 02:40 AM
Pros
none

Cons
we are the clippers

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh::laugh::laugh:

soonabooma
03-18-2010, 03:10 AM
Pros-

1) We have Kevin Durant
2) We have a talented young group in general, it's not just a one man show.
3) Our team chemistry continues to get better becuz our players work hard, they respect each other and their coaches, and they are all on the same page trying to work toward one common goal. It's a "team first" attitude here, nobody is selfish, and that's a damn rare thing around the league these days.
4) We're one of the few teams in the league that actually values good defense, we can score no problem, but it all starts on the defensive end. We're dangerous for the right reason, becuz we're a complete team.
5) We have a tough mentality, we play hard and never back down, we look at every game as being winable, and there's a killer instinct with our guys now, they play to win. We're learning how to be strong in mind.

CONS-

1) We're still so damn young and we still have so much to learn. For all the great things I mentioned above, we still have our share of those little immature games here and there, tonight was a good example. We need to get much more consistent in alot of areas, but that comes with experience. We need to be better about always being prepared to play a full 48 minutes, but again...that comes with experience, and even then, it's hard to be top notch every single night. Youth/inexperience still gets the best of us at times.


So for now, we'll just have to be content with the improvement we're making, which is certainly happening at a much faster rate than anybody thought was possible. We'll have to continue to work and learn from our mistakes. We've still got a little bit of growing pains to fight through, but we're definitely heading in the right direction. There's a lot of good things in place for us to have success in the future, and we have a top notch GM. Presti knows what he's doing, and it clearly shows. We're not there yet, but eventually.....it WILL be our time.

DodgerBulls
03-18-2010, 03:35 AM
Pros
none

Cons
we are the clippers

Your time will come my friend. I used to go to Clippers game despite their lack of ability to win games. Kinda stopped going coz of the damn salesperson who kept calling my phone in private!

J-Relo
03-18-2010, 03:36 AM
SUNS > great offence, bad defence.

ko8e24
03-18-2010, 03:39 AM
SUNS > great offence, bad defence.

Ya, it's so bad, you can't even spell it.

lol jk


But on a serious note, what really are the true pros and cons of this team. I'd be interested to know a list of what you think are the pros and cons for Phoenix.

DodgerBulls
03-18-2010, 03:54 AM
Chicago Bulls

Pros:

Rose can get to the basket and now can shoot mid range Js.
Noah gives us much of the energy.
Taj is learning little by little.

Cons:

Most of the players are young and needs to learn more.
Very inconsistent with shooting.
Needs a legit shooting guard and a power forward.
Idiot Coach.

I really don't see the team getting to ECF until we get the right pieces, including an experience coach.

abe_froman
03-18-2010, 04:18 AM
Chicago Bulls

Pros:

Rose can get to the basket and now can shoot mid range Js.
Noah gives us much of the energy.
Taj is learning little by little.

Cons:

Most of the players are young and needs to learn more.
Very inconsistent with shooting.
Needs a legit shooting guard and a power forward.
Idiot Coach.

I really don't see the team getting to ECF until we get the right pieces, including an experience coach.

add
injuries with 3 main players
no guards other than rose
weak bench

ragee
03-18-2010, 05:05 AM
Pros
none

Cons
we are the clippers

LMFAO! Funniest post of the day! Don't worry about being a Clipper too much though... Your time will come... Gordon and Griffin has the potential to lift you you guys up...

CTown81
03-18-2010, 10:25 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers -

Pros

1) We have Lebron
2) We can match up defensively with just about anyone. Very flexible match up possibilities.
3) We have Lebron
4) Anderson Varejao and everything he brings to a game.
5) I think as a team they want a title more than most other contenders. This cannot be underestimated.
6) Oh ya we have Lebron.

Cons
1) We need Mo Williams to be more consistent. If he is off we struggle a bit.
2) Its Cleveland... sigh... something bad usually happes. Does Lebron finally cancel this out?

Honestly other than Mo Williams streaky play there really is no reason why we should not win a title this year. We have all the pieces. Get it done.

WadeBirdman
03-18-2010, 10:32 AM
Pros:
1. D-Wade
2. When our shooters get hot in a game they help out D-Wade
3. Beasley can contribute
4. D-Wade

Cons:
1. Coaching!!!
2. When shooters go cold they leave D-Wade to do it himself.
3. Sometimes Beasley dissapears
4. Lower seeding

Jetsguy
03-18-2010, 10:47 AM
Knicks

Pro - Salary Cap Space

Con - None of the big 3 will sign with us and no real building blocks outside of Chandler and Gallinari

Edit - how can I forget coaching as a con...D is a bum IMO

asandhu23
03-18-2010, 10:54 AM
Pros:
Warriors can shoot Jesus out of the Bible.
We have team chemistry
Best Fans in NBA; Great team support
Monta Ellis
Stephen Curry
D-League All Stars
Anthony Randolph
Anthony Morrow
We can get on a hot shooting streak easily
Best name in NBA
Larry Ellison wants to buy the team
Best offense minded coach in the history of NBA ( Well deserved Don Nelson :clap: )
One players makes a 3 pointer, every person on the team starts making 3 pointers.
Jessica Alba is a Warriors fan ( see sig )

Cons:
Our owner is Chris Cohan
Our coach is Don Nelson who after 5 wins won't give a ****
Our owner broke up the team that got us the only playoff run in 18 years so he won't have to pay them.
Our owner fired our mascot, Thunder
2 winning seasons in 18 years
Best fans in NBA. Sadly they will always buy tickets and because of that our owner thinks he doesn't need to improve the team.
No Defense
Injuries and Bad Luck

JordansBulls
03-18-2010, 11:00 AM
Chicago Bulls

Pros:

- We have Derrick Rose.
- Noah gives us much of the energy and can alter shots.
- We have the guy that holds down Lebron the best in the NBA in Luol Deng
- We have never lost a series to the Cavs before in the playoffs with or without HCA.
- Great Support at Home Games


Cons:

- Worst coach in the league
- Who have Flip Murray and Jannero Pargo who shoot whenever they touch the ball.
- Need a better SG and PF
- Need to get to the free throw line more often

jim51990
03-18-2010, 11:06 AM
To person who said kobe is the best player your wrong its not even debatable. Closer yes. Player no! But lets not make this another Kobe vs bron thread

Miltown34
03-18-2010, 11:10 AM
Bucks

Pros
a potential playoff upset in the first round lol
Potential injuries, to everyone in the playoffs lol


Cons
2-3 years away from being elite top 3 in the East
cap space-Salmons, Redd, Gadzuric about 31 million dollars (potential trade at deadline)
Bj is a season away from being more than 169.

jim51990
03-18-2010, 11:11 AM
Boston Celtics

Pros
Experience
The best pg besides d will in the playoffs
A team that has played together for along time

Cons
Age
Health
lack of hunger
coach's inability to get threw to the players

Spiderman 1nner
03-18-2010, 11:11 AM
Pros:

1) We have Joe Johnson
2) We have Josh Smith
3) Marvin Williams is playing better
4) Jamal Crawford = 6th man of tha year
5) Josh Smith has taken smarter shots this year and has shot a higher percentage because of it.

Cons:

1) Mike Bibby is on tha decline and hasn't been very efficient
2) Jeff Teague's lack of playing time
3) Undersizedd
4) After Crawford, next to no production off tha bench

jim51990
03-18-2010, 11:13 AM
Boston Celtics

Pros
Experience
The best pg besides d will in the playoffs
Talent across the board
A team that has played together for along time

Cons
Age
Health
lack of hunger
coach's inability to get threw to the players

avrpatsfan
03-18-2010, 11:17 AM
Pros
none

Cons
we are the clippers

:laugh: So true!

JDink24
03-18-2010, 11:18 AM
76ers

Pros:

1) Jrue Holiday
2) Went back to old school logo

Cons:

1)Eddie Jord................. You know what I can’t do this it’s going to take too long. I’m going to run out of numbers and letters and have to revert to symbols and shapes like when you got to many lives in Super Mario Bros for the Nintendo.

td0tsfinest
03-18-2010, 11:18 AM
Pros: Good Offense

Cons: Horrible Defense.

deuces
03-18-2010, 11:24 AM
Raptors

Pros
-chris bosh can take almost any power forward in the league
-Bargnani creates matchup problems
-jarret jack and jose calderone can each shoot the 3
-we can score with any team in the league
-our bench can give us a spark

Cons
-hedo isn't really preforming, also isn't consistant
-defense
-inability by our 7 footer to grab a rebound
-chris holds up our offense, stops ball movement
-chris sometimes doesn't show up to big games
-defense
-our rookie coach still makes mistakes in terms of rotations
-we are not tough enough to hang with the elite
-3rd quarters seem to destroy any momentum
-defense

wolf3742
03-18-2010, 11:47 AM
Hornets:

Pros:
1. CP3, nough said
2. 2009 Rookies are great

Cons:
1. No legit Bigman
2. Magnet for bad contracts (Peja, Mo Pete, Posey, Okafor)
3. Needs a better coaching
4. Injuries, injuries, injuriess