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BlondeBomber41
03-01-2010, 01:03 PM
This season we did a mock trade deadline in which users on this site took over as GM's of every team in the NBA. The goal was to improve your team the most before the real life trade deadline. The users then voted on playoff seedings of the other conference, and now its up to you to vote for who wins each matchup.

Please remember that this is just a game and there is no reason to vote for a team just because thats actually your favorite team in real life. Everybody worked really hard on their teams and it's only fair that you judge each team based on that teams talent, not that teams name.

At the bottom each team has sent in a write up explaining why they feel they would win the series. Please read each writeup before you make your decision, to be fair to the GM's who wrote it.

Boston has the homecourt advantage due to being the higher seed.


Boston Celtics Lineup:

Derrick Rose/Brevin Knight
JR Smith/Chase Budinger
Thabo Sefolosha/Peja Stojakovic/Rodney Carney
Al Jefferson/Jason Smith/Brian Scalabrine/Sean Marks
Dwight Howard/Kwame Brown/Desagna Diop


Cleveland Cavaliers Lineup:


C - Andrew Bogut / Nenad Krstic / Serge Ibaka
PF - David West / Leon Powe / Matt Bonner
SF - Ron Artest / Trevor Ariza / Jarvis Hayes
SG - Monta Ellis / Marco Belinelli / Keith Bogans
PG - Jason Kidd / Nate Robinson / Monta Ellis




Boston Celtics Writeup:
Boston Celtics vs. Cleveland Cavaliers
-Boston has homecourt-

Quick Review: Looking at this Cleveland team it’s really obvious they’re talented, however I don’t see one player that could possibly be a #1 option on a contender. Also their backcourt is horrible defensively and seeing Boston’s frontcourt clearly dominates theirs, Boston will have no troubles scoring whatsoever. We think we match up perfectly as the one position the cavs have some defensive presence isn’t one of importance for us. Our main players are at the pg, pf and C and none of these won’t be able to be stopped.

The Matchups:

Derrick Rose vs. Jason Kidd
We love this matchup. This will be a straight nightmare for Kidd. Due to his age he won’t be able to keep up with Rose’s speed and athleticism the slightest bit. Rose will be able to drive at will against him scoring 20 every given night easily and setting up others. On the other side Rose will make Kidd work his *** off every offense and break him down with no energy left to the bench.
Boston wins this one big time.

JR Smith vs. Monta Ellis
At this position at times we will choose to put our defensive specialist Thabo Sefolosha on Ellis to somewhat limit his scoring. He’s a great scorer that can’t be denied, but he with this team it’s unclear he’ll get the touches he has on GS.. With West and Bogut in the post and Kidd looking to distribute this will probably hurt his number of shots a game. Ellis will clearly score some points, however defensively he’s a Huge liability. Much worse playing defense then JR Smith and Sefolosha. This will make him give up as many points as he will be scoring as he will have no clue how to defend JR Smith whatsoever. Also he doesn’t have any experience yet playing in the playoffs while Smith has.
Even though Ellis is the better scorer, we feel it’s pretty much a wash due to his lack of defense and JR’s experience.

Thabo Sefolosha vs. Ron Artest
What’s so great from our perspective is that possibly their best defender won’t be able to be fully used against our team. Artest is too slow to defend Rose, and too small to defend Big Al or Dwight (who are our main threats). This leaves him defending Thabo who will be in for defensive balance anyway. Thabo will have no trouble defending Artest as his Artest’s offensive game is clearly on the decline. I love our matchup here seeing none of our superstars is limited with him on the court.
No advantage for either team here.

Al Jefferson vs. David West
Wonderful matchup for us again. David West is soft and doesn’t play a lick of defense. Also he’s a horrible rebounder which will greatly benefit Big Al aswell. Jefferson will average 25 points this series easily. On the other side of the court Jefferson should be able to limit West’s scoring quite a bit. He’s won’t stop all points but should be able to make it tough on West.
HUGE advantage for Boston.

Dwight Howard vs. Andrew Bogut
You have to love this one aswell. Howard’s outplaying Bogut in every aspect this season. Bogut has a tendency to struggle against physically superior players. And with no double team being possible with Al Jefferson next to him, Howard should have no trouble overpowering Bogut on offence, while shutting him down on defense. Also Bogut lacks any sort of experience on the big stage which will hurt him even more.
Boston wins this one big time aswell!

Bench
They have a nice piece off the bench in Ariza, but once again just like with Artest his defense is pretty useless against us as he’ll be defending a defensive roleplayer in Sefolosha or a shooter in Stojakovic. Other then Ariza the bench is pretty weak. Krstic is a softie who won’t do anything against our frontcourt and Nate isn’t capable of making a team better. The one thing the cavs need in their backcourt is defense and on the bench that’s nowhere to be found. With Budinger and Stojakovic off the bench as impact guys we feel we can take their second unit pretty easily as apart from ariza it’s formed out of scrubs anyway.
We’ll take this one to finnish things off!

Conclusion:
All in all our bigs should once again dominate the boards while our guards will have free play against their offensive minded matchups. It looks closer then it in reality would be as we feel we match up so perfectly against this team. We should take this one fairly easy.



Cleveland Cavaliers Writeup:
Hallo Everybodys.
Unlike Bosox, I'm not going to be completely biased. I am the Cavs Co-GM but I really didn't do anything during all the mumbo jumbo, so I can look at this at a objective point of view.

The Pee Jee

Jason Kidd vs. Derrick Rose
Okay so I think most of you agree with me that Derrick Rose, Boston's point guard, wins this matchup. Kidd is too slow to guard a guy like that. But Kidd is a better defender than people give him credit for. He can force Derrick Rose into many turnovers and mistakes, forcing him out of his groove. Younger, inexperienced players lack the mentality and fundamentals at times, so they can be inconsistent. All-Star and seasoned veteran Kidd can make this matchup close.

Ball Handling - Kidd wins
Shooting - Kidd wins
Rebounding - Kidd wins
Defense - Kidd wins
Athleticism - Rose wins
Inside - Rose wins

Ess Jee

Monta Ellis vs. J.R. Smith
I'm pretty sure we know who wins here. J.R. Smith should be a bench player, and Monta Ellis, just look at those juicy stats. He is a combo guard with insane speed and his scoring ability is amazing. While J.R. Smith is just a pure shooter and that's it. He's not even that good, shooting at an ugly rate (40% FG, 33% 3PT) . Neither of them play a drop of defense at all, but Ellis can rack up a LOT of steals with his quickness, forcing the other team into many turnovers.

Ball Handling - Ellis wins
Shooting - Ellis wins
Defense - Ellis wins
Inside - Ellis wins
Rebounding - J.R. Smith (Neither of them can rebound, but J.R. Smith gets the nod because he is bigger than Ellis)
Athleticism - Ellis wins

Ess Eff
Ron Artest vs. Thabo Sefolosha
Both players are defensive minded wing players. But obviously Artest is a lot better as he is sometimes regarded as the best wing defender in the NBA. Thabo Sefolosha cannot do many other things except defense, but Artest not only can play the great D that shuts down opposing players, and he is extremely underrated offensively. Artest is big and strong, can bang with guys inside, he can stroke it at times from outside, and is an underrated ball handler.

Ball Handling - Artest wins
Shooting - Artest wins
Inside - Artest wins
Athleticism - Artest wins (underrated strength)
Rebounding - Artest wins
Defense - Artest wins

Almost no competition here. If those two matched up for an entire game, Thabo might finish with 2 points if he is lucky.

Pee Eff
David West vs. Al Jefferson

One thing I'd like to add before i do this matchup. Dwight Howard and Al Jefferson sounds like an amazing lineup, but I'd beg to differ. I think that them playing together will mean bad things for both of them. What Al Jefferson needs is room to work in the paint, and Dwight Howard the same. They will end up battling each other.

Al Jefferson wins by a very slight margin here, but David West has a similar game. They are both pretty talented offensively, but not so much on defense. I think Al Jefferson is an overrated player however, and David West an underrated one. I think a major point here is that David West is a 2x All-Star, while Al Jefferson has yet to make it. David West is very consistent, while Al Jefferson just last night against the Hawks had 10 Points and 4 Rebounds in 29 minutes of action. Inconsistency is a flaw in Al Jefferson's game.

Ball Handling - West wins, since Jefferson never passes
Shooting - West wins
Inside - Jefferson wins
Athleticism - West wins because he is much faster, neither of them can jump
Rebounding - Jefferson wins
Defense - Jefferson wins

See
Andrew Bogut vs. Dwight Howard

Yes I know your first thought. Dwight Howard is the best center yadda yadda, much better than Bogut yadda yadda. And it's partially true. Even though Howard averages 3.5 Turnovers Per Game, Dwight is the better player than Bogut here.

BUT

I have always had a deep passion for Andrew Bogut. He was the #1 overall pick, and I don't think is a bust at all. He is one of the best shot blockers in the NBA and I think he is one of the few centers that have a chance at containing Dwight Howard. Bogut doesn't put up the insane numbers Dwight does, but he had a bad start to the season recovering from an injury, he needed to shake off the rust. And now he has, he is on fire lately. Look at his last 4 games playing 30 minutes or more:

Feb 24 - 26 Points, 13 Rebounds, 2 Blocks
Feb 22 - 24 Points, 20 Rebounds, 5 Blocks
Feb 20 - 18 Points, 13 Rebounds, 5 Blocks
Feb 18 - 22 Points, 9 Rebounds, 4 Blocks

If you didn't know about Andrew Bogut before, now you do.

Between players averaging 20+ minutes:
Andrew Bogut is #5 in NBA in Blocks Per 48 minutes
Andrew Bogut is #5 in NBA in Rebounds Per 48

Dwight Howard you would think would be #1 in each category, but he is not. He is #2 and #3 in each stat, respectively.

Bogut is easily in the top 5 centers in the NBA.

Bench
Just to let you know, the Celtics bench is absolutely horrendous.

PG
Nate Robinson vs. Brevin Knight.
:facepalm:

SG
Marco Belinelli vs. Chase Budinger
I like gingers, but Chase Budinger is not as good as Marco Belinelli. Marco has the edge in many things, including shooting, speed, and quickness. Budinger should be a forward, not a guard. Atleast his 3PT% (36.5%) is better than J.R. Smith. :o

SF
Trevor Ariza vs. Peja Stojakovic.
Trevor Ariza would be a starter on most teams. On our team, maybe 6th man of the year. The only reason he is not starting on our team is that we have Artest-Ellis. Ariza is a great athlete, and that gives him the major major edge over Peja. Peja doesn't play defense anyways, and especially against a speedy guy like Ariza who can drive. Ariza is also an amazing defender, Peja doesn't stand a chance. Ariza wins by far.

PF
Leon Powe / Matt Bonner vs. Jason Smith
Lol. Jason Smith and his amazing 3.9 ppg and 1.9 rpg. He gets playing time too, he just sucks.

C
Nenad Krstic vs. Kwame Brown.
Krstic is a productive starter averaging 7.9 ppg. Kwame brown is... well, Kwame Brown. :facepalm:

TheKing23
03-01-2010, 01:19 PM
The starting 5 for the Celtics is pretty good, but their bench is a pile of ****. I think the Cavs actually match up quite well with them, and the Cavs write up was MUCH better and less biased, so i'll go with them.

clehmun
03-01-2010, 03:08 PM
I'm not a fan of biased write-ups.

artest vs thabo = no advantage for either team? really? Defensively artest is better. Offensively, artest is A LOT better.

alencp3
03-01-2010, 03:20 PM
Marco Bellinelli is the key here.

BosoxPapi61
03-01-2010, 04:17 PM
JR Smith and Monta Ellis is a wash :eyebrow: no bench for the cavs :eyebrow: Rose is much much better than Kidd :eyebrow: Artest = Thabo?! :laugh2: West <<<<< Jefferson :eyebrow: You guys though my write up was bad?

Westbrook36
03-01-2010, 04:18 PM
At this point Artest isnt the same defensive player he has been in the past. This is a tough matchup so it will take some time to think about it.

JNA17
03-01-2010, 04:21 PM
wow no offense to the celtics but your writeup was really bad and very biased lol.


Thabo Sefolosha vs. Ron Artest
No advantage for either team here.

Are you out of your mind!?

JNA17
03-01-2010, 04:25 PM
At this point Artest isnt the same defensive player he has been in the past. This is a tough matchup so it will take some time to think about it.

:facepalm:

Artest's last handful of games.

A.Iguodala 5-15 ( 13 pts)

S.Marion 5-11 (10 pts)

R.Gay 7-17 (17 pts)

P.Pierce 4-9 (11 pts)

C.Maggete 4-13 (17 pts)

C.Anthony 7-19 (21 pts)

just a little tiny example but point is, lakers this year are now one of the top defensive teams in the league unlike the past few years? I wonder why....

EL HEAT
03-01-2010, 04:34 PM
I think Sefolosha is a better defender than Artest imo. I also don't like the way the celtics team is built.

Westbrook36
03-01-2010, 05:08 PM
:facepalm:

Artest's last handful of games.

A.Iguodala 5-15 ( 13 pts)

S.Marion 5-11 (10 pts)

R.Gay 7-17 (17 pts)

P.Pierce 4-9 (11 pts)

C.Maggete 4-13 (17 pts)

C.Anthony 7-19 (21 pts)

just a little tiny example but point is, lakers this year are now one of the top defensive teams in the league unlike the past few years? I wonder why....

You are positive that Ron Artest was on them during the whole time? I'm willing to be that Kobe played in a huge part in guarding most of them. It's tough to say that he's a good defender simply because a few players didn't have a good game, while we don't know if he covered them the whole time. I've watched plenty of games this season where Artest hasn't been as quick in the past and has lost a step. It's not saying he's a bad defender, however he's not the same he use to be. Most of them shot around 48-50% going off the top of my head too.

JNA17
03-01-2010, 05:15 PM
You are positive that Ron Artest was on them during the whole time?.

Obviously not while he was on the bench, but when he was on the court, i can say this with 99.99% confidence.

CAVS21
03-01-2010, 05:21 PM
As a complete team Cleveland is better in this match-up....their bench trumps the C's bench all day everyday and twice on sunday...BUT the C's starters are superior......So IMO 5 guys can't win a playoff series an entire team does.....CAVS

bigsams50
03-01-2010, 05:22 PM
Celtics just have too much size for the Cavs. I'm voting Celtics

1-800-STFU
03-01-2010, 05:29 PM
That horribly biased joke of a writeup forced me to vote Cavs.

Agar81
03-01-2010, 05:55 PM
celtics. bench is iffy but I like them better

tredigs
03-01-2010, 05:56 PM
After reading that write up, I now hate the ACTUAL Boston Celtics, if that gives you any idea of how ridiculous, arrogant, and poor that was.

Plus, the Cavs here have a much more balanced team, not to mention that both Jefferson and Howard like to clog the paint, with D. Rose also in love with the quick slashes to the hoop for his buckets. That's a lot of bodies, and not a lot of space. Jefferson has also been less than what he's capable of all year, still trying to get his "bounce" back after that knee surgery. I just don't see the team chemistry here being a good one in a number of ways for the Celtics. And you'd better pray nobody EVER gets a flu or a minor injury, because Jason Smith and Kwame Brown ain't gonna come in and win too many games for you...

Tblaze
03-01-2010, 06:49 PM
Ooh I see I lost quite some votes to my beautiful write up. Well actually I was expecting an extremely biased writeup by the cavs last time.. so I thought I'd do the same ;) but oh well I'll try make it a bit more fair next time.. I hope you guys will still love me.

ugafan
03-01-2010, 07:43 PM
The Celtics GM is a ****ing douchebag. I'm not baiting because I don't know who it is, but he should be fired for being a douche.

BosoxPapi61
03-01-2010, 07:51 PM
I am losing but yet, most people that post in the thread vote for the Cavs. So people that click and vote and don't read writeups are the Celtic Voters...

JNA17
03-01-2010, 07:59 PM
Ooh I see I lost quite some votes to my beautiful write up. Well actually I was expecting an extremely biased writeup by the cavs last time.. so I thought I'd do the same ;) but oh well I'll try make it a bit more fair next time.. I hope you guys will still love me.

it's ok your still my ***** ;)

Kakaroach
03-01-2010, 08:06 PM
iLove Andrew Bogut. Throw in the fact how horrible the Celtics write-up is and I went Cavs.

avrpatsfan
03-01-2010, 08:15 PM
Celtics win.

Phool™
03-01-2010, 08:21 PM
It's funny how most people think the Cavs win in the posting, but in the voting the Celtics are winning.

Phool™
03-01-2010, 08:23 PM
After reading that write up, I now hate the ACTUAL Boston Celtics, if that gives you any idea of how ridiculous, arrogant, and poor that was.

Plus, the Cavs here have a much more balanced team, not to mention that both Jefferson and Howard like to clog the paint, with D. Rose also in love with the quick slashes to the hoop for his buckets. That's a lot of bodies, and not a lot of space. Jefferson has also been less than what he's capable of all year, still trying to get his "bounce" back after that knee surgery. I just don't see the team chemistry here being a good one in a number of ways for the Celtics. And you'd better pray nobody EVER gets a flu or a minor injury, because Jason Smith and Kwame Brown ain't gonna come in and win too many games for you...

Agreed. The paint can only hold so many players.

ldc62
03-01-2010, 08:26 PM
JR smith is more athletic than Ellis...

Not close IMO, Celtics in 5

BosoxPapi61
03-01-2010, 08:36 PM
JR smith is more athletic than Ellis...

Not close IMO, Celtics in 5

:facepalm:

A.Mopp
03-01-2010, 09:14 PM
Writeup is hilarious. But the Celtics still have a better team. They have a monster frontcourt and an excellent PG. And the perfect mix of role players with Thabo/JR/Budginer/Peja.

Both are good teams and the cavs have the better bench.

Young2Kinsler
03-01-2010, 09:21 PM
People are voting for Boston with that bench and write up? Wow thats sickening. Cleveland is being robbed.

Phool™
03-01-2010, 10:13 PM
Writeup is hilarious. But the Celtics still have a better team. They have a monster frontcourt and an excellent PG. And the perfect mix of role players with Thabo/JR/Budginer/Peja.

Both are good teams and the cavs have the better bench.

The Celtics have NO wing players. They will have to rely on Rose, Jefferson, and Howard.

Those three are all paint-dominating players and will suck together.

td0tsfinest
03-01-2010, 10:50 PM
Boston.

A.Mopp
03-01-2010, 11:46 PM
The Celtics have NO wing players. They will have to rely on Rose, Jefferson, and Howard.

Those three are all paint-dominating players and will suck together.

how so? JR plays the Wing as does Thabo. But hes more for D. Peja and Budginer give the celtics some distance shooting of the bench. Boston's bench is really bad but since when does a bench win a mock? Never

Mile High Champ
03-01-2010, 11:58 PM
biased write up really hurt the celtics big time. Even though I think Ron Artest is the most overated player today in the NBA, ill go with the cavs. Put Jefferson and Howard together would be a terrible idea..

MacFitz92
03-02-2010, 12:04 AM
I think these teams are pretty even, but when the Boston guy wrote Sefolosha was equal to Ron Artest that did it for me. I don't like extremely biased write ups.

Young2Kinsler
03-02-2010, 01:33 AM
It's probably a bunch of Boston homers voting for them. They like to stroke their little cocks everytime their team is mentioned in anything.

J-Relo
03-02-2010, 09:20 AM
OK, it's Celtics -> starters fit together nicely... not a great bench, but they are just better...

J-Relo
03-02-2010, 09:21 AM
biased write up really hurt the celtics big time. Even though I think Ron Artest is the most overated player today in the NBA, ill go with the cavs. Put Jefferson and Howard together would be a terrible idea..

why?:eyebrow:

Young2Kinsler
03-02-2010, 10:40 AM
why?:eyebrow:

Well having a young PG who loves to slash through the lane really doesn't work when you have 2 huge guys with their defenders in the way as the clog the lane. Plus with no wingers to spread the defense, it will be one big cluster**** in the lane.

sunnydayin'zona
03-02-2010, 11:08 AM
what if they had al jeff coming off the bench as a lamar odom sort of 6th man? i feel like that may be better

clehmun
03-02-2010, 11:18 AM
what if they had al jeff coming off the bench as a lamar odom sort of 6th man? i feel like that may be better

And start Jason Smith or Brian Scalabrine? Nah. They already have one "liability" on offense (Thabo), can't afford to have 2 guys who can't score in the starting lineup. They can't even combine to score 10 points. And I don't really see Al Jeff as the 6th man type player.

JerzeyFresh
03-03-2010, 01:51 PM
I think we got robbed

Tblaze
03-03-2010, 02:22 PM
I think we got robbed

My writeup was the worst of this mock so far, there were about 10 people who commented, after reading the writeup and seeing how horrible it was I couldn't vote Boston. Which meens, even half of the people voting in the cavs favor did it because of my beautiful writeup. I don't see how you could've gotten robbed if it should've been an even bigger sweep then it already was??

Young2Kinsler
03-03-2010, 02:41 PM
My writeup was the worst of this mock so far, there were about 10 people who commented, after reading the writeup and seeing how horrible it was I couldn't vote Boston. Which meens, even half of the people voting in the cavs favor did it because of my beautiful writeup. I don't see how you could've gotten robbed if it should've been an even bigger sweep then it already was??

Just shut up and move on. You got a lucky win, in which your team was not better.

JerzeyFresh
03-03-2010, 02:49 PM
Just shut up and move on. You got a lucky win, in which your team was not better.

Thank you.