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BlondeBomber41
02-25-2010, 11:33 PM
This season we did a mock trade deadline in which users on this site took over as GM's of every team in the NBA. The goal was to improve your team the most before the real life trade deadline. The users then voted on playoff seedings of the other conference, and now its up to you to vote for who wins each matchup.

Please remember that this is just a game and there is no reason to vote for a team just because thats actually your favorite team in real life. Everybody worked really hard on their teams and it's only fair that you judge each team based on that teams talent, not that teams name.

At the bottom each team has sent in a write up explaining why they feel they would win the series. Please read each writeup before you make your decision, to be fair to the GM's who wrote it.

San Antonio has the homecourt advantage due to being the higher seed.


San Antonio Spurs Lineup:

C: Mehmet Okur - Antonio McDyess - Ronny Turiaf
PF: Tim Duncan - Charlie Villanueva - Ronny Turiaf
SF: Shane Battier - Quinton Ross - Desmond Mason
SG: Ronnie Brewer - Manu Ginobili - Kyle Weaver
PG: Tony Parker - George Hill - Rodrigue Beaubois


Los Angeles Lakers Lineup:

PG: Derek Fisher/Daniel Gibson
SG: Kobe Bryant/Greg Buckner/Adam Morrison
SF: Lebron James/Jamario Moon/Luke Walton
PF: Drew Gooden/Tim Thomas/Renaldo Balkman
C: Andrew Bynum/Melvin Ely/DJ Mbenga




San Antonio Spurs Writeup:
Going into this game the Lakers were the team to beat, the reigning NBA Champions. They had the best starting 5 in the NBA and a great 6th man in Lamar Odom.

Instead of sticking to that formula of building a solid core around Kobe, the Lakers GM decided to throw everything into pairing Lebron with Kobe and I think ultimately he made his team worse in the process.

The Lakers are essentially a three man team now. Kobe/Lebron/Bynum will all put up big numbers, but they cant do it themselves and ultimately that will be this teams downfall. Its the reason why they went from being a unanimous #1 seed to a #5 seed in the West.

The Lakers biggest weapons are Lebron James and Kobe Bryant, so we paired Shane Battier with Ronnie Brewer in our starting lineup to make things difficult on them. They wont be stopped, but they will work for everything they get. They will both drop 25 or so a night most likely due to the fact that the Lakers have no other options, but they will do it working hard for everything and most likely wont shoot for their normal percentages. Kobe and Lebron are use to having the ball in their hands at all times, I question how well they would work together. Im sure they would both do great, but not as well as you would think. This isn't NBA Live.

Bynum will be solid down low, but a player like Tim Duncan guarding him will really limit his effectiveness. On the other end Duncan will most likely get Bynum into foul trouble pretty easily, which will only put more pressure on LeKobe to do everything. I will give Bynum credit that he could do a solid job on Duncan, but when Duncan inevitably gets him in foul trouble who can come in and give Bynum a break? Melvin Ely? Renaldo Balkman?

Dont look at the lineup and assume Mehmet Okur would spend any real time guarding Andrew Bynum. It just wouldn't happen. Duncan would get the majority of the minutes on him, and then we have two very good post defenders in Antonio McDyess and Ronny Turiaf who can come off the bench and give Bynum a different look as well. Okur will guard Drew Gooden while on the floor, which isn't exactly a tough task.

Parker will dominate his matchup with Derek Fisher, like usual. Hell, George Hill will dominate Fisher. Derek Fisher is a nice spot up shooter but he has never been able to handle Tony Parker, and George Hill will be the same problem.

Gooden is a decent player, but he isn't a starter on a championship caliber team and he will get exposed. He doesnt have the ability to make Okur pay down low, and Okur is the more talented offensive player. He will give Gooden troubles. Far too many times does Gooden slack off on defense and force bad shots. As a Mavs fan I saw it for over half of this season and while I appreciate his hustle sometimes most of the time I was screaming at the TV to get his *** off the floor.

Then when you compare the benches you can see that the Lakers bench wouldnt give their starters any help at all. Their bench is full of players either out of the league or sitting on their teams bench handing out high fives..... while our bench has two former All Stars in Manu Ginobili (has has been tearing it up lately if you haven't noticed) and Antonio McDyess, Charlie Villanueva, George Hill, Ronny Turiaf, Rodrigue Beaubois, and another very good perimeter defender in Quinton Ross to throw at LeKobe. Whether you need scoring, rebounding, playmaking, defense, or energy our bench can provide that the whole series.

I applaud the Lakers GM for not sitting around and doing nothing, but IMO he should of kept the Kobe/Pau/Gasol trio and built a deep, talented squad around those guys. I think in trying to get the biggest names he forgot about the team game and what it takes to win in the NBA.

Good luck to the Lakers, may the better team win.




Los Angeles Lakers Writeup:
The Lakers are happy to be back in the playoffs with Kobe at the helm. This time around, he has another superstar on the perimeter with Lebron manning the other wing, giving us the top two players in the league to build around. They alone would be able to provide scoring and defense and alone should be enough to defeat any team. But we also have a 3rd star in Andrew Bynum, a top 5 center, anchoring the post. Without Gasol to limit his touches, expect Bynum to go off for 20/10 on a regular basis. We also have placed a top notch distributor and 3-point shooter at PG in Derek Fisher and a great interior rebounded and defender in Drew Gooden to complement Bynum’s scoring. Honestly, we don't feel we should be ranked as low as 5th, but we don't mind. We are ready to prove the other GMs wrong and show that out team really is the best on in this mock. Here’s our matchups for this round again the Spurs:

PG: Derek Fisher vs. Tony Parker: I’m not gonna lie and say Fisher is better than Parker, because he isn’t. But Fisher fits our system much better. He is a lights out 3-point shooter and a great distributor in the triangle offense perfected by our Head Coach, Phil Jackson.

SG: Kobe Bryant vs. Ronnie Brewer: Brewer is a defensive specialist and nothing more. Kobe is a superstar, a top 2 player in the league along with Lebron. 28 PPG and over 46% shooting percentage. Frankly, he’s a game changer and has a huge advantage over Brewer.

SF: Lebron James vs. Shane Battier: Battier is another defensive specialist with basically no offensive game. Not only will Lebron be able to shut him down on the defensive end, but on the offensive end Lebron will destroy him with his size and ability. 30 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 8.4 APG. He’s the real deal. Him and Lebron form an unstoppable threat, and because you can’t double team both of them, one will destroy the other team. I strongly believe those two are what will propel me to this series victory.

PF: Drew Gooden vs. Tim Duncan: Both Gooden and Duncan are very good defenders and rebounders. Gooden will be able to beat Duncan down on the fast breaks and that how he will get a majority of his points in this series. On the defensive end, Gooden and his strong defensive post teammate Andrew Bynum will be able to shut down Duncan and Memo for the most part. Of course Duncan is better, but Gooden will be able to contribute significantly regardless.

Center: Andrew Bynum vs. Mehmet Okur: This matchup may be the deciding one in this series. And in my opinion, Bynum is a helluva lot better than Okur, Okur will not be able to get his usual open perimeter shots with Kobe and Lebron out there. And inside, Bynum will be able to post up Okur and score on him nearly every time. Okur has had a down year so this matchup clearly favors the improving Bynum. Bynum is much younger so he will be able to keep up and stop any fast break points Okur may try to get, and without Gasol to restrict his touches, look for Bynum to put up around 20/10/2 consistently. We really like how we match up in this series.

Bench: The bench favors the Spurs clearly. But Kobe, Lebron, and Bynum are all capable of playing 40+ minutes, so we will not need much backup play from their spots. We have Jamario Moon coming off the bench for defense and 3-point shooting and he will be able to backup both Lebron and Kobe. At PG, we will have a rotation where Fisher and another young stud shooter Daniel Gibson will be splitting time. Gibson was a monster in the absence of Mo Williams in the Cavs’ lineup this past year so he should be a very good backup to Fisher complementing his old teammate Lebron and his new superstar teammate Kobe. Then, at PF, if we want to change it up a bit, we will put Bynum on Duncan and then put Tim Thomas in for Gooden. Thomas is also a very good 3-point shooter and scorer so his style of play will be able to match Okur’s and also contain him on the defensive end.

All in all, we feel we matchup very nicely against the spurs. We are looking forward to the WCF against the Jazz or Warriors. :)

JNA17
02-25-2010, 11:35 PM
Have to go with lakers on this one. I don't think kobe and lebron together would lose in the first round.

FC_4_life
02-25-2010, 11:36 PM
Good luck to the Spurs. This should be a great series.

ManRam
02-25-2010, 11:37 PM
LeBron and Kobe I think would work. LeBron would be the primary ball handler, and I think he'd make Kobe even more unstoppable than he already is. Kobe would take some of the burden off LeBron, allowing the offense to come more fluidly for him. The role players around them are solid.

B.JenningsMVP
02-25-2010, 11:39 PM
What a squad the Lakers have lol

still1ballin
02-25-2010, 11:40 PM
Kobe and Lebron on that same team? Killer

BlondeBomber41
02-25-2010, 11:43 PM
Yeah lets ignore that beyond three players their team is awful. Ugh, typical PSD voters I swear.

ManRam
02-25-2010, 11:48 PM
Yeah lets ignore that beyond three players their team is awful. Ugh, typical PSD voters I swear.

In the playoffs, depth doesn't mean nearly as much. SA has a very deep team, that's great...but it isn't terribly significant.

If LeBron can lead his current squad to the best record in the league in consecutive years, and the Finals 2 years before...I think with Kobe and Bynum, he can do a lot more.

BlondeBomber41
02-25-2010, 11:50 PM
In the playoffs, depth doesn't mean nearly as much. SA has a very deep team, that's great...but it isn't terribly significant.

If LeBron can lead his current squad to the best record in the league in consecutive years, and the Finals 2 years before...I think with Kobe and Bynum, he can do a lot more.

Depth beyond three or 4 people certainly matters. I mean seriously, there isn't a player on his bench that I think plays ten minutes a game. Some of them arent even on a team.

ldc62
02-25-2010, 11:54 PM
I chose Lakers, but their Bench is garbage. Moon is NOT a good defender, he always falls for the pumpfake. How are the Lakers only 5th?

astrosmaniac
02-25-2010, 11:58 PM
because they have fisher and gooden starting with no one to take the pressure off of them from the bench

ChiSox219
02-26-2010, 12:00 AM
Spurs in 7 with HCA

The Spurs match up well, Battier and Brewer are good perimeter defenders and while you can't really stop Lebron, this team with Duncan in the paint should at least be able to contain him.

Bynum-Duncan will be an interesting match, but Duncan takes the kid to school. Parker will absolutely shred Fisher and I think that's the real difference maker.

By the 7th game of the series Kobe and Lebron are gonna be tired from playing 48 each of the previous 6 games.

Also, a 2 man + triangle zone could shut down the Lakers offense.

FC_4_life
02-26-2010, 12:03 AM
I chose Lakers, but their Bench is garbage. Moon is NOT a good defender, he always falls for the pumpfake. How are the Lakers only 5th?

Exactly what I'm wondering.

Astrosmaniac-Your claim is ignorant because Fisher started for the NBA champion Lakers last year. And Gooden is very capable of starting, we just need him to provide shutdown post defense and provide his usual 9/7/1.

And we don't need too much depth when Kobe, Bynum, and Lebron all play 40 minutes per game. We have Thomas to split time with Gooden and Gibson to split time with Fisher, both of whom are very good bench scrers. Then we have Moon for perimeter shooting if Kobe or Lebron need a rest. We'll be fine depth-wise, and Kobe and Lebron give us an unstoppable duo.

ManRam
02-26-2010, 12:04 AM
Depth beyond three or 4 people certainly matters. I mean seriously, there isn't a player on his bench that I think plays ten minutes a game. Some of them arent even on a team.

Gooden plays 22.8 minutes a game.
Fisher gets 27.3 on the second best team in the league.
Gibson gets 20.3 on the best team in the league.
Moon gets 17.8 again on the best team in the league.
Ely gets 12.0.

They play those 5 starters, bring in Boobie, Moon and Ely for a few minutes here and there...and they aren't losing this series. Moon is a good athlete, and a good man defender. Ely is a very solid defender. Boobie can shoot the hell out of it.

Again, LeBron, Kobe and Bynum is enough. I really think it is. The rest of the guys are good veteran players, who can fulfill their role, and know how to win.

carter15
02-26-2010, 12:09 AM
yea lakers forsure.

use manrams reasoning.

BlondeBomber41
02-26-2010, 12:12 AM
Gooden plays 22.8 minutes a game.
Fisher gets 27.3 on the second best team in the league.
Gibson gets 20.3 on the best team in the league.
Moon gets 17.8 again on the best team in the league.
Ely gets 12.0.

They play those 5 starters, bring in Boobie, Moon and Ely for a few minutes here and there...and they aren't losing this series. Moon is a good athlete, and a good man defender. Ely is a very solid defender. Boobie can shoot the hell out of it.

Again, LeBron, Kobe and Bynum is enough. I really think it is. The rest of the guys are good veteran players, who can fulfill their role, and know how to win.

Ely doesnt get 12. He isn't even in the league, on a roster.

Despite having a pretty good center, the Lakers still have a pretty bad frontcourt. Gooden was playing those minutes because Erick Dampier got hurt and he was the only player of decent size to play minutes on the Mavs. He isn't any good. There is a reason why he gets traded and cut every year, he is by no means a starter on a championship contending team.

Then who spells Bynum and Gooden? Out of the league Melvin Ely or Renaldo Balkman? lol you gotta be kidding me on that.

The impact Daniel Gibson and Jamario Moon would have on this series is minimal at best, Gibson especially blows.

Westbrook36
02-26-2010, 12:14 AM
I knew the, "Omgz he has lebrun n k0be!" would kill this series. He's voted this low because Derek Fisher is awful defender who really is just a decent role player at this point in his career. Drew Gooden isnt terrible, but he's not some defensive beast that FC attempted to make him sound like.

Ragun
02-26-2010, 12:15 AM
drew gooden is definitely a decent PF. hes like scola...but not as good.

BlondeBomber41
02-26-2010, 12:16 AM
Exactly what I'm wondering.

Astrosmaniac-Your claim is ignorant because Fisher started for the NBA champion Lakers last year. And Gooden is very capable of starting, we just need him to provide shutdown post defense and provide his usual 9/7/1.

And we don't need too much depth when Kobe, Bynum, and Lebron all play 40 minutes per game. We have Thomas to split time with Gooden and Gibson to split time with Fisher, both of whom are very good bench scrers. Then we have Moon for perimeter shooting if Kobe or Lebron need a rest. We'll be fine depth-wise, and Kobe and Lebron give us an unstoppable duo.

Andrew Bynum can't play 40 minutes, he can barely play 30 due to the fact he always gets in foul trouble. Then put him on the guy with the best post moves in the NBA in Tim Duncan and he'll be on the bench for half the game. Then you are playing guys like Melvin Ely heavy minutes...

I dont know why you keep thinking Gooden is a good defender. He isn't. Not even close.

ChiSox219
02-26-2010, 12:16 AM
You have to figure Lebron plays 48 between SF, PF, and PG.

Kobe probably plays close to the same.

All in, given how savvy the Spurs are as a team and they have HCA, I think they take this series.

Edit: Good point by BB41 about Bynum and foul trouble, he won't be able to stay in the game for 40 minutes.

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02-26-2010, 12:17 AM
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02-26-2010, 12:18 AM
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KnicksorBust
02-26-2010, 12:22 AM
Great series. You look at Kobe/LeBron and you almost don't even want to waste your time looking at the other lineup. Then you look at the Spurs and it's almost like they were constructed JUST TO BEAT the Lakers. Two great perimeter defenders. A speedy PG to take advantage of Fisher. The best PF ever to brutalize Drew Gooden (who sucks, he really does), and then a 3pt shooting center to pull Bynum away from the basket (unless they switch of course). It's a tough call because Duncan over Gooden/Bynum and Parker over Fisher are two huge advantages. Plus there is Manu on the bench. So I start to lean toward the Spurs. However, if I'm the Lakers I could probably just throw LeBron on Parker and swallow him right up. Battier and Brewer won't give you nearly enough offense and is Manu even really the same Manu anymore? Now I'm leaning Lakers... and then I read the writeups. Spurs writeup is logical, concise and effective. Lakers is weak and felt too much like they were overrating players like Bynum, Gooden and Fisher to mask how weak their bench was.

I'm actually going to sleep on it and vote in the morning. :laugh: Both teams look very strong.

Westbrook36
02-26-2010, 12:24 AM
Great series. You look at Kobe/LeBron and you almost don't even want to waste your time looking at the other lineup. Then you look at the Spurs and it's almost like they were constructed JUST TO BEAT the Lakers. Two great perimeter defenders. A speedy PG to take advantage of Fisher. The best PF ever to brutalize Drew Gooden (who sucks, he really does), and then a 3pt shooting center to pull Bynum away from the basket (unless they switch of course). It's a tough call because Duncan over Gooden/Bynum and Parker over Fisher are two huge advantages. Plus there is Manu on the bench. So I start to lean toward the Spurs. However, if I'm the Lakers I could probably just throw LeBron on Parker and swallow him right up. Battier and Brewer won't give you nearly enough offense and is Manu even really the same Manu anymore? Now I'm leaning Lakers... and then I read the writeups. Spurs writeup is logical, concise and effective. Lakers is weak and felt too much like they were overrating players like Bynum, Gooden and Fisher to mask how weak their bench was.

I'm actually going to sleep on it and vote in the morning. :laugh: Both teams look very strong.

I'm going to do the same, I feel like this is an awesome matchup for the Spurs.

TheKing23
02-26-2010, 12:24 AM
Haha, LeBron and Kobe on the same team?!

Gotta go with the Lakers!

Westbrook36
02-26-2010, 12:27 AM
Haha, LeBron and Kobe on the same team?!

Gotta go with the Lakers!

:sigh:

I expect to see this a lot.

BlondeBomber41
02-26-2010, 12:33 AM
Haha, LeBron and Kobe on the same team?!

Gotta go with the Lakers!

Yeah lets ignore the fact they have the worst bench in the history of the NBA, two weak starters and a center who is prone to foul trouble guarding the best post scorer in the NBA. Its Lebron and Kobe! :pity:

still1ballin
02-26-2010, 12:40 AM
Yeah lets ignore the fact they have the worst bench in the history of the NBA, two weak starters and a center who is prone to foul trouble guarding the best post scorer in the NBA. Its Lebron and Kobe! :pity:

Can you stop crying? Its getting annoying already. People are entitled to their own opinion and you need to respect that. People vote for who ever they want, whether you like it or not. Deal with it.

Kakaroach
02-26-2010, 12:41 AM
By far the most interesting match-up in the mock. Too bad it didn't include my team.

I'll vote tomorrow, such a close match-up.

BlondeBomber41
02-26-2010, 12:43 AM
Can you stop crying? Its getting annoying already. People are entitled to their own opinion and you need to respect that. People vote for who ever they want, whether you like it or not. Deal with it.

You people with your simplistic mind and in your case homerism Im sure just kill me... there is a reason they dropped from #1 to #5 in the West. I'd take the real Lakers any day.

FC_4_life
02-26-2010, 12:44 AM
Honestly, I don't see too big of a change between these Spurs and the real life Spurs aside from Memo, who has really done poorly this year. The real life Spurs have the 11th best record in the league. My Lakers have the starting PG and Center from the 2nd best team in the league and the superstar player from both the first and second best teams in the league (coincidentally the two best players in the league).

When Lebron and Kobe are playing nearly the whole game, I don't need much off the bench at PG (Lebron can slide there), SG, or SF. Then I have arguably my top bench scorer in Tim Thomas backing up at PF. So I'm fine there. And if necessary, I can slide Gooden down to Center to give Bynum a rest or I can play a pretty good defender in Ely at center. Who's the Lakers' current backup center? It's DJ Mbenga, but they seem to be doing fine with him.

By the way BB41, my clubhouse doesn't have Tim Thomas as the backup SF. But he's there, so please update the roster on the first page accordingly. He is probably my 1st or 2nd best bench piece, so I definitely need him in there. He's the guy who will be backing up Gooden, and the complement each other perfectly because Gooden brings rebounding and post scoring, while Thomas brings shooting and tons of scoring.

TheKing23
02-26-2010, 12:46 AM
Yeah lets ignore the fact they have the worst bench in the history of the NBA, two weak starters and a center who is prone to foul trouble guarding the best post scorer in the NBA. Its Lebron and Kobe! :pity:

Hey man, it's just my opinion... What difference does it make in the grand scheme of things...

Someone sounds a little biased... :rolleyes:

If it's any consolation, your Spurs team really does match up well with them. Battier could do a solid job switching between Kobe and LeBron and that bench is fire. It would be a close series, but I think Kobe and LeBron would be too much. Bynum would probably have a big series against Okur as well.

Kakaroach
02-26-2010, 12:49 AM
I think BB41 has done a great job with the Spurs. He got Okur, Brewer, Battier and Charlie Vill without having to give up any of his big 3 of Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli.

Anywho I'll think about it some more, what a match-up.

BlondeBomber41
02-26-2010, 12:49 AM
Hey man, it's just my opinion... What difference does it make in the grand scheme of things...

Someone sounds a little biased... :rolleyes:

If it's any consolation, your Spurs team really does match up well with them. Battier could do a solid job switching between Kobe and LeBron and that bench is fire. It would be a close series, but I think Kobe and LeBron would be too much. Bynum would probably have a big series against Okur as well.

You didnt even read the writeups did you? Obviously not. Just because Okur is the center and Bynum is the center doesn't mean Okur would guard Bynum. I got this guy Tim Duncan, pretty damn good post defender that I could put on Bynum.

astrosmaniac
02-26-2010, 12:54 AM
Exactly what I'm wondering.

Astrosmaniac-Your claim is ignorant because Fisher started for the NBA champion Lakers last year. And Gooden is very capable of starting, we just need him to provide shutdown post defense and provide his usual 9/7/1.

And we don't need too much depth when Kobe, Bynum, and Lebron all play 40 minutes per game. We have Thomas to split time with Gooden and Gibson to split time with Fisher, both of whom are very good bench scrers. Then we have Moon for perimeter shooting if Kobe or Lebron need a rest. We'll be fine depth-wise, and Kobe and Lebron give us an unstoppable duo.

derek fisher started at PG as obviously the worst starter on the deepest team in the NBA last year with two other pretty good PGs to split time with. he averaged less than 29 MPG, and you dont have nearly the depth the real life lakers do at PG, so your asking him to play a hell of a lot more minutes

Ragun
02-26-2010, 01:00 AM
Honestly, I don't see too big of a change between these Spurs and the real life Spurs aside from Memo, who has really done poorly this year. The real life Spurs have the 11th best record in the league. My Lakers have the starting PG and Center from the 2nd best team in the league and the superstar player from both the first and second best teams in the league (coincidentally the two best players in the league).

When Lebron and Kobe are playing nearly the whole game, I don't need much off the bench at PG (Lebron can slide there), SG, or SF. Then I have arguably my top bench scorer in Tim Thomas backing up at PF. So I'm fine there. And if necessary, I can slide Gooden down to Center to give Bynum a rest or I can play a pretty good defender in Ely at center. Who's the Lakers' current backup center? It's DJ Mbenga, but they seem to be doing fine with him.

By the way BB41, my clubhouse doesn't have Tim Thomas as the backup SF. But he's there, so please update the roster on the first page accordingly. He is probably my 1st or 2nd best bench piece, so I definitely need him in there. He's the guy who will be backing up Gooden, and the complement each other perfectly because Gooden brings rebounding and post scoring, while Thomas brings shooting and tons of scoring.

there made some huge changes if you ask me. they added 1 great and 1 good perimeter defenders in battier and brewer. added charlie v who gives them instant offense, acquired turiaf to replace blair.

BB41 made good efficient moves to bolster his team.

you did a great job too. i dont see how lebron and kobe lose with a solid cast around them.

roshan3ai
02-26-2010, 01:09 AM
Why does FC think that Drew Gooden is some kind of Godly post defender? If he was even an average post defender, he wouldn't have bounced around the league so much

HoopsDrive
02-26-2010, 02:47 AM
This is a terrific series. They are well matched across the board.

The Lakers have the top 2 superstars in the league in the same team. That's a huge edge, no matter how you look at it. It's like having Magic and Bird in their peaks playing in the same team or Russell and Chamberlain, it's crazy good and would be a sure fire for contenders any year. Obviously, their supporting cast woud be pretty bad. But with LBJ and Kobe you only need enough to cover certain areas. Bynum-Gooden is a decent enough frontcourt for LBJ-Kobe. They will both be dominated by Timmy-Okur though. Parker is obviously a better PG compared to Fisher. He's going to abuse his penetration skills and get to the hole at will in this series, unless they decide to put either LBJ or Kobe on him since Battier and Brewer aren't really offensive options to be extremely worried about. Finally, the Spurs bench is way better than the Lakers but I actually see some positives in there for LA. Moon is a decent man defender if not for his pump fake baits. Boobie and Walton are decent scoring punches for them. Their frontcourt is going to get destroyed though, Ely and Balkman don't match up well with Villanueva and McDyess at all.

In the end, the real question is if the monster pair of LBJ and Kobe will be enough to overcome the shotrcomings of a limited supporting cast. Although I think that the Spurs will pose a real challenge with their stiff defense, deep bench and impressive playoff experience, the tandem of LBJ-Kobe would be enough to overcome them. Lakers in 7 in a very close series.

jrice9
02-26-2010, 07:42 AM
Can I change my vote.

I didnt actually see Manu was still on the Spurs.

J-Relo
02-26-2010, 08:16 AM
well... how did they get LEBRON????

alencp3
02-26-2010, 08:17 AM
Adam Morrison with his killer mustache and old-school style coming from the bench will kill Spurs with 6 threes a game!
/thread

Tblaze
02-26-2010, 08:26 AM
Gotta go with the Spurs here, they just matchup so perfectly with these Lakers. They have the defensive stoppers at the positions they need it. Gooden is HORRIBLE don't make him out to be some great defender cause he's actually pretty crap. And Fisher won't EVER be able to stop Parker. Also Okur seems to be the perfect center to counteract Bynum who won't leave the paint.

Got to go with the spurs, I just don't see the Lakers able to cope with injuries/minutes (Fisher won't be able to note more then 25 and who do you have then??) and Bynum's foultrouble will cost them this series.

vitamins_
02-26-2010, 08:33 AM
I dont see how the lakers can lose this. Lebron and Kobe have the ability to make everyone else on the team better. Lebron and kobe would be around 60 points combined plus what maybe 15+ assts which be what 90. Plus there defense ability to shut down people. Lakers for sure

BosoxPapi61
02-26-2010, 12:02 PM
ZOMG KOBE AND LEBRON!1!!!!!111!! I voted for the Spurs, come on PSD

clutchski
02-26-2010, 12:11 PM
Despite the SAS having the better bench, I gotta choose the Lakers on this one.

jimbobjarree
02-26-2010, 02:21 PM
dayum only 1 vote in it

A.Mopp
02-26-2010, 03:17 PM
ZOMGzzzzzz LeKobe is amazingzzzzz

Give me a well rounded team any day of the week. especially one that has the combo off offense/defense and actually has a bench.

spurs for me

Phool™
02-26-2010, 03:19 PM
Spurs win

Young2Kinsler
02-26-2010, 03:25 PM
Spurs without a doubt. Yes Kobe and Lebron are great, but the Lakers bench amounts to about half a pile of poop. Gooden and Fischer are some of the worst starters I've seen in this simulation, with depth and a better overall team.. Spurs in 6

Agar81
02-26-2010, 04:02 PM
I have the Spurs in 7

KnicksorBust
02-26-2010, 04:29 PM
Lakers. With LeBron guarding Parker, the edge that Duncan has over Bynum is not as great as LeBron/Kobe over the Spurs perimeter players.

BlondeBomber41
02-26-2010, 04:39 PM
Lakers. With LeBron guarding Parker, the edge that Duncan has over Bynum is not as great as LeBron/Kobe over the Spurs perimeter players.

Why do people think Lebron would be able to stop Tony Parker? Lebron is fast for his size but Parker is one of the fastest players in the NBA period.

iHoop
02-26-2010, 04:58 PM
Spurs would win this series due to the fact that LeBron will have the ball in his hands majority of the time. Now we all know that you can't stop Kobe or LeBron straight up but knowing that Ronnie Brewer is a good off the ball defender he can limit the touches that Kobe would get (my opinion). Then Duncan/Battier/Parker could play defense on LeBron when he drives to the paint. Also knowing that the Lakers have a horrible bench the Spurs can get quality play from their bench and could put up some nice numbers.

BlondeBomber41
02-26-2010, 05:07 PM
Can I change my vote.

I didnt actually see Manu was still on the Spurs.

Noted. Makes it currently 34-29 San Antonio.

Sportfan
02-26-2010, 05:13 PM
Spurs. Battier is a top 3 defender in this league and won let Lebron crack 25. Im not a fan of brewer so I think Kobe will have some great games, but it doesn't fill the effect of Parker and Duncan destroying Fisher and Gooden

Reyes6
02-26-2010, 05:13 PM
I'm worried about the Spurs offense, but not as much as I am the depth of the Lakers. Bynum playing 40+ a night? Injured by game 3. Plus the Lakers paint would be dominated by Duncan, although I don't like Okur for the Spurs... I think they should've tried to get a 7' or athletic young center like JaVale McGee.

But overall if the Lakers had Kobe+Howard or LeBron+Howard my vote would probably change. And LeBron and Kobe are the 2 best players in the league, but last time I checked... neither play C and the balance isn't there for me.

Spurs.

KnicksorBust
02-26-2010, 05:44 PM
Why do people think Lebron would be able to stop Tony Parker? Lebron is fast for his size but Parker is one of the fastest players in the NBA period.

I'll take Parker in a sprint but if Parker has to dribble a basketball and make sure LeBron doesn't swat him from behind... that advantage goes away.


Spurs. Battier is a top 3 defender in this league and won let Lebron crack 25. Im not a fan of brewer so I think Kobe will have some great games, but it doesn't fill the effect of Parker and Duncan destroying Fisher and Gooden

It's a shame really because I like nothing more than someone like Battier getting credit... unfortunately this post is absurd. Especially considering how in their two matchups this season LeBron scored over 25 points in both games including a 29 point in 29 minute performance. That's just abuse.

astrosmaniac
02-26-2010, 09:46 PM
I'll take Parker in a sprint but if Parker has to dribble a basketball and make sure LeBron doesn't swat him from behind... that advantage goes away.



It's a shame really because I like nothing more than someone like Battier getting credit... unfortunately this post is absurd. Especially considering how in their two matchups this season LeBron scored over 25 points in both games including a 29 point in 29 minute performance. That's just abuse.

you have to account for the team around him. this season battier doesnt have a presence in the post to help on drives and penetration. duncan gives him what yao usually does

Ragun
02-26-2010, 09:50 PM
ZOMGzzzzzz LeKobe is amazingzzzzz

Give me a well rounded team any day of the week. especially one that has the combo off offense/defense and actually has a bench.

spurs for me

last time i checked, kobe and lebron can play d too.

td0tsfinest
02-26-2010, 10:04 PM
Kobe and Lebron Together Again and perfect harmony.

chicago's jewel
02-26-2010, 10:20 PM
man there are some major laker haters in the air. lebron and kobe bryant on the same team???? add bynum to the mix and are you kidding me? nba is a superstars league and this team has the two best players on the planet. anyone who doesn't think the lakers would steamroll through the playoffs without losing a game is effin stupid. look at the lakers teams of the early 2000's. other than shaq and kobe, they had who? fox, horry, george, shaw and a bunch of other role players. nobody special. lebron can get to the finals with his garbage cleveland team, what makes you think a team with kobe and lebron wouldn't do the same.

DaddyCool
02-26-2010, 10:40 PM
Closes in less than an hour. Get your votes in and maybe you could be the deciding vote!

BlondeBomber41
02-26-2010, 11:35 PM
Victory! Good series FC, very close.