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avrpatsfan
02-21-2010, 01:16 PM
Mods delete this thread if there is already one, but I wanted to post my 2010 free agent predictions and let you do it too. Have fun!

Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: New York
Amare Stoudemire: Phoenix
Joe Johnson: Miami
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)
Carlos Boozer: Jazz
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics (takes paycut)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Nuggets
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

Sorry if this is duplicate. I saw some but they were just "Lebron is going to NY/Chicago free agent prediction threads and they are annoying. Lebron will stay.

Robbw241
02-21-2010, 01:26 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Chicago
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: Atlanta
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Heat(No idea why just would be interesting)
Carlos Boozer: Nets (pray)
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Clippers
Josh Howard: Nets?
Nate Robinson: Somewhere where he can start
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

avrpatsfan
02-21-2010, 01:28 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Chicago
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: Atlanta
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Heat(No idea why just would be interesting)
Carlos Boozer: Nets (pray)
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Clippers
Josh Howard: Nets?
Nate Robinson: Somewhere where he can start
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

I think McGrady will stay with the Knicks. He was great in his debut and personally said that we would and people should take a paycut to be able to play for the Knicks, so I think he will sign with the Knicks.

Jack of Blades
02-21-2010, 01:28 PM
Yeah I'm thinking JHo goes to the Nets.

JerzeyFresh
02-21-2010, 01:39 PM
Lebron James: Cavs
Dwayne Wade: Bulls
Chris Bosh: Bulls
Amare Stoudemire: Knicks
Joe Johnson: Nets
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: no clue
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Nets
Marcus Camby: Knicks
Ray Allen:Cavs(Perfect player to put next to Lebron)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: no clue
Josh Howard: Knicks
Nate Robinson: no nlue
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

Agar81
02-21-2010, 01:57 PM
Lebron James: Cavs
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Miami
Amare Stoudemire: Knicks
Joe Johnson: Celtics
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Nets
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Jazz
Marcus Camby: Clippers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: No Idea (he might be done for his career with the injury)
Josh Howard: Clippers
Nate Robinson: Nets
Shaq: Retired
Brandon Roy: Blazers

masalex1205
02-21-2010, 01:59 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Chicago
Chris Bosh: New York
Amare Stoudemire: Phoenix
Joe Johnson: New York
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks (don't think he's a freee agent?)
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Bulls
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Cavs
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Knicks (I dunno, think itd be perfect though)
Brandon Roy: Blazers (don't think he's a free agent)

so NY:gets Joe Johnson and BOsh

I think that Chicago is the real dark horse and have a real shot at getting Wade. If I was Lebron the only other place I consider going is Chicago. I mean Rose will be a max guy eventually plus they've got some good young pieces like Noah and Gibson.

masalex1205
02-21-2010, 02:00 PM
interesting that people have Shaq reupping w/ Cleveland

jimbobjarree
02-21-2010, 02:01 PM
Brandon Roy signed a 4 year extension before this season and Josh Smith expires in 2013

SaimoNETS
02-21-2010, 02:10 PM
Ew, I don't want J.Howard on the Nets. :puke:

deuces
02-21-2010, 02:28 PM
chris bosh is staying in toronto

HammerHead1
02-21-2010, 02:34 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Chicago
Chris Bosh: New York
Amare Stoudemire: New Jersey
Joe Johnson: Atlanta
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Houston
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: New York
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: New Jersey
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: -

Agar81
02-21-2010, 02:39 PM
hammerhead you have too many people going to New York IMO. Getting Bosh and Boozer by itself is alot of cash, and keeping McGrady would make sense if he took a large pay cut. However, I don't see Lee going back there. He can go somewhere where he will start as opposed to being on a team with 3 All Star Bigs...

ko8e24
02-21-2010, 02:39 PM
Yay, the same 49th thread this month :clap:

Kobe is going to the T'wolves to help Kurt Rambis run the triangle offense, LeBron is going to the Clippers to be with that great organization, Wade is going to the Spurs, Shaq is going back to the Lakers and gonna avg 40ppg+ and 20rpg+ at the age of 38, and everybody else on that list is going to the Knicks since they have so much caproom.

/thread

JerzeyFresh
02-21-2010, 02:48 PM
Yay, the same 49th thread this month :clap:

Kobe is going to the T'wolves to help Kurt Rambis run the triangle offense, LeBron is going to the Clippers to be with that great organization, Wade is going to the Spurs, Shaq is going back to the Lakers and gonna avg 40ppg+ and 20rpg+ at the age of 38, and everybody else on that list is going to the Knicks since they have so much caproom.

/thread

agreed but someone should probably ban him^ for being a witch

avrpatsfan
02-21-2010, 02:50 PM
Yay, the same 49th thread this month :clap:

Kobe is going to the T'wolves to help Kurt Rambis run the triangle offense, LeBron is going to the Clippers to be with that great organization, Wade is going to the Spurs, Shaq is going back to the Lakers and gonna avg 40ppg+ and 20rpg+ at the age of 38, and everybody else on that list is going to the Knicks since they have so much caproom.

/thread

Sorry. All of the threads I saw were saying how New York and Chicago were going to get Lebron James and Dwayne Wade. This thread is straight up realistic predictions.

DR. Pepper
02-21-2010, 02:59 PM
Lebron James: Heat
Dwayne Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Bulls
Amare Stoudemire: Knicks
Joe Johnson: Mavs
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Blazers
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Heat
Marcus Camby: Nuggets
Ray Allen: Bulls
Manu Ginobili: Cavs
Michael Redd: Celtics
Josh Howard: Nets
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Retire?
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Paul Pierce- Celtics

winners- Heat, Bulls, Mavs
losers-Knicks, Nets, Hawks

MU and UW Fan
02-21-2010, 03:14 PM
Michael Redd has an 18 million player option next year. he's not going anywhere, sadly.

knickerbockerny
02-21-2010, 03:17 PM
Lebron James: New York
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Miami
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: Atlanta
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Chicago
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)
Carlos Boozer: Nets
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics (takes paycut)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: don't know
Josh Howard: Chicago
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Retired
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Rudy Gay: Nets

Big Winners Knicks, Miami and Nets
Losers: none

With all that said there is no way the Knicks do not get one of either Bosh or Amare and one of either Wade/James/Gay/Johnson with T-Mac coming back for a short.

Possible sign and trades may also complicate things. Also for all those saying Lebron wont leave because he is winning and happy. Once upon a time Shaq left a happy situation in a small market in Orlando to come to a rebuilding major market situation. The rest is history

ko8e24
02-21-2010, 03:24 PM
Sorry. All of the threads I saw were saying how New York and Chicago were going to get Lebron James and Dwayne Wade. This thread is straight up realistic predictions.

I was givin you a hard time. Nothing else. It's cool.

jim51990
02-21-2010, 03:57 PM
Lebron James: New jersey
Dwayne Wade: New York
Chris Bosh: New Jersey
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: Boston
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Chicago
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)
Carlos Boozer: Miami
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Bucks
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Josh Howard: Chicago
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Rudy Gay: Memphis

nuggetsyankees
02-21-2010, 04:18 PM
I'm gonna say Wade goes to NJ/CHI, Lebron stays in CLE, Bosh goes to NJ/CHI, Amare goes to Miami and the Nuggets get no one sadly...again

THE MTL
02-21-2010, 04:20 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Knicks
Amare Stoudemire: Heat or Bulls
Joe Johnson: Knicks
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets (not opting out)
David Lee: Suns (I like this alot)
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Bulls or Heat
Marcus Camby: Celtics?? (it follows the trend of the Celtic players)
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bucks (not opting out)
Josh Howard: Celtics/Magic/Cavs (LMAO)
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cleveland
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Paul Pierce: Celtics
Rudy Gay: Nets (on a near MAX contract)

EVERYONE WINS except ATL and Utah I suppose :/

sargon21
02-21-2010, 10:53 PM
why would chris bosh go and play on a **** team?

i think he's gotta a better chance goin to chi wit drose than mia wit dwade, cuz the bulls run will last longer

avrpatsfan
02-21-2010, 10:55 PM
why would chris bosh go and play on a **** team?

i think he's gotta a better chance goin to chi wit drose than mia wit dwade, cuz the bulls run will last longer

Uh, because he will probably play with David Lee, Tracy McGrady, and a potential 2nd superstar. :facepalm:

BradHolt4CYoung
02-21-2010, 10:59 PM
Why isn't rudy Gay on these lists?

NO WAY Wade stays in Miami.....NJ/NY/CHI

Bosh leaves....NY

Lebron STAYS.

Johnson goes to CHI/NJ


Gay..Lock for Nets.

FlakeyFool
02-22-2010, 12:06 AM
theres a problem with everyones list

Bosh isn't leaving :S

HeirCanada
02-22-2010, 12:12 AM
Lebron James: Toronto
Dwayne Wade: Toronto
Chris Bosh: Toronto
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: Atlanta
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Toronto
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Heat(No idea why just would be interesting)
Carlos Boozer: Nets (pray)
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Clippers
Josh Howard: Nets?
Nate Robinson: Somewhere where he can start
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

fixed.

SteveNash
02-22-2010, 12:16 AM
Jmes: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Toronto
Amare Stoudemire: Phoenix
Joe Johnson: Atlanta
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Bulls
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Knicks
Marcus Camby: T-Wolves
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bulls
Josh Howard: Sacramento
Nate Robinson: Nets
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

HeirCanada
02-22-2010, 12:27 AM
why would chris bosh go and play on a **** team?

i think he's gotta a better chance goin to chi wit drose than mia wit dwade, cuz the bulls run will last longer

Chris Bosh is staying in Toronto, because it's a bad market to sell his condo and because his hair fits in with our West Indian population. Dreadlock rasta.

rurichie
02-22-2010, 12:34 AM
Jmes: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Toronto
Amare Stoudemire: Phoenix
Joe Johnson: Atlanta
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Bulls
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Knicks
Marcus Camby: T-Wolves
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bulls
Josh Howard: Sacramento
Nate Robinson: Nets
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

There is no way the nets get Nate because we will have Devin Harris and John Wall there is no point and nets are only going after PF/SF and maybe a C and move Brook to PF but no need for nate

NYK_kidd77
02-22-2010, 12:52 AM
All the other teams in the league will sign someone except the knicks they are going to play with the same team as this year just to keep the rest of the nba happy

Ovratd1up
02-22-2010, 12:54 AM
The amount of brain cells wasted on this is frankly ridiculous. So I had to post this.

This is my interpretation of where the big 6 free agents (James, Bosh, Wade, Amare, Johnson, Wade) will go between the six big markets/teams (NY, NJ, Miami, Chicago, Cleveland, Toronto) in some sort of weird confusing logical manner.

Please tell me if you follow in the least bit.


-If Bosh stays in Toronto
........-Lebron will probably stay in Cleveland
........-Wade will decide signing with Chicago and getting Amaré
................*If Wade goes to Chicago
........................--Boozer could sign-&-trade to Chicago
................*If Wade gets Amaré
........................--Lebron will decide between signing with Chicago or NJ or NY
.................................*If Lebron goes to NJ or NY
........................................--Boozer or Johnson could follow him to NJ or NY
.........................................--Boozer or Johnson or both could sign with Chicago

-If Bosh goes to Miami
....... -Lebron will sign with Chicago or NJ or NY
............... *If Lebron goes to NJ or NY
........................--Amare or Boozer or Johnson could follow him to NJ or NY
.................................*If Amare or Boozer or Johnson follow him to NJ or NY
.........................................-Boozer, Johnson, and/or Amare will sign in Chicago
....... -Wade will stay in Miami

-If Bosh goes to Chicago
....... -Lebron could sign-&-trade to Chicago
.............. *If Lebron does not sign with Chicago
...................... --Wade could sign-&-trade to Chicago
.............................. *If Wade doesn't sign-&-trade to Chicago
...................................... --Johnson could sign-&-trade to Chicago
..................... --Lebron could stay in Cleveland or go to Miami, NJ, or NY
.............................. *If Lebron goes to Miami
...................................... --Amaré and Boozer could each go to one of NY or NJ
................................*If Lebron goes to NJ or NY or stays in Cleveland
........................................--Amaré, Johnson, or Boozer could sign with NJ or NY
................*If Lebron does sign with Chicago
........................--Amaré will go to Miami
................................*Boozer and/or Johnson could go to NJ and/or NY

-If Bosh goes to the Clippers
....... -Then we're all screwed

Is this far too oriented towards one franchise? I didn't consider David Lee, because I have no idea what he wants. Rudy Gay is going to either the Clippers or the Nets or simply staying in Memphis.

Flaws...

Did anyone read it? I hope not.

Oh, and if you must merge, merge.

HuRRiCaNeS324
02-22-2010, 12:54 AM
Lebron James: Clv
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Miami
Amare Stoudemire: Knicks
Joe Johnson: Hawks
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets (not opting out)
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (pay cut)
Carlos Boozer: Bulls
Marcus Camby: Portland
Ray Allen: Heat (pay cut)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bucks (not opting out)
Josh Howard: Nets
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Clv
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Paul Pierce: Celtics
Rudy Gay: Knicks

superkegger
02-22-2010, 01:00 AM
I'm pretty sure a sign and trade is out of the question for any of these guys.

ANd you're also saying that it is impossible that Wade, Bosh and LeBron all stay with their respective teams.

And why have you left Tmac out of the picture?

Ovratd1up
02-22-2010, 01:01 AM
I think I made room for that scenario if Bosh stays with Toronto, Bron stays with Cle, and Wade gets Amare to join him in Miami.

And why is a sign and trade out of the question? They're likely going to want max contracts.

I don't know what to make of T-Mac either. One game. Who's to say he won't average twelve points the rest of the year?

ldc62
02-22-2010, 01:04 AM
I think the big 3 (you know who they are) are going to stay with their teams. Unless Cavs get knocked out really early in the playoffs.

superkegger
02-22-2010, 01:04 AM
Why would Cleveland/Toronto/Miami help another team get their superstar? That makes no sense.

Ethix11
02-22-2010, 01:05 AM
Lebron James: Cavs
Dwayne Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Heat
Amare Stoudemire: Knicks
Joe Johnson: Knicks
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets (not opting out)
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (pay cut)
Carlos Boozer: Bulls
Marcus Camby: Heat
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bucks (not opting out)
Josh Howard: Nets
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cleveland
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Paul Pierce: Celtics
Rudy Gay: Nets
Raymond Felton:Heat

What people must fathom: Bulls can only sign 1 max free agent. Wade stays in Miami with their enormous amount of cap space and 2 max free agents. Beasley is younger than Rose so how does the Bulls run last longer? Wade says he does not want to be a Knick.

kozelkid
02-22-2010, 01:06 AM
Why would Cleveland/Toronto/Miami help another team get their superstar? That makes no sense.

Because they either lose them for nothing or get something...

SA5195
02-22-2010, 01:07 AM
Everyone is coming to Toronto, book it!

I'm joking.

But seriously, i'm getting tired of 2010 FA class thing.

Most guys don't even know where they're going, so how could we possibly now?

Ovratd1up
02-22-2010, 01:09 AM
I have knowledge from sources within Chris Bosh's brain which he doesn't know about yet.

superkegger
02-22-2010, 01:14 AM
Because they either lose them for nothing or get something...

I understand that sentiment, but a sign and trade would only be necessary for a team without the cap room to sign bron/wade/bosh.

so the only leverage bron/wade/bosh would to try a sign and trade have would be that they would leave to go the team they're trying to get traded to for less than max money, or to NY or NJ to a **** team.

And I highly ****ing dought bron/wade/bosh will be taking less than a max deal.

NYK_kidd77
02-22-2010, 01:15 AM
Everyone is coming to Toronto, book it!

I'm joking.

But seriously, i'm getting tired of 2010 FA class thing.

Most guys don't even know where they're going, so how could we possibly now?

No idea many of them have even stated they dont know lol but every knows New York will get only bums for some reason.

Ovratd1up
02-22-2010, 01:18 AM
If you mean Joe Johnson and Amare are bums... oh, you were waiting for me to say Felton. You get him too.

DaoudS
02-22-2010, 01:18 AM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Toronto
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: New York
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Los Angelas
David Lee: New Jersey
Tracy McGrady: New York
Carlos Boozer: Chicago
Marcus Camby: Miami
Ray Allen: Boston
Manu Ginobili: San Antonio
Josh Howard: Not sure - some place for the MLE.
Nate Robinson:Chicago? Not really sure.
Shaq: Retired - if the Cavs win it all this year.
Paul Pierce: Boston
Rudy Gay: New Jersey

NYK_kidd77
02-22-2010, 01:20 AM
If you mean Joe Johnson and Amare are bums... oh, you were waiting for me to say Felton. You get him too.

No Joe Johnson isn't but i really would hate Amare

SteveNash
02-22-2010, 01:21 AM
There is no way the nets get Nate because we will have Devin Harris and John Wall there is no point and nets are only going after PF/SF and maybe a C and move Brook to PF but no need for nate

Nets have a greater than 75% chance of them NOT getting Wall.

Ethix11
02-22-2010, 01:27 AM
Maybe..just maybe..LeBron could go to Sacramento and be the King of the Kings and Wade goes to the Clips and Bosh goes to New York and Stat goes to Toronto

knickerbockerny
02-22-2010, 01:29 AM
Once Lebron signs with the Knicks the rest of the chips will fall.

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02-22-2010, 01:36 AM
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knickerbockerny
02-22-2010, 01:40 AM
Lebron James: Cavs
Dwayne Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Heat
Amare Stoudemire: Knicks
Joe Johnson: Knicks
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets (not opting out)
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (pay cut)
Carlos Boozer: Bulls
Marcus Camby: Heat
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bucks (not opting out)
Josh Howard: Nets
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cleveland
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Paul Pierce: Celtics
Rudy Gay: Nets
Raymond Felton:Heat

What people must fathom: Bulls can only sign 1 max free agent. Wade stays in Miami with their enormous amount of cap space and 2 max free agents. Beasley is younger than Rose so how does the Bulls run last longer? Wade says he does not want to be a Knick.

I've watched a couple of Heat games. Wade looks far from happy out there. The Heat are even having trouble selling out the arena. It's probably 50-50 between Miami and Chicago for Wade's services. I doubt potential free agents consider Miami before New York! Highly doubt it!

vash9
02-22-2010, 01:47 AM
There is no way the nets get Nate because we will have Devin Harris and John Wall there is no point and nets are only going after PF/SF and maybe a C and move Brook to PF but no need for nate
There's no sure thing we're going to get Wall, but i hope so. We're not going to get Nate. there's no point. There's not point moving Brook to a PF. You are an idiot if you want Brook as a PF. He's beast at center, let him be.

anyways:

Lebron James: Bulls
Dwayne Wade: Bulls
Chris Bosh: Bulls
Amare Stoudemire:Bulls
Joe Johnson: Bulls
Dirk Nowitzki: Bulls
Kobe Bryant: Bulls
Yao Ming: Bulls
Josh Smith: Bulls
David Lee: Bulls
Tracy McGrady: Bulls
Carlos Boozer: Bulls
Marcus Camby: Bulls
Ray Allen: Bulls
Manu Ginobili: Bulls
Michael Redd: Bulls
Josh Howard: Bulls
Nate Robinson: Bulls
Shaq: Bulls
Brandon Roy: Bulls

if you ask me, i think i got it pretty on spot.

Raph12
02-22-2010, 01:58 AM
Lebron James: New York
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Toronto
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: Atlanta
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Los Angeles Lakers
Yao Ming: Houston
Josh Smith: Atlanta
David Lee: New Jersey
Tracy McGrady: New Jersey
Carlos Boozer: Miami
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Boston
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Brandon Roy: Portland
Michael Redd: Retirement
Shaq: Retirement
Josh Howard: Idk
Nate Robinson: Idk

OREcoast49er
02-22-2010, 02:35 AM
I was just curious, why does no one hav Sacto landing ant FAs? I dont follow Bball like I do football, but isnt Sac one of only a few teams that can offer a Max deal next year? Money talks. I think someone will be fine living in Norcal and get a max deal. Its better than taking less money elsewhere

Can-I-Live
02-22-2010, 03:08 AM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: miami
Chris Bosh: pri*ks
Amare Stoudemire: miami
Joe Johnson: chicago
Dirk Nowitzki: mavs
Kobe Bryant: lakers
Yao Ming: rockets
David Lee: nj
Tracy McGrady: pri*ks
Carlos Boozer: chicago
Marcus Camby: washington
Ray Allen: warriors (ellis traded)
Manu Ginobili: spurs
Michael Redd: idk
Josh Howard: miami
Nate Robinson: clippers
Shaq: - retire
Rudy gay: memphis

sargon21
02-22-2010, 03:11 AM
this is pretty impressive

jskeet23
02-22-2010, 03:21 AM
Because they either lose them for nothing or get something...
bull fans their a reason yall suck so long nobody wants to play in mj house when you think of bulls all you can think of mj it cant get no better maybe joe johnson may go but thats it

JOSKOMANG4
02-22-2010, 12:11 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland

- 3yr 60million.

Dwayne Wade: Bulls

- Max contract(17.8million).

Chris Bosh: Toronto(exercises player option).

Amare Stoudemire: Knicks

- Max contract(17.8million).

Joe Johnson: Knicks

- 5yr 80mill(16 million per season).

Dirk Nowitzki: Mavericks(exercises player option).

Kobe Bryant: Lakers(exercises option).

Yao Ming: Rockets(exercises player option).

David Lee: Knicks(Then a Sign & Trade to Chicago to get Kirk Hinrich).

- 5yr 50 million(10 per season).

Tracy McGrady: Knicks re-up.

- If he says he isnt for the money.. I say 2yr 12 million.

Carlos Boozer: Nets.

- I say 5yr 70million.

Manu Ginobili: Spurs

- Sign Mid-level exception.

Josh Howard: Raptors

- Signs Mid-level exception.

Nate Robinson: Celtics

- Mid-level exception.

Shaq: Cavs(exercises his player option).

Brandon Roy: Blazers( He already resigned).

Rudy Gay: Hawks

- 5yr 50million; replaces Joe Johnson.

Side Notes:

I know ppl are going to look at mine & say..

They can't afford to sign A'Mare, Johnson, & Lee(who then is traded for Hinrich).

- i'm thinking.. maybe.. JUST MAYBE.. they can trade Curry(who'll exercise his contract next season) and trade him for picks & a team looking to have a productive veteran C with an expiring contract..

Maybe OKC

akay47
02-22-2010, 12:29 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Heat
Amare Stoudemire: New York (D'Antoni)
Joe Johnson: Cleveland
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Not a Free Agent
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Thunder
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Kings
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bucks
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Houston
Shaq: Paycut to re-sign with Cavs
Brandon Roy: Not a Free Agent

Knickrocketsfan
02-22-2010, 12:32 PM
Lebron wade and tmac- knicks

uncleben989
02-22-2010, 12:34 PM
lol it amazes me about how much ppl are firmly convinced bosh is leavin toronto, its gonna be fun to see all the reaction of bulls fans, heat fans and knick fans when bosh signs with toronto:D

Tmac,lt,berkman
02-22-2010, 12:50 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Heat
Amare Stoudemire: New York (D'Antoni)
Joe Johnson: Cleveland
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Not a Free Agent
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Thunder
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Kings
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bucks
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Houston
Shaq: Paycut to re-sign with Cavs
Brandon Roy: Not a Free Agent

you think nate robinson will sign with the rockets why you think that?

scandaless2
02-22-2010, 12:58 PM
if Bosh stays in toronto he will never win a ring.... no max FA wants to go to toronto on they own free will... it can only be done by a trade ... if hes ok with that then yeah hell stay...

thescore53
02-22-2010, 01:18 PM
if Bosh stays in toronto he will never win a ring.... no max FA wants to go to toronto on they own free will... it can only be done by a trade ... if hes ok with that then yeah hell stay...

so your saying if the raptors become a pernneial 55 win team and it is known around the leauge that they are 1 piece away from a championship and we have cap room one year theres still no way in hell a max fa sgns here and that free agent would rather sign with the nets

RDBK514
02-22-2010, 01:23 PM
Lebron James: Knicks
Dwayne Wade: Bulls
Chris Bosh: Raptors
Amare Stoudemire: Bulls
Joe Johnson: Knicks
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Nets
Marcus Camby: Heat
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bucks
Josh Howard: Nets
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cleveland
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Paul Pierce: Celtics
Rudy Gay: Heat
Raymond Felton: Knicks

DaBUU
02-22-2010, 01:37 PM
Lebron James: Cavs
Dwayne Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Heat
Amare Stoudemire: Knicks
Joe Johnson: Knicks
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets (not opting out)
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (pay cut)
Carlos Boozer: Bulls
Marcus Camby: Heat
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bucks (not opting out)
Josh Howard: Nets
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cleveland
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Paul Pierce: Celtics
Rudy Gay: Nets
Raymond Felton:Heat

What people must fathom: Bulls can only sign 1 max free agent. Wade stays in Miami with their enormous amount of cap space and 2 max free agents. Beasley is younger than Rose so how does the Bulls run last longer? Wade says he does not want to be a Knick.

I dont know who the hell were getting, but I love Heat fans still talking about Beasley in the same breath as Derrick Rose, funny.

scandaless2
02-22-2010, 01:52 PM
so your saying if the raptors become a pernneial 55 win team and it is known around the leauge that they are 1 piece away from a championship and we have cap room one year theres still no way in hell a max fa sgns here and that free agent would rather sign with the nets

:clap:

thescore53
02-22-2010, 02:03 PM
:clap:

w\e man it your opinion i dont know why any one would want to play in a realatively safe, clean,diverse,big city like toronto

hvg
02-22-2010, 02:14 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Chicago
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: New York
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Raptors
Tracy McGrady: Hawks (after they lose JJ and want a cheaper replacement)
Carlos Boozer: Miami
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Nuggets/Celtics/other contender for cheap
Josh Howard: Nets
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

I realized after doing this, Nets seem to be at the worst risk of being the big losers this summer.

PatsSoxKnicks
02-22-2010, 02:23 PM
Lebron James: Cavs
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Miami
Amare Stoudemire: Knicks
Joe Johnson: Celtics
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Nets
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Jazz
Marcus Camby: Clippers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: No Idea (he might be done for his career with the injury)
Josh Howard: Clippers
Nate Robinson: Nets
Shaq: Retired
Brandon Roy: Blazers

I'm pretty sure the Celtics are over the cap. So how do you expect the Celtics to sign Johnson? Please don't say he's going to take a very large paycut (like accepting the mid level exception) because that is just extremely unrealistic.

JordansBulls
02-22-2010, 02:26 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Chicago
Chris Bosh: Toronto
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: Toronto
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Magic
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Clippers
Josh Howard: Nets?
Nate Robinson: Boston
Shaq: Retired
Brandon Roy: Blazers

PatsSoxKnicks
02-22-2010, 02:28 PM
Sorry. All of the threads I saw were saying how New York and Chicago were going to get Lebron James and Dwayne Wade. This thread is straight up realistic predictions.

How is it unrealistic to say that Lebron or Wade end up in Chicago or New York? Both teams have cap room and both have the ability to sign Lebron or Wade. The knicks have cap space for 2 max FAs. I'll admit its unlikely that the Knicks get either Lebron or Wade but to say its unrealistic is stupid. There's a chance that Chicago or NY get either Wade or Lebron.

AK-50
02-22-2010, 02:35 PM
if Bosh stays in toronto he will never win a ring.... no max FA wants to go to toronto on they own free will... it can only be done by a trade ... if hes ok with that then yeah hell stay...

ok so you established the Raps not winning a ring so when do you expect the bulls to win? and i like how you know that nobody wants to sign here because we're just a small market and nobody likes it here :facepalm:

saintdrew
02-22-2010, 02:49 PM
new orleans hornets will get chris bosh. mark my words.

Itown in Cali
02-22-2010, 03:02 PM
Just some comments as a Knicks fan...

- Why would the Knicks sign both Boozer and Lee? No way...not going to happen...makes no sense whatsoever.

- I doubt Amare comes to NY. I don't think Dantoni liked him. It is possible the Knicks showed no interest at the trade deadline because Amare could opt in at higher than league max next year, but i still think there are other reasons.

Tmac can not be signed at the mid-level exception because the Knicks will need to give up there mid-level until next year.

I don't think we can really trust anything Wade or Lebron say at the moment...they may not even know the answer themselves, but they are definitely not saying anything real.

Why would the Knicks sign Tmac and Joe Johnson (see Lee & Boozer above).

Camby seemed really pissed to have to move his family to Portland (due to the move not location). I would be surprised if Camby decided to move again. I think he will sign with Portland or Clipper at the mid-level.

I wish we could land Lebron and/or Wade... but my actual prediction is:

Bosh, Lee, Tmac, Sergio, then trade Curry for either an athletic defensive minded center or a PG after Minn, NJ, or GS pick Wall and decide to trade some of their PGs.

Melo15
02-22-2010, 03:09 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: New York
Chris Bosh: Chicago
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: Miami
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Oklahoma City
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Miami
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Bucks
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cavaliers
Brandon Roy: Blazers

Draco
02-22-2010, 03:12 PM
if Bosh stays in toronto he will never win a ring.... no max FA wants to go to toronto on they own free will... it can only be done by a trade ... if hes ok with that then yeah hell stay...

$30 mil is the price a player pays to get out of TO. ;)

uncleben989
02-22-2010, 03:15 PM
if Bosh stays in toronto he will never win a ring.... no max FA wants to go to toronto on they own free will... it can only be done by a trade ... if hes ok with that then yeah hell stay...

ya because everu max FA is dying to be part of the winning tradition that is the post-jordan bulls :facepalm:

Stunner
02-22-2010, 03:20 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland/Knicks/Nets/Clippers/Chicago
Dwayne Wade: Miami/Chicago
Chris Bosh: Chicago/Heat/Knicks
Amare Stoudemire: Phoenix/Heat/Knicks/Bulls
Joe Johnson: Chicago/Knicks
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Knicks/Thunder
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)/Heat/Cavs/Lakers
Carlos Boozer: Jazz/Bulls/Knicks
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics (takes paycut)
Manu Ginobili: Celtics or stay with Spurs but most likely another team
Michael Redd: Bucks are traded
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: who cares
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Rudy Gay-Nets/Knicks

rapjuicer06
02-22-2010, 03:37 PM
dwayne wade will not go to chicago. him and drose would be a horrible pair together. dwade goes somewhere with a dominant big

Dpop07
02-22-2010, 03:58 PM
Lebron James: New York
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Miami
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: Atlanta
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Chicago
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)
Carlos Boozer: Nets
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics (takes paycut)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: don't know
Josh Howard: Chicago
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Retired
Brandon Roy: Blazers
Rudy Gay: Nets

Big Winners Knicks, Miami and Nets
Losers: none

With all that said there is no way the Knicks do not get one of either Bosh or Amare and one of either Wade/James/Gay/Johnson with T-Mac coming back for a short.

Possible sign and trades may also complicate things. Also for all those saying Lebron wont leave because he is winning and happy. Once upon a time Shaq left a happy situation in a small market in Orlando to come to a rebuilding major market situation. The rest is history

Nice shaq reference! even tho him and penny weren't getting along i like the comparison. but if cleveland wins a title he stays...shaq wasn't in that position

Bosoxfan11
02-22-2010, 04:01 PM
Lebron James: Clippers (Stays if he gets a ring)
Dwayne Wade: Miami (Chi if they miss the playoffs)
Chris Bosh: Toronto
Amare Stoudemire: NY
Joe Johnson: NY/Mia depending on what Wade does
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Thunder
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)
Carlos Boozer: Jazz
Marcus Camby: Celtics (MLE)
Ray Allen: Celtics (takes paycut)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Nuggets
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson:
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

RaysFan
02-22-2010, 04:06 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Toronto
Amare Stoudemire: Miami
Joe Johnson: New York
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: New York
Tracy McGrady: New York
Carlos Boozer: Chicago
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Boston
Manu Ginobili: Cleveland
Michael Redd: Milwaukee
Josh Howard: Utah
Nate Robinson: Boston
Shaq: Cleveland
Brandon Roy: Portland
Rudy Gay: Clippers

thescore53
02-22-2010, 04:11 PM
Lebron James: Clippers (Stays if he gets a ring)
Dwayne Wade: Miami (Chi if they miss the playoffs)
Chris Bosh: Toronto
Amare Stoudemire: NY
Joe Johnson: NY/Mia depending on what Wade does
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Thunder
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)
Carlos Boozer: Jazz
Marcus Camby: Celtics (MLE)
Ray Allen: Celtics (takes paycut)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Nuggets
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson:
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

i think your the first non raptor fan to predict bosh stayiin

agree almost everything except lebron to clipper if he leaves clev he not going to a team where most of the fans are laker fans what happens of theirs a rivalry between both teams and they start boycotting clipper games

knickerbockerny
02-22-2010, 05:03 PM
Nice shaq reference! even tho him and penny weren't getting along i like the comparison. but if cleveland wins a title he stays...shaq wasn't in that position

Lebron was in the same exact position as Shaq in 1996. That year Shaq went to the Eastern Conference Finals and got swept by the eventually title winners Chicago Bulls. The year before the Magic got swept in the Finals.

Even though the Lakers made the playoffs that year and were bounced in the first round. They were pretty much rebuilding, with the lost of Magic Johnson and trading Divac for a pick.

Ovratd1up
02-22-2010, 05:40 PM
If you are Dwyane Wade, would you rather play in a market like Chicago in the shadow of MJ, or in Miami? I don't think they care that much about that (maybe Lebron) and even if Wade did, he would know that at least MJ's house was always full.

But I get what you mean. Why would Chris Bosh come play in MJ's shadow? Or Elton Brand's?

heathonater
02-22-2010, 06:51 PM
considering that most of these players have no idea where they will play next year, its all speculation at this point. it could be a crazy offseason though as there will be many star players becoming fa's this year.

daleja424
02-22-2010, 06:55 PM
so bosh... the third best player in the class... will determine what everyone does?!?

Ovratd1up
02-23-2010, 07:31 PM
Yup :). It makes sense, doesn't it?

Salzyberger
02-24-2010, 07:57 PM
As the summer closes in, the NBA Offseason may be the best of all time. Where will the top free agents land and what impact will they have on their respectful team?

Salzyberger
02-24-2010, 07:58 PM
Here are some players to comment on Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Lebron James, Carlso Boozer, Joe Johnson, and Amare Stoudemire, if you have any more please add.

RaptorizedKevin
02-24-2010, 09:17 PM
Maybe we shouldnt have these thread, because fans will get upset bout other peoples predictions. and this thread rally serve no purpose.

ko8e24
02-24-2010, 09:22 PM
Hi Salyzberger, welcome to PSD! :clap:

Now as far as this thread goes, you may not know this (but you will learn about it slowly), but there are several threads that are made for the summer of 2010 speculation thing everyday, and they eventually get closed, merged with another pre-existing thread, or moved (if targeted at a certain player of a particular team) by an NBA PSD Moderator.

But since you posted this, I'll try to say what I think will happen.

I think Dwyane Wade will end up as a member of the Chicago Bulls, LeBron James will sign with the New York Knicks, Chris Bosh will join LeBron with the Knicks, Amare Stoudemire will stay as a Phoenix Sun because he won't opt out of his contract.

Those are my predictions, and I can't really elaborate on what effect that will have on each player's respective teams.


And again, welcome to PSD man.

bigsams50
02-24-2010, 09:25 PM
LBJ-Cavs
Wade-Heat
Bosh-Knicks
Amare-Heat
Boozer-Bulls
Johnson-Knicks

Master Mind
02-24-2010, 10:00 PM
LBJ-Knicks
Wade-Heat
Bosh-Knicks
Amare-Heat
Boozer-Heat
Johnson-Bulls

HouRealCoach
02-24-2010, 10:13 PM
Bosh will go to OKC, Wade & Boozer will go to Chi, Amare will be in NYK, Gay - NJN... Thats what I hope

HouRealCoach
02-24-2010, 10:14 PM
LBJ-Knicks
Wade-Heat
Bosh-Knicks
Amare-Heat
Boozer-Heat
Johnson-Bulls

Amare, Wade, Boozer, and Beasley on the same squad huh?

rockets-fan
02-25-2010, 12:03 AM
bosh to houston(sign and trade in package including luis scola and shane)

todu82
02-25-2010, 05:27 AM
LBJ-Cavs
Wade-Bulls
Bosh-Bulls
Amare-Knicks
Boozer-Heat
Johnson-Heat

kEviN21
02-25-2010, 06:25 AM
LBJ-Knicks
Wade-Heat
Bosh-Nets
Amare-Knicks
Boozer-Bulls
Johnson-Knicks
Gay-Twolves

Cavs_Fan24
02-25-2010, 08:35 AM
Lebron-cavs
Wade-bulls
Bosh-raptors
Johnson-knicks
Boozer-knicks
Amare-new jersey

Bucsfan
02-25-2010, 10:22 AM
LBJ-Cavs
Wade-Bulls
Bosh-Bulls
Amare-Suns or knicks
Boozer-Jazz or knicks
Johnson-Nets or Clippers

Pharoe18
02-25-2010, 10:43 AM
LBJ - Heat
Wade - Heat
Bosh - Bulls
Amare - Knicks
Boozer - Jazz
Johnson - Knicks

king4day
02-25-2010, 10:45 AM
Not sure how well this thread is going to turn out since we get one like this every week or 2.
I'll say Lebron to Memphis, Wade to the Kings, Amar'e to the Bucks, and Bosh to 76ers.

kntresistheheat
02-25-2010, 11:05 AM
Everyone is going to sign with the heat, and we are going to start our own Dream Team:D


Wade
Lebron
Beasley
Amare
Bosh


All Jokes aside, No one really knows? Lets just wait until the season is over and then we will find out:D

Lindystud36
02-25-2010, 11:41 AM
JJ Redick to the heat!

Wilson
02-25-2010, 03:35 PM
Please remember to keep your 2010 Free Agency predictions in here guys, rather than creating new threads :cheers:

MetsJets0809
02-28-2010, 10:17 AM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: New York
Chris Bosh: New York
Amare Stoudemire: Miami
Joe Johnson: Bulls
Dirk Nowitzki: Nets
David Lee: OKC
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (pay cut)
Carlos Boozer: Bulls
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics
Manu Ginobili: Heat
Michael Redd: Bucks
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cavaliers

jimbobjarree
02-28-2010, 01:04 PM
I have no idea where Boozer goes...New Jersey?

christexaport
03-01-2010, 04:04 PM
It is summer, 2010? Bosh, Wade, and Lebron have ended their seasons without rings, and both plan to move on. They know they can leap to Chi, NY, or NJ, or maybe go to Mia and try to attract another max talent to join them in quest for a world title.

But if they just leave, they not only gut their former team's fan base, losing their star with nothing in return, but leave an extra contract year and $17-25 mil in earnings on the table. Do they bolt and leave that cash on the table, or not?

I'm not them, but I know what most smart players and good agents would suggest. In the name of fiscal common sense and appreciation for the organization whose fans have supported them, they seek a sign and trade with a team they feel offers them the best opportunity to win and build a legacy.

So NY, NJ, Chi, Mia, and even Sac work to create packages for a sign and trade to acquire one of the big megastars. They'll need to send expiring contracts, premum prime talent, picks, and/or young promising players in return for any reasonable deal.

But a wildcard enters the scene. Dallas offers Dampier (expiring contract for cap relief), Butler (29 yr. old All Star in his prime, but most importantly, in the final year of his deal), Beaubois (young, speedy, athletic, scoring PG and lengthy defender), plus picks and cash for either Wade or James. Cuban touts how either can play for the second winningest team of the last decade with the second longest playoff streak in the league, in an internationally exposed sports market, with a Sixth Man of the Year, a former MVP and two future HOFers and Dirk and Kidd. They have the center of the near future in place, and an owner committed to winning with the second largest payrolled team in the league.

They go public and let Mia and Cle compete for this package. Cle is willing to let them keep the picks and the cash, while Mia is keen on letting them keep Beaubois and a smaller cash kicker. Either way, Dallas seems to be in control.

What can NY, NJ, Chi, Mia, Sac, or anyone else counteroffer to the teams and their players? Or is this the best option? Please elaborate. Realistic deals only...

THE POLL QUESTION IS WHICH TEAM PRESENTS THE BEST AND MOST LIKELY OPPORTUNITY FOR BOSH, WADE, OR JAMES THIS SUMMER FREE AGENCY PERIOD?

VladTheImpaler
03-01-2010, 04:14 PM
Dampier and Najera's contracts aren't guaranteed for next season(I don't believe), so that's nearly $16 million in space they have available in a sign and trade type deal. Definitely makes them a darkhorse this offseason.

christexaport
03-01-2010, 04:19 PM
I see you get it. So now to whether folks think James and Wade just walk and screw Mia and Cle, or try to help them get some assets and win now...

Lu's Dynasty
03-01-2010, 04:27 PM
Wade should leave if they can only lure Amare to Miami. That is not enough to win it all. He can sign with Chicago. Chicago would still have the ability to make it work financially for them if they work a s+t with Toronto for Bosh. Rose and Wade and Bosh and probably still Noah on that team would be a title contender.

The money should not be as big a deal IMO as winning multiple titles. Not every team can afford to give up talent to do a s+t with one of Miami, Toronto, or Cleveland so it might just be in the interest of the big 3 to sign with a team and leave the money that they can make up over time and still have the core of the team they are signing with intact.

king4day
03-01-2010, 04:30 PM
eww not sure another team wouldn't do something like that (LA with Bynum) with a better package.

arkanian215
03-01-2010, 04:30 PM
Dampier and Najera's contracts aren't guaranteed for next season(I don't believe), so that's nearly $16 million in space they have available in a sign and trade type deal. Definitely makes them a darkhorse this offseason.

najera's entire contract is guaranteed despite what storytellers and other sites say. that was the main reason for trading him for shawne williams and kris humphries.
yeah i know, ridiculous contract.

Pierzynski4Prez
03-01-2010, 04:30 PM
Why is it just Dallas, why not any other team? If basically you are saying they can just do a S & T to go to a team that doesn't have the cap space, why is it only Dallas? Why not LA, Portland, SA, Phoenix, Denver, etc?

Southsideheat
03-01-2010, 04:32 PM
Lebron, Bosh, and Wade say "I'm leaving, and going to (whatever team). You can let me walk or S & T me for something in return."

Seems like the team doing the S & T has no leverage whatsoever, do it doesn't matter who has what to offer.

arkanian215
03-01-2010, 04:34 PM
It is summer, 2010? Bosh, Wade, and Lebron have ended their seasons without rings, and both plan to move on. They know they can leap to Chi, NY, or NJ, or maybe go to Mia and try to attract another max talent to join them in quest for a world title.

But if they just leave, they not only gut their former team's fan base, losing their star with nothing in return, but leave an extra contract year and $17-25 mil in earnings on the table. Do they bolt and leave that cash on the table, or not?

I'm not them, but I know what most smart players and good agents would suggest. In the name of fiscal common sense and appreciation for the organization whose fans have supported them, they seek a sign and trade with a team they feel offers them the best opportunity to win and build a legacy.

So NY, NJ, Chi, Mia, and even Sac work to create packages for a sign and trade to acquire one of the big megastars. They'll need to send expiring contracts, premum prime talent, picks, and/or young promising players in return for any reasonable deal.

But a wildcard enters the scene. Dallas offers Dampier (expiring contract for cap relief), Butler (29 yr. old All Star in his prime, but most importantly, in the final year of his deal), Beaubois (young, speedy, athletic, scoring PG and lengthy defender), plus picks and cash for either Wade or James. Cuban touts how either can play for the second winningest team of the last decade with the second longest playoff streak in the league, in an internationally exposed sports market, with a Sixth Man of the Year, a former MVP and two future HOFers and Dirk and Kidd. They have the center of the near future in place, and an owner committed to winning with the second largest payrolled team in the league.

They go public and let Mia and Cle compete for this package. Cle is willing to let them keep the picks and the cash, while Mia is keen on letting them keep Beaubois and a smaller cash kicker. Either way, Dallas seems to be in control.

What can NY, NJ, Chi, Mia, Sac, or anyone else counteroffer to the teams and their players? Or is this the best option? Please elaborate. Realistic deals only...

THE POLL QUESTION IS WHICH TEAM PRESENTS THE BEST AND MOST LIKELY OPPORTUNITY FOR BOSH, WADE, OR JAMES THIS SUMMER FREE AGENCY PERIOD?butler is 29 man and will be 30 in march. he will only have one year left on his contract. that isn't much compared to what sacramento can offer.

arkanian215
03-01-2010, 04:35 PM
im surprised there's no clippers, blazers, pistons or wizards on there

Lu's Dynasty
03-01-2010, 04:40 PM
Lebron, Bosh, and Wade say "I'm leaving, and going to (whatever team). You can let me walk or S & T me for something in return."

Seems like the team doing the S & T has no leverage whatsoever, do it doesn't matter who has what to offer.

Exactly. I don't see a s+t happening unless it's Bosh or maybe Joe Johnson if it takes a while for the biggest 3 or 4 names to be signed to a new deal and JJ decides he could stay or go, but just wants to sign the biggest deal he can get. JJ won't have the same opportunity for endorsements unless he signs in NY or Chicago and that is all either team can sign in 2010.

It just makes sense to me that most if not all would opt out with the CBA up in the air come next July. Why not get that big contract signed now? It could be even less money than anything one could get now in an open market for some of these guys and over the course of a contract one would make more money than if they waited for next season to decide. They are all opting out I think. Where they end up I have no idea, but it seems possible that guys will be finding new places to play.

thephoenixson28
03-01-2010, 04:44 PM
If phoenix can unload richardsons and barbosa contract they would have the best oppurtunity. The emergence of lopez and dragic. We would be instant contenders with wade or lebron, and can have the money to spend for them. If amare signs a extension with the suns. I know I'm just dreaming but:

Pg.Nash
Sg.Wade
Sf.Hill
Pf.Amare
C.Lopez

Sign me up.

Hellcrooner
03-01-2010, 04:57 PM
What happens if Mavs get out at first or secound rounder gets fed up of it and opts out?

He can join Wade in the heat or James in cleveland or any of them in NY or CHicago

:D

JOSKOMANG4
03-01-2010, 05:16 PM
Dampier and Najera's contracts aren't guaranteed for next season(I don't believe), so that's nearly $16 million in space they have available in a sign and trade type deal. Definitely makes them a darkhorse this offseason.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

Najera's contract IS guaranteed... for not only just the 2010-2011 season, but 2011-2012 as well.

Same for Dampier...

Information is accordin to this site.. but LETS SAY.. what your saying is right..

The Salary cap will be roughly around 53.8 million.

W/o Counting Dampier & Najera.. and not even counting the player option for Dirk Nowitzki.. The Salary for the Mavericks would be around 52.6 million!

JOSKOMANG4
03-01-2010, 05:20 PM
I honestly believe Amar'e will opted out of his contract and get a max deal wit the Knicks.

Knicks will also lure Joe Johnson in.. 5yr 80 mill.

and if they play their cards right!!! Sign & trade with David Lee/Kirk Hinrich

Lineup:

C) A'Mare
PF)
SF) D.Gallanari/W.Chandler(6th man)
SG) J.Johnson/T.Douglass
PG) K.Hinrich/S.Rodriguez(resigned)

PF .. not so sure... bring in a veteran either a the MLE or a veterans minimal.

Draco
03-01-2010, 05:21 PM
A Mavs package that includes expirings would probably also need high draft picks and excellent young talent. High draft picks aren't a possibility here. If I'm Ferry, or Riley I'm looking at Caron's value more in terms of an expiring contract than young talent. It looked a lot better with the OPs typo of age 26 than it does age 29.

Dpop07
03-01-2010, 05:32 PM
Because of the NBA's weird rules reguarding trades and salary cap and what not, the mavs are in great shape to land a premier free agent. There is many misinformed people on this thread and you can be educated by reseaching the "DUST Chip". Or read it here:

http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=1810

sep11ie
03-01-2010, 05:36 PM
Can't forget Houston. 4 1st rounders in the next 3 years, Jeffries, Battier, David Anderson expirings, Kyle Lowry, Jordan Hill, Chase Buddinger, Jermaine Taylor...

Hellcrooner
03-01-2010, 05:39 PM
I gues 29 year old Butler holds more sign and trade value than say Bynum or Devin Harris for example

BlondeBomber41
03-01-2010, 05:44 PM
What happens if Mavs get out at first or secound rounder gets fed up of it and opts out?

He can join Wade in the heat or James in cleveland or any of them in NY or CHicago

:D

I know what you are trying to say but man, you sound like a freakin idiot. I hope its because you are foreign and you don't actually talk that way.

Lu's Dynasty
03-01-2010, 05:45 PM
The biggest names are all opting out i.e. LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Bosh and Amare. They will do it either to flat out leave because they don't believe they can win a title with their current team and want to still make more money than simply extending, which would be bad for them with the looming CBA situation OR they will opt out to get a new deal altogether. I think Kobe stays with the Lakers without a doubt. LeBron could leave. Wade should leave if all Miami can get to help him is Boozer or Amare. Amare will leave. Bosh will leave. That doesn't leave much room for a s+t at all involving the biggest FA names outside of Bosh. But if these guys want to leave they will just leave. Makes little sense to gut the team you want to go to and win titles. Otherwise why not stay with your current team in the first place if the extra money would be a major hangup.

These guys are looking for long-term deals at max level salaries. The max number of years might decrease by a few years under the next CBA. So bottom-line these players want to make the most money over a long-term deal under THIS CBA. It matters most what happens with LeBron followed by Bosh. Wade will make his mind up after those two are settled into new contracts. So, I don't see LeBron or Wade being s+t. Perhaps Bosh simply because I believe he will leave.

BlondeBomber41
03-01-2010, 05:51 PM
I gues 29 year old Butler holds more sign and trade value than say Bynum or Devin Harris for example

Once again you don't get what the original point is. Bravo.

The point is Lebron gets the say in where he goes. He isn't gonna wanna be sign and traded to a crappy Sacramento team or New Jersey team, and I doubt the Lakers even come up in the discussion.

The Mavericks have Damps instant expiring contract, which means the team that acquires it can literally waive him the day they acquire him and not pay a cent. Unlike normal expirings which still last an additional season.

So if Lebron or Wade or whoever decided they wanted to leave their current team but still wanted to contend, they wouldn't be able to do that in NYC or NJ or any of the teams with cap room... so a S&T to Dallas where he could play with Dirk and Jason Kidd (who Lebron loves) makes more sense than signing with the Knicks or some crap team.

Not saying it will happen, but its more logical than you wanna make it out to be.

Dpop07
03-01-2010, 05:52 PM
The point is that the mavs can offer a 6 year max level contract without giving up much if anything to the other team...with Dampier's contract alone Dallas can bring back over 16 million and they throw in one attractive player to the other team and it might suffice all parties. The other team just waives dampier and has NO OBLIGATION so they can go after another free agent with the money saved. S & T are difficult because the free agent chooses where to go with the other teams battle about compensation but this may be the perfect situation.

Dpop07
03-01-2010, 05:53 PM
Once again you don't get what the original point is. Bravo.

The point is Lebron gets the say in where he goes. He isn't gonna wanna be sign and traded to a crappy Sacramento team or New Jersey team, and I doubt the Lakers even come up in the discussion.

The Mavericks have Damps instant expiring contract, which means the team that acquires it can literally waive him the day they acquire him and not pay a cent. Unlike normal expirings which still last an additional season.

So if Lebron or Wade or whoever decided they wanted to leave their current team but still wanted to contend, they wouldn't be able to do that in NYC or NJ or any of the teams with cap room... so a S&T to Dallas where he could play with Dirk and Jason Kidd (who Lebron loves) makes more sense than signing with the Knicks or some crap team.

Not saying it will happen, but its more logical than you wanna make it out to be.

it is so frustrating trying to explain this huh?

Young2Kinsler
03-01-2010, 05:59 PM
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

Najera's contract IS guaranteed... for not only just the 2010-2011 season, but 2011-2012 as well.

Same for Dampier...

Information is accordin to this site.. but LETS SAY.. what your saying is right..

The Salary cap will be roughly around 53.8 million.

W/o Counting Dampier & Najera.. and not even counting the player option for Dirk Nowitzki.. The Salary for the Mavericks would be around 52.6 million!

First wrong... Dampiers contract is a pure expiring, and VERY large.

Second, they can make a trade and go over the cap as long as the salaries match up.

Listen I'm not going to be a home and sit on here and say one of those guys is going to come here, but Dallas does have the pieces to get something done if they were presented the opportunity.


Why is it just Dallas, why not any other team? If basically you are saying they can just do a S & T to go to a team that doesn't have the cap space, why is it only Dallas? Why not LA, Portland, SA, Phoenix, Denver, etc?

Maybe those teams don't have a HUGE expiring contract like Dampier. With his contract alone, Dallas can take on a huge salary, and even more by adding in other pieces. Dallas also has a player who is though to have some high upside in Roddy B.

So the main point again is that while it might not happen, and probably won't, Dallas is still in a fell of a position for this offseason, especially with a good showing in the playoffs.

DCB/LAL
03-01-2010, 05:59 PM
Once again you don't get what the original point is. Bravo.

The point is Lebron gets the say in where he goes. He isn't gonna wanna be sign and traded to a crappy Sacramento team or New Jersey team, and I doubt the Lakers even come up in the discussion.

The Mavericks have Damps instant expiring contract, which means the team that acquires it can literally waive him the day they acquire him and not pay a cent. Unlike normal expirings which still last an additional season.

So if Lebron or Wade or whoever decided they wanted to leave their current team but still wanted to contend, they wouldn't be able to do that in NYC or NJ or any of the teams with cap room... so a S&T to Dallas where he could play with Dirk and Jason Kidd (who Lebron loves) makes more sense than signing with the Knicks or some crap team.

Not saying it will happen, but its more logical than you wanna make it out to be.

1. Every team in the NBA is gonna be talking about Lebron whether its the Lakers or Wizards or who ever you wanna mention a guy like Lebron will get a call from EVERY TEAM whether its realistic or not.

2. Why would they trade for Damp and risk not getting anyone I mean if Lebron who is the hometown or guy doesn't wanna play there why would Wade, Bosh etc..... I think Cleveland would rather take back young up and coming talent they can keep. I mean what would you take a package surrounding Damp or Bynum? Or whomever the other teams would offer.

DaBUU
03-01-2010, 06:00 PM
stupid thread, no the Mavs arent the controllers of the free agent market. The teams with money, including the current teams of the impending free agents, are the ones that are going to control what happens. Its up to the player if they want to be signed and traded, they don't have to do that. And especially these guys, they're going somewhere to win a Championship, why on earth would they want their new team to give away its talent. They know what they are leaving on the table if they leave, or else they'd just resign.

BlondeBomber41
03-01-2010, 06:09 PM
1. Every team in the NBA is gonna be talking about Lebron whether its the Lakers or Wizards or who ever you wanna mention a guy like Lebron will get a call from EVERY TEAM whether its realistic or not.

2. Why would they trade for Damp and risk not getting anyone I mean if Lebron who is the hometown or guy doesn't wanna play there why would Wade, Bosh etc..... I think Cleveland would rather take back young up and coming talent they can keep. I mean what would you take a package surrounding Damp or Bynum? Or whomever the other teams would offer.

1. I dont take the Lakers as serious threats to land him. Maybe they will prove me wrong, but I will be very surprised if they even come up in the discussions this summer.

2. It wouldn't just be Dampier. It would be Dampier packaged with someone like Caron Butler, and Roddy Beaubois. It would be a cheap way for the Cavs to get a couple of good pieces for Lebron without taking on **** contracts to make the money work.

thedfactor
03-01-2010, 06:14 PM
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

Najera's contract IS guaranteed... for not only just the 2010-2011 season, but 2011-2012 as well.

Same for Dampier...

Information is accordin to this site.. but LETS SAY.. what your saying is right..

The Salary cap will be roughly around 53.8 million.

W/o Counting Dampier & Najera.. and not even counting the player option for Dirk Nowitzki.. The Salary for the Mavericks would be around 52.6 million!

Hoopshype is incorrect, Dampier is NON-guaranteed, that's a fact. Also I believe the same thing for Najera after this season. He has the next 2 seasons as NON-guaranteed.

Dallas Mavericks Salaries (http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9182)

The reason other teams like Phoenix, SA, and LA aren't being talked about via S&T is because they don't offer a quality player AND the financial relief Dallas has to offer. Damp's contract is virtually 13 million vanishing, no other team to my knowledge can offer such.

Dpop07
03-01-2010, 06:15 PM
stupid thread, no the Mavs arent the controllers of the free agent market. The teams with money, including the current teams of the impending free agents, are the ones that are going to control what happens. Its up to the player if they want to be signed and traded, they don't have to do that. And especially these guys, they're going somewhere to win a Championship, why on earth would they want their new team to give away its talent. They know what they are leaving on the table if they leave, or else they'd just resign.

did you even read the thread before you posted?

thedfactor
03-01-2010, 06:18 PM
I gues 29 year old Butler holds more sign and trade value than say Bynum or Devin Harris for exampleYou're not understanding the main concept here. It's not really about whether Bynum or Harris or any other player is better than Caron. The major factor here is Erick Dampier's contract. No other team can offer the financial relief his non-guaranteed contract presents.

DCB/LAL
03-01-2010, 06:32 PM
1. I dont take the Lakers as serious threats to land him. Maybe they will prove me wrong, but I will be very surprised if they even come up in the discussions this summer.

2. It wouldn't just be Dampier. It would be Dampier packaged with someone like Caron Butler, and Roddy Beaubois. It would be a cheap way for the Cavs to get a couple of good pieces for Lebron without taking on **** contracts to make the money work.

Oh I get what you mean im just saying why would Cleveland want Cap relief if they know their Losing Lebron I believe they would want to be able to get a young player they can build around and a 30 year old Caron and Damps expiring is kinda hard to sell to the Cavs. Yeah they would get the Cap relief but they would lose Caron in a year and would of gotten nothing in return for Lebron which would be the same as just letting him walk in FA.


I mean if they want Cap relief and a guy who's gonna leave in a year for Lebron why not just let Lebron walk instead of taking back other contract? Make sense?

It would make no sense for the Cavs only way a S&T makes sense for the Cavs is if they get a young up and coming player with a chance to be at least an All-Star that they would be able to build around for years.

Dpop07
03-01-2010, 06:36 PM
Oh I get what you mean im just saying why would Cleveland want Cap relief if they know their Losing Lebron I believe they would want to be able to get a young player they can build around and a 30 year old Caron and Damps expiring is kinda hard to sell to the Cavs. Yeah they would get the Cap relief but they would lose Caron in a year and would of gotten nothing in return for Lebron which would be the same as just letting him walk in FA.


I mean if they want Cap relief and a guy who's gonna leave in a year for Lebron why not just let Lebron walk instead of taking back other contract? Make sense?

It would make no sense for the Cavs only way a S&T makes sense for the Cavs is if they get a young up and coming player with a chance to be at least an All-Star.

So what if Lebron(insert FA here) tells his pervious team that he wants to play for NY or Dallas and he's not coming back to (CLE). they can either let him walk or trade with the mavs and take back a young player with excellent upside and a small contract?

DCB/LAL
03-01-2010, 06:40 PM
So what if Lebron(insert FA here) tells his pervious team that he wants to play for NY or Dallas and he's not coming back to (CLE). they can either let him walk or trade with the mavs and take back a young player with excellent upside and a small contract?

Well he could say that about LA, Boston, SA, etc.... So unless he has openly said that he wants to come to Dallas makes no sense and even if he did UNLESS Dallas gave up Dirk it still wouldn't make sense for the Cavs.

And if he says he wants NY then nobody has a Chance because NY doesn't have to give anything up to sign him.


And just curious who would be the "young player" Dallas would give up and build the package around?

Dpop07
03-01-2010, 06:43 PM
Roddy Beaubois...the situation was assuming Lebron would want Dallas over NY, my bad. Why wouldn't Lebron wnat to come to a championship ready team like Dallas and an owner that will pay whatever to get one?

Mr.WhiteSox
03-01-2010, 06:45 PM
Mods delete this thread if there is already one, but I wanted to post my 2010 free agent predictions and let you do it too. Have fun!

Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: New York
Amare Stoudemire: Phoenix
Joe Johnson: Miami
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)
Carlos Boozer: Jazz
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics (takes paycut)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Nuggets
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

Sorry if this is duplicate. I saw some but they were just "Lebron is going to NY/Chicago free agent prediction threads and they are annoying. Lebron will stay.

BULLS? good predictions haha

Mr.WhiteSox
03-01-2010, 06:47 PM
chris bosh is staying in toronto

who would want to play in Canada?

Southsideheat
03-01-2010, 07:54 PM
The bottom line is that Lebron, Wade, Bosh, JJ, Amar'e ect are going to go where they want to go first, then MAYBE to be nice, they'll say "okay, you've been great to me for years, i will allow a sign and trade." If a sign and trade can't happen, they will just sign with the team they want outright.

thescore53
03-01-2010, 08:05 PM
Mods delete this thread if there is already one, but I wanted to post my 2010 free agent predictions and let you do it too. Have fun!

Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: New York
Amare Stoudemire: Phoenix
Joe Johnson: Miami
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)
Carlos Boozer: Jazz
Marcus Camby: Blazers
Ray Allen: Celtics (takes paycut)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Nuggets
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

Sorry if this is duplicate. I saw some but they were just "Lebron is going to NY/Chicago free agent prediction threads and they are annoying. Lebron will stay.

i like how you have lebron staying wade staying and even stoudemire staying but bosh going to the knicks by himeself you have bosh taking less money to lose more :facepalm::facepalm:

thescore53
03-01-2010, 08:06 PM
who would want to play in Canada?

you wanna sig bet he stays have you been to canada i thought so

zadora5
03-01-2010, 08:27 PM
Lebron James: Heat
Dwayne Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Cavs
Amare Stoudemire: knicks
Joe Johnson: knicks
Dirk Nowitzki: mavs
Kobe Bryant: lakers
Yao Ming: rockets
Josh Smith: nuggets
David Lee: wolves
Tracy McGrady: knicks
Carlos Boozer: heat
Marcus Camby: clippers
Ray Allen: celtics or cavs
Manu Ginobili: celtics
Michael Redd: nuggets
Josh Howard:wizards
Nate Robinson: celtics
Shaq: heat
Brandon Roy: blazers

miami adds lebron, boozer shaq and keeps wade =]

DaoudS
03-01-2010, 08:34 PM
Lebron James: Heat
Dwayne Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Cavs
Amare Stoudemire: knicks
Joe Johnson: knicks
Dirk Nowitzki: mavs
Kobe Bryant: lakers
Yao Ming: rockets
Josh Smith: nuggets
David Lee: wolves
Tracy McGrady: knicks
Carlos Boozer: heat
Marcus Camby: clippers
Ray Allen: celtics or cavs
Manu Ginobili: celtics
Michael Redd: nuggets
Josh Howard:wizards
Nate Robinson: celtics
Shaq: heat
Brandon Roy: blazers

miami adds lebron, boozer shaq and keeps wade =]

then hell freezes over.

DaoudS
03-01-2010, 08:35 PM
you wanna sig bet he stays have you been to canada i thought so

lol he isnt active enough to validate that.

christexaport
03-01-2010, 08:56 PM
It is summer, 2010? Bosh, Wade, and Lebron have ended their seasons without rings, and both plan to move on. They know they can leap to Chi, NY, or NJ, or maybe go to Mia and try to attract another max talent to join them in quest for a world title.

But if they just leave, they not only gut their former team's fan base, losing their star with nothing in return, but leave an extra contract year and $17-25 mil in earnings on the table. Do they bolt and leave that cash on the table, or not?

I'm not them, but I know what most smart players and good agents would suggest. In the name of fiscal common sense and appreciation for the organization whose fans have supported them, they seek a sign and trade with a team they feel offers them the best opportunity to win and build a legacy.

So NY, NJ, Chi, Mia, and even Sac work to create packages for a sign and trade to acquire one of the big megastars. They'll need to send expiring contracts, premum prime talent, picks, and/or young promising players in return for any reasonable deal.

But a wildcard enters the scene. Dallas offers Dampier (expiring contract for cap relief), Butler (29 yr. old All Star in his prime, but most importantly, in the final year of his deal), Beaubois (young, speedy, athletic, scoring PG and lengthy defender), plus picks and cash for either Wade or James. Cuban touts how either can play for the second winningest team of the last decade with the second longest playoff streak in the league, in an internationally exposed sports market, with a Sixth Man of the Year, a former MVP and two future HOFers and Dirk and Kidd. They have the center of the near future in place, and an owner committed to winning with the second largest payrolled team in the league.

They go public and let Mia and Cle compete for this package. Cle is willing to let them keep the picks and the cash, while Mia is keen on letting them keep Beaubois and a smaller cash kicker. Either way, Dallas seems to be in control.

What can NY, NJ, Chi, Mia, Sac, or anyone else counteroffer to the teams and their players? Or is this the best option? Please elaborate. Realistic deals only...

THE POLL QUESTION IS WHICH TEAM PRESENTS THE BEST AND MOST LIKELY OPPORTUNITY FOR BOSH, WADE, OR JAMES THIS SUMMER FREE AGENCY PERIOD?

I originally posted this in its own thread in reference to the three main free agent superstars, not the entire market's possible destinations. I wanted to explain what some sports writers call the D.U.S.T. Chip (Dallas' Ultimate Sign and Trade Chip), which is what Dampier is being called, because of his valueable nonguaranteed contract, and gain statistical information on the readers' perception of the Mavericks chances vs. the more commonly mentioned destinations for the Bug Three from a national perspective. Unfortunately, those results were uncerimoniously lumped with these, so I'll have to lump the comments from those preindoctrinated on the D.U.S.T. Chip to those that haven't heard about it.

Many look at these trades from a player talent comparison, but these are business moves. A package such as Dallas can offer offers financial flexibility with a large waivable contract, a valuable contract year All Star player that could be a trade deadline asset for next season, or even a signable player whose Bird rights they'd own for that following offseason, and a young talented player or picks to build around for the future.

I was hoping to see other counter offers, especially from the supposed "most likely" destinations, with a roster analysis of the involved teams post S&T to show why it is or isn't a better move. Anyone?

christexaport
03-01-2010, 09:25 PM
Don't forget the player's union. They'll pressure the top guys to not leave that extra year and $20+ mil on the table. If they did, all lower tiered players' worth would drop. If Lebron signs for $18 mil instead of $21 mil, Joe Johnson's and other's price would drop that much further.

I KEEP hearing about NJ and NY, but if you trade Harris, who does James or Wade play with? NY just sucks, and is a couple years from contending, unless they get all three superstars, and they won't. So where are your trade scenarios?! I made mine. Can we stop saying what won't and instead show what better options are out there? Because I don't see any, just alot of fan talk...

BTW, asking for a S&T wouldn't be being nice, it'd be about getting an extra guaranteed year and $25 mil. Its favorable for both parties. Don't forget, they can use Dampier's contract and Butler as trade assets to try to replace Lebron or Wade, like getting Bosh and Joe Johnson for those two, and STILL having picks and a young Beaubois to build around. So Cle and James, for instance would win. And if they got no takers, they could play Butler for less than James makes now, waive Dampier, and try next season. Cle is stll a good team, and wouldn't have to do much to recover.

christexaport
03-01-2010, 09:29 PM
We have DUST Chip Tshirts in Dal, and have been planning this for a couple years. If Cuban pulls it off, I want everyone to kiss his ring, because their front office has done a great job the last few years, but this would be the biggest coup in history, bigger than Pau, Barkley, or anything!

avrpatsfan
03-01-2010, 09:34 PM
so your saying if the raptors become a pernneial 55 win team and it is known around the leauge that they are 1 piece away from a championship and we have cap room one year theres still no way in hell a max fa sgns here and that free agent would rather sign with the nets

They aren't a 55 win team.

Southsideheat
03-01-2010, 11:46 PM
I was hoping to see other counter offers, especially from the supposed "most likely" destinations, with a roster analysis of the involved teams post S&T to show why it is or isn't a better move. Anyone?

I think Chicago is the team that would work well for a S&T.

For the free agent, you see that Chicago already has a "max type" budding all-star in Derek Rose, who would be more than happy to be a "Robin" to a "Batman" like Pippen was for Jordan. And if Chicago would do a S&T with your team, they would have enough money to sign another "max" guy, or enough cap space to have a great supporting cast. Say Deng and Hinrich for Lebron/Wade or Bosh and a piece. Cle/Mia/Tor would be receiving a 24 year old who averages 18 and 6 a night and is under contract for a while. Also a solid 1 and 2 guard in Hinrich who could be a starter for half the league who's expiring in 2 seasons. And both are excellent defenders.

Cleveland and Miami would have a solid foundation for their depleted rosters and they would have enough cap space to sign a max free agent. Toronto could really have a dynamic starting lineup.

Cleveland

Hinrich
Williams
Deng
Jamison
Hickson

Miami

Hinrich
Joe Johnson
Deng
Beasley
Center

Toronto

Hinrich
Calderon
Turkoglu
Deng
Bargniani

christexaport
03-02-2010, 08:05 AM
I think Chicago is the team that would work well for a S&T.

For the free agent, you see that Chicago already has a "max type" budding all-star in Derek Rose, who would be more than happy to be a "Robin" to a "Batman" like Pippen was for Jordan. And if Chicago would do a S&T with your team, they would have enough money to sign another "max" guy, or enough cap space to have a great supporting cast. Say Deng and Hinrich for Lebron/Wade or Bosh and a piece. Cle/Mia/Tor would be receiving a 24 year old who averages 18 and 6 a night and is under contract for a while. Also a solid 1 and 2 guard in Hinrich who could be a starter for half the league who's expiring in 2 seasons. And both are excellent defenders.

Cleveland and Miami would have a solid foundation for their depleted rosters and they would have enough cap space to sign a max free agent. Toronto could really have a dynamic starting lineup.

Cleveland

Hinrich
Williams
Deng
Jamison
Hickson

Miami

Hinrich
Joe Johnson
Deng
Beasley
Center

Toronto

Hinrich
Calderon
Turkoglu
Deng
Bargniani

Thanks for such good reply. However, Deng and Hinrich are still owed alot more than Butler and Beabois, neither is an All Star, and I think Beaubois has more upside than Deng, though Deng is a good piece.

However, do you think either of those altered lineups have a better chance at a title than

Kidd
James
Marion
Nowitzki
Haywood

...or that they even in the same stratosphere? I don't, though they are younger...

christexaport
03-02-2010, 08:08 AM
I know its not scientific, but the poll seems to show Chicago and Dallas as the leading free agent destinations, and I don't argue with that.

Draco
03-02-2010, 09:40 AM
Thanks for such good reply. However, Deng and Hinrich are still owed alot more than Butler and Beabois, neither is an All Star, and I think has more upside than Deng, though Deng is a good piece.

However, do you think either of those altered lineups have a better chance at a title than

Kidd
James
Marion
Nowitzki
Haywood

...or that they even in the same stratosphere? I don't, though they are younger...

I think the poster you responded to meant those 'altered line ups' to belong to those teams on the receiving end of a Chicago trade.

Beaubois over Deng.. hmm, tough one. I'm going to go with believing any GM in the league takes Deng if offered the choice.

Draco
03-02-2010, 09:42 AM
I know its not scientific, but the poll seems to show Chicago and Dallas as the leading free agent destinations, and I don't argue with that.

Even if it were a scientific poll, it wouldn't mean much.. most people on here seem shocked at the kind of trades that go down.

TheKing23
03-02-2010, 10:23 AM
I'm sorry but why are the Lakers and Mavs options?

The only way they can get a big name free agent is by sign and trade, which every team can do, so every team should be an option.

tbuk100
03-02-2010, 10:49 AM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Chicago
Chris Bosh: Miami
Amare Stoudemire: New Jersey
Joe Johnson: Miami
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Sun
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: Knicks (Takes paycut)
Carlos Boozer: Knicks
Marcus Camby: Clippers
Ray Allen: Cavs
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: Knicks
Josh Howard: Clippers
Nate Robinson: Suns
Shaq: Mavs
Brandon Roy: Blazers

macc
03-02-2010, 11:30 AM
My guess is Lebron stays in Cleveland.

As of yesterday Lebron put in the paperwork right before the deadline to change his number from 23 to 6. You ONLY have to have it in by a certain deadline if you plan on staying with your original team. If he was going to the Knicks or another organization, he wouldn't have to submit for a new number until this summer.

Doesn't guarantee anything but leads you to believe a bit...

Ticket Guy
03-02-2010, 11:49 AM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Chicago
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: New Jersey
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: New York
David Lee: New York
Tracy McGrady: Minnesota
Carlos Boozer: Utah or Chicago
Marcus Camby: Portland
Ray Allen: Chicago ( a vet to compliment rose)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: New Jersey
Josh Howard: Washington
Nate Robinson: Boston
Shaq: Cavaliers
Z. Ilgauskas: Toronto
Brandon Roy: Um he isn't a free agent.
A. Harrington; Chicago

TheKing23
03-02-2010, 12:30 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: Miami
Chris Bosh: Chicago
Amare Stoudemire: New York
Joe Johnson: New Jersey
Dirk Nowitzki: Dallas
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: New York
David Lee: New York
Tracy McGrady: Minnesota
Carlos Boozer: Utah or Chicago
Marcus Camby: Portland
Ray Allen: Chicago ( a vet to compliment rose)
Manu Ginobili: Spurs
Michael Redd: New Jersey
Josh Howard: Washington
Nate Robinson: Boston
Shaq: Cavaliers
Z. Ilgauskas: Toronto
Brandon Roy: Um he isn't a free agent.
A. Harrington; Chicago

Why can't people just take a non biased point of view? You expect the Bulls to get Bosh, possibly Boozer, Ray Allen and Al Harrington?

TheKing23
03-02-2010, 12:41 PM
LeBron James: Cavs
Dwyane Wade: Heat
Chris Bosh: Heat
Amar'e Stoudemire: Knicks
Joe Johnson: Bulls
Dirk Nowitzki: Mavs
Kobe Bryant: Lakers
Yao Ming: Rockets
Josh Smith: Hawks
David Lee: Thunder
Tracy McGrady: Knicks
Carlos Boozer: Nets
Marcus Camby: Clippers
Ray Allen: T'Wolves
Manu Ginobili: Nets
Michael Redd: Bucks
Josh Howard: Wizards
Nate Robinson: Celtics
Shaq: Cavs
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: Cavs
Al Harrington: Thunder

MU and UW Fan
03-02-2010, 12:52 PM
Whats up with some of you predicting Michael Redd to all these random teams. He has an 18 mil player option for next year which he'll certainly exercise. He may even have to retire with tearing his ACL for the second straight year. Good guy but would love to have him gone and out of Milwaukee.

VladTheImpaler
03-02-2010, 04:11 PM
My guess is Lebron stays in Cleveland.

As of yesterday Lebron put in the paperwork right before the deadline to change his number from 23 to 6. You ONLY have to have it in by a certain deadline if you plan on staying with your original team. If he was going to the Knicks or another organization, he wouldn't have to submit for a new number until this summer.

Doesn't guarantee anything but leads you to believe a bit...

Not really, it just means that Cleveland is still very much in play. If he didn't file this paperwork, and was still in Cleveland, he'd be stuck with 23 for next season. It's just a precaution in case he remains a Cavalier.

DCB/LAL
03-02-2010, 04:15 PM
I'm sorry but why are the Lakers and Mavs options?

The only way they can get a big name free agent is by sign and trade, which every team can do, so every team should be an option.

I agree with this. The only teams that should be options should be the more realistic options teams with the Cap space and money to sign big name FA.

eugene
03-02-2010, 04:29 PM
James, Wade, Bosh goes to Knicks... Everybody else goes to Lakers. Close thread!

Lord Leoshes
03-02-2010, 07:22 PM
Lebron James: Cleveland
Dwayne Wade: miami
Chris Bosh: Raps
Amare Stoudemire: miami
Joe Johnson: NJ
Dirk Nowitzki: mavs
Kobe Bryant: lakers
Yao Ming: rockets
David Lee: Knicks
Tracy McGrady: knicks
Raymon Felton : knicks
Carlos Boozer: chicago
Marcus Camby: contending team for cheap
Ray Allen: contending team for cheap
Manu Ginobili: contending team for cheap
Michael Redd: forced to retire
Josh Howard: miami
Nate Robinson: clippers
Shaq: resigns if Cavs win championship
Rudy gay: memphis

Lord Leoshes
03-02-2010, 07:32 PM
Amare, Wade, Boozer, and Beasley on the same squad huh?


Who says in that scenario Beasley is still in Miami & does not get traded for a C, SF, or PG?

Jays Claw
03-02-2010, 07:43 PM
LeBron James - Cleveland
Dwyane Wade - Miami
Chris Bosh - Toronto
Amare Stoudemire - New York
Joe Johnson - Atlanta
Carlos Boozer - Chicago
Tracy McGrady - New York
David Lee - New York
Michael Redd - New Jersey
Ray Allen - Boston
Manu Ginobili - San Antonio
Josh Howard - Washington
Shaquille O'Neal - Cleveland

Lord Leoshes
03-03-2010, 12:20 PM
LeBron James - Cleveland
Dwyane Wade - Miami
Chris Bosh - Toronto
Amare Stoudemire - New York
Joe Johnson - Atlanta
Carlos Boozer - Chicago
Tracy McGrady - New York
David Lee - New York
Michael Redd - New Jersey
Ray Allen - Boston
Manu Ginobili - San Antonio
Josh Howard - Washington
Shaquille O'Neal - Cleveland




Just want to ask if you really see Amare signing with the NYN, over joining Wade, in Miami?
This last month he was practically begging to get traded to Miami to play there, & has been mentioning it that he wants to go back home to what he considers his home town of South FLA. :shrug:

mrblisterdundee
03-08-2010, 01:03 PM
Sacramento has definitely been one of the bottom feeders, but it now seems like it's poised for a comeback. Tyreke Evans is as obvious as it gets, when it comes to deciding on a franchise cornerstone; he's a rookie that already plays as well as Caron Butler ever has, averaging 20 points, five rebounds, and five assists per game. Carl Landry is a great pick-up at small forward. Spencer Hawes could be a good power forward (not a good center). Is the team they have now good enough to attract top-tier free agents?

Young2Kinsler
03-08-2010, 01:05 PM
They could be in the near future, but I think they would have to add another key piece in this years draft, and a mid level free agent. Then go out next season and prove they are committed to winning and not still dumping money... then players will go there.

Hellcrooner
03-08-2010, 01:06 PM
I could see them getting Rudy Gay.

Maybeeee Joe Johnson.

dont think one of the top four will be interested.

Raph12
03-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Nope, they'd be lucky to get Rudy.

NYYCowboys
03-08-2010, 01:35 PM
No

thescore53
03-08-2010, 01:46 PM
sacremento is a cool place and the team is young and talented why not

The_Pharouh
03-08-2010, 03:15 PM
Not for now,May be if they had a Cap space when 2012 comes they can make players like CP3,Dwill interested ,but now I don't see this happening

sep11ie
03-08-2010, 03:22 PM
Sacramento has definitely been one of the bottom feeders, but it now seems like it's poised for a comeback. Tyreke Evans is as obvious as it gets, when it comes to deciding on a franchise cornerstone; he's a rookie that already plays as well as Caron Butler ever has, averaging 20 points, five rebounds, and five assists per game. Carl Landry is a great pick-up at small forward. Spencer Hawes could be a good power forward (not a good center). Is the team they have now good enough to attract top-tier free agents?

Carl Landry is a PF

Ty Fast
03-08-2010, 03:23 PM
Could this happen???
http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4229631

sacgiants1213
03-08-2010, 03:31 PM
money talks.

Swashcuff
03-08-2010, 03:32 PM
I think we need a def of what you think A-List is because this upcoming off season A-List has taken on a whole new meaning.

Me and Mr. T
03-08-2010, 03:33 PM
There is no way either of them are playing for the Knicks so it doesn't matter. If anyone thinks Lebron is going to the pitiful Nets either they need to get their head examined lol

Kyle916
03-08-2010, 03:33 PM
I'm a Kings fan, so I'm not going to comment on whether I believe an upper echelon FA will be attracted because it would be biased, but there are a lot of good things to like about this team.

With the addition of Landry, you have a solid and very young core of Evans, Landry, Casspi, Thompson, and a top-5/7 pick. Then you have guys like Hawes and Greene who seem to have all the tools to be talented contributors, but things just haven't fallen into place yet. Add the fact that there's some money to spend... it will be interesting to watch. Just food for thought.

sacgiants1213
03-08-2010, 03:36 PM
we also got one of the most well respected coaches in the history of the NBA. Playing for paul westphal will play a factor IMO.

GodsSon
03-08-2010, 03:40 PM
NY is possibly getting Amare and Joe Johnson...That's it...I don't see Bosh, Wade or LeBron going anywhere

abe_froman
03-08-2010, 03:44 PM
not a chance

JNA17
03-08-2010, 03:45 PM
I will personally suck everyone on PSD's **** if that happens :laugh:

GodsSon
03-08-2010, 03:49 PM
I will personally suck everyone on PSD's **** if that happens :laugh:

You better hope it doesn't, or you might need to invest in some knee pads (no homo)...

JNA17
03-08-2010, 03:50 PM
You better hope it doesn't, or you might need to invest in some knee pads (no homo)...

lol good one. :)

But in all seriousness, no it won't happen. 100%.

MJ-BULLS
03-08-2010, 03:51 PM
Kobe Bryant to New York not happening.

I really see them possibly getting Joe Johnson or Amare Stoudemire though.

TheKing23
03-08-2010, 03:52 PM
The title of this thread is a grammatical fail.

"If LeBron do not sign with New York" hahaha.

NYK_kidd77
03-08-2010, 03:57 PM
To be honest i really wouldn't want the Knicks to give Kobe a long term deal and tie up a ton of money.

Slimsim
03-08-2010, 04:03 PM
they might have to rely on the draft.

Jaji
03-08-2010, 04:19 PM
The title of this thread is a grammatical fail.

"If LeBron do not sign with New York" hahaha.

Yeah I'm not usually a stickler for grammar in online forums but you have to at least get the thread title right :pity:.

Evolution23
03-08-2010, 04:23 PM
I just got off the phone with kobe. he said he wants to play in china next season.

ZebraCity916
03-08-2010, 04:26 PM
It's definitely gonna be an interesting offseason for the Kings. We got a lot of money to spend. All I know is that we need a defensive minded, rebounding, shot blocking center to clog up the paint.

0nekhmer
03-08-2010, 04:37 PM
New York wont get any of the big names. Maybe second tier players who are after $$

B.G.B
03-08-2010, 04:41 PM
Keep on dreaming New York

mjqusoldier
03-08-2010, 04:51 PM
Nobody knows who the Knicks are going to get until it's time. Glad to have the excitement back on the best city in the world though. Knicks will be good next year either way

TheWatcher34
03-08-2010, 05:00 PM
i don't think that will happen either, but the thought of Kobe retiring as a Knick has crossed my mind at some point: Kobe loves NY and NY loves Kobe...

jmtapia
03-08-2010, 05:14 PM
i'm a kings fan, so i'm not going to comment on whether i believe an upper echelon fa will be attracted because it would be biased, but there are a lot of good things to like about this team.

With the addition of landry, you have a solid and very young core of evans, landry, casspi, thompson, and a top-5/7 pick. Then you have guys like hawes and greene who seem to have all the tools to be talented contributors, but things just haven't fallen into place yet. Add the fact that there's some money to spend... It will be interesting to watch. Just food for thought.

+1

Hawkeye15
03-08-2010, 05:24 PM
They have Evans, Landry, Casspi, Thompson, and will probably add another scoring wing in the draft at the 6ish pick. There is no reason why a FA should overlook Sacramento. In fact, if I were them I would look to trade that pick for a player. But that is me

DerekRE_3
03-08-2010, 05:29 PM
They have Evans, Landry, Casspi, Thompson, and will probably add another scoring wing in the draft at the 6ish pick. There is no reason why a FA should overlook Sacramento. In fact, if I were them I would look to trade that pick for a player. But that is me

That would be definitely be something to look into...if we could get that big man that can rebound and defend that we so desperately need.

Kyle N.
03-08-2010, 05:30 PM
You would think Sacramento wouldn't be such a terrible place to play. Most of the players who come here seem to talk positively about the organization and community support. The Kings are in an interesting position right now. If they can score big in the draft, who knows who would want to come here. I think our instincts say somebody classified as an A-list player probably won't come here, but it's not out of the question that they get somebody who can help them win some basketball games. I don't know what goes through player's minds.

Dpop07
03-08-2010, 05:33 PM
not an 'a' list propect.

Rudy Gay maybe

td0tsfinest
03-08-2010, 05:34 PM
Sacramento is a warm place: check
They got an up incoming star: check

It would be great to see this once great franchise make a comeback. There are a lot of pieces they can move around including the draft pick. But all in all, they got a really good player in Tyreke Evans to build a team.

Ty Fast
03-08-2010, 05:35 PM
The title of this thread is a grammatical fail.

"If LeBron do not sign with New York" hahaha.

I was just browsing the net and I found that picture so I thought I would make a thread, and what is wrong with the title of my thread? It makes sense.

td0tsfinest
03-08-2010, 05:40 PM
Yeah I'm not usually a stickler for grammar in online forums but you have to at least get the thread title right :pity:.

damn right.

christexaport
03-08-2010, 10:14 PM
I agree with this. The only teams that should be options should be the more realistic options teams with the Cap space and money to sign big name FA.

Honestly, that's exactly the opposite of what the teams, players, and their agents would prefer in an ideal world. And history shows superstar players rarely walk away from a team, and are usually traded instead. It sounds weird to many, but its pretty much plain common sense.

Take Cle, for instance. Their biggest offseason scenarios stand in this order:

1. Sign James for a maximum 6 year deal.

2. If he refuses to sign, find a trade partner he finds to his liking, and work a deal for some tradeable assets. This can sound heart is most likely a combination of expiring, nonguaranteed, or final year contracts, All Star level players still near prime playing age, young players with alot of upside, and draft picks.

3. The worst scenario for Cle would be having James walk away without any compensation. Being over the cap, they couldn't easily replace James without trading away a major piece. So it is in the team's interests to sign and trade him to at least have some assets or players to use to rebuild in his absence.

Now the teams with cap space are actually leverage for James, since Cle knows if they refuse to help with a sign and trade, he can walk to one of those teams. That's the last thing they'd want. And James can make an extra $25 mil and an extra year's security on his contract via a sign and trade, so it is more lucrative for James as well. I know you think this deems all teams as players, but since he's a free agent, he controls where he goes.

Killadelphian13
03-09-2010, 12:03 AM
I'm also thinking not quite an "A-list" talent yet. If their draft pick makes a quick impact though and they can wrangle one of the second tier free agents I think that will open up a lot of eyes for the following few years, which is when they'll get primed for a Western Conference run. This team obviously won't be a contender in the next two years or so, but adding experience for Tyreke, Casspi, Thompson, Landry, Hawes, and that draft pick on top of signing higher profile free agents might soon be appealing to a couple of top-flight free agents in say 2011 or 2012. Watch for Sacramento to be a force in the Western Conference in two or three years.

MacFitz92
03-09-2010, 12:22 AM
I have a problem with you saying 'Reke is as good as Butler ever was. Butler's defense is a lot better than 'Reke's.

Meth
03-09-2010, 12:31 AM
Sacramento is a great place, and free agents will go there, only if they have a talented super star that'll lure other free agents.

And yes, they do have that player.

raidersrock99
03-09-2010, 12:38 AM
cross off lebron....melo...wade...but any others will come here in a heartbeat...

DRE'-MAC
03-09-2010, 12:50 AM
I think that they have the young talent to get a good FA. I think they could look something like this next season.

C: Jason Thompson/Spencer Hawes/Joey Dorsey/Jon Brockman
PF: Carl Landry/Demarcus Cousins/Andres Nocioni
SF: Rudy Gay/Omri Casspi
SG: Manu Ginobili/Francisco Garcia/Jerome Dyson
PG: Tyreke Evans/Beno Udrih/3rd PG

So sign Rudy Gay and Manu Ginobili. Draft Cousins and Dyson. Maybe this is a little unrealistic but I think the young talent on this team is enought to tempt some good free agents.

billy17
03-09-2010, 01:40 AM
I have a problem with you saying 'Reke is as good as Butler ever was. Butler's defense is a lot better than 'Reke's.

Tyreke doesnt get the credit he deserves as a defender. When people talk about how clutch he is, its as much on the defensive end as it is on offense.

Ask Gilbert

bigboyblu
03-09-2010, 02:02 AM
They easily could good young core, Its the Maloof's so the money will be there plus all the off-season parting for free at the palms lol.

Bulls_fan90
03-09-2010, 02:16 AM
I could see them getting Rudy Gay.

Maybeeee Joe Johnson.

dont think one of the top four will be interested.

Why in the world would Joe Johnson leave the Hawks to join the Kings?

1. He'd get less money/less years
2. Still be in a small market

Makes no sense. I agree with Rudy Gay though. I think he'll be a great pick up this offseason.

Kyle916
03-09-2010, 02:19 AM
I think that they have the young talent to get a good FA. I think they could look something like this next season.

C: Jason Thompson/Spencer Hawes/Joey Dorsey/Jon Brockman
PF: Carl Landry/Demarcus Cousins/Andres Nocioni
SF: Rudy Gay/Omri Casspi
SG: Manu Ginobili/Francisco Garcia/Jerome Dyson
PG: Tyreke Evans/Beno Udrih/3rd PG

So sign Rudy Gay and Manu Ginobili. Draft Cousins and Dyson. Maybe this is a little unrealistic but I think the young talent on this team is enought to tempt some good free agents.

That's a good offseason, but I think the Kings stay away from the 32 soon to be 33 year old Ginobili.

Kings49sGiants
03-09-2010, 02:51 AM
Why in the world would Joe Johnson leave the Hawks to join the Kings?

1. He'd get less money/less years
2. Still be in a small market

Makes no sense. I agree with Rudy Gay though. I think he'll be a great pick up this offseason.

you're under the impression that the Hawks will offer JJ the max, which they probably won't. Their offer over the summer was 4 yrs for 60 million which JJ turned down, but I highly doubt the Hawks will get desperate enough to go the max contract way which will be 6 years ~115 million specially for a guard approaching 30.

As a Kings fan, as much as I like Joe Johnson's game, I don't think he will be a good fit here. His game is too similar to Reke being a ball dominate guard.

CityofTreez
03-09-2010, 04:08 AM
Were not landing any huge free agents!

Our best FA signing was Vlade Divac for Heavens sake! We are going to build through the draft or a blockbuster trade!

SFGiants4life
03-09-2010, 04:23 AM
Tyreke doesnt get the credit he deserves as a defender. When people talk about how clutch he is, its as much on the defensive end as it is on offense.

Ask Gilbert

thats the only game i went to this year, awesome moment :)

NBA-GMaster
03-09-2010, 08:02 AM
Knicks Chances of getting these players:
LeBron James (5% if the Cavs becomes the World Champions; 50% if not)
Dwyane Wade (50% now they're struggling to get into the playoffs)
Chris Bosh (50% but 90% if He decides to opt out)
Amare Stoudemire,Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay (80% each)

theLgndKllr35
03-09-2010, 08:29 AM
If Lebron don't sign in New York, people gonna be mad crazy dog.

dougie5627
03-09-2010, 09:04 AM
I was just browsing the net and I found that picture so I thought I would make a thread, and what is wrong with the title of my thread? It makes sense.

if lebron doesnt sign in new york makes sense,, if lebron dont sign in new york has no meaning

think of it this way. if lebron does not-- or in your case if lebron do not

jmtapia
03-09-2010, 01:11 PM
Were not landing any huge free agents!

Our best FA signing was Vlade Divac for Heavens sake! We are going to build through the draft or a blockbuster trade!

im thinking both..

THE_FLASH_21
03-09-2010, 01:18 PM
Should push hard for BOSH! MIght end up there... idk.. Not everyone can go to NY or to LA.. lol

Tribe
03-09-2010, 01:20 PM
If you pay them....they will come

JOSKOMANG4
03-09-2010, 01:37 PM
I think getting rid of young shooter Kevin Martin was their downfall IMO.

They should of build upon that roster w/Kevin Martin.

jmtapia
03-09-2010, 01:39 PM
Should push hard for BOSH! MIght end up there... idk.. Not everyone can go to NY or to LA.. lol

The Maloofs will try their darnest to get a top name FA. Bosh and Evans would be :drool::drool::drool:. However, i doubt that any of the A-List FAs will land here... most likely the Kings will have to settle with some lesser FAs and build through another solid draft....they certainly have the young players and draft pick to pull of a big trade.

It should be a very interesting off-season for the Kings....

jmtapia
03-09-2010, 01:40 PM
I think getting rid of young shooter Kevin Martin was their downfall IMO.

They should of build upon that roster w/Kevin Martin.

did you catch the kings when Martin was on the team??

BigEric
03-09-2010, 01:44 PM
As awkward as it sounds, if the Cavs don't win a title and don't look to bring back Shaq, I think the Kings should look at bringing him in, if the price is right.

I can also see us bringing in a guy like Gay, but a big FA is possible, very very unlikely, but possible.

Clutch6
03-09-2010, 01:52 PM
I think going to Sac. would be a smart move for pending free agents. They are up and coming, have solid ownership with the Maloofs, and for a while in the past were pretty competitive when they were known as the "QUEENS" by many. I would LOVE to see Joe Johnson play next to Evans, but I think if they made smart investments in more unknown lower tier free agents they could build depth similar to what they had back in the day.

A Nut Da 1
03-09-2010, 02:37 PM
okay here is the deal Lebron is staying put so is D-wade where Amare is likely to join him Bosh is going to chicago David Lee and Rudy Gay are going to NJ and Boozer and Joe Johnson will be NYK

Ezekial
03-09-2010, 02:51 PM
Why do people think D-Wade is staying in Miami. He'll never win another title there without a great second tier player with all of the trash that goes through there. He already said if they weren't a contender he won't resign. It may be his house now, but the United Center will be their house.

ko8e24
03-09-2010, 02:53 PM
Wow, this Knicks 2010 crap has been talked about so much now, it's not even funny. Some of you knucklehead fans concentrate so much on what will happen 4-5 months, that you're not living in the moment and enjoying the present day basketball that is being played. It's perhaps the most competitive season in NBA history where there is no clear cut favorite. Things are now rounding out with the end of the regular season, and the start of the playoffs approaching, and some of you are willing to expend some of your brain cells still talking about the Knicks and this summer of 2010 crap. This crap has been going on long enough for the last 2-3 yrs. Enough is enough.


A BIG :facepalm: to all of you out there who FAIL to live in the moment.

RadiantShot
03-09-2010, 03:02 PM
You better hope it doesn't, or you might need to invest in some knee pads (no homo)...

ROFL. I'm in my webdesign class and it's mad quiet. I just laughed out loud. FML. Lol. Good one.

RadiantShot
03-09-2010, 03:04 PM
Wow, this Knicks 2010 crap has been talked about so much now, it's not even funny. Some of you knucklehead fans concentrate so much on what will happen 4-5 months, that you're not living in the moment and enjoying the present day basketball that is being played. It's perhaps the most competitive season in NBA history where there is no clear cut favorite. Things are now rounding out with the end of the regular season, and the start of the playoffs approaching, and some of you are willing to expend some of your brain cells still talking about the Knicks and this summer of 2010 crap. This crap has been going on long enough for the last 2-3 yrs. Enough is enough.


A BIG :facepalm: to all of you out there who FAIL to live in the moment.


What a fail on your part. How can they enjoy a season where they are sucking more than a prostitute?

While they are not even trying to get into the playoffs anymore, the LA Lakers are one of the most talked about teams, if not the most. You guys are obviously going to the playoffs, and have nowhere to look but up.

How can they...Enjoy the moment, when they're playing PUTRID basketball right now?


:facepalm: x2

D1JM
03-09-2010, 03:09 PM
kobe to the bulls

ko8e24
03-09-2010, 03:23 PM
What a fail on your part. How can they enjoy a season where they are sucking more than a prostitute?

While they are not even trying to get into the playoffs anymore, the LA Lakers are one of the most talked about teams, if not the most. You guys are obviously going to the playoffs, and have nowhere to look but up.

How can they...Enjoy the moment, when they're playing PUTRID basketball right now?


:facepalm: x2

We don't need 7 of these threads a week.

amoore87
03-09-2010, 03:31 PM
I will personally suck everyone on PSD's **** if that happens :laugh:

u r atleast 50% gay for saying that

RadiantShot
03-09-2010, 04:06 PM
We don't need 7 of these threads a week.

I know, but still. They are miserable. If making 7 threads a week cheers them up, why the hell not?

:laugh:

smith&wesson
03-09-2010, 04:21 PM
Remeber you heard it here first.
I have a clue for every one in regards to king james and free agency.

He submitted a request to change his number. you only have to do that if you are already on a team. other wise if he was going to new york or new jersey or any where else he could simply change his number and throw on a a jersey with the new team with out having to request a new number. now i ask you this. Why would he request a new number through the leauge if he is going to leave clevland any ways ? he could just sign with a new team and throw on a new jersey with his new number on it. i know why. its because he is going to stay in clevland. if he werent there would be absolutley no reason for him to submit that request to the league. it would make no sence. he would be wasting his time.

As for the knicks. at least they got to sign mcgrady lol hahahaa...
new york doesnt deserve lebron, they mistreat theyre players, (i.e. david lee,nate robinson, even as far back as patrick ewing) new york has a way of ending good players careers. (i.e. eddy curry, steve francis, stephon marbury).. although you may argue some of these guys are head cases. it dosnt change the fact that they were all stars before they came to new york and are now no bodies.

new york hasnt had an allstar in 10 years prior to lee getting in this year due to injuries to other allstars.
new york hasnt drafted a player that they can turn in to a corner stone despite missing the play offs year after year this to me sounds like poor scouting. Although some players were picked with great talent none of them were given the confidence in being the corner stone. Hek david lee could hardly get a contract extention. Three time dunk champion nate robinson is a tremendous yonge talent and dantoni would put him in the dog house and not give him minutes, meanwhile chris duhon gets minutes ?? im sorry but nate is too talented to not play.

new york has no loyalty to its players. they over pay for big names and then when the big names arive there is almost certani turmoil in the locker room. its never coaches or management, its always the players.
somthings wrong with this picture. new york will never land lebron.

og knick
03-09-2010, 04:24 PM
actually Lebron will sign with the knicks . i saw it this morning .I was riding up hudson this moring bout 10am.... weaving in ad out of traffic making alot of noise and loving life... at canal street by the holland tunnel I see a huge lebron sprite commercial and just felt what it will be like when lebronmania takes over here .. final appearance in 2010-11 .. melo in 2011... record pace in 2011-12 season .. finals win ... then the end of the world

that's a true story and you heard it here first ....

Knicks do suck but we live here and you live there..

NYYCowboys
03-09-2010, 04:25 PM
Remeber you heard it here first.
I have a clue for every one in regards to king james and free agency.

He submitted a request to change his number. you only have to do that if you are already on a team. other wise if he was going to new york or new jersey or any where else he could simply change his number and throw on a a jersey with the new team with out having to request a new number. now i ask you this. Why would he request a new number through the leauge if he is going to leave clevland any ways ? he could just sign with a new team and throw on a new jersey with his new number on it. i know why. its because he is going to stay in clevland. if he werent there would be absolutley no reason for him to submit that request to the league. it would make no sence. he would be wasting his time.

That doesn't mean anything. He maybe doesn't have his mind made up and probably won't until this summer, and he wanted to change his jersey just in case he does end up staying in Cleveland. That doesn't mean he's definitely staying.