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ko8e24
02-12-2010, 04:08 AM
The TNT crew did not reveal the nominees for PLAYER OF THE DECADE, but said that the results for that will be out Saturday, so I guess we may not have a chance to vote. I really don't know.

This is the current site for where you can vote, but they won't let you vote for PLAYER OF THE DECADE.

www.nba.com/alldecade



My Assumption is that it will be between these 6 nominees, and most likely, the 6 that the NBA will probably choose as the nominees (1999-2000 season to 2008-2009 season).

IMO, guys worth of consideration, that will be left off in the nominees list will be Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, Dirk Nowitzki, and Dwyane Wade.



Shaquille O'neal-Los Angeles Lakers (5 seasons, 1999-2004), Miami Heat (3 1/2 seasons, 2004-2008), Phoenix Suns (1 1/2 seasons, 2008-2009)

5 NBA Finals (4-Lakers 2000/2001/2002/2004, 1-Heat 2006), 4 NBA Titles (3-Lakers 2000/2001/2002, 1-Heat 2006), 1 League MVP (Lakers-2000), 3 Finals MVPs (Lakers-2000/2001/2002), 3 All-Star Game MVPs (2-Lakers 2000/20004, 1-Suns 2009), 1 Scoring Title (Lakers-2000), Career High 61 pts (Lakers-2000).



Kobe Bryant-Los Angeles Lakers (10 seasons, 1999-2009)

6 NBA Finals (2000/2001/2002/2004/2008/2009), 4 NBA Titles (2000/2001/2002/2009), 1 League MVP (2008), 1 Finals MVP (2009), 3 All-Star Game MVPs (2002/2007/2009), TEAM USA Olympic Gold Medal (2008), 2 Scoring Titles (2005/2006), Career High 81 pts (2006).



Tim Duncan-San Antonio Spurs (10 seasons, 1999-2009)

3 NBA Finals (2003/2005/2007), 3 NBA Titles (2003/2005/2007), 2 League MVPs (2002/2003), 2 Finals MVPs (2003/2005), 1 All-Star Game MVP (2000), TEAM USA Olympic Bronze Medal (2004), Career High 53 pts (2001).



Kevin Garnett-Minnesota Timberwolves (8 seasons, 1999-2007), Boston Celtics (2 seasons, 2007-2009)

1 NBA Finals (Celtics-2008), 1 NBA Title (Celtics-2008), 1 League MVP (Timberwolves-2004), 1 All-Star Game MVP (Timberwolves-2003), 1 Defensive Player of the Year (Celtics-2008), TEAM USA Olympic Gold Medal (2000), Career High 47 pts (Timberwolves-2005).



LeBron James-Cleveland Cavaliers (6 seasons, 2003-2009)

1 NBA Finals (2007), 1 League MVP (2009), 2 All-Star Game MVPs (2006/2008), NBA Rookie of the Year (2004), TEAM USA Olympic Gold Medal (2008), TEAM USA Olympic Bronze Medal (2004), 1 Scoring Title (2008), Career High 56 pts (2005).



Steve Nash-Dallas Mavericks (5 seasons, 1999-2004), Phoenix Suns (5 seasons, 2004-2009)

2 League MVPs (Suns-2005/2006), Career High 42 pts (Two Different Occasions)

OaklandsFinest
02-12-2010, 04:33 AM
Shaq! He is by far the most dominant player in the last 10 years. When he was with the Lakers there was no way to stop him..

Ovratd1up
02-12-2010, 04:45 AM
Obviously it will come down to Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan, with Duncan winning it, even though I think the whole "Lebron didn't play enough" argument is way overused.

ko8e24
02-12-2010, 05:00 AM
Obviously it will come down to Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan, with Duncan winning it, even though I think the whole "Lebron didn't play enough" argument is way overused.

Okay fine how about of the argument that of the 6 guys, 5 have gotten to the finals, and of the 5 guys, 4 have won a title. Happy? I came up with a different argument than what you mentioned. :rolleyes:

(PS: you forced me to bring that argument)

Ovratd1up
02-12-2010, 06:19 AM
If they name the accolade "Player of the Decade" then that's fine. But that shouldn't matter if it is asking for the best players that played in the last decade.

And the argument that needs to be repeated to Lakers' fans (although you seemed to be an exception) is that basing individual greatness off of team accomplishment is contradictory in itself.

mfb_lt1birdman
02-12-2010, 07:54 AM
This is tough. Shaq was so dominant up until about 03. 04-06 were good years then he just really fell off in production. I feel you have to take him out of the mix because the latter half of the decade he really was not that good, or not nearly as good as Duncan and Kobe.

Kobe steadily rose to the level of one of the all time greats throughout the decade with rings, and many, many remarkable individual accomplishments along the way.

Duncan was pretty much Mr. Reliable and very consistantly one of the top 5 players in the league. During this time he anchored his spot as one of, if not the greatest, PF's of all time by keeping the Spurs in contention just about every year of the decade.

Duncan or Kobe, flip a coin I guess.

Daze9900
02-12-2010, 08:37 AM
I would say Kobe, he was a vital part of the success that he and Shaq shared in LA. He has two more titles, the 81 points is what put Shaq behind in my mind. Its hard to even fathom that a guard scored that many points. I know Shaq was pretty dominant but I'll still go with #8 and # 24.

TheKing23
02-12-2010, 09:13 AM
1. Tim Duncan
2. Shaquille O'Neal
3. Kobe Bryant

To be honest LeBron shouldn't really be in the conversation... This upcoming decade is his.

LE-SHAQ
02-12-2010, 09:31 AM
Shaq
tim
kobe

Double_R
02-12-2010, 09:59 AM
1. Tim Duncan
2. Shaquille O'Neal
3. Kobe Bryant

To be honest LeBron shouldn't really be in the conversation... This upcoming decade is his.

The upcoming decade is Dwight Howard's decade

It is ludicrous that Lebron with no titles is even in the conversation, another example of how much di$k sucking goes on by the NBA... their credibility goes out the window yet again

Double_R
02-12-2010, 10:02 AM
I would say Kobe, he was a vital part of the success that he and Shaq shared in LA. He has two more titles, the 81 points is what put Shaq behind in my mind. Its hard to even fathom that a guard scored that many points. I know Shaq was pretty dominant but I'll still go with #8 and # 24.

I am a Kobe fan, but the 81 was one regular season game... Shaq won all 3 finals MVPs and one MVP during that 3 peat that involved the 2 of them, so it is an easy choice who was more dominant at that time

Raps18-19 Champ
02-12-2010, 10:35 AM
Shaq or Duncan for me.

thesparky33
02-12-2010, 11:58 AM
Duncan gets this easily IMO. I know I will get blasted for that, since most consider him and Shaq close, but Duncan was dominant for a longer period, and did a lot more with so much less in terms of teammates.

MikefromMars
02-12-2010, 12:06 PM
Duncan!

ko8e24
02-12-2010, 02:40 PM
Duncan gets this easily IMO. I know I will get blasted for that, since most consider him and Shaq close, but Duncan was dominant for a longer period, and did a lot more with so much less in terms of teammates.

oh ya, David Robinson, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are all scrubs. And Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie, Sean Elliot, Stephen Jackson, Robert Horry, Brent Barry, Bruce Bowen etc. just stood there on the floor with a nail filer, getting a pedicure on the sideline while Duncan doing all the work down low :rolleyes:

Storch
02-12-2010, 02:46 PM
Shaq hands down. During his dominance he was unstoppable. Seriously, he should have those kobe commercials because how can you stop shaq in the three peat? no way.

still1ballin
02-12-2010, 05:47 PM
http://www.nba.com/alldecade/vote13/

There is the link for the Player of the Decade vote

Gibby23
02-12-2010, 05:50 PM
1. Tim Duncan
2. Shaquille O'Neal
3. Kobe Bryant

To be honest LeBron shouldn't really be in the conversation... This upcoming decade is his.

He has to win a title. That is still to be decided. It could be Durants decade, he has a real shot at it.

Baller1
02-12-2010, 05:53 PM
1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Kobe

JNA17
02-12-2010, 06:00 PM
1. kobe
2. duncan
3. shaq

gbpackers12
02-12-2010, 06:13 PM
1.) Kobe
2.) Shaq
3.) Duncan

ko8e24
02-13-2010, 07:52 PM
I was right in that these 6 guys would be the nominees.

http://www.nba.com/alldecade/vote13/


Currently Kobe leads at 41%. But shockingly, LeBron is 2nd at 17%.

Oh these little kiddy and nooby children who became NBA fans like 2-3 yrs ago :facepalm: and :pity:

heathonater
02-13-2010, 09:53 PM
gotta go with shaq. no team could stop in his prime, and no other player on that list had destroyed the league like shaq did. kobe and duncan are great players, but none of those players ever dominated the league like shaq did when he was in his prime. as for this decade, if lebron ends up winning three or four titles then he will be the player of the decaed. but, for this decade lebron doesn't belong in the discussion with duncan, shaq, and kobe.

CowboysKB24
02-13-2010, 10:49 PM
I think it is Kobe or Duncan.

These last three four years Shaq hasn't been the same guy. I know he did a lot in the early 2000s and I am a fan of Shaq, but we all know with out Kobe none of that was possible. The same can be said for Kobe early accomplishments in 2000s as well, I know. Were talking the ENTIRE decade, he was dominance for half of the decade, while Kobe and Duncan been doing it for all ten years. Duncans most impressive thing for me is that he didn't have another Super super star like Shaq always had in Wade or Kobe.

1.)Kobe
2.)Duncan
3.) Shaq
And Kobe has been noted as the best player in the league since 2004 and probably still is right now. I want Kobe to win it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Duncan got it. Add playoff and regular season statistics totals from the entire decade and I am sure Duncan and Kobe numbers are much higher than Shaq and that should be definitely be considered when choosing the Player of the Decade, along with the awards.

kArSoN RyDaH
02-13-2010, 11:14 PM
kobe bryant has like 50 +% of the votes right now. hes got it down.

Indi23
02-13-2010, 11:17 PM
oh ya, David Robinson, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are all scrubs. And Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie, Sean Elliot, Stephen Jackson, Robert Horry, Brent Barry, Bruce Bowen etc. just stood there on the floor with a nail filer, getting a pedicure on the sideline while Duncan doing all the work down low :rolleyes:

HAHAHAHAH omg made my day thank you sir!

Edit: Im not a big kobe fan but it should definatly be between him,shaq and duncan.

ARMIN12NBA
02-14-2010, 02:41 AM
He has to win a title. That is still to be decided. It could be Durants decade, he has a real shot at it.

True story. Lebron will be 25-35 while Durant will be 21-31. Durant will be all prime while Lebron will have a few waning years in there. Plus, Durant has a young, stacked team and I can see OKC becoming elite. Even if they are not, the Lakers will have a crap ton of cap space when he becomes a free agent in 4-5 years. :p

Public Enemy #1
02-14-2010, 03:23 AM
Duncan, has to be the most dominant player of this decade. 3 titles, 9 50+ win Seasons, Consistency, Double Doubles nightly. Shaq and Kobe can be tie because Shaq owned the first 3-4 years of the decade and Kobe gradually built his Hall of Fame career up.

ko8e24
02-14-2010, 03:25 AM
Duncan, has to be the most dominant player of this decade. 3 titles, 9 50+ win Seasons, Consistency, Double Doubles nightly. Shaq and Kobe can be tie because Shaq owned the first 3-4 years of the decade and Kobe gradually built his Hall of Fame career up.

hum, this is actually a very good argument. concise and to the point. nice! :clap:

kblo247
02-14-2010, 03:33 AM
Duncan, has to be the most dominant player of this decade. 3 titles, 9 50+ win Seasons, Consistency, Double Doubles nightly. Shaq and Kobe can be tie because Shaq owned the first 3-4 years of the decade and Kobe gradually built his Hall of Fame career up.

I have no problem with that argument what so ever, but Mchale summed it up perfectly when Webber basically said the same thing.

Kobe and/or Shaq has beaten Duncan more times than he beat them which is the only thing that hurts him.

If they take the factor out, then you are correct with your assessment imo.

IversonIsKrazy
02-14-2010, 05:20 PM
Iverson should have been in discussion instead of LeBron, c'mon man.

But TD by far has to win it, even tho we know Kobe is going to dominate because of fans.
Duncan deserves it by farr.

ko8e24
02-14-2010, 05:26 PM
Iverson should have been in discussion instead of LeBron, c'mon man.

But TD by far has to win it, even tho we know Kobe is going to dominate because of fans.
Duncan deserves it by farr.


It's between Duncan and Kobe, and if Duncan won, I would have 0% problem with it. It's no shame for Kobe to lose to a legend like Tim Duncan, and vise versa.

But yes, Iverson should be in the discussion moreso than LeBron. Iverson "changed the game" for the little man, and nobody, and I mean nobody could score the way he did, and sarcrifiice his body each and every night. AI was one tough mofo

Skizzik
02-14-2010, 05:51 PM
Yeah, I'm completely split between the three. Kobe individually is the best player among the three of them in pure talent, however he wasn't the alpha male on the early 2000's Lakers. Shaq was the opposite as his career winds down, was the lead dog for the three-peat, but then was Wade's sidekick for the Miami title and now is horrendously overweight and just not the same player he was. Duncan wins any vote looking for consistency. Every year, his team is in the playoffs, while you can note Shaq and Kobe beat up on Duncan, that was mostly during the three-peat and as a tag team. On top of that, Shaq and Kobe have both sat out of the playoffs, while Duncan has lost in the first round ONCE and during that decade, never sat them out entirely. It could go any way and you could make an excuse for any:
Duncan: Consistency.
Kobe: Personal talent mixed with team success.
Shaq: Dominance, but hurt by his career slowly winding down over the back of the decade.