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Gibby23
02-03-2010, 01:54 PM
They are playing well and are on the rise. They should make the playoffs this year and are stocked up on young talent. They have some money to spend this offseason and I think they are a player or 2 away from being a legit threat next year. They don't need a superstar because they have one of the best players in the NBA in KD. Westbrook is a rising star and one of the best young PG's in the game. Jeff Green is a solid player and can do everything well as far as scoring, rebounding, and defending 2 or 3 positions. Harden and Sefolosha are solid players as well. This core group is only going to get better by next year.

I think if they get veterans like Jermaine O'neal, Ray allen, and Brendan Haywood they would be a contending team next year with the improvement of the young guys. If they can free up some more money and just get Amare, that would also put this team in my opinion.

They have about 13 or 14 million to spend next year. What 1 player or what mix of 2 or 3 veteran players can put them in the conversation of contenders next year?

FlakeyFool
02-03-2010, 01:55 PM
your title makes no sense.

Raph12
02-03-2010, 01:57 PM
What they need is a legitimate center down-low to provide the inside presence.

Gibby23
02-03-2010, 02:02 PM
your title makes no sense.

Why?

loki34
02-03-2010, 02:07 PM
Low post scorer. If they could get boozer and have green come off the bench I think that would help a lot.

Romo2Bryant
02-03-2010, 02:10 PM
your title makes no sense.

You make no sense.

Romo2Bryant
02-03-2010, 02:11 PM
^ Boozer would be a good fit... Is there anyway they can get Al Jefferson without trading Durant?

nipo10847
02-03-2010, 02:25 PM
^ Boozer would be a good fit... Is there anyway they can get Al Jefferson without trading Durant?

Durant is untouchable now. They ain't trading him for anyone besides LeBron James.

Pierzynski4Prez
02-03-2010, 02:37 PM
They can sign any of the top 2010 FA's and instantly be a top team in the West.

Raph12
02-03-2010, 02:40 PM
Big AL would be a good fit, I think if they have to sacrifice Harden, it would be worth it.

I hear Minny is looking for a SG...

PG - Westbrook
SG - Sefalosha
SF - Durant
PF - Green
C - Jefferson

That looks pretty damn good to me, but now they'll need some solid bench guys.

phila_gorilla
02-03-2010, 02:43 PM
your title makes no sense.

What a dong. Replies to a thread just to say that.

I agree with what a few others have said, they need a legit low post presence. I think Amare is awesome, but for teams to legitimately compete, they need a center who you can run the half court around. Amare is more of a runner, as evidenced by his time on the Suns.

Bosh, Boozer, David Lee, Shaq, Ben Wallace, Yao? Some may be too pricey, but if they wanted to make a legit run at a top tier player, they could probably get creative and figure out a way to shed some salary.

mikantsass
02-03-2010, 02:49 PM
Manu and Camby would be nice additions if they could make the numbers work

OaklandsFinest
02-03-2010, 02:51 PM
They also have 2 or 3 first round picks this year!! I would try and sign either Bosh, Shaq, Wade, or Lebron this off season if I were them. Draft a guy like Demarcus Cousins or Derrick Favors. I think if OKC signed either Wade or Lebron you could put Durant at PF and even though it would be tough for him on defense his offensive game downlow would be unstoppable. But draft young big men will put you there and let Shaq mentor the young big guys if you cant afford the other guys.

magichatnumber9
02-03-2010, 02:54 PM
I think a scrapper like Perkins would be a good fit.

johnwayne
02-03-2010, 02:55 PM
your title makes no sense.

he's trying to be "the cool guy"

Gibby23
02-03-2010, 03:03 PM
I think a scrapper like Perkins would be a good fit.

I think Perkins would be great for that team. Perkins for Harden and Ibaka?

Wade_County
02-03-2010, 03:12 PM
Allen is a FA and Haywood, dont think it would happen but:

PG: Westbrook
SG: Allen
SF: Durant
PF: Green
C: Haywood


looks like a contender to me.

jimbobjarree
02-03-2010, 03:15 PM
if they traded green for boozer they'd be a 4-6 seed but they seem in no rush to make the playoffs

JasonJohnHorn
02-03-2010, 03:28 PM
Low post scorer. If they could get boozer and have green come off the bench I think that would help a lot.


I think Boozer could work and you are right, Green would be a great bench player. He doesn't seem to be a strong enough rebounder to play PF full time, but if he split up his minutes and PF/SF and Kraft Dinner spent some time at SG it would make them deep.

Boozer is certainly the rebounder they need, but I'm not sure if he is the defender they need. But I think the team really does need a strong rebounding and defensive minded C/PF combo. It would help if one of the two had a solid post game, but I think with Kraft Dinner, Green, and Westbrook the have some good scoring, and they have a good rebounder in Collison coming off the bench.

Jemaine O'Neal is not the answer. He has proven both this season and last that he is not the player he was and though he is capable of putting up all-star numbers on given nights, he can't post those numbers consistently, but I'm not even sure Jordan could have won a title with Krstic at center.

They need a defensive minded forward or center like Ben Wallace (only younger- I actually thought they had that in the Chandler trade last season, but they nixed the deal) who can work the boards and a rebounder who has some post moves and a decent jumper (like a P.J. Brown type of guy, or McDyess, but obviously younger).

I'm still scratching my head at teh Krstic signing :eyebrow:

Oh, and they'd better hope that James Harden's FG% jumps up in his sophomore season. I won't be too picky because many rookies have that issue, but your shooting guard should be able to shoot. Harden does work the boards (gets over three a game in 20 minutes which is pretty good for a rookie guard) and moves the ball (almost a 2-1 assist-to-turnover ratio- also pretty good for a rookie shooting guard, that's a better ratio than Wade's rookie season) and statistically shows up on defence (a steal a game). He is shooting over 80% from the line, and usually guys that can shoot from the line can shoot, so lets hope for OKC's sake that next season his FG% is up aroudn 45%.

But yeah, if these guys can draft a decent rebounder in the draft and/or use their 13 mil and their mid-level excpetion to sign a couple front court guys this team will be able to bang with the best of the west, but recruiting may be harder than one thinks and even though there is room under the cap, the owners may not be willing to spend it.

Gibby23
02-03-2010, 03:30 PM
I think Boozer could work and you are right, Green would be a great bench player. He doesn't seem to be a strong enough rebounder to play PF full time, but if he split up his minutes and PF/SF and Kraft Dinner spent some time at SG it would make them deep.

Boozer is certainly the rebounder they need, but I'm not sure if he is the defender they need. But I think the team really does need a strong rebounding and defensive minded C/PF combo. It would help if one of the two had a solid post game, but I think with Kraft Dinner, Green, and Westbrook the have some good scoring, and they have a good rebounder in Collison coming off the bench.

Jemaine O'Neal is not the answer. He has proven both this season and last that he is not the player he was and though he is capable of putting up all-star numbers on given nights, he can't post those numbers consistently, but I'm not even sure Jordan could have won a title with Krstic at center.

They need a defensive minded forward or center like Ben Wallace (only younger- I actually thought they had that in the Chanlder trade last season, but they nixed the deal) who can work the boards and a rebounder who has some post moves and a decent jumper (like a P.J. Brown type of guy, or McDyess, but obviously younger).

I'm still scratching my head at teh Krstic signing :eyebrow:

Oh, and they'd better hope that James Harden's FG% jumps up in his sophomore season. I won't be too picky because many rookies have that issue, but your shooting guard should be able to shoot. Harden does work the boards (gets over three a game in 20 minutes which is pretty good for a rookie guard) and moves the ball (almost a 2-1 assist-to-turnover ratio- also pretty good for a rookie shooting guard, that's a better ration than Wade's rookie season) and statistically shows up on defence (a steal a game). He is shooting over 80% from the line, and usually guys that can shoot from the line can shoot, so lets hope for OKC's sake that next season his FG% is up aroudn 45%.

But yeah, if these guys can draft a decent rebounder in the draft and/or use their 13 mil and their mid-level excpetion to sign a couple front court guys this team will be able to bang with the best of the west, but recruiting may be harder than one thinks and even though there is room under the cap, the owners may not be willing to spend it.
No MLE if you have cap space.

DaBUU
02-03-2010, 03:54 PM
Imagine Chris Bosh at PF for the Thunder, sickness

Carey
02-03-2010, 04:29 PM
I think we are productive Center away from being a playoff team, and experience and development from being a contender. I love the young core of Durant, Green, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, Sefolosha, Maynor, and Mullens they need one veteran productive big to get over the hump, that'll be kinda difficult to find but with the cap space we have and 2 first and 2 2nd in the 2010 draft we'll have enough assets to get one. My approach would be to let the young guys grow together and compete long term instead of maybe rushing it to chase a playoff appearance or 2. These arent even as good as they will be which is scary, especially for Durant.

DaBUU
02-03-2010, 04:33 PM
[QUOTE=Carey;12186886]I think we are productive Center away from being a playoff team, and experience and development from being a contender. I love the young core of Durant, Green, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, Sefolosha, Maynor, and Mullens they need one veteran productive big to get over the hump, that'll be kinda difficult to find but with the cap space we have and 2 first and 2 2nd in the 2010 draft we'll have enough assets to get one. My approach would be to let the young guys grow together and compete long term instead of maybe rushing it to chase a playoff appearance or 2. These arent even as good as they will be which is scary, especially for Durant.[/QU

If they can get a big that fits and this team is allowed to grow together for the next few years, Thunder will be the best team in the west for a couple of title runs

KG2TB
02-03-2010, 04:43 PM
How about Mike Miller and Marcus Camby?

Westbrook
Miller
KD
Green
Camby

kjdills13
02-03-2010, 04:45 PM
they could contend this year if they got amare, amare westbrook and durant would be a FORCE!!!!!! idk if anyone in the league could defend that.

Suns get- Green and Harden

Thunder get- Amare, Leondro Barbosa


Thunder line up

Westbrook
sefolosha
Durant
Amare
Krstic

Bench

Collison
Manor
Barbosa

Barbosa and westbrook would be the fastes back court in the NBA imagine running the fast break with westbrook, barbosa, durant, and amare.

Suns lineup

Nash
J-rich
Hill
Green
Lopez

bench

Dragic
Harden
Dudle
Amundson
Fry

the suns get 2 young players in return for there superstar and they get a player in green who fits in the offense well. Harden is also a bigger guard which is what the suns need

Carey
02-03-2010, 04:50 PM
they could contend this year if they got amare, amare westbrook and durant would be a FORCE!!!!!! idk if anyone in the league could defend that.

Suns get- Green and Harden

Thunder get- Amare, Leondro Barbosa


Thunder line up

Westbrook
sefolosha
Durant
Amare
Krstic

Bench

Collison
Manor
Barbosa

Barbosa and westbrook would be the fastes back court in the NBA imagine running the fast break with westbrook, barbosa, durant, and amare.

Suns lineup

Nash
J-rich
Hill
Green
Lopez

bench

Dragic
Harden
Dudle
Amundson
Fry

the suns get 2 young players in return for there superstar and they get a player in green who fits in the offense well. Harden is also a bigger guard which is what the suns need

The reason Amare is one the trading block is because they dont want to pay him max money and he's gonna opt out. No way we give up Green and Harden in a trade for him, they dont have that much leverage

NYKnicks4511
02-03-2010, 04:56 PM
If you guys can trade up from the 15th spot (likely around where you'll be drafting?) to a 6-10 pick I would take DeMarcus Cousins or even Cole Aldrich if he's still on the board.

IMO getting Ray Allen as your SG to mentor Harden and the younger players as well as giving you a dead eye shooter and pretty solid D at his age - I would jump on that.

OKC is a Center and a vet away from being a Championship contender.

Carey
02-03-2010, 05:20 PM
If you guys can trade up from the 15th spot (likely around where you'll be drafting?) to a 6-10 pick I would take DeMarcus Cousins or even Cole Aldrich if he's still on the board.

IMO getting Ray Allen as your SG to mentor Harden and the younger players as well as giving you a dead eye shooter and pretty solid D at his age - I would jump on that.

OKC is a Center and a vet away from being a Championship contender.

We were just talking about Aldrich in the Thunder forum, I think he can be a double double guy right off the bat but probably never be a great scorer. Cousins has the upside and could be a great center in time but we have so much young talent that i'd kinda like to see a more finished product, especially since we have a project in Mullens already.

Baller1
02-03-2010, 05:22 PM
Kendrick Perkins and Ray Allen would be perfect. However, I don't think there's anyway to swing a trade with Boston for those two without destroying the youth movement we've got going.

Even just Perkins though. Perkins is exactly the type of player we need.

ZHawk1123
02-03-2010, 05:31 PM
I don't think they need to make 2010 moves to contend... They just need a legit big man...

Derick713
02-03-2010, 05:37 PM
You'd think Chris Bosh is who they'd like to sign. Maybe offering Jeff Green in a sign and trade for Bosh works.

Russell Westbrook/Erick Maynor/
James Harden/Thabo Sefalosha/
Kevin Durant/Draft Pick/
Chris Bosh/DJ White/
Brendan Haywood/BJ Mullens/

soonabooma
02-04-2010, 01:22 AM
Right now, we have 6 guys that I would consider untradeable....Durant, Green, Westbrook, Ibaka, Sefolosha, and Harden. Obviously, people would say that anybody after Durant and Westbrook should be fair game, but this core is too strong to start breaking it up now. Harden is gonna be a very good player for us, Sefolosha is our defensive specialist, and Ibaka has to potential to be a beast that can do it all, the kind of guy we need, just still very young. Eric Maynor is a heck of a backup PG for Westbrook and could start for a lot of teams. He's a valuable piece but that's why he could be used in a trade, becuz he can bring value. But we don't want to trade any of our young stars, the untouchables. If we find a good deal that allows us to get rid of expiring contracts, draft picks, and players we don't need then that's fine, otherwise, we need to just focus on targeting some free agents this summer and giving that our best shot.

There are alot of guys that could help us become a true contender, but there's nobody I'd rather have than Bosh. The guy is an incredible player, and he would absolutely fit well with our young team. If we could get a guy like him, we'd be set. We wouldn't even need to go out and get a top notch center, becuz having a guy like Bosh on the floor is like having a great center. It's the same thing with KG. Garnett does all the same things a center can do in a smaller, but more athletic body. That's what Bosh could do for us. It's gonna be hard for us to get him, but if we do.....IT'S ON.:box:

CAVS21
02-04-2010, 04:10 AM
I think we are productive Center away from being a playoff team, and experience and development from being a contender. I love the young core of Durant, Green, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, Sefolosha, Maynor, and Mullens they need one veteran productive big to get over the hump, that'll be kinda difficult to find but with the cap space we have and 2 first and 2 2nd in the 2010 draft we'll have enough assets to get one. My approach would be to let the young guys grow together and compete long term instead of maybe rushing it to chase a playoff appearance or 2. These arent even as good as they will be which is scary, especially for Durant.


:clap: I totally agree, the potential of their core is flat out SCARY GOOD, and the more I see Durantula play the better it seems his Defense is getting...they aren't far from being a consistant threat in the west

NYKnicks4511
02-04-2010, 05:44 PM
We were just talking about Aldrich in the Thunder forum, I think he can be a double double guy right off the bat but probably never be a great scorer. Cousins has the upside and could be a great center in time but we have so much young talent that i'd kinda like to see a more finished product, especially since we have a project in Mullens already.

Yeah I forgot about BJ Mullins but I'd say Aldrich/Cousins have higher ceilings than BJ does.

Aldrich won't be a spectacular scorer but do you guys really need a high scoring center? Westbrook is explosive at the point, Durant is going to get his 30 a night, Green is a strong finisher and can stretch out to the three point line, Harden and Bench can give you 30 a night as well - more often than not Aldrich/ <Center> won't have to be relied upon to score the basketball. Think about David Lee when he came up in NY, he was a shallow water player, 8-10 feet and in. He still has almost NOTHING called for him during a game but still gets 19 and 11 boards. I think Aldrich can easily surpass Lee, and Cousins can as well if he stays out of foul trouble as his college stats are in approx. 25 mins a game.

Think about it, Russell Westbrook is a glove on the perimeter defense, Durant is a good defender and very long, same goes for Green - adding Aldrich or Cousins would solidify your front court (and starters) for the next decade or so.

HouRealCoach
02-04-2010, 06:45 PM
Draft Pittman, Vanardo, and Vasquez. Sign Bosh

Krystic/ Pittman/ Mullens
Bosh/ Collison/ Vanardo
Durant/ Green/ Weaver
Sefolosha/ Harden/ Vasquez
Westbrook/ Maynor

Sign a MLE and they would be good to go

THISISDAYEAR
02-04-2010, 07:03 PM
The Thunder will be up there once Kobe retires

Mckphins
02-04-2010, 07:25 PM
Still wish they were the sonics!