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29$JerZ
02-01-2010, 07:41 PM
This is just out of my own curiosity too see what other teams fans think of Lee's value.

What type of deal will Lee likely be offered by other teams come 2010?

I think the fact some teams are putting all their eggs in 1 basket for 2010 might lose out on Amar'e/Bosh/Dirk/etc they will spend money on guys like Lee/RFA Rudy/etc

Thoughts?

MiamiHeat
02-01-2010, 07:41 PM
donkey balls

29$JerZ
02-01-2010, 07:42 PM
donkey balls

Really?

Wow.

How insightful.

MiamiHeat
02-01-2010, 07:47 PM
Really?

Wow.

How insightful.

anytime. ;)

:love:

Cowboys123456
02-01-2010, 08:00 PM
50 million over 5

Kakaroach
02-01-2010, 08:03 PM
He'd get a pretty decent contract. Nothing too much cuz teams are wary of D'antoni's system.

He will get paid though once the other free agents are taken.

mjqusoldier
02-01-2010, 08:05 PM
i know 1 thing Lee would be the 2nd best player on the heat so donkey bal that

mjqusoldier
02-01-2010, 08:07 PM
He'd get a pretty decent contract. Nothing too much cuz teams are wary of D'antoni's system.

He will get paid though once the other free agents are taken.

has nothing to do with the system anymore. knicks aren't a fastbreak team and actually run a regular offense now

29$JerZ
02-01-2010, 08:07 PM
He'd get a pretty decent contract. Nothing too much cuz teams are wary of D'antoni's system.

He will get paid though once the other free agents are taken.

But Mike's system isn't the SSOL

We run a half court set offense now since Duhon doesn't bring the ball up and Lee is scoring more then last year when we were more of a running/chucking team

Then again Lee gets a lot of pick and rolls so his offensive numbers may be slighly inflated but not because of the system imo.

I think he is going to demand more then last year and l;ast year he wanted 12 million a year :speechless:

madiaz3
02-01-2010, 08:08 PM
He'd get a pretty decent contract. Nothing too much cuz teams are wary of D'antoni's system.

He will get paid though once the other free agents are taken.

Dantoni did nothing for Lee's stats outside of giving 3 more mpg lol.

dominater6192
02-01-2010, 08:09 PM
I say something like 13 million a year, maybe 5 years 65 mil

TheKing23
02-01-2010, 08:10 PM
5 year, $50-55 million region is what he deserves.

I'm sure some team that still has cap room after LeBron and Wade re-sign will throw that kinda money at him.

Hawkeye15
02-01-2010, 08:11 PM
The Knicks pace is like 10th now. So he doesn't have inflated stats per say. I would think he would be worth somewhere around 5 years, $45 million. 16/11 with active defense is a pretty nice thing for a contender.

Kakaroach
02-01-2010, 08:16 PM
Dantoni did nothing for Lee's stats outside of giving 3 more mpg lol.


But Mike's system isn't the SSOL

We run a half court set offense now since Duhon doesn't bring the ball up and Lee is scoring more then last year when we were more of a running/chucking team

Then again Lee gets a lot of pick and rolls so his offensive numbers may be slighly inflated but not because of the system imo.

I think he is going to demand more then last year and l;ast year he wanted 12 million a year :speechless:


has nothing to do with the system anymore. knicks aren't a fastbreak team and actually run a regular offense now Yeah, but most of the league still thinks that way.

Still, he will get paid. $12 million might be a possibility if the Knicks or Nets can't get anyone else.

Hawkeye15
02-01-2010, 08:18 PM
Al Jefferson is a 22/11 player. He got $12 million a year. David Lee is not worth that money peeps. $9 per year imo

29$JerZ
02-01-2010, 08:21 PM
Al Jefferson is a 22/11 player. He got $12 million a year. David Lee is not worth that money peeps. $9 per year imo

That;s what Donnie is hoping for lol
9 million is the most his contract should even begin with, he isn't an elite/franchise player. He is definitely a player most teams would like at a good price but anything over 10 is star money. I hope I don't see another Ben Gordon signing with my Knicks, that would be awful.

Chacarron
02-01-2010, 08:24 PM
Yeah, but most of the league still thinks that way.

Still, he will get paid. $12 million might be a possibility if the Knicks or Nets can't get anyone else.

And you know this how? Just because you think that way does not mean GMs and coaches think so too. I'm pretty sure they can make a better assessment than you about David Lee and the Knicks' playing style.

Garrett2010
02-01-2010, 08:30 PM
That;s what Donnie is hoping for lol
9 million is the most his contract should even begin with, he isn't an elite/franchise player. He is definitely a player most teams would like at a good price but anything over 10 is star money. I hope I don't see another Ben Gordon signing with my Knicks, that would be awful.

I agree with you. At one time Lee was an underrated player but now he has clearly swung to the opposite side of the spectrum.

Raph12
02-01-2010, 08:34 PM
I'm going to go with something along the lines of 5 years, $40-45 million.

LanceUpperCut
02-01-2010, 08:36 PM
I'd say about 6-8 million a year. If the guy played even average D I'd say 8-10.

NiTEFuRY
02-01-2010, 08:38 PM
$10m is a fair number, if not slightly higher.
He is a double double machine with a ridiculously high motor.

jimbobjarree
02-01-2010, 08:42 PM
6-8mil per year

mjqusoldier
02-01-2010, 08:43 PM
D.Lee deserves 10 million a year

DayDreamz
02-01-2010, 08:46 PM
8mil a year max nothing more. David lee is a solid player but he's not worth 10-12mil

KG2TB
02-01-2010, 08:48 PM
6-8 mil per?? Dude is a double double machine who averages 19 and 11! You're not gonna get him for 6-8 mil per. C'mon now. He's extremely efficient but just not a defensive guy. You need a solid Center to pair with him. I think he'll get 12-12.5 mil and he's worth it.

Shahrose
02-01-2010, 08:49 PM
i think he might get 8mil a year with 500k inc per year

so

35mil over 4 yrs

KG2TB
02-01-2010, 08:57 PM
i think he might get 8mil a year with 500k inc per year

so

35mil over 4 yrs

He'll laugh at 8 mil

smith&wesson
02-01-2010, 08:57 PM
If lee was smart he would stop stroking him self and allow his ego to come back down to earth. What he needs to do is realize that the knicks are trying to do big things in the free agency and want to bring in some big time players. if i was lee i would take a midlevel contract and play with guys like james, joe jonson, amare, or who ever they get. lee wasnt hardly even given a contract with any one last season because he is asking for way too much money. he is not a corner stone of a franchise, hell i wouldnt even really want him as a 2nd option on my team. he is a 20 & 10 guy on a sub par 500 team with no interior presence. his stats are inflated. you put lee on the cavaliers or another contending team in the east and he isnt even the third option on the floor. he wants way too much money. stay in new york and play with whatever big name they get and help that team be signifigant again.

smith&wesson
02-01-2010, 08:59 PM
He'll laugh at 8 mil

he may laugh at 8 mill, but so will all the GM's in the leauge when no one else offers him more.

KG2TB
02-01-2010, 09:01 PM
he may laugh at 8 mill, but so will all the GM's in the leauge when no one else offers him more.

He'll get at least 10 I think. And if the Bulls happen to strike out on all the top dogs, I wouldn't be too upset if they signed em for that much. Hopefully it won't come to that though.

Shahrose
02-01-2010, 09:05 PM
He'll laugh at 8 mil

David Lee #42 C
Salary 2010: $7,000,000

uhhh no he wouldnt. that would be a 1mil inc

D.Lee is 19.6/11.5 a game (making 7mil)
last season he was 16/11.8

pretty sure he wouldnt get 3mil more for scoring 4 more pts this season.
8-9mil is max he should get paid a year

Shahrose
02-01-2010, 09:07 PM
He'll get at least 10 I think. And if the Bulls happen to strike out on all the top dogs, I wouldn't be too upset if they signed em for that much. Hopefully it won't come to that though.

i am a huge bulls fan and i would be dissapointed if we got him for 10mil a yr
if everyone was gone in FA, id try to get Rudy Gay at like 13/14 instead of lee at 10. but thats because i enjoy watching Rudy Gay play

KG2TB
02-01-2010, 09:10 PM
Rudy Gay...at 13\14 when we have Luol Deng? Hmm...

smith&wesson
02-01-2010, 09:21 PM
He'll get at least 10 I think. And if the Bulls happen to strike out on all the top dogs, I wouldn't be too upset if they signed em for that much. Hopefully it won't come to that though.

im a raps fan and i even hope the bulls get somthing better then lee.

mudvayne387
02-01-2010, 09:23 PM
im a raps fan and i even hope the bulls get somthing better then lee.

Wasn't it Lee who just totally outplayed your boy Bosh last week ?

$ NyC $
02-01-2010, 09:28 PM
Love Lee but the players who played both sides of the court are the ones that deserve and should get the big bucks. He's great offensively, a real good passer, and amazing rebounder but his D is whats gonna keep him away from the big bucks.

$ 10 m and that's a favor. Preferably 9.


On a side note. He would be a pretty good match 4 the Bulls.

LanceUpperCut
02-01-2010, 09:42 PM
Wasn't it Lee who just totally outplayed your boy Bosh last week ?

No must be a diffrent Bosh, the Bosh I remeber got the W on the road after a back to back with 27 points and played a little defence.

kjoke
02-01-2010, 09:53 PM
too much,...

Gideon
02-01-2010, 10:02 PM
Some team will give him between 10-12 mil, but I hope the Knicks get him for 8!

mudvayne387
02-01-2010, 10:14 PM
No must be a diffrent Bosh, the Bosh I remeber got the W on the road after a back to back with 27 points and played a little defence.

Really ? It must have been matador defense then, because I remember Lee scoring 29 and grabbing 18 boards in that game.

dominater6192
02-01-2010, 10:16 PM
David Lee #42 C
Salary 2010: $7,000,000

uhhh no he wouldnt. that would be a 1mil inc

D.Lee is 19.6/11.5 a game (making 7mil)
last season he was 16/11.8

pretty sure he wouldnt get 3mil more for scoring 4 more pts this season.
8-9mil is max he should get paid a year

Lee was demanding 5 years of 50 mill from Knicks as a RFA last year and that was before he developed a consistent jumpshot and was averaging near 20 PPG.

johnwayne
02-01-2010, 10:27 PM
i know 1 thing Lee would be the 2nd best player on the heat so donkey bal that

uhhh i wouldnt say that so fast....i beleive beasly would put up very simular numbers to lee in the dantoni system...i dont know id go with beasly

Shahrose
02-01-2010, 10:42 PM
Lee was demanding 5 years of 50 mill from Knicks as a RFA last year and that was before he developed a consistent jumpshot and was averaging near 20 PPG.

yea and he ended up getting a one yr 7m so that proves nothing
honestly though, i dont think he is going to stay with the knicks

ldc62
02-01-2010, 11:08 PM
I say something like 13 million a year, maybe 5 years 65 mil

:facepalm:

Who ever gives that is an idiot. I say 10 mill at the most.

ldc62
02-01-2010, 11:10 PM
Lee was demanding 5 years of 50 mill from Knicks as a RFA last year and that was before he developed a consistent jumpshot and was averaging near 20 PPG.

Things haven't changed... they give Lee the ball on every possession, I hope he would have better numbers than last year. IMO hes probably going to get around that.

dominater6192
02-01-2010, 11:19 PM
yea and he ended up getting a one yr 7m so that proves nothing
honestly though, i dont think he is going to stay with the knicks

yeah but it was either take the 7 mill or get his ten mill in Greece haha. Last year, no one except Pistons were really willing to spend money because most other teams were waiting for 2010. For the teams that miss out on big fish in 2010 I could see one offer Lee a similar contract to Boozers this year but prob a lil less so about 11-12 million. Lee has been one of the best Centers in East these last two years and looks like he is only getting better.

I do agree though I doubt he winds up back with Knicks, the Knicks are obsessed with the idea of getting a LeBron and a Bosh, so I see them pursuing them, failing, and then having to try and sign Lee desperately at end of the summer which at that point I think he will have already signed with someone or he wo'nt be interested in signing back with Knicks. I know last year Lee and his agent were ticked that the Knicks lowballed him and did'nt offer him a long term deal, if they do it again this summer I doubt he'll be back.

Becks2307
02-02-2010, 12:02 AM
uhhh i wouldnt say that so fast....i beleive beasly would put up very simular numbers to lee in the dantoni system...i dont know id go with beasly

dude what system ? we run a half court offense

RaptorizedKevin
02-02-2010, 12:14 AM
at least 12 million. that man works ****ing hard for this knick teams, and people are saying he deserves 9 mil? STOP BEING A HATER. the man is a solid player, other than his defense. he should get at least 12 mil, i think he deserves 15, without him the knicks would be like the nets.

smith&wesson
02-02-2010, 12:15 AM
Wasn't it Lee who just totally outplayed your boy Bosh last week ?

HAHAHAHAHA thats a joke right ?? did you watch the game ? obviously not.

bosh went for 27 points and 15 rebounds a steal and a block oh and the raps won. yeah lee totally out played bosh. pfffffttt.


dude know what your saying atleast.

david lee can average 50 points a game and 20 rebounds a game. if the knicks are still losing those are inflated stats. period.

sunnydayin'zona
02-02-2010, 12:45 AM
dude what system ? we run a half court offense

people assuming d'antoni's system is ssol is dumb, the only reason they think that is because he is famous for doing that system in phoenix, which was done because it was the perfect way to utilize nash's talents.

d'antoni is an offensive genius in more than one system.

RaptorizedKevin
02-02-2010, 12:46 AM
peopel have no love for knick players. its not fair.

Bluffmasta
02-02-2010, 12:53 AM
i think lee will settle for the MLE if he doesnt resign with teh knicks, any team with money will persue the big names and once they obtain them might look at lee as a complementary player and offer him the MLE

BkOriginalOne
02-02-2010, 12:59 AM
8-10 mil per year off the pine for a great team.
I could see Lee on the Magic, Lakers, Blazers, and even the Nuggets.

mudvayne387
02-02-2010, 01:04 AM
HAHAHAHAHA thats a joke right ?? did you watch the game ? obviously not.

bosh went for 27 points and 15 rebounds a steal and a block oh and the raps won. yeah lee totally out played bosh. pfffffttt.


dude know what your saying atleast.

david lee can average 50 points a game and 20 rebounds a game. if the knicks are still losing those are inflated stats. period.

Watched every single minute of the game. Perhaps your the one with fuzzy memory. Do I really need to post Lee's stats again ? He single handily kept the Knicks in that game. Im not sure if your aware, but the Knicks don't exactly have an All-Star supporting cast. For him to go off for 29-18-3 against the leagues "premier PF/C" is considered outplaying someone. And stop being an idiot. Inflated stats are someone scoring 30 pts when his team lost by 20. The Knicks had the game in hand with 1 minute remaining. So Bud, before you bash someone elses post think about what your shooting out of your pale Canadian Bum.

Weezy
02-02-2010, 01:11 AM
^ouch.

Anyways, I believe Lee will get 10-11.5 mil per. Thats my guess.

knickerbockerny
02-02-2010, 01:25 AM
Watched every single minute of the game. Perhaps your the one with fuzzy memory. Do I really need to post Lee's stats again ? He single handily kept the Knicks in that game. Im not sure if your aware, but the Knicks don't exactly have an All-Star supporting cast. For him to go off for 29-18-3 against the leagues "premier PF/C" is considered outplaying someone. And stop being an idiot. Inflated stats are someone scoring 30 pts when his team lost by 20. The Knicks had the game in hand with 1 minute remaining. So Bud, before you bash someone elses post think about that your shooting out of your pale Canadian Bum.

He's right. The Knicks where up by 4 with 1 minute left in the 4th quater, when Al Harrington made a bone head mistake fouling Hedo way behind the arc. Hedo made 2 of 3 free throws then Al Harrington made another bonehead mistake by going one on two against Bosh and Barg, getting his shot blocked by Barg. If the Knicks would have sub Al Harrington out the game we could have pulled that game out lol.

With all of that said depending on how the chips fall with Bron, Bosh and Wade, Lee should expect 11-12 mil annually. I do agree with a previous poster that Lee needs to be paired with an athletic center.

kikeyanez
02-02-2010, 01:27 AM
david lee is a good basketball player but the problem the guy is white! so he'll get a contract offer between 4 to 7 mill per year! if he was black he would get 13 million

mudvayne387
02-02-2010, 01:34 AM
He's right. The Knicks where up by 4 with 1 minute left in the 4th quater, when Al Harrington made a bone head mistake fouling Hedo way behind the arc. Hedo made 2 of 3 free throws then Al Harrington made another bonehead mistake by going one on two against Bosh and Barg, getting his shot blocked by Barg. If the Knicks would have sub Al Harrington out the game we could have pulled that game out lol.

With all of that said depending on how the chips fall with Bron, Bosh and Wade, Lee should expect 11-12 mil annually. I do agree with a previous poster that Lee needs to be paired with an athletic center.

I agree, Lee is excellent one on one. He can use his "ambidexterity" to get to the hoop. I think he needs to be paired with a defensive minded center who clogs up the paint. If the Knicks can bring him back for 10-11 million, I would love to see them somehow bring in Camby.

steveshane67
02-02-2010, 01:38 AM
Yeah, but most of the league still thinks that way. (talking to ppl pointing out that dantoni doesnt run anymore)


Im guessing that the ppl whos job it is to be in NBA front offices are aware of this. casual fans might not know, but id have a hard time believing anyone with any connection to the NBA doesnt know.

knickerbockerny
02-02-2010, 01:50 AM
I agree, Lee is excellent one on one. He can use his "ambidexterity" to get to the hoop. I think he needs to be paired with a defensive minded center who clogs up the paint. If the Knicks can bring him back for 10-11 million, I would love to see them somehow bring in Camby.

Ah, I see you reached for your inner Walt Clyde Frazier lol!:cool:

KG2TB
02-02-2010, 02:55 AM
I actually seen a post about Lee getting the MLE. Wow. It's funny when people say his stats are inflated, or they feed him the ball all the time...well...when you shoot over 50% from the floor, you should get the ball. Lee is not a great defender, and he's not a 'sexy' name with flashy game. He doesn't jump out of the gym or cross you over. What he does is get the job done and grabs a hell of a lotta boards and comes with a practically guaranteed double double every night. And you guys wanna pay him 7 mil a year? Are you nuts? Why is Lee so underrated because he's not a great defender? There's not many premier defensive PF's who are also an offensive threat anyways. If he doesn't get at least 10 mil I would be SHOCKED

mudvayne387
02-02-2010, 03:14 AM
Ah, I see you reached for your inner Walt Clyde Frazier lol!:cool:

Wouldn't leave home without it !

MU and UW Fan
02-02-2010, 03:31 AM
I say he gets somewhere between 8-12 million a yr. someone might overpay him and pay him more toward 12 million/yr but 10 million/yr is what i would expect.

$KnicksAndKobe$
02-02-2010, 06:37 AM
hmm I guess 9million, but he will demand 12+

NBA-GMaster
02-02-2010, 06:45 AM
He would get less 10Mil/year.. He's underrated player..

nipo10847
02-02-2010, 06:50 AM
i know 1 thing Lee would be the 2nd best player on the heat so donkey bal that

lol @ u. D'Antonie's system= Inflated stats. If you didnt know that before, I just wasted my 1 min on ur post.

nolin
02-02-2010, 06:57 AM
David lee will get no more than 8-9 mil a year imo. hes putting up great numbers because the knicks dont have many options.

nolin
02-02-2010, 07:00 AM
Theres no way David Lee gets 10 mil a year. If any of you were a GM would you pay him 10 mil a year? hes a nice player but his game isnt to pretty. < if that makes any since idk just know he wont get more than 8-9 mil over 5 years.

29$JerZ
02-02-2010, 09:51 AM
lol @ u. D'Antonie's system= Inflated stats. If you didnt know that before, I just wasted my 1 min on ur post.

Since you seem to know it all explain how Mike's inflated system affects Lee's stats when we are 10th in pace and run a half court offense with the worst PG in the NBA?

NY doesn't run a SSOL offense or anything close to it :facepalm:

cubulls
02-02-2010, 10:23 AM
No chance he settles for less than 10 mil. Great numbers, great work ethic; A double, double machine. He continues to be snubbed from deserving accolades. I wouldn't be surprised if gets 11-12 mil per year.

Carey
02-02-2010, 10:24 AM
5 year, $50-55 million region is what he deserves.

I'm sure some team that still has cap room after LeBron and Wade re-sign will throw that kinda money at him.

spot on!

camador22
02-02-2010, 12:17 PM
He will get 13M a year for 5 years (65M) EASY. Some team that doesn't end up with Bosh, and Amare will pay up that kind of money. It will probably end up being Toronto, NY, NJ, Chicago and OKC that competes for him. His value realisticly could go all the way up to 15M a year.

sep11ie
02-02-2010, 12:44 PM
I'm agreeing with the 5/45-50. How many teams will have THAT much cap room after the big 5 sign?

spreadeagle
02-02-2010, 12:59 PM
Hes a beast.Id give em 12-13 mil a season

colinskik
02-02-2010, 01:00 PM
lol @ u. D'Antonie's system= Inflated stats. If you didnt know that before, I just wasted my 1 min on ur post.
How many times are people going to use this reasoning to try and prove their point (in this thread!) when it's completely not true. It's annoying at this point that some people have no idea what goes on in the NBA and just rely on these stereotypes that have somehow gained credibility with these casual fans. If you actually watched a Knicks game you would see they slow the pace down even when they have opportunities for fast break points -- especially with Duhon running the show.

td0tsfinest
02-02-2010, 01:06 PM
He's a good rebounder but his defense isn't that great. I can see him getting around 8-10 Mill a year.

RaptorizedKevin
02-02-2010, 01:14 PM
all new york needs to do is sign lebron, sign lee and sign camby, and sig na really good PG , and they set for a championship run :]

29$JerZ
02-02-2010, 01:16 PM
all new york needs to do is sign lebron, sign lee and sign camby, and sig na really good PG , and they set for a championship run :]

If we had a real Pg now we'd be a 5-8th seed already in the East

Hawkeye15
02-02-2010, 01:30 PM
If this were 2005, he would get $13 million a year. But the salaries have gone down, there are only a few teams with huge money, and they will chase LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Johnson, and Gay for example. Lee will end up having to settle for around $8-9 million a year. Its simple math.
And asking what a player is worth is a valid, but sensless question. All NBA players are overpaid. None of them are worth what they make

KG2TB
02-02-2010, 02:57 PM
Let's think about it...

Bosh is gonna get a max deal

Amar'e will PROBABLY get a max deal or if anything get 13-14 mil

Boozer has a chance for a max but will probably end up getting 12-14 mil

Lee has to get at least 10 mil because you could argue he's better than both Amar'e and Boozer. Or at least on par with them MINUS the injury history which you HAVE to take into account.

Tony_Starks
02-02-2010, 02:59 PM
I'll put it like this Anderson Varejao just got a deal for 5 years and nearly $50 million with the last and most expensive year a team option. Now while Cleveland was obviously smoking some very potent crack, it at least sets some kind of benchmark.

I see Lee getting something similar.

Raidaz4Life
02-02-2010, 06:31 PM
I personally have a hardon for David Lee so I would offer him in the range of 5 years at 12.5 per