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JordansBulls
01-13-2010, 09:43 PM
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Gators123
01-13-2010, 09:44 PM
Celtics
Cavs

Vinny642
01-13-2010, 09:50 PM
Bull(LOL)
Jazz

jimbobjarree
01-13-2010, 09:56 PM
Jazz rolling and unbeaten on tnt for a long time (that i can remember)

should be a cracker!

Kakaroach
01-13-2010, 10:04 PM
Whoooo Jazz big game on TNT.

Ryan328
01-13-2010, 10:04 PM
Celtics
Cavs

Vinny642
01-13-2010, 11:18 PM
Al Thorton is garbage :puke: What happened?

GoatMilk
01-14-2010, 12:17 AM
watch the pregame show on TNT


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This one-round slam dunk-in competition will be held during halftime of the T-Mobile Rookie Challenge & Youth Jam on Friday, Feb. 12, and fans will determine the winner by voting via SMS text message and at NBA.com.

The NBA All-Star Slam Dunk-In will air live on TNT, which will televise the T-Mobile Rookie Challenge & Youth Jam (9 p.m. ET) from American Airlines Center in Dallas.

TNT will announce the participants in the NBA All-Star Slam Dunk-In on-air during NBA

Jays Claw
01-14-2010, 12:34 AM
Chicago @ Boston
Cleveland @ Utah

tr4shb0t
01-14-2010, 12:39 AM
boston and cleveland probably, but hopefully they are good fair games

Iron24th
01-14-2010, 05:11 AM
I pick celtics and jazz to win.

TheKing23
01-14-2010, 11:07 AM
Chicago @ Boston
Cleveland @ Utah

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-14-2010, 03:25 PM
underdogs will win

Bulls
Jazz

lavilevi23
01-14-2010, 03:44 PM
Jazz & Celtics

GodsSon
01-14-2010, 04:39 PM
Celtics and Jazz

RaptorsFanatic
01-14-2010, 05:16 PM
Today we will see if Derrick Rose is really back or not...

scandaless2
01-14-2010, 06:41 PM
go Bulls

thedfactor
01-14-2010, 06:53 PM
Keltics and Kavs

FaM0us Skins
01-14-2010, 07:42 PM
Celtics, Jazz

Gators123
01-14-2010, 08:02 PM
Is Rasheed playing?

RadiantShot
01-14-2010, 08:17 PM
I'm going to go out on a huge limb and say that the Utah Jazz will upset the Cleveland Cavaliers. However, I believe the Celtics will put out a win against Chicago.

Gators123
01-14-2010, 09:05 PM
I love TNT lol

C_A_S_H
01-14-2010, 09:22 PM
Celtics
Cavs

IndiansFan337
01-14-2010, 09:47 PM
The Bulls are the most aggressive team through 1Q.

Hinirch is getting to the hoop at will. Perkins or another big needs to knock him down once or twice & let him know that he's not welcome in the paint. KG & Sheed sure would do it.

RadiantShot
01-14-2010, 09:54 PM
Is it too late to change my mind and switch my entries?

Bulls, Cavs.

IndiansFan337
01-14-2010, 09:56 PM
I think the C's are going to turn this into a nail biter heading into the second half.

RadiantShot
01-14-2010, 10:02 PM
I think the C's are going to turn this into a nail biter heading into the second half.

I'd hope so. This game is in the Bulls' favor right now. They were demolishing the first quarter, now it's starting to slow down. I hope it comes down to 2 or 3 points in the second half. Spice my night up Celtics!

hawkeyefootball
01-14-2010, 10:02 PM
Today we will see if Derrick Rose is really back or not...

We won't. Rose will barely see time this half after three fouls. Two of which were complete bull ****.

KH12
01-14-2010, 10:03 PM
The referees took Derrick Rose out of this half, unreal ****ing ********.

RadiantShot
01-14-2010, 10:08 PM
The referees took Derrick Rose out of this half, unreal ****ing ********.

Sucks. I like to watch Rose. At least Luol is making up for it. 5/5 from the field, that's good, I like how he steps up.

RadiantShot
01-14-2010, 10:19 PM
Not going to lie, that was an AWFUL decision not to call that offensive foul.

boms-4
01-14-2010, 10:38 PM
i cant wait to see what how they do with Rose seeing limited minutes with 3 fouls at half

IndiansFan337
01-14-2010, 11:03 PM
I expected Boston to get this closer as the game continued, but Bulls still look to be in control...

Chacarron
01-14-2010, 11:52 PM
Good win for the Bulls.

JordansBulls
01-15-2010, 12:00 AM
Great win at the Garden today.

IndiansFan337
01-15-2010, 12:01 AM
The Cavs are off to a really nice start here....

IndiansFan337
01-15-2010, 12:09 AM
Still up 5, nearing end of 1Q.

A W would clinch a winning West Coast trip for them.

_KB24_
01-15-2010, 12:29 AM
Let's make it 2/2, c'mon Jazz!

goku
01-15-2010, 12:36 AM
d-will crossed the hell out off west

IndiansFan337
01-15-2010, 12:41 AM
The Cavs D looks terrible. We are lucky to be winning right now after giving up so many second chance points, offensive rebounds, etc.

IndiansFan337
01-15-2010, 12:54 AM
We ended that half on a strong note, up 7.

Solid lead at halftime, on the road.

We've got to eliminate their offensive rebounds in the second half. We probably can't depend on our bench to score as much as we did in the 2Q either.

tr4shb0t
01-15-2010, 02:00 AM
edit: nevermind

boms-4
01-15-2010, 02:07 AM
Gaines came up big for the Jazz

thedfactor
01-15-2010, 02:16 AM
Bron is a beast

RocketsRule
01-15-2010, 02:21 AM
This Lebron James kid is pretty good.

tr4shb0t
01-15-2010, 02:23 AM
lmao lebron owned the jazz

TheKing23
01-15-2010, 02:25 AM
OMFG... LeBron

TheKing23
01-15-2010, 02:25 AM
16 in the 4th quarter

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 02:38 AM
Lebron was pretty beast. When he is getting away with the off arm offensive fouls and travels, he is unstoppable.

hawkeyefootball
01-15-2010, 02:39 AM
:laugh2:

Reggie Miller is loving it.

tr4shb0t
01-15-2010, 02:40 AM
holy s! what a shot!

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 02:40 AM
:laugh2: Pretty hilarious how this guy Gaines thinks he won the championship. Anyways, nice little comeback by Gaines and HUGE choke by Lebron refusing to take the free-throws for the Cavaliers. Or should I say shying away from the potential choke? Either way, embarrassing for LBJ.

RocketsRule
01-15-2010, 02:40 AM
Sundiata ****ing Gaines!!!

Havoc Wreaker
01-15-2010, 02:41 AM
lmao lebron owned the jazz

:laugh2:

Theperson18
01-15-2010, 02:41 AM
amazing finish....jesus

tr4shb0t
01-15-2010, 02:43 AM
opportune time to hit your first nba 3-pointer. gaines the next kobe?


:laugh2:

i think i jinxed the cavs. my bad.

Bucsfan
01-15-2010, 02:45 AM
gaines is my hero! what a shot!

TheKing23
01-15-2010, 02:46 AM
:laugh2: Pretty hilarious how this guy Gaines thinks he won the championship. Anyways, nice little comeback by Gaines and HUGE choke by Lebron refusing to take the free-throws for the Cavaliers. Or should I say shying away from the potential choke? Either way, embarrassing for LBJ.

Wow... You really hate LeBron don't you? 18 points in the fourth and you call it a choke... :facepalm:

lakerboy
01-15-2010, 02:46 AM
LMAO LBJ why inbound and avoid FTs?

lakerboy
01-15-2010, 02:47 AM
Wow... You really hate LeBron don't you? 18 points in the fourth and you call it a choke... :facepalm:

If you are LBJ why are you inbounding the ball? It's so stupid! And he didn't just do it for one possession. He did it like 3, 4 times the last 2 minutes.

DODGERS&LAKERS
01-15-2010, 02:48 AM
Lebron was great in the 4th. But why was he taking the ball out of bounds at the end of the game though? I would rather have him shoot free throws over Anthony Parker

WadeCounty
01-15-2010, 02:48 AM
amazing shot lol, idk why but i was rooting for this guy the whole game. Something about him reminds me of a "make your own player" on nba2k10, he's living his dream

Teeboy1487
01-15-2010, 02:48 AM
What happened? How in the hell did the Jazz win? I thought Lebron finished them. Curse me for stop watching.

GoatMilk
01-15-2010, 02:48 AM
If you are LBJ why are you inbounding the ball? It's so stupid! And he didn't just do it for one possession. He did it like 3, 4 times the last 2 minutes.

the other guys are better ft shooters and bron will definitely not turn it over from out of bounds

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 02:51 AM
Wow... You really hate LeBron don't you? 18 points in the fourth and you call it a choke... :facepalm:

Lebron was clutch as ****, but then wanted to not tarnish his clutchness up to the 1 minute mark. He became afraid of the moment. Essentially he averted any and all responsibility.

It's a win-win for LBJ. His fans can say he was clutch if he does or does not win the game (at the point he decided to shy away). The problem? His TEAM lost because of him ultimately.

Lebron, the superstar and leader, HAS to step up and go to the free-throw line for his team. Instead, he blatantly shied away from doing so and his teammates missed just as everybody with brains expected them to do.

Lebron should have, as a supposed MVP and clutch player, stepped up and said: "Give me the damn ball and let me sink two free-throws for the W." (ie Kobe against the Warriors in 2OT when he made 2 free-throws and was visibly seen saying to the Warriors players that "It's over")

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 02:53 AM
the other guys are better ft shooters and bron will definitely not turn it over from out of bounds

Both Parker and Ilgauskas are worse free-throw shooters.

Lebron was afraid of wilting under the pressure after a beast 4th quarter. He decided to take the INDIVIDUAL win. Good for him. The guy takes care of his personal glory.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 02:54 AM
What happened? How in the hell did the Jazz win? I thought Lebron finished them. Curse me for stop watching.

Lebron got scared and the Cavs lost.

thedfactor
01-15-2010, 02:54 AM
Damn that was a crazy finish, sorry Cavs fans, congrats Jazz

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 02:55 AM
If you are LBJ why are you inbounding the ball? It's so stupid! And he didn't just do it for one possession. He did it like 3, 4 times the last 2 minutes.

It's logical for LBJ. And for LBJ, all that matters is LBJ. After such an amazing 4th quarter, he won't have a single bad highlight. Instead, he took the individual W and left the game up to his teammates.

TheKing23
01-15-2010, 02:55 AM
If you are LBJ why are you inbounding the ball? It's so stupid! And he didn't just do it for one possession. He did it like 3, 4 times the last 2 minutes.


Lebron was great in the 4th. But why was he taking the ball out of bounds at the end of the game though? I would rather have him shoot free throws over Anthony Parker

Both of you should do some research before attempting to find a way to bash LeBron...

Anthony Parker: 81.5% free throw (career)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: 78.1% free throw (career)
LeBron James: 74.2% free throw (career)

They are the better free throw shooters, so why would you not have them shooting? LeBron won't turn the ball over inbounding it, and do you think it's his choice if he shoots the free throws? Mike Brown is the coach and I don't care how much control LeBron has over the team... Mike Brown will decide who he wants shooting them.

Rip on Big Z and Parker as much as you want, but LeBron had the game won for the Cavs before a miracle shot, so stfu with your hating.

lakerboy
01-15-2010, 02:58 AM
the other guys are better ft shooters and bron will definitely not turn it over from out of bounds

LBJ is 80% from the FT, and it isn't hard to pass the ball in bounds, unless you're below 6 feet in the NBA

What LBJ did in the last 30 seconds was so embarrassing. He let Z take the FTs for him.

effen5
01-15-2010, 03:00 AM
You want to have your best player shooting free throws at the end.....despite what his ft% is

tr4shb0t
01-15-2010, 03:01 AM
I don't see the big deal with Lebron not taking the FTs in the end. He is just as likely to miss as Parker or Z. It was probably Brown's decision to have him inbound anyway.

TheKing23
01-15-2010, 03:02 AM
I find it hilarious that the only people coming in here and calling LeBron a choker, are Laker fans.

I suppose they're so used to see Kobe jack up 30 shots whatever his condition and cost the team valuable wins, they think every superstar should be a ball hog...

lakerboy
01-15-2010, 03:03 AM
Both of you should do some research before attempting to find a way to bash LeBron...

Anthony Parker: 81.5% free throw (career)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: 78.1% free throw (career)
LeBron James: 74.2% free throw (career)

They are the better free throw shooters, so why would you not have them shooting? LeBron won't turn the ball over inbounding it, and do you think it's his choice if he shoots the free throws? Mike Brown is the coach and I don't care how much control LeBron has over the team... Mike Brown will decide who he wants shooting them.

Rip on Big Z and Parker as much as you want, but LeBron had the game won for the Cavs before a miracle shot, so stfu with your hating.

This year, LBJ is 78% (he's improved his FTs) while Anthony Parker is shooting 77.4, and Z is 76% :facepalm:

Game on the line, "best player in the world" says "OK I'M GOING TO IN BOUND THE BALL TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T TURN IT OVER."

effen5
01-15-2010, 03:03 AM
I don't see the big deal with Lebron not taking the FTs in the end. He is just as likely to miss as Parker or Z. It was probably Brown's decision to have him inbound anyway.

but you want your best players shooting the FT....you dont see Jordan inbounding a ball at the end of the game do you? He wants to shoot those FTs

Bullsfan22
01-15-2010, 03:05 AM
hahaha lebron haters. he did something NO other player can do in the league, by willing his team from down 10 and giving them the lead in that short of time. Lebron is the best individual player in the league PERIOD. Congrats to Gains, it was an incredible shot.

kblo247
01-15-2010, 03:07 AM
Both of you should do some research before attempting to find a way to bash LeBron...

Anthony Parker: 81.5% free throw (career)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: 78.1% free throw (career)
LeBron James: 74.2% free throw (career)

They are the better free throw shooters, so why would you not have them shooting? LeBron won't turn the ball over inbounding it, and do you think it's his choice if he shoots the free throws? Mike Brown is the coach and I don't care how much control LeBron has over the team... Mike Brown will decide who he wants shooting them.

Rip on Big Z and Parker as much as you want, but LeBron had the game won for the Cavs before a miracle shot, so stfu with your hating.

To be honest though I have no problem saying Z blew it, but Parker blew numerous games at the line in Toronto late so that percentage isn't telling and was bad coaching on Brown's part and bad leading on Lebron's to give it to him.

You have to know your personnel's tendencies, both as the leader and coach.

Teeboy1487
01-15-2010, 03:07 AM
You got to be happy for Gaines. He had to get to the nba the hard way. It's really inspiring to see him hit a buzzer beater. I'm so happy for him. As far as Lebron not taking free throws, I honestly did not see it, but in his defense, he is really not a great free throw shooter. However, he is the best player on his team so I would rather him take those free throws than someone else on that team other than Mo williams. I won't say he choked because he was the reason the cavs almost won the game. They would have been blown out without his effort in the fourth.

kblo247
01-15-2010, 03:08 AM
hahaha lebron haters. he did something NO other player can do in the league, by willing his team from down 10 and giving them the lead in that short of time. Lebron is the best individual player in the league PERIOD. Congrats to Gains, it was an incredible shot.

T-Mac versus San Antonio, while getting a W ring a bell?

_KB24_
01-15-2010, 03:08 AM
I haven't seen the game or highlights, but from what I've seen above, I'm siding with Bron here. He isn't a great free throw shooter. He needs to work on em. I would rather have Mo, AP, West, and even Big Z hit the free throws. With that said, I am a little shocked that he didn't go for the kill and demand the ball instead of inbounding, but you can't bash him tonight. He was beastly.

DODGERS&LAKERS
01-15-2010, 03:08 AM
Both of you should do some research before attempting to find a way to bash LeBron...

Anthony Parker: 81.5% free throw (career)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: 78.1% free throw (career)
LeBron James: 74.2% free throw (career)

They are the better free throw shooters, so why would you not have them shooting? LeBron won't turn the ball over inbounding it, and do you think it's his choice if he shoots the free throws? Mike Brown is the coach and I don't care how much control LeBron has over the team... Mike Brown will decide who he wants shooting them.

Rip on Big Z and Parker as much as you want, but LeBron had the game won for the Cavs before a miracle shot, so stfu with your hating.
What are you talking about? When did I hate on Lebron? I asked a valid question. And I don't care what they have shot for their careers. This year, they are both 77% Not too far off Lebrons percentage. Big Z had not taken one free throw all game. He should not have been put in that spot. Should Lebron not have taken those threes at the end of the game because Williams hits 39% for his career which is far better than Lebrons 33% as well? Stop making excuses and admit he should have taken those free throws

lakerboy
01-15-2010, 03:09 AM
To be honest though I have no problem saying Z blew it, but Parker blew numerous games at the line in Toronto late so that percentage isn't telling and was bad coaching on Brown's part and bad leading on Lebron's to give it to him.

You have to know your personnel's tendencies, both as the leader and coach.

Of course Z and Anthony Parker blew it.

It's like giving the ball to Artest or Lamar at the end of the game and expecting them to make 2 FTs. Of course they won't make both!

tr4shb0t
01-15-2010, 03:10 AM
but you want your best players shooting the FT....you dont see Jordan inbounding a ball at the end of the game do you? He wants to shoot those FTs

I understand where you're coming from, but Jordan was a good FT shooter and a killer. You don't see Tim Duncan shooting FT in that situation.

Every player is different. Lebron is a forward, he has his own game and he is good at his own thing. He doesn't have to be good at everything to be dominant.

TheKing23
01-15-2010, 03:10 AM
It's hilarious though... If LeBron had missed half his shots in the fourth and the Cavs had lost by 10 there wouldn't be as much hate.

Yet he brings the Cavs back from a 12-point deficit with 3 minutes left, scores 18 points in the 4th quarter and hits two ridiculous back to back threes, and still gets slated for something he probably had no control over.

kblo247
01-15-2010, 03:11 AM
What are you talking about? When did I hate on Lebron? I asked a valid question. And I don't care what they have shot for their careers. This year, they are both 77% Not too far off Lebrons percentage. Big Z had not taken one free throw all game. He should not have been put in that spot. Should Lebron not have taken those threes at the end of the game because Williams hits 39% for his career which is far better than Lebrons 33% as well? Stop making excuses and admit he should have taken those free throws

Yep, it isn't just a Kobe thing.

It's a Magic, West, Bird, Jordan, Thomas, Dr.J, Wade, Melo, etc. thing.

You are the leader in one of the toughest buildings to play at on the road, so you have to lead in that situation and tell your team I got this when it comes to demanding the ball and knocking down free throws.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:13 AM
Both of you should do some research before attempting to find a way to bash LeBron...

Anthony Parker: 81.5% free throw (career)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: 78.1% free throw (career)
LeBron James: 74.2% free throw (career)

They are the better free throw shooters, so why would you not have them shooting? LeBron won't turn the ball over inbounding it, and do you think it's his choice if he shoots the free throws? Mike Brown is the coach and I don't care how much control LeBron has over the team... Mike Brown will decide who he wants shooting them.

Rip on Big Z and Parker as much as you want, but LeBron had the game won for the Cavs before a miracle shot, so stfu with your hating.

1. This season Lebron is better than them.

2. If Lebron, the superstar and the only glimmer of hope for a horrid franchise, says: "Ay Mike, Ima take care of these free-throws." Mike Brown would get on his knees in an instant and take care of his needs. Fact.

Lebron was scared and shied away from the moment. Fact.

effen5
01-15-2010, 03:15 AM
It's hilarious though... If LeBron had missed half his shots in the fourth and the Cavs had lost by 10 there wouldn't be as much hate.

Yet he brings the Cavs back from a 12-point deficit with 3 minutes left, scores 18 points in the 4th quarter and hits two ridiculous back to back threes, and still gets slated for something he probably had no control over.

and if Lebron went to the line and made all the FT's we would all be praising him for bringing the Cavs back with a ridiculous 4th quarter.


Btw, that giant step back three was a ****in travel.....

Bullsfan22
01-15-2010, 03:16 AM
T-Mac versus San Antonio, while getting a W ring a bell?

he can't do it now so it doesn't matter. i said "that no other player can do" meaning now.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:18 AM
It's hilarious though... If LeBron had missed half his shots in the fourth and the Cavs had lost by 10 there wouldn't be as much hate.

Yet he brings the Cavs back from a 12-point deficit with 3 minutes left, scores 18 points in the 4th quarter and hits two ridiculous back to back threes, and still gets slated for something he probably had no control over.

That's my problem though. Lebron was SO beast and SO clutch, but he decided to mail it in and take the individual victory that he knew he would get from LBJ fans like you. For LBJ fans, there was no loss. Lebron did all he could according to them...and Lebron knows that. He knew that by not shooting the late game free-throws he would avoid any choke at the line. Instead, he decided that he would rather take the game out of his hands, put it in lesser player's hands, and take the individual victory. IMO, that is selfish and ridiculously self-centered. One flaw about Lebron's game is that he is too me-first and less about the team. Once he gets the team aspect down, then he can be truly great. And when I say team aspect, I mean taking shots to win the game...Not passing to teammates. Being for the team means doing all you can for your team whether it is doing more or less. Lebron only looks out for himself at this stage in his career.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:19 AM
This year, LBJ is 78% (he's improved his FTs) while Anthony Parker is shooting 77.4, and Z is 76% :facepalm:

Game on the line, "best player in the world" says "OK I'M GOING TO IN BOUND THE BALL TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T TURN IT OVER."

^ Good point. Hard to say Lebron's the best player in the game when he doesn't have the courage to step up to the line and win a game.

Magic had it. Larry had it. Jordan had it. Kobe has it. Lebron? Not so much.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:20 AM
and if Lebron went to the line and made all the FT's we would all be praising him for bringing the Cavs back with a ridiculous 4th quarter.


Btw, that giant step back three was a ****in travel.....

^ True story on all accounts.

I wish LBJ went to the line, acted like a man, and iced the game. It would have been amazing. Instead he pulls a major choke.

DODGERS&LAKERS
01-15-2010, 03:21 AM
It's hilarious though... If LeBron had missed half his shots in the fourth and the Cavs had lost by 10 there wouldn't be as much hate.

Yet he brings the Cavs back from a 12-point deficit with 3 minutes left, scores 18 points in the 4th quarter and hits two ridiculous back to back threes, and still gets slated for something he probably had no control over.

Like I said, he was great in the 4th. He dropped my jaw at least twice that quarter. But, he still should have asked for the ball at the end of the game. He might as well have scored those 18 in the first half as far as I'm concerned. As a Cavs fan, didn't you want Lebron to shoot ft's over Parker?

Teeboy1487
01-15-2010, 03:23 AM
he can't do it now so it doesn't matter. i said "that no other player can do" meaning now.I disagree. Melo, Wade, Kobe, and Pierce are capable of that in my opinion. Don't underestimate this league man.

Bullsfan22
01-15-2010, 03:23 AM
It's hilarious though... If LeBron had missed half his shots in the fourth and the Cavs had lost by 10 there wouldn't be as much hate.

Yet he brings the Cavs back from a 12-point deficit with 3 minutes left, scores 18 points in the 4th quarter and hits two ridiculous back to back threes, and still gets slated for something he probably had no control over.

dude don't waste your time explaining what he did, they saw it. They are picking out one thing to bash lebron on to take away from the best fourth quarter performances of the year. Lebron has proved he's clutch time in time again but I guess a fan have to hold on to the last thing their favorite player have the advantage in. exposed.

Bullsfan22
01-15-2010, 03:25 AM
I disagree. Melo, Wade, Kobe, and Pierce are capable of that in my opinion. Don't underestimate this league man.

when they do it post a youtube video of it untill then, the bolded is all that matters.

Teeboy1487
01-15-2010, 03:26 AM
when they do it post a youtube video of it untill then, the bolded is all that matters. Ok, I will :D.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:30 AM
dude don't waste your time explaining what he did, they saw it. They are picking out one thing to bash lebron on to take away from the best fourth quarter performances of the year. Lebron has proved he's clutch time in time again but I guess a fan have to hold on to the last thing their favorite player have the advantage in. exposed.

The best 4th quarter performance would have included Lebron going to the line, making or missing it.

I would have had WAY more respect for Lebron is he went up to the line and missed one instead of shying away from it.

Don't you see how wrong it is for your best player to not want to take the game sealing free-throws?

Imagine if Jordan had Luc Longley take the free-throws at the end (intentionally, not just an accidental thing like Longley getting a board). Wouldn't you have been pissed out of your mind?

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:31 AM
Like I said, he was great in the 4th. He dropped my jaw at least twice that quarter. But, he still should have asked for the ball at the end of the game. He might as well have scored those 18 in the first half as far as I'm concerned. As a Cavs fan, didn't you want Lebron to shoot ft's over Parker?

The problem is that he is a Lebron fan. Lebron took care of himself by securing the individual W with his actions. The glasses blind them from the fact that he literally didn't want the responsibility of the end game on his hands.

stawka
01-15-2010, 03:34 AM
20-4 run, (18 of them by LeBron)... Makes his first FT, ends up with the ball in his hand after that... Nails a 3. Mo-Will gets a steal, LeBron for 3 again. Cavs up by 4, Parker and Z choke, we lose coz a D-leaguer hits a gorgeous shot... And the hate on LeBron begins. LMAO!!!

Did you clowns even watch the game? If he isn't the MVP of this season, then Yao is not Chinese. The man simply took over the game. He took and made all the big shots down the stretch.

/ End of thread

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:34 AM
when they do it post a youtube video of it untill then, the bolded is all that matters.

Have you already forgotten the biggest 4th quarter comeback in history?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXEq19VK2pk&feature=related

New to the NBA, huh?

DODGERS&LAKERS
01-15-2010, 03:36 AM
dude don't waste your time explaining what he did, they saw it. They are picking out one thing to bash lebron on to take away from the best fourth quarter performances of the year. Lebron has proved he's clutch time in time again but I guess a fan have to hold on to the last thing their favorite player have the advantage in. exposed.

You are wrong. It's not a Kobe-Lebron debate. If I saw Wade have a 4th quarter like that, and then throw the ball to Chalmers and then Haslem, I would ask the same thing. And yes, if I saw Kobe not ask for the ball and give it to Fisher and then Lamar Odom, and they lost the game for my Lakers, I would call Kobe a ***** for not manning up to the moment

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:36 AM
20-4 run, (18 of them by LeBron)... Makes his first FT, ends up with the ball in his hand after that... Nails a 3. Mo-Will gets a steal, LeBron for 3 again. Cavs up by 4, Parker and Z choke, we lose coz a D-leaguer hits a gorgeous shot... And the hate on LeBron begins. LMAO!!!

Did you clowns even watch the game? If he isn't the MVP of this season, then Yao is not Chinese. The man simply took over the game. He took and made all the big shots down the stretch.

/ End of thread

Nope. There were 4 free-throw attempts with his name on it for him to try to finish off the win and he refused to accept the challenge. FACT.

/ End of thread.

effen5
01-15-2010, 03:37 AM
The best 4th quarter performance would have included Lebron going to the line, making or missing it.

I would have had WAY more respect for Lebron is he went up to the line and missed one instead of shying away from it.

Don't you see how wrong it is for your best player to not want to take the game sealing free-throws?

Imagine if Jordan had Luc Longley take the free-throws at the end (intentionally, not just an accidental thing like Longley getting a board). Wouldn't you have been pissed out of your mind?

Back in those days, there were two people that should take the last shot/FT's for the 90s bulls.....obviously one is Jordan who should take the 99.99999999999999 of the shots whether is FT or final shot but the other person I trusted the most was Steve Kerr.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:37 AM
You are wrong. It's not a Kobe-Lebron debate. If I saw Wade have a 4th quarter like that, and then throw the ball to Chalmers and then Haslem, I would ask the same thing. And yes, if I saw Kobe not ask for the ball and give it to Fisher and then Lamar Odom, and they lost the game for my Lakers, I would call Kobe a ***** for not manning up to the moment

If Wade did that, then it would be even worse since he actually has championship experience to back him up. Can't imagine Wade doing that at all.

Teeboy1487
01-15-2010, 03:39 AM
Have you already forgotten the biggest 4th quarter comeback in history?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXEq19VK2pk&feature=related

New to the NBA, huh? :clap:

effen5
01-15-2010, 03:39 AM
20-4 run, (18 of them by LeBron)... Makes his first FT, ends up with the ball in his hand after that... Nails a 3. Mo-Will gets a steal, LeBron for 3 again. Cavs up by 4, Parker and Z choke, we lose coz a D-leaguer hits a gorgeous shot... And the hate on LeBron begins. LMAO!!!

Did you clowns even watch the game? If he isn't the MVP of this season, then Yao is not Chinese. The man simply took over the game. He took and made all the big shots down the stretch.

/ End of thread

Cavs still lost

/end of thread

kblo247
01-15-2010, 03:40 AM
I am complaining because he pulled that **** at the worst time and set himself up to win on a personal level but his team to lose in the process. He was on fire in the 4th but all of a sudden he decides I don't want to swing big because I might miss big. ***** Move

Do you think Bird, Magic, Nash, Kobe, Jordan, West, Pierce, Melo, Thomas, Iverson, McGrady, or Wade would have shied away from taking those free throws and going to meet the ball especially when they know the personnel on the floor isn't known for making them outside of Z who was cold and their second best free throw shooter was fouled out?

Lebron choked the game away and was basically selfish by not taking those free throws. As the leader, in Utah with that arena and those fans you have to step up, run to the ball, and have the nuts to take those free throws make or miss. Instead he passed them off to Parker who made a living missing clutch free throws in Toronto and Z who had took 1 all game. He set his guys up for failure, while setting himself up for the win as he can say I did all I could even though he *****ed out when they needed their King to say FU Utah.

WITZ
01-15-2010, 03:41 AM
20-4 run, (18 of them by LeBron)... Makes his first FT, ends up with the ball in his hand after that... Nails a 3. Mo-Will gets a steal, LeBron for 3 again. Cavs up by 4, Parker and Z choke, we lose coz a D-leaguer hits a gorgeous shot... And the hate on LeBron begins. LMAO!!!

Did you clowns even watch the game? If he isn't the MVP of this season, then Yao is not Chinese. The man simply took over the game. He took and made all the big shots down the stretch.

/ End of thread

Agreed, Even when Lebron wills his team from 12 down in the last 3 minutes people find a reason to hate :facepalm: . I guess it would have been better if they would have just rolled over since people(Laker Fans) are complaining.

stawka
01-15-2010, 03:42 AM
Nope. There were 4 free-throw attempts with his name on it for him to try to finish off the win and he refused to accept the challenge. FACT.

/ End of thread.

One of the rare times you'll see me do this :facepalm:

But Parker is a better FT shooter, why not give it to Parker? Shaq was a better player than Kobe when they were together in LA, would you see Shaq stepping up and taking FT's to ice a game? Are you telling me LeBron didn't demolish the Jazz singlehandedly tonight? Nobody could have done what he did tonight, the rookie hit a massive shot and the Jazz got the win.

/ End of thread, you're a hater and everyone knows it.

kblo247
01-15-2010, 03:45 AM
One of the rare times you'll see me do this :facepalm:

But Parker is a better FT shooter, why not give it to Parker? Shaq was a better player than Kobe when they were together in LA, would you see Shaq stepping up and taking FT's to ice a game? Are you telling me LeBron didn't demolish the Jazz singlehandedly tonight? Nobody could have done what he did tonight, the rookie hit a massive shot and the Jazz got the win.

/ End of thread, you're a hater and everyone knows it.

Parker missed free throws regularly as a Raptor with the game on the line, and Lebron is a better free throw shooter than Parker this year so don't sugarcoat ****.

He punked out because he didn't want to risk missing them.

tr4shb0t
01-15-2010, 03:46 AM
if the Cavs had won

ESPN headline: "Lebron's clutch inbound gives Cavs another win"

but seriously, I still don't think there's anything wrong with it especially if Lebron isn't having a good FT night.

stawka
01-15-2010, 03:47 AM
So far all I'm seeing is Laker fans hating. Ain't **** changed on PSD. Get over it, your boy has been taken over and that's it. His teammates did nothing all game (and one of his teammates is my favorite player ever)

Don't hate, appreciate... Greatness, punk

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:49 AM
Agreed, Even when Lebron wills his team from 12 down in the last 3 minutes people find a reason to hate :facepalm: . I guess it would have been better if they would have just rolled over since people(Laker Fans) are complaining.

Not hating. Stating facts. Everybody here has admitted he was a beast, but the only people not admitted the whole truth are LBJ fans. He went for the individual W and, as I have seen by the SC highlights, the entire country will see him as a winner because of SportsCenter. Lebron won the game. His team didn't. Here's my thing: The team comes before the player and Lebron doesn't know/hasn't learned that.

kblo247
01-15-2010, 03:50 AM
Babe Ruth: "I swing big and I miss big"

See my beef with what James did?

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:51 AM
So far all I'm seeing is Laker fans hating. Ain't **** changed on PSD. Get over it, your boy has been taken over and that's it. His teammates did nothing all game (and one of his teammates is my favorite player ever)

Don't hate, appreciate... Greatness, punk

My son has been taken over? I wasn't even aware I had a son.

Either way, a top 3 player choked tonight and not by trying and failing (which is not choking), but by intentionally shying away from failure and instead accepting personal glory over a team win.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:53 AM
Babe Ruth: "I swing big and I miss big"

See my beef with what James did?

:clap: Nothing wrong with failing in the big moments when you are a team guy. Glad the Lakers have Kobe who isn't afraid of failure and the big moments.

Bullsfan22
01-15-2010, 03:55 AM
all you laker fans that hate on lebron is so predictable i seriously had fun laughing at all of you flocking in hear to take your shots hahaha.

stawka
01-15-2010, 03:55 AM
The fact that you said "a top 3 player" proves my point. You're a hater. Dude just admit it, I hate Kobe and always will... Admit it and we'll all know that whatever you say about LeBron account for sweet F.A

kblo247
01-15-2010, 03:56 AM
:clap: Nothing wrong with failing in the big moments when you are a team guy. Glad the Lakers have Kobe who isn't afraid of failure and the big moments.

Even though he wasn't as clutch it isn't a Kobe thing.

I had the same beef when it came to Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel. Nick had balls of steel while Eddie had raisins with the game on the line.

Fact is there is a time that you don't put people in a situation that they aren't normally good with if you can help it as the leader.

_KB24_
01-15-2010, 03:56 AM
You guys, I think everyone is going a little overboard on both sides. I mean, what are the odds you lose on a desperation three from a broken play by a rookie D-Leaguer? I am actually laughing as I read that again. I'm not going to judge until I see the full highlights but this is HUGE for the Jazz.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 03:57 AM
But Parker is a better FT shooter

Nope. Not really.


why not give it to Parker?

Lebron is the superstar who was INSANELY hot from the field and is alright from the line.


Shaq was a better player than Kobe when they were together in LA

As Shaq would say, he would take care of the first three (I'm the first jab) and Kobe would take over the clutch in the 4th (Kobe's the 2nd uppercut, KO blow). They shared #1 responsibilities.


would you see Shaq stepping up and taking FT's to ice a game?

Nope. He was awful from the line and their other #1 option was amazing at the line.


Are you telling me LeBron didn't demolish the Jazz singlehandedly tonight?

He totally did! Thanks for agreeing with me finally! Now you understand why I wanted the hottest player on the floor and a top 2-3 NBA player to ice the game, right?


Nobody could have done what he did tonight

You have visions into other dimensions and alternate realities? Cool story.


the rookie hit a massive shot and the Jazz got the win.

True and true. Also true is that he shouldn't have gotten the chance in the first place or at least had a lesser chance of doing so.

Gators123
01-15-2010, 03:58 AM
Lakers fans actually acting like they care what LeBron does lol. Why does it matter? if LeBron would have taken and missed the FT's you guys would be on here saying LeBron sucks and that he should have let his teammates take them. Stop nitpicking his game.

kblo247
01-15-2010, 03:58 AM
^^^ That in a nut shell @ armin


Lakers fans actually acting like they care what LeBron does lol. Why does it matter? if LeBron would have taken and missed the FT's you guys would be on here saying LeBron sucks and that he should have let his teammates take them. Stop nit picking his game.

I care because it is like giving Odom free throws with the game on the line; I care because it is like Rivera asking another pitcher to come from the bull pin and throw the game deciding pitch; I care because it is like
Favre telling Rodgers uh you try to throw the winning pass (if both were in green bay); I care because it is like Batman telling Alfred go catch the Joker for me.

You don't put guys in certain situations.

stawka
01-15-2010, 03:59 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND the Laker fans have ambushed PSD threads again :)

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 04:00 AM
You guys, I think everyone is going a little overboard on both sides. I mean, what are the odds you lose on a desperation three from a broken play by a rookie D-Leaguer? I am actually laughing as I read that again. I'm not going to judge until I see the full highlights but this is HUGE for the Jazz.

The odds were slim. Lebron could have made them non-existent.

I don't get what LBJ fans are arguing. Not one thing I have said is false. He did not step up and take the free-throws. What is there to argue, people!?!? There are facts and opinions. The proof is in the game tape. Watch it and watch Lebron not take free-throws when he was ridiculously hot and easily the best player on the floor (as well as a better FT shooter than Parker/Big Z). It is there. No refuting it.

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 04:01 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND the Laker fans have ambushed PSD threads again :)

Glad you didn't refute my points. Well, I guess it is hard to refute facts (again, Lebron did not take the FTs; this is fact).

stawka
01-15-2010, 04:02 AM
Not one thing you said is false, that's what you believe because you're blinded by the hate. Everyone knows LeBron struggles from the FL line, EVERYONE knows it. So you do the safe thing and give it up to a better FT shooter (who choked). That could be LeBron's fault, or the coaching staff's fault. Either way, he had a flawless second half and you people need to take the blindfold off your eyes and watch greatness

kblo247
01-15-2010, 04:05 AM
Yes or No stawka

Does Lebron not shoot better than Parker from the free throw line this year?

Does Parker have a past of missing clutch free throws in his NBA career?

Was Lebron in more of a rhythm at the line than Z?

ARMIN12NBA
01-15-2010, 04:09 AM
Not one thing you said is false, that's what you believe because you're blinded by the hate. Everyone knows LeBron struggles from the FL line, EVERYONE knows it. So you do the safe thing and give it up to a better FT shooter (who choked). That could be LeBron's fault, or the coaching staff's fault. Either way, he had a flawless second half and you people need to take the blindfold off your eyes and watch greatness

How is that safe? You are the best and you are putting the game in others hands? That is safe? :puke:

When you are the best player, decent from the line, and are ridiculously hot from the field, then you take the free-throws.

Why? The only safe person you know is YOU! Lebron hinged his bets on OTHER players. How do you not understand how absurd that is? Lebron, the best player and most on fire player and a better FT shooter, decides to not take the game into his OWN hands. Miss it or make it...It is in HIS hands. He doesn't have to hope or pray or wish...He knows that it is him taking the shot. Don't you see? Lebron purposely took the game out of his own CONTROL. That is so unclutch that I can't even fathom he did that. It literally blows my mind how incompetent that is and how much of a choke that is.

At least if he went up there and missed, he tried to finish what he started (and what he started was amazing btw)...

ChiSox219
01-15-2010, 04:59 AM
Lebron was pretty beast. When he is getting away with the off arm offensive fouls and travels, he is unstoppable.


:laugh2: Pretty hilarious how this guy Gaines thinks he won the championship. Anyways, nice little comeback by Gaines and HUGE choke by Lebron refusing to take the free-throws for the Cavaliers. Or should I say shying away from the potential choke? Either way, embarrassing for LBJ.


Lebron was clutch as ****, but then wanted to not tarnish his clutchness up to the 1 minute mark. He became afraid of the moment. Essentially he averted any and all responsibility.

It's a win-win for LBJ. His fans can say he was clutch if he does or does not win the game (at the point he decided to shy away). The problem? His TEAM lost because of him ultimately.

Lebron, the superstar and leader, HAS to step up and go to the free-throw line for his team. Instead, he blatantly shied away from doing so and his teammates missed just as everybody with brains expected them to do.

Lebron should have, as a supposed MVP and clutch player, stepped up and said: "Give me the damn ball and let me sink two free-throws for the W." (ie Kobe against the Warriors in 2OT when he made 2 free-throws and was visibly seen saying to the Warriors players that "It's over")


Both Parker and Ilgauskas are worse free-throw shooters.

Lebron was afraid of wilting under the pressure after a beast 4th quarter. He decided to take the INDIVIDUAL win. Good for him. The guy takes care of his personal glory.


Lebron got scared and the Cavs lost.


It's logical for LBJ. And for LBJ, all that matters is LBJ. After such an amazing 4th quarter, he won't have a single bad highlight. Instead, he took the individual W and left the game up to his teammates.


1. This season Lebron is better than them.

2. If Lebron, the superstar and the only glimmer of hope for a horrid franchise, says: "Ay Mike, Ima take care of these free-throws." Mike Brown would get on his knees in an instant and take care of his needs. Fact.

Lebron was scared and shied away from the moment. Fact.


The best 4th quarter performance would have included Lebron going to the line, making or missing it.

I would have had WAY more respect for Lebron is he went up to the line and missed one instead of shying away from it.

Don't you see how wrong it is for your best player to not want to take the game sealing free-throws?

Imagine if Jordan had Luc Longley take the free-throws at the end (intentionally, not just an accidental thing like Longley getting a board). Wouldn't you have been pissed out of your mind?

I couldn't remember why I had this guy on my ignore list so I removed him a couple days ago after seeing a couple posts blocked. Wish I hadn't done that. :facepalm:


This year, LBJ is 78% (he's improved his FTs) while Anthony Parker is shooting 77.4, and Z is 76% :facepalm:

Game on the line, "best player in the world" says "OK I'M GOING TO IN BOUND THE BALL TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T TURN IT OVER."

Sample size, you are use a small one where all three are pretty equal, the larger (more accurate) sample size says Lebron is inferior to the other two. James had also missed 4 FTs in the game.

Teams sometimes use their best passer to inbound the ball, I know shocker! The Bulls do it on occasion with Derrick Rose and he's only 6'3

At least Lebron didn't do what Isiah did:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_RJ5XN8TK8


Lakers fans actually acting like they care what LeBron does lol. Why does it matter? if LeBron would have taken and missed the FT's you guys would be on here saying LeBron sucks and that he should have let his teammates take them. Stop nitpicking his game.

:clap:



Quick recap of my post:

Bulls fan defends Lebron and applauds Pistons fan. :laugh:

ChiSox219
01-15-2010, 05:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrY_5c6gbmM

Gators123
01-15-2010, 05:19 AM
Bulls fan defends Lebron and applauds Pistons fan.:laugh:

:speechless: That's not suppose to be happening lol

RadiantShot
01-15-2010, 08:40 AM
Woke up this morning to see the highlights. Looks like the Jazz will be keeping Gaines. Although his shot won it, Lebrons was really impressive, he faded away 3 feet from the 3 point line. It was disgusting. And I think the bulls deserved that win, they played great.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-15-2010, 09:30 AM
underdogs will win

Bulls
Jazz

:clap:

JordansBulls
01-15-2010, 10:12 AM
Lebron blocked by Korver - youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ04n-EAb5A)

JJ_JKidd
01-15-2010, 11:14 AM
Game of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gaines!!!!!!!!!!1

illegallover
01-15-2010, 11:55 AM
Bull(LOL)
Jazz

only 1 winner.

Bucsfan
01-15-2010, 11:58 AM
Lebron blocked by Korver - youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ04n-EAb5A)

Korver will remember that forever lol

Gibby23
01-15-2010, 12:06 PM
I turned the game off after Lebron went on his barrage, I thought it was over.

jimbobjarree
01-15-2010, 12:53 PM
sundiata mother ****ing gaines, take a bow son

Lakersfan2483
01-15-2010, 02:32 PM
Lebron should have taken those free throws to close that game out. No reason for him to shy away from the big moment and put Big Z and Parker on the line. Parker is known for choking at the line and Z had not shot a free throw all game long. Lebron was the hottest player on the court and refused to put the entire game in his hands. As the best player and top 2 player, you don't do that.

Chronz
01-15-2010, 03:35 PM
Parker missed free throws regularly as a Raptor with the game on the line, and Lebron is a better free throw shooter than Parker this year so don't sugarcoat ****.

He punked out because he didn't want to risk missing them.

Whats his FT% in those situations?