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Ragun
01-08-2010, 10:53 PM
Who you guys got?

Atlanta: Al Horford-Josh Smith

Boston: Kendrick Perkins/Rasheed Wallace-Kevin Garnett

Charlotte: Tyson Chandler-Boris Diaw

Chicago: Joakim Noah-Taj Gibson/Tyrus Thomas

Cleveland: Shaquille O'Neal-Anderson Varejao

Dallas: Eric Dampier/Drew Gooden-Dirk Nowitzki

Denver: Nene-Kenyon Martin

Detroit: Ben Wallace-Charlie Villaneuva

Golden State: Andris Biedrins-Anthony Randolph

Houston: Yao Ming-Luis Scola/Carl Landry

Indiana: Roy Hibbert-Troy Murphy

Los Angeles (Clippers): Chris Kaman-Marcus Camby/Blake Griffin

Los Angeles (Lakers): Andrew Bynum-Pau Gasol

Memphis: Marc Gasol-Zach Randolph

Miami: Jermaine O'Neal-Michael Beasley

Milwaukee: Andrew Bogut-Ersan Ilyasova

Minnesota: Al Jefferson-Kevin Love

New Jersey: Brook Lopez-Yi Jianlin

New Orleans: Emeka Okafor-David West

New York: David Lee-Al Harrington

Oklahoma: Nenad Kristic-Jeff Green

Orlando: Dwight Howard-Rashard Lewis

Philadelphia: Samuel Dalembert-Elton Brand/Mareese Speights

Phoenix: Channing Frye-Amare Stoudemire

Portland: Greg Oden-LaMarcus Aldridge

Sacramento: Spencer Hawes-Jason Thompson

San Antonio: Tim Duncan-Matt Bonner/Antonio McDyess

Toronto: Andrea Bargnani-Chris Bosh

Utah: Mehmet Okur-Carlos Boozer

Washington: Brendan Haywood-Antwan Jamison

koreancabbage
01-08-2010, 10:57 PM
well... I would like to say Bosh and Bargnani, but another great combo is Howard is Lewis (though he's not really a 4) or Oden and Aldridge (up and coming).

RadiantShot
01-08-2010, 11:01 PM
Was going to say Howard and Lewis, but I don't think I can at this point. Pitiful.

1-800-STFU
01-08-2010, 11:01 PM
Talent wise, i'd go with Gasol/Bynum.

koreancabbage
01-08-2010, 11:03 PM
Talent wise, i'd go with Gasol/Bynum.

ah yes, the players from my favorite team not named the Raptors. forgot about that one and i don't know how.

YES --> this is the best PF-C combo in the league

dudeonthemoon
01-08-2010, 11:03 PM
Perkins/Garnett will shut down any combo

flea
01-08-2010, 11:04 PM
Smith/Horford is good. Perkins/Garnett is good. Duncan/anyone next to him is good.

RadiantShot
01-08-2010, 11:05 PM
Perkins/Garnett will shut down any combo

Legit.

I think Perkins and Garnett would clean up on Bynum and Gasol.

Sucks that Garnett has to get old doesn't it. :/

avrpatsfan
01-08-2010, 11:05 PM
Gasol/Bynum is pretty beast along with Perkins/Garnett. Bynum is a great center and Perkins is very underrated. Garnett and Gasol and 2 of the best PFs in the leauge

TO Rapz
01-08-2010, 11:06 PM
im not being a homer or anything, and im being serious. as of right now it is Chris Bosh and Andrea Bargnani.

Ragun
01-08-2010, 11:06 PM
**** i tried to post a poll but it said you got to post the poll within 10 minutes of posting a thread...

Quikdraw
01-08-2010, 11:17 PM
Garnett/Perkins.

Bryrob58
01-08-2010, 11:18 PM
Well all the top ones have been said so I'll throw out a few notables... Okafor/West, Camby/Kaman, Jefferson/Love, Frye/Stoudemire, Okur/Boozer, but none compare to the above posts. My vote goes to Bynum/Gasol, with Perkins/Garnett and Howard/Lewis tied for second. I would say Bosh/Bargnani is very talented, but they don't play defense, so no. Horford/Smith and Oden/Aldridge look like they could be very good soon, while Lopez/Nowitzki will look nice next year lol. Pretty good topic actually. Maybe a best PG-SG will come soon?

RadiantShot
01-08-2010, 11:19 PM
I can't believe someone just said 'Bynum is a great center.' Have you no clue what you're talking about?

Jonathan2323
01-08-2010, 11:19 PM
Bynum/Gasol

koreancabbage
01-08-2010, 11:20 PM
okay when it comes down to it who would you take on a position by position term? Perkins or Bynum? Gasol or Garnett?

WITZ
01-08-2010, 11:21 PM
Bosh/Bargs or Jefferson/Love either one.

Boston-Born
01-08-2010, 11:22 PM
Horford and Smith

Ragun
01-08-2010, 11:22 PM
i really think Bosh-Bargnani combo is the best in the league. Bosh's defense isn't great but this combo can score more than any other combo, they are the most versatile and give the opposing teams a frigging nightmare.

bynum-gasol are good but bynum doesnt do good when gasol is on the floor too. both guys are really low post players which can a cramp in the paint.

perkins and garnett are good but they are definitely not as talented offensively as the 2 combos listed above.

lewis and howard are not that great IMO. Lewis is pretty much a severely over-payed 3 point shooter.

kevin love and al jeff is one heck of a combo but there team is doing very poorly right now and that wont get them votes. in a few years they will be top 5.

okur-boozer is a solid combo but not as good as a few listed above.

yungballah15
01-08-2010, 11:27 PM
Bargnani and Bosh- Blocks, rebounds, points. They fill up the stat sheet. And they been doing this the whole season. They play good together, and are good 4th quarter players. Shooting range, with bargnani extended range, bosh in the inside. And bargnani as of late, has been in the paint a whole lot. There quick, but big enough to put work in the post, so its hard to put a smaller man on either of them. Really look for each other on offense.

But as of winning KG and perkins. But Bosh and Bargnani have the talent of any centre and power foward.

lorenz00
01-08-2010, 11:37 PM
Perkins and Garnnet plays well together

talent wise Bynum/Gasol

Corey
01-08-2010, 11:45 PM
I'd take Garnett and Perk. Take the best defensive duo available, and let my guards and quick forward handle the scoring.

At the end of the game, I know Garnett and Perk aren't going to allow any penetration. Whoever is playing against me will have to beat me with the long ball.

Toenail Clipper
01-08-2010, 11:47 PM
It's not Bynum/Gasol, it's not Chris Bosh/Andrea Bargnani either.
Bynum sucks, and Chris Bosh is overrated according to Payton of course

Kakaroach
01-08-2010, 11:48 PM
Bosh-Bargs is the best offensive combo. Okur-Boozer is pretty good offensively as well.

Garnett-Perkins is the best defensive combo.

Tough choice. I'd take Howard-Lewis though.

_KB24_
01-09-2010, 12:09 AM
im not being a homer or anything, and im being serious. as of right now it is Chris Bosh and Andrea Bargnani.

No, you're being a homer.

kblo247
01-09-2010, 12:11 AM
For everyone saying Bynum/Gasol you don't watch them play together.

If you did, you know they don't click well with one another nearly as well as both do with Lamar at PF

I'll go Gasol/Odom since they are the best balanced duo on both sides instead of being one dimensional like Perk/KG(defense) or Bosh/Bargs(offense)

RocketsRule
01-09-2010, 12:11 AM
I like Perkins/Garnett and Howard/Lewis to be honest. Perkins and Garnett are arguably the best defensive duo, while Howard and Lewis provide that inside-outside combo that's hard to match.

Bynum and Gasol don't actually work as well when they are on the floor together, but talent-wise they are one of the best.

jimbobjarree
01-09-2010, 12:13 AM
not the jazz, get them both the hell out of here

I really like smith/horford and Lewis/Dwight, but I think Garnett/Perkins is the best

shame we havnt seen Griffin/Kaman yet

Raph12
01-09-2010, 12:35 AM
I'd say Gasol-Bynum, but when Gasol is on the floor, Bynum tends to disappear, I'd like to go with Dwight-Shard, but they've been horrible as of late soooo... Gasol-Odom?

Ragun
01-09-2010, 12:42 AM
I like Perkins/Garnett and Howard/Lewis to be honest. Perkins and Garnett are arguably the best defensive duo, while Howard and Lewis provide that inside-outside combo that's hard to match.

Bynum and Gasol don't actually work as well when they are on the floor together, but talent-wise they are one of the best.

arguable? dont think so. i think they are clearly the best defensively. but offensively they are not that great...well perkins isnt.

kblo247
01-09-2010, 12:50 AM
I'd say Gasol-Bynum, but when Gasol is on the floor, Bynum tends to disappear, I'd like to go with Dwight-Shard, but they've been horrible as of late soooo... Gasol-Odom?

Same thing I and Phil has said. Those 2 are the best offensive/defensive duo at the 5/4 which is why they close every game together when healthy

GilbertsGuns
01-09-2010, 01:34 AM
Lewis/Horward imo is the best and then Gasol and Bynum and then probably Camby Kamen

29$JerZ
01-09-2010, 01:37 AM
Bynum and Gasol together hasn't really clicked as well as they should have. ODom and Pau imo is better.

Litchris12
01-09-2010, 01:48 AM
david lee

topdog
01-09-2010, 02:01 AM
Honestly none of the choices blows me away. Perk and Ticket are major favorites as far as toughness/defense.

I like Big Al and Love. They don't have enough talent around them but they keep getting better on defense. The other night they dropped what? 50pt. and 30rebs. Something they could probably do pretty regularly.

Raph12
01-09-2010, 02:41 AM
Same thing I and Phil has said. Those 2 are the best offensive/defensive duo at the 5/4 which is why they close every game together when healthy

That's what I was thinking, Dwight-Shard would be the runnerups and Perk-KG would round out the Top 3.

selassi3
01-09-2010, 05:13 AM
Arguably,Garnett/Perkins, only because they will lock that paint down, Offensively perkins doesn't really have a jump shot, all he has is that low post game, I mean defensively they are no Garnett/Perkins but Andrea has been stepping up of recent holding down his position.

Offensively is a whole other discussion by far Bosh/Bargnani there is no other center in the LEAGUE as versatile as Andrea, Dirk is a good match, but even then Andrea is a bit quicker. Bosh I mean I would say he's playing like one of the best PF in the league currently, he finally has a decent roster and he's helping that team in Toronto play well after having 10 new players on their roster, things are starting to click..19-18, 6th place in the East, winning 8 of their last 9

overall---> Garnett/Perkins because Defence wins championships:clap:

kblo247
01-09-2010, 05:18 AM
That's what I was thinking, Dwight-Shard would be the runnerups and Perk-KG would round out the Top 3.

I can agree with that as they are better offensively (Lewis/Howard) and the others are better defensively (Perk/KG).

Pau and Lamar just have a better synergy in that they don't even have to talk when the game is on the line where as Pau and Bynum bump into one another too much from not playing together.

JDizzle
01-09-2010, 05:44 AM
magic

knickfan4life
01-09-2010, 06:12 AM
I can't believe someone just said 'Bynum is a great center.' Have you no clue what you're talking about?

i didnt make the original statement, but name 3 CENTERS in the league who are better than bynum and that comment is wrong. i can probably say dwight, thas about it... duncan is a 4, amare is a 4, perkins is overrated, odens a bust, maybe yao if he returns to his old self, thas all... shaq is done, i think being a top 3 center in the league gets u the great title, no?

Tblaze
01-09-2010, 07:28 AM
I'll go with Perkins/Garnett.. You don't need 2 scoring big men, but what you do need is atleast one playing good defense. These 2 excell at defense and Garnett is a decent scorer. Gasol/Odom would be next, Bargnani/Bosh should learn playing some defense ;) ofc they're one of the best offensively but they give up the same amount on the other end.

azkarraga
01-09-2010, 07:53 AM
I don't see Perkins defensively as good as others and Bynum wont be playing by playoff time, just like last year. So no, P/G or B/G are not the best combo. So far, i'd rather watch Bush/Bargs who are making wonders offensively.

kblo247
01-09-2010, 08:20 AM
I don't see Perkins defensively as good as others and Bynum wont be playing by playoff time, just like last year. So no, P/G or B/G are not the best combo. So far, i'd rather watch Bush/Bargs who are making wonders offensively.

I bet you Pau and LO would toy with them 2 on 2 especially when it comes to working together :p

Macedonian
01-09-2010, 09:58 AM
The best C-PF combo in the NBA is Bosh+Bargnani...
Hands down, guys!

Pts Reb Blk FG% FT%

Toronto's C-PF Combo 40.7 17.4 2.5 49.6 80.1
Minnesota's C-PF Combo 33.5 21.6 1.6 47.6 74.6
LA Lakers's C-PF Combo 32.0 19.7 3.3 55.6 78.2
Orlando's C-PF Combo 31.9 18.3 2.9 51.8 68.7
Utah's C-PF Combo 31.7 17.2 1.4 47.8 79.9
Atlanta's C-PF Combo 28.7 18.0 3.6 55.2 68.9
San Antonio's C-PF Combo 28.6 14.7 2.1 52.2 76.4
Boston's C-PF Combo 27.3 15.8 2.8 59.5 73.1
Portland's C-PF Combo 26.8 16.3 2.8 54.6 78.2

Evolution23
01-09-2010, 10:07 AM
im not being a homer or anything, and im being serious. as of right now it is Chris Bosh and Andrea Bargnani.

You are being a homer

Evolution23
01-09-2010, 10:11 AM
Howard and Lewis because one plays great D and the other is an amazing offensive player. They create a lot of match up problems for other teams because most teams can't guard Howard in the post and Lewis spreads the floor with his shooting touch.

deuces
01-09-2010, 10:56 AM
i didnt make the original statement, but name 3 CENTERS in the league who are better than bynum and that comment is wrong. i can probably say dwight, thas about it... duncan is a 4, amare is a 4, perkins is overrated, odens a bust, maybe yao if he returns to his old self, thas all... shaq is done, i think being a top 3 center in the league gets u the great title, no?

dwight howard, andrea bargnani, brooke lopez, nene, marc gasol, al horford, chris kaman, ?

dwadefan03
01-09-2010, 10:56 AM
twolves are an underrated one love is a beast on the boards and ajeff is the 2nd best center in league right now.

BadnewzNiners
01-09-2010, 11:18 AM
^ yeah these two might be something some day

Giantwarrior
01-09-2010, 11:24 AM
im not being a homer or anything, and im being serious. as of right now it is Chris Bosh and Andrea Bargnani.

typical, raptors fan.


YES, you are a homer.

kj_
01-09-2010, 11:48 AM
Howard and Lewis because one plays great D and the other is an amazing offensive player. They create a lot of match up problems for other teams because most teams can't guard Howard in the post and Lewis spreads the floor with his shooting touch.

Bargs played him single coverage all game that resulted in a Raps win. Bargs also played Duncan single all night that resulted in another win. The raps being 8-2 in their last 10 is a result of Bargs single coverage on opposing bigs. Watch this guy play and you can no longer say he's a bad defender. Previous years...yes...but he's figured it out.

MackSnackWrap
01-09-2010, 11:56 AM
bosh and bargnani and howard and lewis

MackSnackWrap
01-09-2010, 12:03 PM
The best C-PF combo in the NBA is Bosh+Bargnani...
Hands down, guys!

Pts Reb Blk FG% FT%

Toronto's C-PF Combo 40.7 17.4 2.5 49.6 80.1
Minnesota's C-PF Combo 33.5 21.6 1.6 47.6 74.6
LA Lakers's C-PF Combo 32.0 19.7 3.3 55.6 78.2
Orlando's C-PF Combo 31.9 18.3 2.9 51.8 68.7
Utah's C-PF Combo 31.7 17.2 1.4 47.8 79.9
Atlanta's C-PF Combo 28.7 18.0 3.6 55.2 68.9
San Antonio's C-PF Combo 28.6 14.7 2.1 52.2 76.4
Boston's C-PF Combo 27.3 15.8 2.8 59.5 73.1
Portland's C-PF Combo 26.8 16.3 2.8 54.6 78.2

agreed

Sadds The Gr8
01-09-2010, 12:10 PM
im not being a homer or anything, and im being serious. as of right now it is Chris Bosh and Andrea Bargnani.

AGREED!!!!! KILLA B'S!!!! GO RAPS GO!!!!! gonna catch MIA for that 5th spot!!!!!

ishouldbeagm
01-09-2010, 12:15 PM
Gasol/Randolph ..pwn.

The_Ocho_24
01-09-2010, 12:35 PM
Gasol/Bynum is pretty beast along with Perkins/Garnett. Bynum is a great center and Perkins is very underrated. Garnett and Gasol and 2 of the best PFs in the leauge

i agree 100%

WSU Tony
01-09-2010, 12:52 PM
Toronto, Lakers, Timberwolves.

Kidddd
01-09-2010, 12:54 PM
Pts Reb Blk FG% FT%

Toronto's C-PF Combo 40.7 17.4 2.5 49.6 80.1
Minnesota's C-PF Combo 33.5 21.6 1.6 47.6 74.6
LA Lakers's C-PF Combo 32.0 19.7 3.3 55.6 78.2
Orlando's C-PF Combo 31.9 18.3 2.9 51.8 68.7
Utah's C-PF Combo 31.7 17.2 1.4 47.8 79.9
Atlanta's C-PF Combo 28.7 18.0 3.6 55.2 68.9
San Antonio's C-PF Combo 28.6 14.7 2.1 52.2 76.4
Boston's C-PF Combo 27.3 15.8 2.8 59.5 73.1
Portland's C-PF Combo 26.8 16.3 2.8 54.6 78.2My list:

1. Bosh & Bargnani
2. Gasol & Bunym
3. Howard & Lewis

thedfactor
01-09-2010, 01:05 PM
Hmm its tough there are several talented ones, I cannot make a pick

azkarraga
01-09-2010, 03:38 PM
I bet you Pau and LO would toy with them 2 on 2 especially when it comes to working together :p

Pau and LO could be. Pau and Bynum, i have my doubts

jsumadchat
01-09-2010, 05:03 PM
as of late, bosh and bargnani. why isnt randolph/gasol getting any love?

lakerboy
01-09-2010, 05:03 PM
I don't know, it's really hard to choose for me. I like how Kobe plays with Pau, and that IMO is the most important. Pau fits so well with the Laker system, it doesn't matter if he plays with Lamar or Andrew.

Defensively, it's got to be KP and KG.

nipo10847
01-09-2010, 05:09 PM
Offensively: Gasol/Bynum.
Defensively: Garnett/Perkins.

Cash
01-09-2010, 05:17 PM
Taj Gibson/Joakim Noah

ko8e24
01-09-2010, 05:20 PM
Is this a trick question????

Gasol/Bynum

mzgrizz
01-09-2010, 05:26 PM
as of late, bosh and bargnani. why isnt randolph/gasol getting any love?

^^^^^ Don't know how you can really figure the best, but Gasol/Randolph are really beasting .

dev0
01-09-2010, 06:05 PM
Boston
LA
Phoenix
Toronto
Orlando
Denver

RocketsRule
01-09-2010, 06:06 PM
The best C-PF combo in the NBA is Bosh+Bargnani...

Offensively, yes they are the best. But they are one of the worst, if not the worst, defensively.

Vinny642
01-09-2010, 07:28 PM
Gasol and Bynum is nice, Bostons are too, I like ours though they are finally playing like a team.

Toenail Clipper
01-09-2010, 07:39 PM
Chris Kaman with Marcus Camby :D

HouRealCoach
01-09-2010, 07:48 PM
Gasol/Bynum

Blindmolerat
01-09-2010, 07:56 PM
I can't believe there has been almost no love for Memphis's Gasol/Randolph. They are both having career years and their stats are easily comparable when put against the other elite combos in the NBA.



Pts Reb Blk FG% FT%

Toronto's C-PF Combo 40.7 17.4 2.5 49.6 80.1
Minnesota's C-PF Combo 33.5 21.6 1.6 47.6 74.6
LA Lakers's C-PF Combo 32.0 19.7 3.3 55.6 78.2
Orlando's C-PF Combo 31.9 18.3 2.9 51.8 68.7
Utah's C-PF Combo 31.7 17.2 1.4 47.8 79.9
Atlanta's C-PF Combo 28.7 18.0 3.6 55.2 68.9
San Antonio's C-PF Combo 28.6 14.7 2.1 52.2 76.4
Boston's C-PF Combo 27.3 15.8 2.8 59.5 73.1
Portland's C-PF Combo 26.8 16.3 2.8 54.6 78.2

Randoph/Gasol: 35.2ppg 21.2rpg 2.0bpg 54.8%fg 74.3%ft

Vinny642
01-09-2010, 07:58 PM
I can't believe there has been almost no love for Memphis's Gasol/Randolph. They are both having career years and their stats are easily comparable when put against the other elite combos in the NBA.


Randoph/Gasol: 35.2ppg 21.2rpg 2.0bpg 54.8%fg 74.3%ft

Yeah Grizzlies whole team is underrated. They can score easily, and their bigs are beasts.

JasonJohnHorn
01-09-2010, 08:04 PM
I gotta say I am not a Lakers fan in the least, but I don't know how anybody who knows the game can answer anything other than Gasol/Bynum with a straight face. Bynum is one of the most dominant rebounders in the league, has a great interior presence, has improved both offensive and defensive game, and Gasol is the closest thing to Duncan in the league and likely the second best power forward in terms of basketball IQ and skill. He can pass, rebound, shoot outside, face the basket, post up and bang with big guys (he drew fouls out of Howard in the finals like crazy) and I can't stress his passing skills enough, especially the interior passing, which is one of the hardest aspects of the game. And when you take into consideration that Odom plays starting minutes are power forward and Gasol moves over to center for almost half his minutes, that is an even better PF/C rotation. It is depressing for a guy who hates LA as much as me to admit that LA's front court is the best in the league, especially considering they also have the league best shooting guard. But seriously, there isn't a better PF/C. I can't even see an argument for any other combo, no disrespect intender.

G-Bay New J
01-09-2010, 08:10 PM
You have to say Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum are the best. But on my sorry *** Nets about the only guys that have been consistently good is Brook Lopez and Yi Jianlian. If Devin Harris would play anywhere near how he was playing last year my Nets might be a bad team... Instead of an everytime I watch them I want to throw up team.

Macedonian
01-09-2010, 08:12 PM
Offensively: Gasol/Bynum.
Really?

Gasol + Bynum = 32.0 points per game (for 68 minutes)!
Bosh + Bargnani = 40.7 points per game (for 69 minutes)!

Vinny642
01-09-2010, 08:12 PM
Harris' overrated *** was SHUT DOWN by Paul yesterday.

G-Bay New J
01-09-2010, 08:19 PM
Between Lopez and Yi they get 34.1 ppg and 16.9 rpg. Not too bad.

And hahaha your Hornets almost got beat by my ghetto ***** Nets!!! And your talking smack about it??

JasonJohnHorn
01-09-2010, 08:24 PM
I can't believe there has been almost no love for Memphis's Gasol/Randolph. They are both having career years and their stats are easily comparable when put against the other elite combos in the NBA.


Randoph/Gasol: 35.2ppg 21.2rpg 2.0bpg 54.8%fg 74.3%ft

I can see an argument in terms of numbers only, but neither Randolph or Marc Gasol have the passing skill of Pao Gasol and niether is as dominant physically in the paint as Bynum. And though Bynum and Pao's numbers in terms of rebound and scoring might not be as high as the Memphis duo come season's end, they also have more talent on the team (Artest and Odom are both great rebounders so they share rebounding duties and minutes) and they also have one of the best scorers in Kobe so they aren't required to do as much scoring. Their success is defined not so much by personal stats, but team success. The Memphis crew have helped turn around one of the worst teams in the league last year to make them a .500 club playing in the toughest division in the league, true enough and a note worthy accomplishemt for which they deserve some love, but I just can't see those two matching up with Bynum and Gasol in a 7-game series.

Slimsim
01-09-2010, 08:53 PM
Has to be Randolph and Gasol Tired of picking the Lakers for everything.

dominater6192
01-09-2010, 08:54 PM
im not being a homer or anything, and im being serious. as of right now it is Chris Bosh and Andrea Bargnani.

I'm assuming that was'nt sarcasim since you said your being serious. And if you were serious that was one of the stupidist chouices you could make. Bosh and Bargnani are the two most finese starting low post players in the game, Bosh can post up to an extent but he relies more on his quickness and jumpshot than being physical on the post and Bargnani does'nt even have a post game he relies soley on his jumper. Niether Bosh or Bargnani is a center their both 4's with one forced to play the 5. Neither of them play any sort of defense and although Bosh is a good rebounder but Bargnani is terrible Toronto is the 4 th worst rebounding team in NBA. They can score in a variety of ways than most big men but they lack the essential charcteristics of a big man rebounding, posting up and playing defense.
Bynum and Gasol are the most talented but Bynum does'nt perform nearly as well next to Gasol as he does when Gasol is out of linep so I say the two whose game fits together the best is Garnett and Perkins, they are easily the best defensive post combo in NBA and Perkins is a physical post up rebounding machine who does the dirty work while Garnett has the ability to knock down a jumpers and also post up. Both are above average passers and rebounders.

FlakeyFool
01-09-2010, 09:01 PM
I'm assuming that was'nt sarcasim since you said your being serious. And if you were serious that was one of the stupidist chouices you could make. Bosh and Bargnani are the two most finese starting low post players in the game, Bosh can post up to an extent but he relies more on his quickness and jumpshot than being physical on the post and Bargnani does'nt even have a post game he relies soley on his jumper. Niether Bosh or Bargnani is a center their both 4's with one forced to play the 5. Neither of them play any sort of defense and although Bosh is a good rebounder but Bargnani is terrible Toronto is the 4 th worst rebounding team in NBA. They can score in a variety of ways than most big men but they lack the essential charcteristics of a big man rebounding, posting up and playing defense.
Bynum and Gasol are the most talented but Bynum does'nt perform nearly as well next to Gasol as he does when Gasol is out of linep so I say the two whose game fits together the best is Garnett and Perkins, they are easily the best defensive post combo in NBA and Perkins is a physical post up rebounding machine who does the dirty work while Garnett has the ability to knock down a jumpers and also post up. Both are above average passers and rebounders.

all wrong.

MiamiHeat
01-09-2010, 09:22 PM
Andrea Bargnani is an oversized SF

:cool:

AutomaticWeezy
01-09-2010, 09:23 PM
1 Boston

2 Memphis

3 Orlando

4 Portland

Vinny642
01-09-2010, 09:25 PM
Between Lopez and Yi they get 34.1 ppg and 16.9 rpg. Not too bad.

And hahaha your Hornets almost got beat by my ghetto ***** Nets!!! And your talking smack about it??

I am saying Devin Harris sucks, and CP shut him down. But you say we almost got beat right, we'll If I recall correctly the refs gave you alot of calls to put you back into the game, but that was not enough becuase CP is too good.

Jamiecballer
01-09-2010, 09:33 PM
I'd take Horford/Smith. Dynamic power forward that can impact the game in a myriad of ways and a solid center who rebounds well and protects the paint.

Garnett/Perkins are a great combo as well.

Love Bosh and Bargnani but unless the question is who is the best PF duo in the NBA than it's not a consideration for me. They are both top 15 PF's.

Jay_Dub
01-09-2010, 09:39 PM
Andrea Bargnani is an oversized SF

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No ... Bargnani guarded Tim Duncan and Dwight Howard on back to back games and did a great job, he was solid and bothered them with his length. The only thing he doesn't do a great job of is rebounding. He pretty pathetic at that ... but to say he has got no D is just not true ... you should watch him play this year and not judge him from what he's done in the past

Hellcrooner
01-09-2010, 09:39 PM
mmm the "other gasol" and Z-bo are averaging 38 ppg and 22 rpg between both...

MiamiHeat
01-09-2010, 09:42 PM
No ... Bargnani guarded Tim Duncan and Dwight Howard on back to back games and did a great job, he was solid and bothered them with his length. The only thing he doesn't do a great job of is rebounding. He pretty pathetic at that ... but to say he has got no D is just not true ... you should watch him play this year and not judge him from what he's done in the past

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when did I said he has no D?
lol

Jay_Dub
01-09-2010, 09:48 PM
:confused:
when did I said he has no D?
lol

haha sorry ... I was mostly responding to the post a couple above yours ... but is developing a pretty nice post game as well. Last year he was an oversized SF ... but this year he is actually playing like a 7 footer ... except for the rebounding. He could defiantly do better at that.

BkOriginalOne
01-09-2010, 09:55 PM
I thought it was common knowledge that the Lakers had the best frontcourt in the NBA

goose15
01-09-2010, 10:11 PM
Dont know if there the best but I like Horford / J.Smith

J_M_B
01-09-2010, 10:15 PM
I'll go with Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol, but I really like Kendrick Perkins and Kevin Garnett.

PHX2daDEATH
01-09-2010, 10:24 PM
If Channing learned how to attack the basket more and if the Refs didnt have a vendetta against Amare. I'd say them..Just as good as Dwight and Rashard.. if I had to pick based on Games ive seen..the Memphis duo.. Zach is a beast, if you put Zach and Marc on the Lakers they dont have much of a drop off..

let me canada hate once more.. Bosh and Bargs are only good because Toronto has nobody else.

NYtilIdie
01-09-2010, 10:28 PM
I like Memphis duo in Randolph and Gasol they're both having monster seasons this year. Gasol can get you 16 pts on 6 shots and Randolph can get you 20/10 each night.

I also love Minny's front court with Love and Jefferson

Blindmolerat
01-09-2010, 11:06 PM
I can see an argument in terms of numbers only, but neither Randolph or Marc Gasol have the passing skill of Pao Gasol and niether is as dominant physically in the paint as Bynum. And though Bynum and Pao's numbers in terms of rebound and scoring might not be as high as the Memphis duo come season's end, they also have more talent on the team (Artest and Odom are both great rebounders so they share rebounding duties and minutes) and they also have one of the best scorers in Kobe so they aren't required to do as much scoring. Their success is defined not so much by personal stats, but team success. The Memphis crew have helped turn around one of the worst teams in the league last year to make them a .500 club playing in the toughest division in the league, true enough and a note worthy accomplishemt for which they deserve some love, but I just can't see those two matching up with Bynum and Gasol in a 7-game series.

I wasn't saying that memphis had the #1 combo. I was just saying that they need some consideration due to the improved play of both Randolph and Gasol. If I had to pick a PF/C combo that is the "best" I would have to agree with you about the Lakers having the best, but I think the competition is much closer than you think. First off they aren't as great of rebounders as you think. When you look at rebound% you will see that Bynum has been average and gasol has been a little below average throught their careers, though Gasol has been better this year. You may say that is because Artest and Odom. I'll give you that Odom is a good rebounder, but Artest is not a very good rebounder. Considering Gasol's elite offensive play and underrated defense along with the Defensive presence and good activity around the basket for Bynum. I think that makes them the best combo. You can easily throw memphis', toronto's, and boston's(though garnett isn't what he used to be) into the mix.

JasonJohnHorn
01-09-2010, 11:23 PM
I wasn't saying that memphis had the #1 combo. I was just saying that they need some consideration due to the improved play of both Randolph and Gasol. If I had to pick a PF/C combo that is the "best" I would have to agree with you about the Lakers having the best, but I think the competition is much closer than you think. First off they aren't as great of rebounders as you think. When you look at rebound% you will see that Bynum has been average and gasol has been a little below average throught their careers, though Gasol has been better this year. You may say that is because Artest and Odom. I'll give you that Odom is a good rebounder, but Artest is not a very good rebounder. Considering Gasol's elite offensive play and underrated defense along with the Defensive presence and good activity around the basket for Bynum. I think that makes them the best combo. You can easily throw memphis', toronto's, and boston's(though garnett isn't what he used to be) into the mix.

You are right, Randolph and Marc Gasol deserve some love. They have helped turn the Griz into a .500 team and in the toughest division in the league. There is no doubt Zach is underrated (NY should NOT have traded him) and Marc Gasol looks like he might end up being as good as his older borther. The Griz team is looking great and if Thabeet can start playing up to his potential they may have a front court that could keep up with LA's. But though I'm not an Artest fan, I gotta say, 5.1 on his career and 6+ in seasons when he's starting (like with the Kings and Pacers) are solid rebounding stats for a small forward, and he's up near 5 a game this season as is Kobe, so with the small forward and shooting guard teaming up for 10+ boards a game and Odom grabbing about 10+ a game off the bench its hard for Bynum and Gasol to grab as many boards as some other C/PF combos. LA is a great rebounding team. I can't think of any other SG/SF combo that is averaging 10+ boards a game between them.

That said: Much love to Marc and Zach! They are playing solid ball this year and can hold their own with the best in the leauge. The Griz playin' .500 ball in the toughest division in the league? Whodda thunk it?

Blindmolerat
01-10-2010, 12:00 AM
Ya I guess Artest isn't terrible for his position. I guess since he isn't rebounding like Gerald Wallace I am not impressed, haha

deuces
01-10-2010, 12:12 AM
If Channing learned how to attack the basket more and if the Refs didnt have a vendetta against Amare. I'd say them..Just as good as Dwight and Rashard.. if I had to pick based on Games ive seen..the Memphis duo.. Zach is a beast, if you put Zach and Marc on the Lakers they dont have much of a drop off..

let me canada hate once more.. Bosh and Bargs are only good because Toronto has nobody else.

wow, what's with all this hate, based on you name you probably don't watch a lot of raps game, if they didn't have no one then how did they win 8 of their last 9? 2 players alone certainly can't do that

b_rad23
01-10-2010, 12:50 AM
I like Celtics then Lakers then drop off

then a huge cluster**** starting with the atl, orl, sa tier

I personally don't like Toronto's combo, but they're in the next tier with Memphis minny

then NO, utah, dallas, Pheonix, and washington

then we get into MIA, LAC, Den, Houston,

I think I covered all the good ones. I'm obviously tempted to move Miami up, but I can't really debate any of the above teams outside of Utah, Washington and maybe Phx.

Shaddix
01-10-2010, 01:00 AM
Smith/Horford look reeeeaaaal good and upcoming, but for now I'd probably say Perkins/Garnett defensivly (when healthy), or Lewis Howard because they bring the best offensive and defensive combo int he NBA

Raph12
01-10-2010, 01:06 AM
Apparently the Jefferson-Love duo isn't working out as well as Minni would like and both guys are on the block.

The Twolves will hang on to one or the other, not sure which yet.

Macedonian
01-10-2010, 01:16 AM
let me canada hate once more.. Bosh and Bargs are only good because Toronto has nobody else.Hahaha...
I have to quote myself, just for all the Raptorshaters here!;)



The best C-PF combo in the NBA is Bosh+Bargnani...
Hands down, guys!

Pts Reb Blk FG% FT%

Toronto's C-PF Combo 40.7 17.4 2.5 49.6 80.1
Minnesota's C-PF Combo 33.5 21.6 1.6 47.6 74.6
LA Lakers's C-PF Combo 32.0 19.7 3.3 55.6 78.2
Orlando's C-PF Combo 31.9 18.3 2.9 51.8 68.7
Utah's C-PF Combo 31.7 17.2 1.4 47.8 79.9
Atlanta's C-PF Combo 28.7 18.0 3.6 55.2 68.9
San Antonio's C-PF Combo 28.6 14.7 2.1 52.2 76.4
Boston's C-PF Combo 27.3 15.8 2.8 59.5 73.1
Portland's C-PF Combo 26.8 16.3 2.8 54.6 78.2

kblo247
01-10-2010, 01:16 AM
Apparently the Jefferson-Love duo isn't working out as well as Minni would like and both guys are on the block.

The Twolves will hang on to one or the other, not sure which yet.

Yep, Rambis loves Love since he is the ideal triangle C.

If Minny wouldn't have gotten trade happy I think Jefferson/Love would have worked in the triangle with Miller providing spacing.

I also honestly expect Farmar to end up there this summer since Kurt has always been his biggest supporter and backer.

Raph12
01-10-2010, 01:33 AM
Yep, Rambis loves Love since he is the ideal triangle PG.

If Minny wouldn't have gotten trade happy I think Jefferson/Love would have worked in the triangle with Miller providing spacing.

I also honestly expect Farmar to end up there this summer since Kurt has always been his biggest supporter and backer.

Any takers for Big Al? :shrug:

boeknows
01-10-2010, 03:01 AM
Apparently the Jefferson-Love duo isn't working out as well as Minni would like and both guys are on the block.

The Twolves will hang on to one or the other, not sure which yet.

Do you actually have a link to this because i cant find this anywhere on the Wolves website.

boeknows
01-10-2010, 03:03 AM
Yep, Rambis loves Love since he is the ideal triangle C.

If Minny wouldn't have gotten trade happy I think Jefferson/Love would have worked in the triangle with Miller providing spacing.

I also honestly expect Farmar to end up there this summer since Kurt has always been his biggest supporter and backer.

Why exactly would we want Farmer? We are pretty set with the PG's right now with Flynn as our starter Sessions as our backup and Rubio over in Spain. Where exactly would Farmer fit in with all of this?

kblo247
01-10-2010, 03:24 AM
Why exactly would we want Farmer? We are pretty set with the PG's right now with Flynn as our starter Sessions as our backup and Rubio over in Spain. Where exactly would Farmer fit in with all of this?

He is the one who Phil says pushed him to change the ch to an uptempo bench for Farmar and the one who was lobbying for him to start as a rookie. He has a man crush on the boy and Farmar is actually receptive to what he says.

If he has to choose between the PG he knows and trusts or the PG who plays for him currently in Flynn which one do you think he would choose for MLE money? The fact Jordan wants to start really means he will likely go to a place like New York, Miami, Minny, Memphis, and so on to get the opportunity.

Sessions plays better as a SG if you go by his Bucks days, Rubio isn't guaranteed to come over by any stretch, and at the draft Flynn was pegged as a Bobby Jackson type iirc.

boeknows
01-10-2010, 03:29 AM
He is the one who Phil says pushed him to change the ch to an uptempo bench for Farmar and the one who was lobbying for him to start as a rookie. He has a man crush on the boy and Farmar is actually receptive to what he says.

If he has to choose between the PG he knows and trusts or the PG who plays for him currently in Flynn which one do you think he would choose for MLE money? The fact Jordan wants to start really means he will likely go to a place like New York, Miami, Minny, Memphis, and so on to get the opportunity.

Sessions plays better as a SG if you go by his Bucks days, Rubio isn't guaranteed to come over by any stretch, and at the draft Flynn was pegged as a Bobby Jackson type iirc.

We have bigger needs to fill with our money this summer. I wouldnt spend the MLE on Farmer when we could use it on a player that we would need more at a position where we need to improve on. Mainly SG and SF.

Nicolasvon
01-10-2010, 03:31 AM
Yep have to go with Lakers and next the Raptors

jmastert
01-10-2010, 03:34 AM
lakers

Raph12
01-10-2010, 12:36 PM
Do you actually have a link to this because i cant find this anywhere on the Wolves website.

Yeah np

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-100108-09/houston-rockets-join-chris-bosh-chase


There also were some rumbles in Boise that the Timberwolves are prepared to start exploring the trade market for Al Jefferson amid questions about Jefferson's compatibility with Kevin Love and how he fits in Minnesota's more free-flowing triangle offense under new coach Kurt Rambis. A case can be made that either Jefferson or Love -- undeniably good players individually who are still both developing -- would be helped greatly by playing next to a more athletic sidekick no matter what the system.

When we checked it out, though, one source with knowledge of the Wolves' thinking insisted any such rumblings about the centerpiece of Minnesota's Kevin Garnett trade with Boston in July 2007 are off target and Big Al is staying put.

The consistent message out of 'Sota has been that any significant changes are on hold until after this season at the earliest, when the Wolves will rely on a possible $13 million in salary-cap space to console themselves following a painful first season for Rambis and new team president David Kahn.

Penetra8r
01-10-2010, 01:00 PM
Perkins/Garnett and Bynum/Gasol top 2