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Legitimate
12-23-2009, 09:10 PM
What the title says. A lot of bulls fans had a lot to say about Rose this offseason IMO he is not a top ten pg, like most Bulls fans proclaimed he was. When is is he going to step up his game?? what happenned to his improvement from last season?

Kakaroach
12-23-2009, 09:12 PM
Do you really have to bait the million Bulls fans on PSD? :sigh:

He's coming off of an injury for the most part I think.

Toenail Clipper
12-23-2009, 09:14 PM
Why is Chris Bosh so underrated? ;)

Second City
12-23-2009, 09:15 PM
Don't be ******** you troll. He came off the injury and now that he is back in shape and in the flow look at his numbers for last 2 weeks or so.

DerekRE_3
12-23-2009, 09:18 PM
From what I have heard Rose had a bum ankle to start the season. He's been playing a lot better recently.

DynaMike
12-23-2009, 09:18 PM
What the title says. A lot of bulls fans had a lot to say about Rose this offseason IMO he is not a top ten pg, like most Bulls fans proclaimed he was. When is is he going to step up his game?? what happenned to his improvement from last season?


Derrick Rose is an all star caliber player......He's numbers are increasing every night, and he's in a bad offensive system. Nice try, and thank you for playing.

Legitimate
12-23-2009, 09:23 PM
From what I have heard Rose had a bum ankle to start the season. He's been playing a lot better recently.

Hmm..maybe he continues to improve his play when fully healthy?? IMO he still missin a jumpshot though too.

DerekRE_3
12-23-2009, 09:27 PM
Hmm..maybe he continues to improve his play when fully healthy?? IMO he still missin a jumpshot though too.

He seems to be healthy now, and yes he can stand to improve his jumper. Once he gets that down, wow.

beardown78
12-23-2009, 09:28 PM
I thought Jose Calderon was A top ten point guard
I thought Hedo was the missing piece
I though Bosh was gonna resign with Toronto
Why can't the Raptors ever keep A super star

Ni55anpat
12-23-2009, 09:29 PM
What the title says. A lot of bulls fans had a lot to say about Rose this offseason IMO he is not a top ten pg, like most Bulls fans proclaimed he was. When is is he going to step up his game?? what happenned to his improvement from last season?

I thought the Raptors were supposed to be soooooooo goooooooood.

:cry:

kswissdaf
12-23-2009, 09:30 PM
I thought the Raptors were supposed to be the 4th seed this year???????????

Legitimate
12-23-2009, 09:33 PM
I thought Jose Calderon was A top ten point guard
I thought Hedo was the missing piece
I though Bosh was gonna resign with Toronto
Why can't the Raptors ever keep A super star

A bit offtopic lol. Relax dude i'm a Drose Fan :).

Legitimate
12-23-2009, 09:34 PM
There's still time for him to improve before the all star game??? im sure there is.

Legitimate
12-23-2009, 09:36 PM
I thought the Raptors were supposed to be the 4th seed this year???????????

.....

i.got.the.nutz
12-23-2009, 09:36 PM
Kobe vs Lebron. Final debate. Let's end it here folks.

The[chi][town]
12-23-2009, 09:42 PM
in December hes averaging 45FG% 20ppg 6ast 3.5reb 2.5TO

beardown78
12-23-2009, 09:44 PM
Well if you follow basketball you would know D Rose started off the year injured and still put up okay numbers. He's back to 100% now and his numbers for the past few weeks shows improvement. IMO right now he's playing better then any other pg in the east,even better than alot of people's hall of fame candidate after 5 games Brandon Jennings

AddiX
12-23-2009, 09:45 PM
Rose is over-rated and Tyreke is better than him right now.

Rose is just another SG, I never seeing him becoming a real PG.

Legitimate
12-23-2009, 09:48 PM
Well if you follow basketball you would know D Rose started off the year injured and still put up okay numbers. He's back to 100% now and his numbers for the past few weeks shows improvement. IMO right now he's playing better then any other pg in the east,even better than alot of people's hall of fame candidate after 5 games Brandon Jennings

Well..fair enough, although it hasn't been translating to wins especially after that huge 35 point embarassment. I hope Drose can come back to par and provide leadership for the Bulls. Maybe make a soild run for a playoff spot. I don't know if I agree that he is playing better than most pg's, afew games is a few games, not enough time to already be praising him a top pg.

Pauleboman
12-23-2009, 09:49 PM
[town];11783133']in December hes averaging 45FG% 20ppg 6ast 3.5reb 2.5TO

The beginning of his second year and he is only going to get better if the Bulls get a real system for his style..
Give Derrick a good system and a superstar friend..Lookout

GodsSon
12-23-2009, 09:52 PM
Duhon >>> Rose

beardown78
12-23-2009, 09:57 PM
Well..fair enough, although it hasn't been translating to wins especially after that huge 35 point embarassment. I hope Drose can come back to par and provide leadership for the Bulls. Maybe make a soild run for a playoff spot. I don't know if I agree that he is playing better than most pg's, afew games is a few games, not enough time to already be praising him a top pg.

Give him A real coach that can teach him the fine points of the pg position and A couple teammates that can hit an open jumper and finish under the basket and watch his numbers improve

beardown78
12-23-2009, 09:59 PM
Duhon >>> Rose

Raptors minus Bosh 2010

GodsSon
12-23-2009, 10:00 PM
Raptors minus Bosh 2010

not happening...but if it did, especially not to the Bulls

Cubs Win
12-23-2009, 10:08 PM
Rose was hurt to start the year and it was obvious to those who watch most Bulls games. While he isn't racking up assists this year, partly due to the system and partly due to the team around him, he's still doing pretty good in that area. Here's his numbers for the last 5 games per ESPN:

PPG: 24.2
APG: 5.8
RPG: 4.2
TO: 2.0
FG%: 49% (51/104)
FT%: 82% (18/22)

Just for comparison's sake, here's D-Wade's numbers thus far this year in those categories:

PPG: 26.6
APG: 6.2
RPG: 5.0
TO: 3.0
FG%: 43.2% (226/523)
FT%: 76% (193/254)

I am in no way arguing that Derrick Rose is as good or near as good as Dwyane Wade right now as the stats aren't equivalent and measuring a players' level of play goes beyond mere stats. Considering that most people consider D-Wade a top 3 player in the NBA today, and D-Rose has a similar style of play to him I thought it would be an interesting comparison. Obviously Rose will have to keep this up for a season's length to be considered near Wade's level, as this is only 5 games worth of stats for Rose. But this shows what Rose can do when he is healthy. He still has improvements that need to be made in his game (i.e. jump shot and aggresiveness), but he can be an all-star this year if he keeps it up and certainly deserves more credit than many of the PSD haters give him.

Slimsim
12-23-2009, 10:27 PM
You got Balls posting this on PSD Legitmate

But you was kinda asking to get bash.

what54!?
12-23-2009, 10:32 PM
he won't make the team this year (unless coaches vote him in which is unlikey with the team's record) but by the end of the season he should be playng like an all-star

Cubs Win
12-23-2009, 10:49 PM
he won't make the team this year (unless coaches vote him in which is unlikey with the team's record) but by the end of the season he should be playng like an all-star

I kind of agree with you, but I think he's playing like a potential all-star now (albeit an end of the bench all-star; not a starter). But I agree with you that his numbers should look like all-star numbers by the end of the season if that's what you meant. I still think he has an outside shot at making the team this year if he plays at the level he's been playing at recently but I do agree that his early season injury that slowed him and hurt his stats may have doomed from making the all-star team this year.

VCaintdead17
12-23-2009, 10:54 PM
[town];11783133']in December hes averaging 45FG% 20ppg 6ast 3.5reb 2.5TO

Thats neat. He's almost as good as Brandon Jennings.

Chicagofaithful
12-23-2009, 10:54 PM
kobe

1-800-STFU
12-23-2009, 10:55 PM
Rose >>> Rondo

albertc86
12-23-2009, 10:56 PM
Thats neat. He's almost as good as Brandon Jennings.

That's what I said, lol. I don't think posters on here realize that they're comparing Rose to a rookie.

VCaintdead17
12-23-2009, 10:57 PM
Rose was hurt to start the year and it was obvious to those who watch most Bulls games. While he isn't racking up assists this year, partly due to the system and partly due to the team around him, he's still doing pretty good in that area. Here's his numbers for the last 5 games per ESPN:

PPG: 24.2
APG: 5.8
RPG: 4.2
TO: 2.0
FG%: 49% (51/104)
FT%: 82% (18/22)

Just for comparison's sake, here's D-Wade's numbers thus far this year in those categories:

PPG: 26.6
APG: 6.2
RPG: 5.0
TO: 3.0
FG%: 43.2% (226/523)
FT%: 76% (193/254)

I am in no way arguing that Derrick Rose is as good or near as good as Dwyane Wade right now as the stats aren't equivalent and measuring a players' level of play goes beyond mere stats. Considering that most people consider D-Wade a top 3 player in the NBA today, and D-Rose has a similar style of play to him I thought it would be an interesting comparison. Obviously Rose will have to keep this up for a season's length to be considered near Wade's level, as this is only 5 games worth of stats for Rose. But this shows what Rose can do when he is healthy. He still has improvements that need to be made in his game (i.e. jump shot and aggresiveness), but he can be an all-star this year if he keeps it up and certainly deserves more credit than many of the PSD haters give him.


Wow. I can't believe you have the nerve to say Derrick Rose is better than Dwyane Wade.

VCaintdead17
12-23-2009, 11:00 PM
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See, that right there PROVES Kobe raped that girl and that the NBA is rigged so he can win MVP.

runforrestrunx9
12-23-2009, 11:15 PM
why did the chicken cross the street?

Cubsfan365
12-23-2009, 11:15 PM
not happening...but if it did, especially not to the Bulls
Hahaha, Raptors fan in denial. No chance Bosh stays in Toronto.

Cubsfan365
12-23-2009, 11:19 PM
Wow. I can't believe you have the nerve to say Derrick Rose is better than Dwyane Wade.
He clearly stated that he was not saying Rose is as good or better than Wade, but it was just a comparison. READ THE WHOLE POST.

VCaintdead17
12-23-2009, 11:21 PM
He clearly stated that he was not saying Rose is as good or better than Wade, but it was just a comparison. READ THE WHOLE POST.

boner

Cubsfan365
12-23-2009, 11:25 PM
boner
Umm

ProdigyI
12-23-2009, 11:27 PM
Derrick Rose

17.6 PPG 5.6 APG

3rd in the eastern conference in scoring for PG. Coming off an injury.

And.....so whats everybodys problem now?

Chacarron
12-23-2009, 11:36 PM
Lebron is the best PG in the East. End of the argument. :cool:

SchyGuy11
12-23-2009, 11:45 PM
Go Bulls!!!

VCaintdead17
12-23-2009, 11:48 PM
why did the chicken cross the street?

To get a pack of smokes! :)

tcav701
12-23-2009, 11:50 PM
Rose >>> Rondo

Scoring: Yes

Every other concievable facet of the game: No

DayDreamz
12-23-2009, 11:56 PM
Raptors minus Bosh 2010

Chill on the bosh comments. Nobody knows where he's gonna end up.
But u gotta admit D-rose wasn't playing good as of late. Maybe it can be due to his injury.

DayDreamz
12-23-2009, 11:57 PM
Lebron is the best PG in the East. End of the argument. :cool:

WTF........ :facepalm:

GodsSon
12-24-2009, 12:02 AM
Lebron is the best PG in the East. End of the argument. :cool:

i thought he was a centre

Ray_R
12-24-2009, 12:03 AM
Rose is over-rated and Tyreke is better than him right now.

Rose is just another SG, I never seeing him becoming a real PG.

:laugh: :facepalm:

ecorrea
12-24-2009, 12:03 AM
luol deng has been beastin!!!

DamnGoat
12-24-2009, 12:13 AM
I think most casual NBA fans don't know that Rose started off the season with a nagging ankle injury. And for a guy that is as explosive as him, that's gonna really change his game.

Since it looks like he's finally over that injury he's been playing very well (20/6 in December). Not really his fault the Bulls suck...he, Deng and Noah can only do so much.

D1JM
12-24-2009, 12:28 AM
Wow. I can't believe you have the nerve to say Derrick Rose is better than Dwyane Wade.

u damn right derrick is. :clap:

Legitimate
12-24-2009, 12:33 AM
Look..the only reason why i made this thread cus of the hype this offseason surrounding the bulls and Rose. People thought the bulls would be better off without their goal to score in 'gordon' and with a healthy deng. Deng is healthy and te bulls are still struggling. Sure you can respond with ' what about the raps they ain't as good', but we are actually 7th place in the east, in which i predicted 5th place this past summer not '4th, meh.

So i take it the injury is really plaging him, so we'll have to wait and find out if thats true, cus dude is supposedly healthy now. But IMO BG created space for Rose and made him the player he was last year, rose is probably wishin that the bulls re-signed BG. Rose will not make the all-star team this year.

Big Game Son
12-24-2009, 12:37 AM
Right now he's asked to do too much. His surrounding crew isn't efficient enough for him.

koreancabbage
12-24-2009, 01:04 AM
he's a sophomore--> sophomore slump duh!

but seriously, there are NO other scorers around him...other than MAYBE Deng or Salmons. They can't be relied on to average 20+ ppg if their lives counted on it. Deng and Salmons are realistically 3rd and 4th options on teams. Noah and Miller aren't proven on offense either. I think they should've kept Gordon cuz it would've taken pressure off of Rose for sure.

Rose can't be the first option cuz he doesn't have a jump shot consistent enough to keep teams honest.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-24-2009, 02:09 AM
Duhon >>> Rose

I hope you die in a painful death!

DerekRE_3
12-24-2009, 04:26 AM
This thread was borderline baiting to begin with, and not many constructive things have been said.

CITLEON
12-24-2009, 04:26 AM
Derrick Rose is legit. He's having a decent season. Can't place all the blame of the Bulls record on Rose. He's no fluke I can guarantee that.