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ldawg
12-19-2009, 10:10 AM
Still think that was a bad trade? Everyone laugh and was upset when this trade went down. They said it was one of the worst trade in history and they should have taken Drew. This is what a good GM does, he makes trade that makes his team better overall and not worry about what the other team gets unless he is ready for a title run and don't want to feed his possible opponents. So what if Suns, Spurs, Denver etc get made that does not help Grizzlies. Look at the number of GMs that are now letting go so called great players for nothing even going as far as paying them to stay home and buying out thier contracts. But hear comes a question, Did the Lakers trade the wrong center? You can buid a team around Drew he is young and the better offensive player (working with kareem) that needs the ball but he is also inconsistent, Injury prone, and some what laid back(lazy). Marc however is more of a team guy not strong in one thing but good at many, he sees the floor better, better chemistry don't need the ball. Not sure Marc can be the main guy. However they are posting similar numbers advantage so far goes to Marc Gasol overall just need to work on his ft. Marc and Pau would have worked even better together thier thier passing skills and ball handle is above avg for centers.

TheKing23
12-19-2009, 10:45 AM
Marc Gasol and Pau Gasol >>> Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol

Not only would the Gasol brothers have the best chemistry in the league (being brothers), they are both highly skilled at handling and passing the ball meaning they would suit the triangle offense brilliantly and complement each other superbly. A 7 foot finesse post player that can hot the mid range shot in Pau and a 7 foot banger down low who is a huge amount more consistent than Bynum in Marc. Defensively they are both solid and would be a form a devastating front court for the next 5 or so years (until Pau starts to decline).

Although Bynum can still progress, I see him topping out as a 15/8 guy on THIS Lakers team. For Marc the sky is the limit and alongside Pau he could be a consistent double double guy picking up the slack if Pau isn't playing that well.

I had never thought of it like this but if Mitch Kupchak had packaged Bynum instead of Marc's draft rights in the deal, on the surface it would've looked more fair but in the long run the Lakers would have won even bigger.

black1605
12-19-2009, 10:48 AM
bynum

MTar786
12-19-2009, 10:51 AM
bynum's full potential on the lakers is more like 17/10..(that won't come this year though) if he were on another team i could see him gettin 21/11

I voted for gasol.. cuz if it wasnt for this trade memphis wouldnt have landed oj mayo and they wouldnt have saved money off kwame and had the rights to marc and they wouldnt have signed who ever they have.. they have a far better future now than they would have if they kept pau

Simpson4Heisman
12-19-2009, 11:12 AM
Yeah Im taking Bynum on this one all day.

still1ballin
12-19-2009, 12:50 PM
Its hard for Bynum to put up numbers on the team he is on. We all have seen what the kid can do when Gasol is not out there. You put him on the Nets and have him as the number one option, he can easily put 20 and 10 every game.

Teeboy1487
12-19-2009, 01:02 PM
Its hard for Bynum to put up numbers on the team he is on. We all have seen what the kid can do when Gasol is not out there. You put him on the Nets and have him as the number one option, he can easily put 20 and 10 every game.
This.

ldawg
12-19-2009, 02:08 PM
Its hard for Bynum to put up numbers on the team he is on. We all have seen what the kid can do when Gasol is not out there. You put him on the Nets and have him as the number one option, he can easily put 20 and 10 every game. That is why i think Marc is the better center. Bynum like offence other wise he don't play hard if you notice late in the game lakers roll with Odom/Pau they have better chemistry and cover and look for each other under the basket. This could be because of bynum age and even being in his 5th yr he was often injured so he lost time. There are many gifted offensive players but it normally don't translate to good team play. Base on potential i can see if healthy in the future Bynum posting 25/9 # 1 opption on offence. Gasol i see more of 17/10 because he don't dominate the ball it woud come more in the flow of the game but he can if he want but that is not his game he is same as pau, unselfish. As of right now both not the focal point but Marc is more efficient. Bynum 147-256 0.574 to Marc 141-230 0.613. Bynum numbers are going down daily because he is now 3rd opt same as Marc. And marc is playing next to ball hogg Zach compared to a passing big man Pau. Can you imagine to ball movment between him and Pau? omg

Raph12
12-19-2009, 02:13 PM
If Bynum can stay healthy all season, then go with Drew, otherwise Marc will suffice.

ldawg
12-19-2009, 02:41 PM
If Bynum can stay healthy all season, then go with Drew, otherwise Marc will suffice. That my friend is a huge IF i do think his knees has alot to do with it (Confidence). He seem like a little giant out there most times he needs to poster a few people then he get his strips back. Play like what he is BIG. sometimes i think he is Josh Powell out there. To be a great player you have to bring it every nite. Maybe his goal is not push to hard and stay healthy all year just paceing himself so he can dominate in the finals just maybe. But as of right now Marc looks better without Kareems help. What if marc worked with Kareem it was close until kareem got sick. Then we could see who had the higher celling.

Chronz
12-19-2009, 02:50 PM
No brainer, Drew a defensive all-star, Marc cannot anchor a defense.

ldawg
12-19-2009, 03:14 PM
No brainer, Drew a defensive all-star, Marc cannot anchor a defense.

They both avg a little under 2 blk per game, Marc avg 1 stl to Bynum 0, Marc avg 7 def rpg to Drew 5.9 def rpg, Both set screens and box out so yes he can so once again advantage Marc. This brings up another question should Drew be in the allstar over Marc? Its not base on potential but performance. Bynum EFF + 20.59 to Marc EFF + 22.04

Toenail Clipper
12-19-2009, 03:26 PM
Marc Gasol is 7 ft?!
He looks so chubby that I thought he was like 6-10

The answer to the thread is Marc Gasol and Pau Gasol.
Bynum's really injury prone, he might be injured this year again

ldawg
12-19-2009, 03:26 PM
marc

Ranks #11 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (9.8)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage (0.613)
Ranks #20 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game (1.42)
Ranks #37 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game (35.3)
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Minutes Played (918)
Ranks #28 in the NBA in Free Throws (95)
Ranks #22 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts (138)
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (74)
Ranks #14 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (2.8)
Ranks #9 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (182)
Ranks #11 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (7)
Ranks #7 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (256)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks (37)
Ranks #48 in the NBA in Steals Per Turnover (0.54)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Double-doubles (10)
Ranks #46 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (4.97)
Ranks #38 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes (7.21)
Ranks #42 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (3.9)
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (9.5)
Ranks #25 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (13.4)
Ranks #30 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes (1.93)
Ranks #12 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (573)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (22.04)
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (29.96)

Bynum

Ranks #39 in the NBA in Points Per Game (16.7)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (8.5)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage (0.574)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game (1.64)
Ranks #48 in the NBA in Field Goals Made (147)
Ranks #30 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (59)
Ranks #16 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (2.7)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (128)
Ranks #24 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (5.8)
Ranks #33 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (187)
Ranks #17 in the NBA in Blocks (36)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Double-doubles (8)
Ranks #28 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes (9.73)
Ranks #49 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (4.83)
Ranks #46 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes (6.49)
Ranks #39 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (3.9)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (8.5)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (12.4)
Ranks #20 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes (2.38)
Ranks #39 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (24.3)
Ranks #41 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (452)
Ranks #23 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (20.55)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (29.91)

Toenail Clipper
12-19-2009, 03:32 PM
marc

Ranks #11 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (9.8)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage (0.613)
Ranks #20 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game (1.42)
Ranks #37 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game (35.3)
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Minutes Played (918)
Ranks #28 in the NBA in Free Throws (95)
Ranks #22 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts (138)
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (74)
Ranks #14 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (2.8)
Ranks #9 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (182)
Ranks #11 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (7)
Ranks #7 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (256)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks (37)
Ranks #48 in the NBA in Steals Per Turnover (0.54)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Double-doubles (10)
Ranks #46 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (4.97)
Ranks #38 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes (7.21)
Ranks #42 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (3.9)
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (9.5)
Ranks #25 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (13.4)
Ranks #30 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes (1.93)
Ranks #12 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (573)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (22.04)
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (29.96)

Bynum

Ranks #39 in the NBA in Points Per Game (16.7)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (8.5)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage (0.574)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game (1.64)
Ranks #48 in the NBA in Field Goals Made (147)
Ranks #30 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (59)
Ranks #16 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (2.7)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (128)
Ranks #24 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (5.8)
Ranks #33 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (187)
Ranks #17 in the NBA in Blocks (36)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Double-doubles (8)
Ranks #28 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes (9.73)
Ranks #49 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (4.83)
Ranks #46 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes (6.49)
Ranks #39 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (3.9)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (8.5)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (12.4)
Ranks #20 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes (2.38)
Ranks #39 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (24.3)
Ranks #41 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (452)
Ranks #23 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (20.55)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (29.91)

Marc's stats may be better, but Marc is playing on a crappy *** team where as Bynum is playing in a talented team where "not anything goes"

JIMMY CONWAY
12-19-2009, 03:34 PM
Make up your mind... either Bynum is lazy, laid back, or both... by the way everyone in L.A. seems to be laid back... I'd lay back and watch the woman stroll by too...

ldawg
12-19-2009, 03:39 PM
Marc's stats may be better, but Marc is playing on a crappy *** team where as Bynum is playing in a talented team where "not anything goes"

If thats the case his numbers should be worst meaning he should be taking more shots at lower fg% but he is not. Now picture him on Lakers his numbers should be even better play with Kobe, Pau and Artest. Kinda like Rondo not a great pg but look good around all the good players. Also take Ariza He takes more shots now so his fg% drops. Drew took more shots at a lower fg%. This is where Marc IQ, Passing skills is higher he is efficient.

Toenail Clipper
12-19-2009, 03:42 PM
If thats the case his numbers should be worst meaning he should be taking more shots at lower fg% but he is not. Now picture him on Lakers his numbers should be even better play with Kobe, Pau and Artest. Kinda like Rondo not a great pg but look good around all the good players.

No. Not every player will turn out to be Rondo where superstars surrounded him which also made him a star. Name another player that's like that. A player just stands out because their team sucks. Look at Andre Iguoadala or Danny Granger. Look at Artest now, his number are WAAAAY DOWN.

Jacob K.
12-19-2009, 03:45 PM
marc

Ranks #11 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (9.8)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage (0.613)
Ranks #20 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game (1.42)
Ranks #37 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game (35.3)
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Minutes Played (918)
Ranks #28 in the NBA in Free Throws (95)
Ranks #22 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts (138)
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (74)
Ranks #14 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (2.8)
Ranks #9 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (182)
Ranks #11 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (7)
Ranks #7 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (256)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks (37)
Ranks #48 in the NBA in Steals Per Turnover (0.54)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Double-doubles (10)
Ranks #46 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (4.97)
Ranks #38 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes (7.21)
Ranks #42 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (3.9)
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (9.5)
Ranks #25 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (13.4)
Ranks #30 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes (1.93)
Ranks #12 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (573)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (22.04)
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (29.96)

Bynum

Ranks #39 in the NBA in Points Per Game (16.7)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (8.5)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage (0.574)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game (1.64)
Ranks #48 in the NBA in Field Goals Made (147)
Ranks #30 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (59)
Ranks #16 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (2.7)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (128)
Ranks #24 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (5.8)
Ranks #33 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (187)
Ranks #17 in the NBA in Blocks (36)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Double-doubles (8)
Ranks #28 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes (9.73)
Ranks #49 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (4.83)
Ranks #46 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes (6.49)
Ranks #39 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (3.9)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (8.5)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (12.4)
Ranks #20 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes (2.38)
Ranks #39 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (24.3)
Ranks #41 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (452)
Ranks #23 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (20.55)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (29.91)

wow thats waaay too many stats to read and compare

JermanJaysFan
12-19-2009, 03:47 PM
Its hard for Bynum to put up numbers on the team he is on. We all have seen what the kid can do when Gasol is not out there. You put him on the Nets and have him as the number one option, he can easily put 20 and 10 every game.

If you put me as the number one option on the Nets, I'd get 20 and 10.

But seriously, Drew is probably the most "valuable" player in general, but Marc is becoming a beast and probably would have done quite well alongside his brother in Los Angeles.

MickeyMgl
12-19-2009, 03:56 PM
No brainer, Drew a defensive all-star, Marc cannot anchor a defense.

:speechless:

DCB/LAL
12-19-2009, 04:00 PM
See here's the thing for the Lakers it would probably better to have the Gasol brothers although Bynum and Pau work good together the chemistry between the brothers would of been great! So for the Lakers having the Brothers MIGHT of been better.


For the Grizz have Bynum would of been better he could of been the face of that franchise and put monster numbers and they'd have a player they could build around so yeah Guees it kinda works both ways.

Its just a case of one probably being a better fit for the other. Marc being MAYBE a better fit for the Lakers and Bynum MAYBE being a better fit for the Grizz.

ldawg
12-19-2009, 04:08 PM
No. Not every player will turn out to be Rondo where superstars surrounded him which also made him a star. Name another player that's like that. A player just stands out because their team sucks. Look at Andre Iguoadala or Danny Granger. Look at Artest now, his number are WAAAAY DOWN.

You a right not all will it would depend on thier age, skills and role. Ron role has change plus he is like 4th or 5th option on Lakers so his numbers should go down but his percentages are right along his career avg but he needs to work on his ft. In this case i am looking at Marc the player and he is not taking most of the shots on his team so his numbers are not bloated I would think he would have took more shots than drew but he did not i was suprise He is playing within the game I do expect if Drew was on the Grizzles he would avg more pts and FGA than Marc but dont think it would equal wins him and Zach in the paint would be two ball hoggs. Offensively Drew is better thanks to Kareem but Marc can get that help as well.

ldawg
12-19-2009, 04:47 PM
See here's the thing for the Lakers it would probably better to have the Gasol brothers although Bynum and Pau work good together the chemistry between the brothers would of been great! So for the Lakers having the Brothers MIGHT of been better.


For the Grizz have Bynum would of been better he could of been the face of that franchise and put monster numbers and they'd have a player they could build around so yeah Guees it kinda works both ways.

Its just a case of one probably being a better fit for the other. Marc being MAYBE a better fit for the Lakers and Bynum MAYBE being a better fit for the Grizz.

Marc is the better fit for Lakers right now. Not sure how Drew would have turn out If Lakers did not work with him though. He was very raw but his potential was high but not so high that he drop in Lakers hand many was surprise Lakers draft him. If he did not join the Lakers he could be just another big man but they invest mills on him.

Bruno
12-19-2009, 06:25 PM
I've said for a while the trade was not as lopsided as everyone said.

People put all of the Lakers success on the trade for Pau. People love to ignore the fact that Bynum and Ariza were turning into great players.

ChiSox219
12-19-2009, 06:53 PM
Was Bynum on the table for the Grizzlies?

ldawg
12-20-2009, 01:04 AM
Was Bynum on the table for the Grizzlies?

he should of because Lakers kept the wrong center. Brook Lopez made him look sorry tonight.

JasonJohnHorn
12-20-2009, 01:22 AM
Well, it would have been nice to have those options, but the bottom line is the Lakers made it clear: Bynum and Odom were not on the table.

That said, it was a good trade. The place where Memphis was at was this: they had a great player deserving of a max contract and weren't winning. So do you pay a big salary when you don't have the talent to put around that player? No. Its a waste of money. What they did was trade for an expiring contract, draft picks and Marc Gasol, a promising yuong center. They got picks to put around their players, and cap space to bring in free agents.

Its hard to let go of a gret player for next to nothing, but like the Nets did with J. Kidd, and the T-Wolves did with Garnett, sometimes the path you've taken isn't working and you have to move on. Rebuilding sucks, but Memphis is already on the way back to being a legit playoff team.

ldawg
12-20-2009, 06:28 AM
Well, it would have been nice to have those options, but the bottom line is the Lakers made it clear: Bynum and Odom were not on the table.

That said, it was a good trade. The place where Memphis was at was this: they had a great player deserving of a max contract and weren't winning. So do you pay a big salary when you don't have the talent to put around that player? No. Its a waste of money. What they did was trade for an expiring contract, draft picks and Marc Gasol, a promising yuong center. They got picks to put around their players, and cap space to bring in free agents.

Its hard to let go of a gret player for next to nothing, but like the Nets did with J. Kidd, and the T-Wolves did with Garnett, sometimes the path you've taken isn't working and you have to move on. Rebuilding sucks, but Memphis is already on the way back to being a legit playoff team.

Some fail to realize or don't want to acknowledge that Marc one of the best centers in the nba as of right now. top 5, that do change if you put so pf a center though.

blazerman
12-20-2009, 07:33 AM
Still think that was a bad trade? Everyone laugh and was upset when this trade went down. They said it was one of the worst trade in history and they should have taken Drew. This is what a good GM does, he makes trade that makes his team better overall and not worry about what the other team gets unless he is ready for a title run and don't want to feed his possible opponents. So what if Suns, Spurs, Denver etc get made that does not help Grizzlies. Look at the number of GMs that are now letting go so called great players for nothing even going as far as paying them to stay home and buying out thier contracts. But hear comes a question, Did the Lakers trade the wrong center? You can buid a team around Drew he is young and the better offensive player (working with kareem) that needs the ball but he is also inconsistent, Injury prone, and some what laid back(lazy). Marc however is more of a team guy not strong in one thing but good at many, he sees the floor better, better chemistry don't need the ball. Not sure Marc can be the main guy. However they are posting similar numbers advantage so far goes to Marc Gasol overall just need to work on his ft. Marc and Pau would have worked even better together thier thier passing skills and ball handle is above avg for centers.

You guys got jacked anyway you look at it because Marc Gasol was unproven as an NBA player, which Im sure the Grizz researched him but still he could have been mediocre and if that would have happened we'd never here the end of how bad Memphis got fleeced, all in all Memphis is lucky Marc panned out and the trade evened out somewhat.

Taking Bynum would have been the smart move at the time and even more so now. You can talk Marc up all you want but Bynum is far better and will continue to get better, Marc will get better but I doubt he improves that much, big less athletic white guys like Marc learn early on they need be efficient in all aspects of the game if they are gonna compete with more athletically gifted players so they tend to put a higher emphasis on passing and other fundamentals.

Dont get me wrong Marc is turning into a real nice baller but at the time the deal was made Memphis could only hope that it evened out. It still looks like Jerry West made that deal as a parting gift to the Lakers before he retired, giving something back so to speak and did a nice coverup job by selling it as the best thing for Memphis, I think Chicago and a few other teams rolled out better offers, I wouldnt be surprised if West had an offshore account in the Kaman islands setup by Buss for tens of millions of dollars to help West get by in his upcoming retirement for all the yrs of great service to the Lakers including his final yr of service to the Lakers in Memphis, haha just kiddin Lakers fans.:rolleyes:

Hellcrooner
12-20-2009, 02:17 PM
well im a laker fan and man i wouldnt say bynum si better than marc.

i mean bynum can score, and then score and score, but if you dont feed him the ball he goes and moan and get his all around game down, doe snto care to rebound or deffend etc,

while marc does nothing exceptionaly well but does overaverage EVERYTHING. and doe snot moan about touches wich he should cause he is scoring 15 a game with a ridiculuse 6-8 shots a game.

The1ronHorse
12-21-2009, 04:18 PM
Originally couldn't we have thrown in Sun Yue instead of Marc? That's what I heard it could very well be wrong but idk. O and yes, Bynum is better then Marc, Bynum is not even close to what he will be right now he's still potential which is scary, Pau has been puttin up similar numbers since he got here, both the brothers are Just THAT skilled to begin with. Marc is more skilled, defensively you can't say he is better and offensively Bynum when he's the first option downlow he could put up 25 and 12, I feel on almost any team.

Hellcrooner
12-21-2009, 04:27 PM
Originally couldn't we have thrown in Sun Yue instead of Marc? That's what I heard it could very well be wrong but idk. O and yes, Bynum is better then Marc, Bynum is not even close to what he will be right now he's still potential which is scary, Pau has been puttin up similar numbers since he got here, both the brothers are Just THAT skilled to begin with. Marc is more skilled, defensively you can't say he is better and offensively Bynum when he's the first option downlow he could put up 25 and 12, I feel on almost any team. if marc was getting gay number of touches would be scoring 27 ppg.

wallerstud06
12-21-2009, 05:06 PM
sorry but you guys are morons lol...first of all bynum is better than Gasol and more than likely always will be better...Bynum had 2 knee surgeries and is still a better athletic...and Memphis wasnt even asking for Gasol at all, the Lakers just threw him in for salary reasons. the only thing that hurted the Lakers about the decision to not trade Bynum is because of his salary and that he got hurt the year we lost in the finals to the celtics....

blazerman
12-21-2009, 09:50 PM
sorry but you guys are morons lol...first of all bynum is better than Gasol and more than likely always will be better...Bynum had 2 knee surgeries and is still a better athletic...and Memphis wasnt even asking for Gasol at all, the Lakers just threw him in for salary reasons. the only thing that hurted the Lakers about the decision to not trade Bynum is because of his salary and that he got hurt the year we lost in the finals to the celtics....

Gasol was not a throw in, he was the 2nd primary piece behind Kwame's expiring contract. Still a ridiculous trade by the Grizzlies at the time. The emergence of Marc has evened it out some but at the time Marc wasnt a sure thing by any means and the Grizz just were lucky he panned out or it would have been one of the biggest hiests of all time in the NBA.

ldawg
12-21-2009, 09:59 PM
Gasol was not a throw in, he was the 2nd primary piece behind Kwame's expiring contract. Still a ridiculous trade by the Grizzlies at the time. The emergence of Marc has evened it out some but at the time Marc wasnt a sure thing by any means and the Grizz just were lucky he panned out or it would have been one of the biggest hiests of all time in the NBA.

point is it was not a bad trade when you trade for a rookie you don't know what you a getting you only see thier skill during try outs its always a gamble. By the way they knew what they were getting he use to work out with his brother Pau over there so they knew him more than the Lakers did. When Lakers traded for kobe that also could have been a stupid move. Was Detroit dumb for passing on Mello, Who was stupid enough to pass up on MJ? Its allways a gamble

PLAYERS FAN
12-21-2009, 10:02 PM
well im a laker fan and man i wouldnt say bynum si better than marc.

i mean bynum can score, and then score and score, but if you dont feed him the ball he goes and moan and get his all around game down, doe snto care to rebound or deffend etc,

while marc does nothing exceptionaly well but does overaverage EVERYTHING. and doe snot moan about touches wich he should cause he is scoring 15 a game with a ridiculuse 6-8 shots a game.

So true! :facepalm: