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JordansBulls
12-02-2009, 12:28 AM
Toronto at Atlanta 7:00 PM
Phoenix at Cleveland 7:00 PM
NY Knicks at Orlando 7:00 PM
Milwaukee at Washington 7:00 PM
Dallas at New Jersey 7:30 PM
Detroit at Chicago 8:00 PM
Memphis at Minnesota 8:00 PM
Philadelphia at Oklahoma City 8:00 PM NBA TV
Indiana at Sacramento 10:00 PM
Houston at LA Clippers 10:30 PM NBA TV

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 01:19 AM
Toronto at Atlanta 7:00 PM
Phoenix at Cleveland 7:00 PM
NY Knicks at Orlando 7:00 PM
Milwaukee at Washington 7:00 PM
Dallas at New Jersey 7:30 PM
Detroit at Chicago 8:00 PM
Memphis at Minnesota 8:00 PM
Philadelphia at Oklahoma City 8:00 PM NBA TV
Indiana at Sacramento 10:00 PM
Houston at LA Clippers 10:30 PM NBA TV

bigsams50
12-02-2009, 01:19 AM
Toronto at Atlanta 7:00 PM
Phoenix at Cleveland 7:00 PM
NY Knicks at Orlando 7:00 PM
Milwaukee at Washington 7:00 PM
Dallas at New Jersey 7:30 PM
Detroit at Chicago 8:00 PM
Memphis at Minnesota 8:00 PM
Philadelphia at Oklahoma City 8:00 PM NBA TV
Indiana at Sacramento 10:00 PM
Houston at LA Clippers 10:30 PM NBA TV

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 05:52 AM
Toronto at Atlanta 7:00 PM
Phoenix at Cleveland 7:00 PM
NY Knicks at Orlando 7:00 PM
Milwaukee at Washington 7:00 PM
Dallas at New Jersey 7:30 PM
Detroit at Chicago 8:00 PM
Memphis at Minnesota 8:00 PM
Philadelphia at Oklahoma City 8:00 PM NBA TV
Indiana at Sacramento 10:00 PM
Houston at LA Clippers 10:30 PM NBA TV

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 05:58 AM
This is the "showing up your old team" night.

Shaq has his best game as a Cavalier against his former team, but Amare too has a huge night and I feel Suns edge the Cavs in a close one.

Magic give the Knicks a beatdown

Raps beat the Hawks behind a huge night from both Bargs and Bosh

Nets Shocks the Mavs as Devin Harris plays his former team and drops 30+ pts and 10+ assts

Clippers beat the Rockets as they take momentum gained from that Memphis game.

Sactown outscores Indiana despite Granger having a big night.

Ben Gordon returns to Chicago and has a big night and is victorious against former team

Jennings has a big night in Washington, but Arenas has an even bigger night and Wizards prevail

Minnesota takes momentum from beating the Nuggets in Denver to have their first 2-game win streak of the season.

Sixers still struggling lose to the young Thunder led by Durant, Green and Westbrook

Gators123
12-02-2009, 06:21 AM
Ben Gordon returns to Chicago and has a big night and is victorious against former team


Its looking like Gordon wont be able to play because of a sprained ankle :mad:

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 11:50 AM
lol kobe24, your predictions are redic.

JWO35
12-02-2009, 02:58 PM
Its looking like Gordon wont be able to play because of a sprained ankle :mad:

Hell...we beat the Hawks without Gordon, I think we can beat the Bulls without him.

King P
12-02-2009, 03:39 PM
I think the Nets will beat the Mavs. After the Knicks beat down the Suns last night, it just reaffirmed my belief that anybody can beat anybody.

Big Zo
12-02-2009, 04:28 PM
As a Heat fan, I would love to see someone else have their awful record for consecutive losses to start a season. However, I also think it would be funny as hell to see another Mavs choke job.

AK-50
12-02-2009, 04:31 PM
i wanna see the nets go 0-18 first before they win

theuuord
12-02-2009, 04:33 PM
i'll be watching every play.

Gibby23
12-02-2009, 04:35 PM
I think it's funny that the Heat and the Nets will not be playing in June.

goku
12-02-2009, 04:35 PM
harris could have a big game since its against his former team

King P
12-02-2009, 04:35 PM
If the Knicks could beat down the Suns, there's no reason why the Nets can't beat the Mavs.

NyCsPoRtS1
12-02-2009, 04:43 PM
i hope cuz its the knicks destiny to lose to them imo

*Superman*
12-02-2009, 04:44 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1085/1239924483_5b8298f5e4.jpg

*Superman*
12-02-2009, 04:45 PM
Im pretty sure the Knicks would win against NJ.

Jetsguy
12-02-2009, 04:47 PM
^^^ the knicks did win against NJ

JDizzle
12-02-2009, 04:48 PM
I dont think they do.. I think its bad that the nets let it get this bad... now teams will play harder cause losing to them will seem embarssing

*Superman*
12-02-2009, 04:49 PM
^^^ the knicks did win against NJ

I guess I was responding to the post before me.

Ryan328
12-02-2009, 04:57 PM
Toronto at Atlanta 7:00 PM
Phoenix at Cleveland 7:00 PM
NY Knicks at Orlando 7:00 PM
Milwaukee at Washington 7:00 PM
Dallas at New Jersey 7:30 PM
Detroit at Chicago 8:00 PM
Memphis at Minnesota 8:00 PM
Philadelphia at Oklahoma City 8:00 PM NBA TV
Indiana at Sacramento 10:00 PM
Houston at LA Clippers 10:30 PM NBA TV

J_M_B
12-02-2009, 05:25 PM
Mavs will beat the Nets tonight

0-18

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 05:28 PM
I really do feel the Nets will beat the Mavs 2nite, Devin Harris is gonna have 30+ pts and 10+ assts. Thats just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.


However..............THIS IS A HATE THREAD, and should be closed! This is disrespecting the Mavs fans here on PSD, and that's just plain wrong. At the very least, this shouldnt be in the nba forum.

Mods, please close or delete this thread. Thank you.

J_M_B
12-02-2009, 05:30 PM
I think it's funny that the Heat and the Nets will not be playing in June.

I find it funny that Laker fans think they're a lock for the Finals this early in the season.

29$JerZ
12-02-2009, 05:31 PM
This is kind of a bait thread, and yeah its not cool to say Dallas will lose to the Nets in the NBA forum; at least keep it in each teams own forum.

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 05:31 PM
lol kobe24, your predictions are redic.

absolutely no hate on ur ball club. weird things have happened in the past. thats y they play the games.


and yes, i didnt realize that ben gordon isn't play cuz of a sprained ankle, then i think bulls willl beat the pistons.

*Superman*
12-02-2009, 05:31 PM
I really do feel the Nets will beat the Mavs 2nite, Devin Harris is gonna have 30+ pts and 10+ assts. Thats just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.


However..............THIS IS A HATE THREAD, and should be closed! This is disrespecting the Mavs fans here on PSD, and that's just plain wrong. At the very least, this shouldnt be in the nba forum.

Mods, please close or delete this thread. Thank you.

Someone is trying to kiss up to the mods. ;)

But at first i thought it was funny that the Nets were losing all there games. But now I truly feel bad for players and fans and wish them the best.

King P
12-02-2009, 05:33 PM
Remember the last time the Nets & Mavs played at the Izod Center? Devin Harris had 41 points & 13 assists.

Let's hope he can duplicate his performance :pray::pray::pray:

Big Zo
12-02-2009, 05:46 PM
I really do feel the Nets will beat the Mavs 2nite, Devin Harris is gonna have 30+ pts and 10+ assts. Thats just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.


However..............THIS IS A HATE THREAD, and should be closed! This is disrespecting the Mavs fans here on PSD, and that's just plain wrong. At the very least, this shouldnt be in the nba forum.

Mods, please close or delete this thread. Thank you.

No hating, just acknowledging the fact that something really funny can happen tonight.

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 05:51 PM
no need to have a title with "choke" and all that stuff.

and to you Superman12, I'm trying to improve as a PSD poster here. i'm trying not to be annoying and I don't wanna have bad reputation here on a PSD or anything like that. I probably came off as a laker homer kobe homer type of poster in the beginning, but Im really not like that. And i don't like it when one team is being singled out in a title of a thread such as that.


and i don't really need to suck up to the mods. hell, i get infractions and stuff all the time from them, so i don't really get wut ur sayin.

Spurred1
12-02-2009, 05:51 PM
Your definition of "really funny" is lacking.

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 05:53 PM
Your definition of "really funny" is lacking.

He means that Ron Artest is gonna come to the Mavs locker room at halftime and give each player a bottle of Hennesy so that he can get them drunk, and the Nets have a better shot of winning.

Big Zo
12-02-2009, 05:55 PM
no need to have a title with "choke" and all that stuff.

and to you Superman12, I'm trying to improve as a PSD poster here. i'm trying not to be annoying and I don't wanna have bad reputation here on a PSD or anything like that. I probably came off as a laker homer kobe homer type of poster in the beginning, but Im really not like that. And i don't like it when one team is being singled out in a title of a thread such as that.


and i don't really need to suck up to the mods. hell, i get infractions and stuff all the time from them, so i don't really get wut ur sayin.

That probably won't happen until that Lakers sig is gone. :D Anyway, nothing wrong with voicing opinions. If someone feels a team will choke, they have a right to post it.

thedfactor
12-02-2009, 05:55 PM
I can understand how some can think the Mavs will lose because they have lost the last three in NJ.

However, the first of those two were when the Nets had Kidd/RJ/VC then they had Kidd/VC vs Harris-less Mavs right before the trade. Last season the Nets pounded the Mavs behind Harris' dominant play.

That said, I think this Nets team really is struggling and aren't nearly as good and the Mavericks team has improved and playing particularly well at 13-5.

Dallas ought to win comfortably tonight, but I'm not just going to count NJ out.

TheKing23
12-02-2009, 05:55 PM
Toronto at Atlanta 7:00 PM
Phoenix at Cleveland 7:00 PM
NY Knicks at Orlando 7:00 PM
Milwaukee at Washington 7:00 PM
Dallas at New Jersey 7:30 PM
Detroit at Chicago 8:00 PM
Memphis at Minnesota 8:00 PM
Philadelphia at Oklahoma City 8:00 PM NBA TV
Indiana at Sacramento 10:00 PM
Houston at LA Clippers 10:30 PM NBA TV

MVMarauder
12-02-2009, 05:58 PM
I find it funny that Laker fans think they're a lock for the Finals this early in the season.

Thats what we thought last season. Look what happened.

mikantsass
12-02-2009, 06:00 PM
I find it funny that Laker fans think they're a lock for the Finals this early in the season.

They think they are a lock for the finals next year too

SteveNash
12-02-2009, 06:09 PM
I think it's funny that the Heat and the Nets will not be playing in May.

Fixed.

So how are the Nets going to win this one? Is the NBA going to be sending the refs from Game 5 of the 2006 Finals?

Cromedome
12-02-2009, 06:09 PM
I want to see 0 - 18 but too bad the Knick game is on tonight.

BALLER71
12-02-2009, 06:12 PM
I really do feel the Nets will beat the Mavs 2nite, Devin Harris is gonna have 30+ pts and 10+ assts. Thats just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.


However..............THIS IS A HATE THREAD, and should be closed! This is disrespecting the Mavs fans here on PSD, and that's just plain wrong. At the very least, this shouldnt be in the nba forum.

Mods, please close or delete this thread. Thank you.

Let the mods do their job. I always see you in the NBA forum saying "Close this! Merge that! This doesn't belong here!"

STFU.

Pierzynski4Prez
12-02-2009, 06:27 PM
Let the mods do their job. I always see you in the NBA forum saying "Close this! Merge that! This doesn't belong here!"

STFU.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Gnac76
12-02-2009, 06:27 PM
Is this thread for real?

All I can say is the guy that made this is gonna look like a genius or a complete idiot...

GodsSon
12-02-2009, 06:30 PM
stranger things have happened, but probability tells me this scenario is not likely lol

Big Zo
12-02-2009, 06:34 PM
Is this thread for real?

All I can say is the guy that made this is gonna look like a genius or a complete idiot...

My team's horrible record to start a season will be broken, or I'll get to see the Mavs choke again. Either way it's a win win situation for me.

ProdigyI
12-02-2009, 06:43 PM
Mavs will win

Highlight
12-02-2009, 06:46 PM
I really doubt this happens, but if it does, it will be a nice story.

Devin Harris and Lopez will have to come up really big for them to win. I'm sure Devin is pumped, but when the Lakers played them, they looked terrible. Their offense was completely out of wack, so like I said earlier, I really doubt they win.

Mark Cuban will commit suicide if they lose tonight.

GoatMilk
12-02-2009, 06:57 PM
awesome this has a thread.

i too believe the nets win tonight

Strumpy
12-02-2009, 06:57 PM
Mark Cuban will commit suicide if they lose tonight.

:laugh:
Imagine the look on Cuban's face if they're losing by 30 in the fourth

MTar786
12-02-2009, 07:16 PM
I find it funny that Laker fans think they're a lock for the Finals this early in the season.

he didnt say anything about us being a lock to be in the finals. he just said YOU.. as in MIAMI is a lock NOT to be in the finals

sofargone
12-02-2009, 08:21 PM
if the knicks can beat phoenix, if the twolves can beat denver....anything is possible

theuuord
12-02-2009, 08:30 PM
if the nets win the "thank you cuban" chants will go on for days.

jimbobjarree
12-02-2009, 08:33 PM
go Nets

Giannis94
12-02-2009, 08:35 PM
Hakeem Warrick just got pushed in the back and Skiles got fired up, ran on court and yelled at the ref.. It was pretty funny.....anyone else see that?

sofargone
12-02-2009, 08:39 PM
no

Vinny642
12-02-2009, 08:40 PM
lol but a thread for this, sorry no brownie points

Ray_R
12-02-2009, 08:41 PM
if the knicks can beat phoenix, if the twolves can beat denver....anything is possible

:nod: where amazing happens;)

Highlight
12-02-2009, 08:42 PM
:laugh:
Imagine the look on Cuban's face if they're losing by 30 in the fourth

Exactly!

All I know is it would be funny as hell. :D

Silent
12-02-2009, 08:46 PM
As a Heat fan, I would love to see someone else have their awful record for consecutive losses to start a season. However, I also think it would be funny as hell to see another Mavs choke job.

u should get used too it when wade leaves:D


jsut defending the mav fans


not trolling

BlondeBomber41
12-02-2009, 08:51 PM
As a Heat fan, I would love to see someone else have their awful record for consecutive losses to start a season. However, I also think it would be funny as hell to see another Mavs choke job.

As long as Devin Harris doesn't get like 30 FT's this game I think we'll be ok.

Iodine
12-02-2009, 08:51 PM
Seeing that would require watching the bucks so no

skiles is the biggest boss that's been seen thus far according to Rick Ross though

superkegger
12-02-2009, 08:54 PM
Seeing that would require watching the bucks so no

skiles is the biggest boss that's been seen thus far according to Rick Ross though

and rick ross knows something about bosses. just ask Murs.

sofargone
12-02-2009, 08:54 PM
Toronto at Atlanta 7:00 PM
Phoenix at Cleveland 7:00 PM
NY Knicks at Orlando 7:00 PM
Milwaukee at Washington 7:00 PM
Dallas at New Jersey 7:30 PM
Detroit at Chicago 8:00 PM
Memphis at Minnesota 8:00 PM
Philadelphia at Oklahoma City 8:00 PM NBA TV
Indiana at Sacramento 10:00 PM
Houston at LA Clippers 10:30 PM NBA TV

Iodine
12-02-2009, 08:56 PM
Murs is better than sex

superkegger
12-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Murs is better than sex

some would even say murs is sex.

Duncan = Donkey
12-02-2009, 09:04 PM
cavs blowing out the suns after we got blown out by the knicks. something is wrong with them

Gibby23
12-02-2009, 09:05 PM
Suns are getting waxed.

bigsams50
12-02-2009, 09:05 PM
whts up with vince shooting all these threes? he has 8 FG attempts, 5 are 3's

Gibby23
12-02-2009, 09:06 PM
cavs blowing out the suns after we got blown out by the knicks. something is wrong with them

Dennis Green just called and said: They are who we thought they were!

TheKing23
12-02-2009, 09:09 PM
Suns averaging 112 a game this year... 29 in the first half :ouch:

Duncan = Donkey
12-02-2009, 09:14 PM
all you can do is laugh i suppose, 29 in 1st half unacceptable.

Go_NUGGETS
12-02-2009, 09:16 PM
Murs is better than sex

Murs sucks....Without 9th wonders beats he wouldn't be ****.


Just thought I would throw that in.

BlondeBomber41
12-02-2009, 09:28 PM
Mavs up 59-44, "Big Zo" can blow it out his ***.

BlondeBomber41
12-02-2009, 09:30 PM
Now its 66-46. Even better.

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 09:36 PM
Mavs dominating.

My bad Mavrix

BlondeBomber41
12-02-2009, 09:38 PM
Mavericks 77
Nets 50

at the half. Mavericks shooting 80.6% in the first half.

:pity: to anyone who actually thought the Mavs could lose tonight.

GoatMilk
12-02-2009, 09:39 PM
holy crap

80.6%


:speechless:

fairandbalanced
12-02-2009, 09:40 PM
I was kinda watching the Hawks play the Raptors, and for about 10 minutes, I thought I was watching Hawks play the Nets.

GoatMilk
12-02-2009, 09:42 PM
Mavs shot 29/36 in the first half

WOW

madiaz3
12-02-2009, 09:52 PM
Magic shot 10/11 threes in the 3rd quarter vs. the Knicks D:

JJ_JKidd
12-02-2009, 10:05 PM
Down to 19... OMFG Mavs

BlondeBomber41
12-02-2009, 10:18 PM
Down to 19... OMFG Mavs

Up to 27 again, calm down.

JJ_JKidd
12-02-2009, 10:22 PM
Kidd 16 pts, 10 assists, 7 boards, 3 TOs, 5 steals. Still a quarter to go.

JJ_JKidd
12-02-2009, 10:27 PM
Aw man I guess no trip doub for grandpa Kidd. Its garbage time. Well he already did his job of helping his new team burry his old team to oblivion--- in just three quarters.

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 10:31 PM
can you blame them?

i mean it's not like the Mavs dont have a history of choking or anything...

Against 0-17 teams...you're right. Admit your mistake and move on :facepalm:

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 10:31 PM
zomg the mavs have so many haters!

You being one ;)

HoopsDrive
12-02-2009, 10:32 PM
I'm just gonna say one thing:

TOR@ATL

Hawks have 9 players in double figures.... holy ****

And the streak is still alive... 0-18 now? Daamn...

theuuord
12-02-2009, 10:42 PM
And you're a hater whoms team just got owned. 0-18, worst start EVER. lmfao

lmao, could you please find a post with me hating on the Mavericks? ever?

The only thing I remember saying on the subject is asking if people really hated the Mavericks, because they just don't seem to invoke hatred.
I'm getting a big insecurity vibe here.

also you're not gonna "own" any nets fans, because most of us could care less about wins and losses this season. if anything i find it hilarious.

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 10:43 PM
Kidd needs 2 rebounds to get a triple double!

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 10:46 PM
Big uuuuups to all ma haaaaaaaaaatas

im a doubta, not a hata

:D

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 10:46 PM
lmao, could you please find a post with me hating on the Mavericks? ever?

The only thing I remember saying on the subject is asking if people really hated the Mavericks, because they just don't seem to invoke hatred.
I'm getting a big insecurity vibe here.

also you're not gonna "own" any nets fans, because most of us could care less about wins and losses this season. if anything i find it hilarious.

I never said the fans got owned, but the team sure did tonight. And don't act like you don't hate on the Mavs, I've been a quite a few arguments with you over the team.

sofargone
12-02-2009, 10:47 PM
Murs sucks....Without 9th wonders beats he wouldn't be ****.


Just thought I would throw that in.

gtfo

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 10:47 PM
And you're a hater whoms team just got owned. 0-18, worst start EVER. lmfao

no need to keep kicking someone when they're down

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 10:48 PM
im a doubta, not a hata

:D

lol i'll give you that.

Btw Suns lose their second straight game. I told you they would do bad during this stretch. They're about to play 5 or 6 more playoff teams in a row.

theuuord
12-02-2009, 10:49 PM
I never said the fans got owned, but the team sure did tonight. And don't act like you don't hate on the Mavs, I've been a quite a few arguments with you over the team.

what? what are you talking about? i barely know who you are.

i'm sure i've argued against the mavericks. i've argued against a lot of teams and a lot of players. that doesn't mean i hate them, that means i'm debating points. if you're taking it personally, then it means too much to you.

BlondeBomber41
12-02-2009, 10:52 PM
To all the people who thought Devin Harris was gonna murder the Mavs tonight.... he got outscored by ERICK DAMPIER.

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 10:53 PM
what? what are you talking about? i barely know who you are.

i'm sure i've argued against the mavericks. i've argued against a lot of teams and a lot of players. that doesn't mean i hate them, that means i'm debating points. if you're taking it personally, then it means too much to you.

If I had the time to look up past posts and arguments I've had with you, I would.

Regardless good game and good luck this season. T-Wolves should beat you out for the worst overall record in my opinion. You guys are more talented.

theuuord
12-02-2009, 10:55 PM
If I had the time to look up past posts and arguments I've had with you, I would.

trust me dude. i have no hate towards the Mavs.


Regardless good game and good luck this season. T-Wolves should beat you out for the worst overall record in my opinion. You guys are more talented.

it should really be "good luck next season," lol. I agree that the T-Wolves are a worse team, but like i said in the other thread, at least we have a record.

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 11:00 PM
trust me dude. i have no hate towards the Mavs.



it should really be "good luck next season," lol. I agree that the T-Wolves are a worse team, but like i said in the other thread, at least we have a record.You can't say "at least" to a record like that.

Anyway just out of curiousity what's the record for the longest losing streak?

HoopsDrive
12-02-2009, 11:09 PM
ffs... 0-24 by Cleveland

What's the next 6 games for the Nets? They're doomed if any of the teams have a better record than .400

_KB24_
12-02-2009, 11:16 PM
Good win for the Mavs. I was wrong. I admit it.

Mavrix
12-02-2009, 11:23 PM
Good win for the Mavs. I was wrong. I admit it.

I still like your sig more than mine.

king9er
12-02-2009, 11:27 PM
boykins

HoopsDrive
12-02-2009, 11:29 PM
Greatest dunker of all time, we all know it damnit

_KB24_
12-02-2009, 11:36 PM
I still like your sig more than mine.

aha its cool. Was the game just horrific on NJ's part? I mean Dampier outscoring Harris.........:speechless:

ko8e24
12-02-2009, 11:39 PM
lol i'll give you that.

Btw Suns lose their second straight game. I told you they would do bad during this stretch. They're about to play 5 or 6 more playoff teams in a row.

Suns @ Lakers this Sunday = Beatdown!


This is what I meant when I said that the Suns "Are Not For Real". giving that many pts to knicks and cavs on back-to-back nights is inexcusable

GoatMilk
12-03-2009, 12:33 AM
Bron looks like a Knick lol

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/54/fullj.e3a1a3be04204ef806d2440969755ec1/e3a1a3be04204ef806d2440969755ec1-getty-90041107jg024_suns_cavs.jpg

Team*Chicago
12-03-2009, 01:28 AM
Bron looks like a Knick lol

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/54/fullj.e3a1a3be04204ef806d2440969755ec1/e3a1a3be04204ef806d2440969755ec1-getty-90041107jg024_suns_cavs.jpg

-amn, he really do look like a Knick. The Cavaliers and Knicks fans are going to be pumped up about this picture.

Mavrix
12-03-2009, 01:29 AM
aha its cool. Was the game just horrific on NJ's part? I mean Dampier outscoring Harris.........:speechless:

Haha yeah, Dallas was up 27 at the half (80.7% shooting - franchise record) and went up by as many as 31. They played mostly bench players in the last 8 minutes which brought down the margin to 16 but still.

I'm curious to see where this team will be when Howard comes back in a couple of weeks.