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Venomous88
11-28-2009, 05:02 AM
I don't know if I'm the only one, but Wade, simply, has been playing horrible this season. Aside from the fact that all his numbers are down from last year, the most notable is how horrible he's been shooting and his shot selection

Last season, he was shooting a near career best .491% from the field and shot a career best .317% 3PT FG. Now, he's at 421% 15 games in the seasonand his FT attempts are that highest they ever been. In this point in his career, he's supposed to take more jump shots than driving as I've seen him doing a lot. It's not only smarter avoiding the physical toll fouls put on your body, but it's more ideal given his body size. Don't get me wrong, Wade could easily dunk on your favorite big man, but I rather see him take the open jumpshot. I

It's just frustrating to see this decline especially when the typical player is to peak around 28 y/o. Also, with James not the clear candidate for MVP this year, Wade has an even better shot at winning this year. But with these numbers and losing games we could easily win against teams like the Wizards and the Thunder, players like Melo and Dirk are moving ahead in the race. Hopefully Wade picks up and brings his numbers back up for another MVP like season.

abe_froman
11-28-2009, 05:14 AM
last year,his season was a historic season(just well someone had an even more historic one),but you likely werent going to see that again.

Venomous88
11-28-2009, 05:20 AM
last year,his season was a historic season(just well someone had an even more historic one),but you likely werent going to see that again.You're missing what I'm highlighting which is his shooting percentage. He's never shot this bad in his career, so it has nothing to do with him having a historic season last year.

abe_froman
11-28-2009, 05:21 AM
You're missing what I'm highlighting which is his shooting percentage. He's never shot this bad in his career, so it has nothing to do with him having a historic season last year.

its early yet,he'll get going

Gambeezy
11-28-2009, 05:40 AM
I wouldn't worry about it man. He'll pick up his play. It's still early.

Big Zo
11-28-2009, 06:16 AM
He hasn't declined. I just think he's trying to stay healthy in a contract year. I was expecting this is what I'd see from him this year and sure enough, here it is.

Kakaroach
11-28-2009, 11:46 AM
Yeah I wouldn't worry about Wade, he'll get in a rhythm eventually. And like the other guy said, he might be trying to avoid any major injury.

randomness
11-28-2009, 11:47 AM
probably just warming up.. I wouldn't worry

FlakeyFool
11-28-2009, 11:49 AM
Yeah you guys should just trade him, to the raptors preferably

Big Zo
11-28-2009, 12:35 PM
Yeah you guys should just trade him, to the raptors preferably

He's been good to us. Why would we wanna send him to hell? :D

AIMelo=KillaDUO
11-28-2009, 12:58 PM
yea i have him on my fantasy team.... he's pissin me off,

philab
11-28-2009, 12:58 PM
He hasn't declined. I just think he's trying to stay healthy in a contract year. I was expecting this is what I'd see from him this year and sure enough, here it is.

Whoa, that's pretty ridiculous. There's no way Wade doesn't get the max somewhere. I don't think a contract has much to do with this.


Wade had a crazy-good season last year -- I really doubt he'll replicate that this year. Right now, it's only 15 games in and he's not playing well. He'll get back up to speed eventually. In the meantime, he should be thankful that he's probably the most protected player in the league.

Chronz
11-28-2009, 01:15 PM
Hes not really playing any differently, hes actually taking more jumpers this year its just that the midrange shots hes taking arent going in as frequently as they were last year. It'll either turn around, or this is his true skill level. Last year was much better than his career average from midrange and to some thats a bad sign going forward as shooting% from long-midrange jumpers vary more wildly than the rest of a players game, but it was legit improvement IMO so he will return to form once hes out of the slump. I doubt he replicates last years run of dominance but that was expected.

sep11ie
11-28-2009, 01:21 PM
I don't know if I'm the only one, but Wade, simply, has been playing horrible this season. Aside from the fact that all his numbers are down from last year, the most notable is how horrible he's been shooting and his shot selection

Last season, he was shooting a near career best .491% from the field and shot a career best .317% 3PT FG. Now, he's at 421% 15 games in the seasonand his FT attempts are that highest they ever been. In this point in his career, he's supposed to take more jump shots than driving as I've seen him doing a lot. It's not only smarter avoiding the physical toll fouls put on your body, but it's more ideal given his body size. Don't get me wrong, Wade could easily dunk on your favorite big man, but I rather see him take the open jumpshot. I

It's just frustrating to see this decline especially when the typical player is to peak around 28 y/o. Also, with James not the clear candidate for MVP this year, Wade has an even better shot at winning this year. But with these numbers and losing games we could easily win against teams like the Wizards and the Thunder, players like Melo and Dirk are moving ahead in the race. Hopefully Wade picks up and brings his numbers back up for another MVP like season.

27/5 is a slow start? Ok, someone is spoiled. You stat junkies are ********. Wade is easily top 3 in the league. Look at his 4th quarter points if you want a stat.

Big Zo
11-28-2009, 01:38 PM
Whoa, that's pretty ridiculous. There's no way Wade doesn't get the max somewhere. I don't think a contract has much to do with this.


Wade had a crazy-good season last year -- I really doubt he'll replicate that this year. Right now, it's only 15 games in and he's not playing well. He'll get back up to speed eventually. In the meantime, he should be thankful that he's probably the most protected player in the league.

Right, because there's so many teams with enough cap space to sign him. If he has a serious injury, I doubt he'll get as much as he would if he were healthy. He'd still get paid pretty good, but i'm not so sure about a max.

Kakaroach
11-28-2009, 01:44 PM
Right, because there's so many teams with enough cap space to sign him. If he has a serious injury, I doubt he'll get as much as he would if he were healthy. He'd still get paid pretty good, but i'm not so sure about a max. No, even then I'm sure he would get the max. Especially when 2 teams that can will in New York and New Jersey.

dwadefan03
11-28-2009, 01:58 PM
everyone goes through a slump in their careers, this is his

Big Zo
11-28-2009, 02:01 PM
No, even then I'm sure he would get the max. Especially when 2 teams that can will in New York and New Jersey.

Why would they wanna go after damaged goods when they can go after a bunch of other all-stars that will be available? Especially if he gets hurt late in the season and would have to miss a significant amount of time next year.

Kakaroach
11-28-2009, 02:09 PM
Why would they wanna go after damaged goods when they can go after a bunch of other all-stars that will be available? Especially if he gets hurt late in the season and would have to miss a significant amount of time next year. You seriously think a team as desperate as the Knicks and Nets won't offer Wade a max contract just cuz of an injury? He's proven he can bounce back from them. Unless of course the injury is career-ending, but that would be obvious.

NyCsPoRtS1
11-28-2009, 02:17 PM
hes gettin old play is starting to decline and since when can he shoot 3's??? maybe nobody else can on that scrub team

Raph12
11-28-2009, 02:20 PM
It's early, I expect him and Dwight to pick up their play and be among the elite again by the end of this season.

tr4shb0t
11-28-2009, 02:20 PM
Him posterizing Varejao makes up for it. That was nasty.

MiamiHeat
11-28-2009, 02:22 PM
hes gettin old play is starting to decline and since when can he shoot 3's??? maybe nobody else can on that scrub team

:facepalm:

NyCsPoRtS1
11-28-2009, 02:31 PM
^^ it is what it is deal wit it

MiamiHeat
11-28-2009, 02:33 PM
^^ it is what it is deal wit it

he's 27....just hitting his prime
and he has been hitting 3s...but you wouldn't know since you don't watch the Heat play and don't know what your talking about. nobody else can shoot 3s on our team? really lol... we have james jones and daequan cook (3 point shooutout champion)

and you being a Knicks fan you shouldn't be talking about scrub teams
:pity:

Brew Crew
11-28-2009, 02:38 PM
He might be thinking a little to much about his future :eyebrow:

JordansBulls
11-28-2009, 02:39 PM
I don't know if I'm the only one, but Wade, simply, has been playing horrible this season. Aside from the fact that all his numbers are down from last year, the most notable is how horrible he's been shooting and his shot selection

Last season, he was shooting a near career best .491% from the field and shot a career best .317% 3PT FG. Now, he's at 421% 15 games in the seasonand his FT attempts are that highest they ever been. In this point in his career, he's supposed to take more jump shots than driving as I've seen him doing a lot. It's not only smarter avoiding the physical toll fouls put on your body, but it's more ideal given his body size. Don't get me wrong, Wade could easily dunk on your favorite big man, but I rather see him take the open jumpshot. I

It's just frustrating to see this decline especially when the typical player is to peak around 28 y/o. Also, with James not the clear candidate for MVP this year, Wade has an even better shot at winning this year. But with these numbers and losing games we could easily win against teams like the Wizards and the Thunder, players like Melo and Dirk are moving ahead in the race. Hopefully Wade picks up and brings his numbers back up for another MVP like season.

He is ready to come to Chicago.

MiamiHeat
11-28-2009, 02:40 PM
^ or saving himself for next year when Miami signs Bosh and contend :D

Wade+Bosh

NyCsPoRtS1
11-28-2009, 02:58 PM
he's 27....just hitting his prime
and he has been hitting 3s...but you wouldn't know since you don't watch the Heat play and don't know what your talking about. nobody else can shoot 3s on our team? really lol... we have james jones and daequan cook (3 point shooutout champion)

and you being a Knicks fan you shouldn't be talking about scrub teams
:pity:

dont have to get mad homie chill out id slap you in the mouth if i was infront of you minus wade the heat suck its obvious beasley is a scrub hes not good never will be chalmers ok and nobody is playing well on the team wade was my pick for mvp this yr i think hell turn it around but they still suck until they get a second player (big man) only reason they avg cuz they in the easy easy

NyCsPoRtS1
11-28-2009, 02:58 PM
east

iggypop123
11-28-2009, 04:21 PM
so much for the mvp talk

pippsux
11-28-2009, 04:27 PM
D money is heading to <insert destination here>. I watched the wiz vs the Heat in Miami and good God! There were empty seats, dead arena, no buzz, nothing! I think the fans have moved on and maybe time for Dwade to go somewhere where he doesn't have to remind the fans that this is house.

Gambeezy
11-28-2009, 06:13 PM
hes gettin old play is starting to decline and since when can he shoot 3's??? maybe nobody else can on that scrub team

Is that the prognosis, doctor? Thanks for that, because for a minute there I was starting to think that maybe he was trying to take it a little easier this season by including his teammates a bit more in order to reserve his body for the contender that Riley is going to build next season. And yes, Wade can hit 3's. Watch him play sometime. Need I mention Chalmers, Cook, Jones for 3's?




dont have to get mad homie chill out id slap you in the mouth if i was infront of you minus wade the heat suck its obvious beasley is a scrub hes not good never will be chalmers ok and nobody is playing well on the team wade was my pick for mvp this yr i think hell turn it around but they still suck until they get a second player (big man) only reason they avg cuz they in the easy east

Don't be a petty internet bad-***. You can't follow-up any threats, so why make them?

Is it obvious Beasley is a scrub and will always be? That's strange b/c I'm pretty sure he was top 5 in the league for per minute scoring last year as a rookie in his limited minutes off the bench. That progression has led him to a limited starting role which he is fulfilling nicely. I'm quite happy with his handful of double-doubles.

As bad as you think the East may be, it makes you look silly when you call a team "scrubby" when they have the 5th seed. Save those labels for teams that have no hope to see the playoffs......like the Knicks.

Pornstar86
11-28-2009, 07:05 PM
^^^ damn ownage

philab
11-28-2009, 11:49 PM
Right, because there's so many teams with enough cap space to sign him. If he has a serious injury, I doubt he'll get as much as he would if he were healthy. He'd still get paid pretty good, but i'm not so sure about a max.

SOMEONE will offer him the max no matter what happens to him this season. As long as one team does, he'll be getting the max. Miami will pretty clearly be offering the max anyway -- I find it real hard to believe that he'd leave Miami for less than the max.

fishfan79
11-28-2009, 11:56 PM
ehhh last week talking about how he was the mvp now we are talking of him for a slow start.

Perhaps an off week or personal issues, it happens with atheletes in every sport. Even pujols has problems, even peyton can have an off week, even wade or kobe can.

lets see what happens over the next few months. The heat will be in the top group most likely all year long no biggie

HuRRiCaNeS324
11-29-2009, 12:26 AM
I think 90% of it is trying to reserve his body for next year. There's really no point trying to kill himself for nothing. Last year he did because he was trying to prove something. The only thing left for him to do this year is to maintain his health and get his teammates involved while at the same time trying to make the playoffs.

HuRRiCaNeS324
11-29-2009, 12:30 AM
hes gettin old play is starting to decline and since when can he shoot 3's??? maybe nobody else can on that scrub team

Is it possible to make a stupider comment? :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Chicagofaithful
11-29-2009, 12:34 AM
he's trying to look less appealing to heat fans so they wont be as mad when he visits Miami in a bulls jersey.... lmao

iggypop123
11-29-2009, 01:31 AM
Is it possible to make a stupider comment? :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

you just did

_KB24_
11-29-2009, 01:43 AM
Isn't he still averaging like 28+ points?

So much for a slow start lol.

Raph12
11-29-2009, 01:57 AM
Isn't he still averaging like 28+ points?

So much for a slow start lol.

On 42% from the field and 27% from the arc, he's playing sort of like a poor man's Allen Iverson lol.

Venomous88
12-17-2009, 12:46 PM
He's pissing me off right now

Raph12
12-17-2009, 01:09 PM
I told Heat fans that there was still seperation between Wade from the top player spot currently being contested for by Kobe and Lebron.

One season doesn't make you the best player in the league, consistency is just as important.

fairandbalanced
12-17-2009, 01:16 PM
I guess when a whole city and franchise is kissing your behind, you won't give a ****. He's been playing as if he's doing it as a favor, getting paid millions just to act stupid is something I still do not understand. I wish the NBA will adopt non-guaranteed contracts, just to make people take the game more seriously.

Raoul Duke
12-17-2009, 02:46 PM
I think part of it is his conditioning. Did anyone notice how buff he was last season? During his rehab from his last few injuries, he's really been hitting the weight room. Hard. I think maybe he needs to get a little leaner again, and find a balance that allows him to be strong enough to avoid injury but light enough that he doesn't seem slowed.

Chronz
12-17-2009, 07:48 PM
The slow start is really starting to impact the team, early in the thread you had your routine "hes purposely dropping his stats for the team", the Heat were 8-2 or something so nobody spoke out, but now back at .500 the Heat need Beasley or Wade to come through now.

b_rad23
12-17-2009, 07:58 PM
DId I miss something?

The Heat won last game in a blowout no?

Why the bump?

dodie53
12-17-2009, 08:17 PM
the heat should trade for MJ
:lol:

saucy1
12-17-2009, 08:40 PM
d wade is an arrogant punk biggest jerk ive ever run into

IRUAM #21
12-17-2009, 09:59 PM
I guess when a whole city and franchise is kissing your behind, you won't give a ****. He's been playing as if he's doing it as a favor, getting paid millions just to act stupid is something I still do not understand. I wish the NBA will adopt non-guaranteed contracts, just to make people take the game more seriously.

:laugh:

Bishnoff
12-17-2009, 10:09 PM
Maybe he's already checked out of Miami and is thinking towards next season and a new club?

Raph12
12-17-2009, 10:31 PM
the heat should trade for MJ
:lol:

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... but Michael Jackson passed away earlier this year.

heathonater
12-18-2009, 01:36 AM
I bet every team in the league would be all over themselves to have wade during his "slump". I'm sure his percentages will improve throughout the year and he will have another mvp caliber season.

TheKing23
12-18-2009, 01:46 AM
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... but Michael Jackson passed away earlier this year.

I think he was talking about the greatest ever... Mike James.

nipo10847
12-18-2009, 01:59 AM
d wade is an arrogant punk biggest jerk ive ever run into:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::
Do you have a life??? If you dont then just PM me so I can send you one.

Chronz
12-18-2009, 12:52 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-091217/daily-dime

Hollinger tries to explain Wades decline and how its impacting the team. Pat Riley says Wade isnt in the same conditioning level yet.


The first possibility is that the Heat's improved supporting cast, paired with the usual dose of awesomeness from Dwyane Wade, will propel Miami to a top-five seed in the East and perhaps a run into the second round of the playoffs.

The alternate one, however, is that the Heat's upgrades will be made irrelevant by a decline in Wade's numbers, leaving Miami right back where it was a last season as mediocre, first-round roadkill.


Wades shooting stats

Distance
2008-09 Pct. 2009-10 Pct.
0-5 feet 65.1 59.2
6-10 feet 46.6 40.0
11-15 feet 45.6 41.3
16-20 feet 42.1 31.6
21+ feet 33.1 28.0

superkegger
12-18-2009, 06:01 PM
Basically, Wade had a great year last year, that he simply can't top. He peaked last year individually. Plus, he plays for a ****** team. ****** teams don't make you look good, especially when you play bad.

Toenail Clipper
12-18-2009, 06:04 PM
Maybe it's just that last year was a great year for him, doesn't mean that Wade will have those kinds of runs where he was MVP Caliber.

b_rad23
12-18-2009, 06:15 PM
He went with a new strategy where he would pack on some pounds and ease himself into ideal shape in order to keep from injury and exhaustion.

His numbers should get back to last year's pace for the rest of the year, however his overall numbers won't be on that level because of the poor start.

Chronz
12-18-2009, 06:38 PM
He went with a new strategy where he would pack on some pounds and ease himself into ideal shape in order to keep from injury and exhaustion.

His numbers should get back to last year's pace for the rest of the year, however his overall numbers won't be on that level because of the poor start.

To be honest I wouldnt be surprised if Wade becomes the kind of guy who just blows up in the playoffs and thats where he makes his mark, last year he went all out all year but didnt really explode in the playoffs. The Heat probably dont need him to be super human to make the playoffs so its not a bad choice.

superkegger
12-18-2009, 06:43 PM
To be honest I wouldnt be surprised if Wade becomes the kind of guy who just blows up in the playoffs and thats where he makes his mark, last year he went all out all year but didnt really explode in the playoffs. The Heat probably dont need him to be super human to make the playoffs so its not a bad choice.

Thing is, he'll have to blow up vs. orlando/atlanta/boston/cleveland

which he could, but is it enough to beat those teams in a 7 game series? I doubt it.

which leaves him with a few great performances in the playoffs in a series loss.

big whoop.

Chronz
12-18-2009, 07:12 PM
Thing is, he'll have to blow up vs. orlando/atlanta/boston/cleveland

which he could, but is it enough to beat those teams in a 7 game series? I doubt it.

which leaves him with a few great performances in the playoffs in a series loss.

big whoop.

Thats what people thought when LeBron was pacing himself the year he went to the finals. People were saying he should go all out and that he was disappointing the fans by not building on the season he had the year prior. Only to bust out against the Pistons a seemingly unbeatable team. Wade and several other stars have gone this route, pacing oneself is a natural progression of a players career. Is it a weakness? Thats up to you, but its worth a shot if your the player, afterall its not like those playoff runs are for nothing, if your the kind of fan who only remembers playoff runs that ended with a chip or Finals birth then I dont know what else to say. As a fan of Wade it probably would be best to have a better regular season but to say having the best playoff run he possibly can is no big whoop is going too far.

Im sure if Wade had a chance to compete for a title again like having Shaq type player drop on his lap again he would respond with a much greater effort in the regular season, he would be looking for glory. But Wade had that last year so what really does he have left to gain/prove by carrying this Heat team all out right now? I wouldnt blame him if he were pacing himself, and using the regular season to get into game shape instead.

Then again I was one of the few who thought Shaq using company time to heal up was a good thing.