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DenButsu
11-26-2009, 09:27 PM
On your team or in the league, whose free throw shooting form do you like/dislike the most?

On the Nuggets, the answer is easy: Billups is the man. He always toes one foot right up to the line with the other set slightly back, gets a great release and a nice arc. And what's even better is that I've noticed that a lot of his teammates (including J.R. Smith) have followed suit and emulate his stance.

But not Kenyon Martin. His form is terrible. A couple games ago I watched him take a trip to the line where he was standing at least a full foot back from the line, his shoulders weren't even squared up and directly facing the basket (it looked almost like he was facing the courtside photographers - or maybe dancers? :rolleyes: ). And his release looks more like a volleyball bump than a proper basketball shot. Ug-lay.

So, who has the best or worst free throw shooting form on your team?


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This thread was inspired by the following article:


The physics of free throw shooting
By J.E. Skeets

For those NBA players struggling at the charity stripe this season I'm looking at you, Shaq. I'm always looking at you two NC State engineers have figured out the best way to shoot a free throw (http://news.ncsu.edu/uncategorized/161mkfreethrow/).

Drs. Chau Tran and Larry Silverberg used hundreds of thousands of three-dimensional computer simulations of free throw trajectories to arrive at a number of major recommendations to improve your chances of throwing up a swish rather than a brick.

Go science!


First, the engineers say that shooters should launch the shot with about three hertz of back spin. That translates to the ball making three complete backspinning revolutions before reaching the hoop. Back spin deadens the ball when it bounces off the rim or backboard, the engineers assert, giving the ball a better chance of settling through the net.

Where to aim? Tran and Silverberg say you should aim for the back of the rim, leaving close to 5 centimeters about 2 inches between the ball and the back of the rim. According to the simulations, aiming for the center of the basket decreases the probabilities of a successful shot by almost 3 percent.

The engineers say that the ball should be launched at 52 degrees to the horizontal. If you don't have a protractor in your jersey, that means that the shot should, at the highest point in its arc to the basket, be less than 2 inches below the top of the backboard.

Free-throw shooters should also release the ball as high above the ground as possible, without adversely affecting the consistency of the shot; release the ball so it follows the imaginary line joining the player and the basket; and release the ball with a smooth body motion to get a consistent release speed.

Also, just a personal bit of advice here practice.Ball Don't Lie (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/The-physics-of-free-throw-shooting?urn=nba,205144)

ldc62
11-26-2009, 09:30 PM
Look at last years league leaders in FT%. Jose Calderon has a pretty good form. So does Ray Allen. Billups isn't bad either. IMO Nash has a very very smooth ft shot.

WORST: CHUCK HAYES...

Highlight
11-26-2009, 09:33 PM
Anthony Mason's free throw shooting form was pretty nasty.

Shady66
11-26-2009, 09:40 PM
For the suns, Steve Nash has an excellent form,

I dont really like how Barbosa shoots his FTs but hes pretty good shooter so w.e lol

TheKing23
11-26-2009, 09:43 PM
Cavs:

Best form - Mo Williams
Worst form - Shaq

djeller1139
11-26-2009, 09:45 PM
I cringe when Biedrins has to shoot FT's...

Mavrix
11-26-2009, 09:45 PM
Shawn Marion and Shaq.

Raps18-19 Champ
11-26-2009, 09:49 PM
Ben Wallace is the worse FT shooter in history.

It's because his wrist is inconsistent.

Calderon is one of the best and has a soft, smooth free throw.

sixer04fan
11-26-2009, 09:51 PM
the physics of the free throw shot form? must be pretty bored, eh?

Mavrix
11-26-2009, 10:10 PM
Best: Nash, Dirk, Ray Allen

Kakaroach
11-26-2009, 10:15 PM
Chuck Hayes and his "pump-fake" at the line has to be worst in the league.

On the Jazz the best is Kyle Korver or Okur. Worst is prolly Big Fez.

Wilson
11-26-2009, 10:15 PM
the physics of the free throw shot form? must be pretty bored, eh?

I actually found that pretty interesting :p

Derek Fisher usually gets a good arc on his free throws. Kobe obviously has good form.

sofargone
11-26-2009, 10:41 PM
raps
best: jose
worst: i dont like bargz stance

Iodine
11-26-2009, 10:46 PM
I love watching dirks form.

I hate watching theo ratlif

DenButsu
11-26-2009, 10:47 PM
"pump-fake" at the line

:laugh2:

GspLAL
11-26-2009, 10:50 PM
Lakers

Best: Kobe
Worst: Mbenga

ko8e24
11-26-2009, 10:57 PM
Reggie Miller

DenButsu
11-26-2009, 11:03 PM
Since most great FT shooters are nearly always guards, and most horrible FT shooters are bigs, another twist to this question might be: Which guards have the worst and which best have the best form?

Kyben36
11-26-2009, 11:07 PM
Best for the bulls, probably Kirk,Maybe John,

Worse, is Noahs, his shot ****ing twirls like a globe, but he shoots a solid % still

Wilson
11-26-2009, 11:11 PM
Since most great FT shooters are nearly always guards, and most horrible FT shooters are bigs, another twist to this question might be: Which guards have the worst and which best have the best form?

The Lakers' trio of big men are all pretty solid FT shooters, which is great for us. Lamar Odom is a career 70% FT shooter and Pau Gasol 74%. Andrew Bynum's career percentage at the line is 68%, although he was 70% last season and 77% early this season.

This gives us a little extra flexibility in close games, we don't really need to worry about free throw shooting down the stretch.

jetsfan28
11-26-2009, 11:16 PM
Billups has a beautiful one. The 3 Hz is basically a description of his free throw, he gets a perfect amount of spin on it.

I remember Camby was AWFUL as a Knick. Ball over his head, and sometimes it seemed to literally be behind his head, and it would look like he was just soccer throwing it at the hoop, always a knuckle ball too. Surprisingly, he got a decent amount in, but his form was terrible.

Jaji
11-27-2009, 12:10 AM
Anthony Mason's free throw shooting form was pretty nasty.

LOL! That's the first guy who popped into my mind. Cartwright was awkward too.

Kakaroach
11-27-2009, 12:53 AM
:laugh2: Haha, thats exactly what he does.



Since most great FT shooters are nearly always guards, and most horrible FT shooters are bigs, another twist to this question might be: Which guards have the worst and which best have the best form? Brewer has an ugly shot from the Jazz.

arkanian215
11-27-2009, 12:56 AM
well josh boone has decent form. better than some guys. but he airballs maybe 1/20 shots. :facepalm:

MTar786
11-27-2009, 02:18 AM
i love kobe's form at the line.. there may be better but kobes looks the best to me

Raph12
11-27-2009, 02:55 AM
Best: JJ Redick
Worst: Shawn Marion

DerekRE_3
11-27-2009, 04:15 AM
Chuck Hayes hands down.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
11-27-2009, 06:31 AM
Lakers

Best - Machine/Kobe

worst - Ron/Lamar

bctgg27
11-27-2009, 09:28 AM
The worst for the Nets is Josh Boone...

bigsams50
11-27-2009, 09:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLx-Ei2Pk_Y

CHuck hayes is horrible hahahahahaha

HouRealCoach
11-27-2009, 12:07 PM
Idc if its just your team or not but everyone should say Chuck Hayes....

WhatdoYouthink?
11-27-2009, 12:22 PM
Knicks:

Worst = Eddy Curry

Best = Danilo Gallinari

Double_R
11-27-2009, 01:32 PM
Rajon Rondo is shooting 33% this year and a career 62%, that is beyond awful for a 6 foot guy.

Ray Allen has the prettiest shot

Kevin Martin is also an amazing free throw guy

Deezy Dee 24.
11-27-2009, 01:40 PM
Chuck Hayes

GodsSon
11-27-2009, 01:44 PM
Chuck Hayes, Anthony Mason, Boozer, Shaq, Reggie Evans...all pretty terrible

Faneik
11-27-2009, 07:02 PM
Since most great FT shooters are nearly always guards, and most horrible FT shooters are bigs, another twist to this question might be: Which guards have the worst and which best have the best form?

Celtics
Worst: Rondo
Best: House

Lakersfan2483
11-27-2009, 07:09 PM
The worst form in the league is Chuck Hayes, hands down....

Mr Grim
11-27-2009, 08:11 PM
I think we all know Chris Dudley had the best form. Ever.

junion
11-27-2009, 08:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7P6eil2yds&NR=1
if you read allen iverson's juicy lips, you can see he says 'travelling'

also in the second part of the video, chuck hayes' free throw looks like a baby learning how to walk.

sofargone
11-27-2009, 08:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7P6eil2yds&NR=1
if you read allen iverson's juicy lips, you can see he says 'travelling'

also in the second part of the video, chuck hayes' free throw looks like a baby learning how to walk.

LMAO how can he possibly be that bad

PistolPete44
11-27-2009, 09:01 PM
Nets
best: CDR
worst: josh boone... im starting to think just hitting the rim is good enough for him

astrosmaniac
11-27-2009, 09:15 PM
:laugh2:

honestly thats what it looks like, sad to say. its weird cause he didnt have that form at kentucky, it changed when he got to the pros

astrosmaniac
11-27-2009, 09:20 PM
Since most great FT shooters are nearly always guards, and most horrible FT shooters are bigs, another twist to this question might be: Which guards have the worst and which best have the best form?

yao is easily the best big FT shooter in the league

effen5
11-27-2009, 10:10 PM
Steve Kerr
Mark Price
Ray Allen
Chauncy Billups
Jose Calderon
Reggie Miller

I think those would be the best

Worst

Tyson Chandler
Chuck Hayes
Ben Wallace
Dennis Rodman
Shaq

Thats just from the top of my head

12GAGE
11-27-2009, 11:02 PM
Best (OF ALL TIME):
Jackie Moon

but seriously i wish there was one guy in the NBA that actually did a granny shot. I mean i would but i suck at basketball