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JordansBulls
11-22-2009, 03:26 AM
Who would you consider to be the 2nd greatest player in each franchise's history?

Most can tell you who the greatest is in a franchise's history, but who is the 2nd greatest in a franchise's history?



Boston
Toronto
Philadelphia
New York
New Jersey

Milwaukee
Cleveland
Chicago
Indiana
Detroit

Atlanta
Orlando
Miami
Washington
Charlotte


Denver
Portland
Oklahoma City
Utah
Minnesota

Phoenix
LA Lakers
Sacramento
LA Clippers
Golden State

Dallas
Houston
San Antonio
New Orleans
Memphis

asandhu23
11-22-2009, 03:32 AM
Warriors - Rick Barry
Sixers- Julius Erving

Kyben36
11-22-2009, 03:41 AM
Bulls- Scotie Pippen, right behind Ben Gordon. LOL

nickster16301
11-22-2009, 03:49 AM
utah...john stockton

abe_froman
11-22-2009, 03:54 AM
Boston-bird
Toronto-carter
Philadelphia-dr.j
New York-reed
New Jersey-kidd

Milwaukee-moncrief or allen
Cleveland-price
Chicago-pippen
Indiana-mel daniels
Detroit-lainer or joe...hmm hard one

Atlanta-wilkins
Orlando-dwight
Miami-zo
Washington-bellamy
Charlotte-wallace


Denver-thompson or issel
Portland-walton
Oklahoma City-dj
Utah-stockton
Minnesota-

Phoenix-barkley
LA Lakers-kaj
Sacramento-archibald
LA Clippers-brand?
Golden State-barry

Dallas -mark aguirre
Houston-moses
San Antonio-robinson
New Orleans-zo
Memphis-gay?

DerekRE_3
11-22-2009, 05:28 AM
I can't tell you who the 2nd greatest King ever was...but the 109th greatest Kings player had to be Olden Polynice.

VIP1349
11-22-2009, 06:00 AM
As for the Nuggets, since I am going to say that Alex English thus far is the best, granted the torch will be passed to Carmelo Anthony in a few years, but right now English is #1, Melo' #2.

asmarks18
11-22-2009, 06:38 AM
Mavs- Mark Aguirre. Could make a case for Michael Finley but he is the enemy now so I wont.

lavilevi23
11-22-2009, 08:10 AM
Heat- Zo

Raps18-19 Champ
11-22-2009, 11:29 AM
Who would you consider to be the 2nd greatest player in each franchise's history?

Most can tell you who the greatest is in a franchise's history, but who is the 2nd greatest in a franchise's history?



Boston
Toronto
Philadelphia
New York
New Jersey

Milwaukee
Cleveland
Chicago
Indiana
Detroit

Atlanta
Orlando
Miami
Washington
Charlotte


Denver
Portland
Oklahoma City
Utah
Minnesota

Phoenix
LA Lakers
Sacramento
LA Clippers
Golden State

Dallas
Houston
San Antonio
New Orleans
Memphis

Boston-Larry Bird's sidekick
Toronto-Carter
Philadelphia-Erving/Malone(Depending who you think is first)
New York-?
New Jersey-?

Milwaukee-Payton
Cleveland-Danny Ferry
Chicago-Scottie Pippen
Indiana-?
Detroit-Dumars/Billups(With Isiah being first)

Atlanta-?
Orlando-?
Miami-Mourning
Washington-?
Charlotte-Wallace


Denver-?
Portland-?
Oklahoma City-Shawn Kemp
Utah-Malone/Stockton(Depending who you think is first)
Minnesota-?

Phoenix-?
LA Lakers-Kareem/Magic(Depending who you think is first)
Sacramento -?
LA Clippers-?
Golden State-?

Dallas -?
Houston-?
San Antonio-David Robinson
New Orleans-?
Memphis-OJ Mayo

Hawkeye15
11-22-2009, 01:47 PM
Boston- Bill Russell
Toronto- Vince Carter
Philadelphia- Moses Malone
New York- Bernard Kinig
New Jersey- Jason Kidd

Milwaukee- Pierce
Cleveland- Mark Price
Chicago- Scottie Pippen
Indiana- Mark Jackson
Detroit- Grant Hill

Atlanta- Dominique Wilkins
Orlando- Penny Hardaway
Miami- Alonzo Mourning
Washington- Earl Monroe
Charlotte- Emaka Okafor


Denver- Carmelo Anthony
Portland- Clyde Drexler
Oklahoma City- Ray Allen
Utah- Karl Malone
Minnesota- Doug West

Phoenix- Steve Nash
LA Lakers- Shaquille Oneal
Sacramento- Chris Webber
LA Clippers- Adrian Dantley
Golden State- Chris Mullin

Dallas- Rolando Blackman
Houston- Calvin Murphy
San Antonio- David Robinson
New Orleans- Jamal Mashburn
Memphis- Shareef Abdul Rahim

zambo4president
11-22-2009, 01:52 PM
Scottie for the Bulls no doubt.

Hawkeye15
11-22-2009, 01:53 PM
I am sure I may have missed a call here or there, did it off the top of my head in 5 minutes

bigsams50
11-22-2009, 02:22 PM
Boston Larry Bird
Toronto Vince Carter
Philadelphia Julius Erving
New York
New Jersey Jason Kidd

Milwaukee
Cleveland Mark Price
Chicago Scottie Pippen
Indiana
Detroit Chauncey Billups

Atlanta
Orlando Dwight Howard
Miami Alonzo Mourning
Washington
Charlotte Emeka Okafor


Denver Carmelo Anthony
Portland Clyde Drexler
Oklahoma City Shawn Kemp
Utah John Stockton
Minnesota

Phoenix Nash? Barkley?
LA Lakers Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Sacramento Chris Webber
LA Clippers
Golden State Rick Barry

Dallas
Houston
San Antonio David Robinson
New Orleans Larry Johnson
Memphis Shareef Abdur-Rahim

Mavrix
11-22-2009, 02:29 PM
Dallas - either Steve Nash or Jason Kidd

jay87shot
11-22-2009, 02:31 PM
Milwaukee 2nd would be Oscar Robertson who is Peirce and Gary Payton played like 30 games in Milwaukee, come on.

Hawkeye15
11-22-2009, 02:38 PM
Milwaukee 2nd would be Oscar Robertson who is Peirce and Gary Payton played like 30 games in Milwaukee, come on.

Ricky Pierce. And thinking back, I actually would have gone with Lanier. Oscar is their best player ever.

D-Will4Prez
11-22-2009, 02:56 PM
Utah - Karl Malone
Miami - Alonzo Mourning
San Antonio - Tim Duncan
Toronto - Chris Bosh
Boston - KG
Phoenix - Steve Nash

Just a few off the top of my head

Wilson
11-22-2009, 03:06 PM
Utah - Karl Malone
Miami - Alonzo Mourning
San Antonio - Tim Duncan
Toronto - Chris Bosh
Boston - KG
Phoenix - Steve Nash

Just a few off the top of my head

I think right now Tim Duncan is the best ever for the Spurs.

KG is great, but he's not the second best ever for the Celtics, his best years were in Minnesota. While he's been in Boston, he's not been better than Larry Bird or Bill Russell in my opinion.

It's tough for the Lakers. I would say the top two for us are Jerry West and Magic Johnson, in any order.

Trouble87
11-22-2009, 03:08 PM
Boston- John Havlicek
Toronto- Chris Bosh
Philadelphia- Charles Barkley
New York- Willis Reed
New Jersey- Jason Kidd

Milwaukee- Sidney Moncrief or Ray Allen
Cleveland- Austin Carr
Chicago- Scottie Pippen
Indiana- Jermaine O'Neal
Detroit- Chauncey Billups

Atlanta- Joe Johnson or Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Orlando- Penny Hardaway
Miami- Alonzo Mourning
Washington- Wes Unseld
Charlotte- (not sure if we're talking about the hornets or bobcats)


Denver- Carmelo Anthony (no way he can be considered better than Alex English yet)
Portland- Rasheed Wallace
Oklahoma City- Jeff Green?
Utah- John Stockton
Minnesota- Isiah Rider (he was amazing)

Phoenix- Steve Nash
LA Lakers- (this a hard one...) Magic Johnson (Kareem, Magic, then Kobe)
Sacramento- Vlade Divac (I dont know too many Kings players)
LA Clippers- Bill Walton
Golden State- Chris Mullen

Dallas- Steve Nash
Houston- Yao Ming or Clyde Drexler
San Antonio- Tim Duncun
New Orleans- Zo
Memphis- Mike Bibby

D-Will4Prez
11-22-2009, 03:12 PM
I think right now Tim Duncan is the best ever for the Spurs.

KG is great, but he's not the second best ever for the Celtics, his best years were in Minnesota. While he's been in Boston, he's not been better than Larry Bird or Bill Russell in my opinion.

It's tough for the Lakers. I would say the top two for us are Jerry West and Magic Johnson, in any order.
Ah, Bill Russell I had forgotten about him...He is #2 fo sho. And It's pretty close between oscar and TD IMO.

Raps18-19 Champ
11-22-2009, 03:12 PM
Boston-Larry Bird
Toronto-Carter
Philadelphia-Erving/Malone(Depending who you think is first)
New York-?
New Jersey-?

Milwaukee-Payton
Cleveland-Danny Ferry
Chicago-Scottie Pippen
Indiana-?
Detroit-Dumars/Billups(With Isiah being first)

Atlanta-?
Orlando-?
Miami-Mourning
Washington-?
Charlotte-Wallace


Denver-Carmelo
Portland-?
Oklahoma City-Shawn Kemp
Utah-Malone/Stockton(Depending who you think is first)
Minnesota-?

Phoenix-Barkley
LA Lakers-Kareem/Magic(Depending who you think is first)
Sacramento -?
LA Clippers-?
Golden State-?

Dallas -?
Houston-?
San Antonio-David Robinson
New Orleans-?
Memphis-OJ Mayo

SpeeMN
11-22-2009, 03:14 PM
minnesota - gugliota, al jefferson, marbury .... pick your poison

JasonJohnHorn
11-22-2009, 03:18 PM
I don't think the number one player is always easy to pick. Boston for example: Bird or Russell? Cousy and Havelichek?

Boston: Russell then Bird
Toronto: Bosh then Carter
Philadelphia: Tough one, Dr. J? Barkley? Iverson? Hmm...
New York: Willis Reed #1? Ewing two?
New Jersey: Dr. J (from ABA) as #1? Or Kidd? Or Coleman?

Milwaukee: Kareem or The Big O?
Cleveland: LBJ is #1, but #2? Brad Daughtery? Mark Price?
Chicago: Jordan then Pippen.
Indiana: Miller and Smits? Have to wait to see how long Granger stays and how well he plays.
Detroit: Thomas? Dumars? Grant Hill? Big Ben? Chauncy? Rodman?

Atlanta: Domique Wilkens? Kevin Willis? Bob Petit?
Orlando: Shaq and Penny? Howard?
Miami: Wade? Morning?
Washington: Wes Unseld? Jordan (even though he only played two year).
Charlotte: Um....Okafor? And Geral Wallace? Young team though, not much hstory.


Denver: Carmelo? Dikembe?
Portland: Drexler? Rasheed? Bill Walton?
Oklahoma City: Durant and Green?
Seattle: Payton and Kemp? They won a title in 79, but it was a team effort, not big name player. Kinda like the Pistons a couple years ago.
Utah: Stockton #1, Malone #2 Pistol Pete.
Minnesota: KG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not much to pick from after that.

Phoenix: Tough call. Barkely? Tom Chambers? Amare? Nash?
LA Lakers: WIlt? West? Baylor? Mikan? Shaq? Magic? Worhty? Kareem? Kobe? Gasol?
Sacramento: Webber and Biby are my two fans, but i'm not a big Kings fan.
LA Clippers: Danny Manning is #1? And... Ron Harper? Elton Brand? Nobody is every there long so I don't usually consider players "Clippers".
Golden State: Wilt and then.. Mullen? Hardaway? Richmond? Webber?

Dallas: Dirk and then... I dunno... their 80's squad was deep, D Harper, Fat Lever, and the 90's had Masburn and Kidd? Tough call.
Houston: Hakeem is number 1! Two? Drexler? Thrope? Yao?
San Antonio: Duncan then Robinson, then the Ice Man.
New Orleans: Larry Johnson, Alonzo Mourning, Chris Paul, David West? I like Dell Curry and Kendal Gill too and Baron Davis played some great ball there/
Memphis: Pau Gasol then Sharif Abdul Rahim. We have to see about all those young guys in there right now.
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GeriatricMoyer
11-22-2009, 03:43 PM
Boston-Larry Bird
Toronto-Carter
Philadelphia-Erving/Malone(Depending who you think is first)
New York-?
New Jersey-?

Milwaukee-Payton
Cleveland-Danny Ferry
Chicago-Scottie Pippen
Indiana-?
Detroit-Dumars/Billups(With Isiah being first)

Atlanta-?
Orlando-?
Miami-Mourning
Washington-?
Charlotte-Wallace


Denver-Carmelo
Portland-?
Oklahoma City-Shawn Kemp
Utah-Malone/Stockton(Depending who you think is first)
Minnesota-?

Phoenix-Barkley
LA Lakers-Kareem/Magic(Depending who you think is first)
Sacramento -?
LA Clippers-?
Golden State-?

Dallas -?
Houston-?
San Antonio-David Robinson
New Orleans-?
Memphis-OJ Mayo



There's the most dominant player of all time, WILT CHAMBERLAIN, who would have his way with either of those guys. And that's not a knock on Moses or Julius.

ko8e24
11-22-2009, 03:49 PM
grizzlies

greatest player-darko milicic

2nd greatest player-allen iverson

Toenail Clipper
11-22-2009, 03:51 PM
Boston-Larry Bird
Toronto-Carter
Philadelphia-Erving/Malone(Depending who you think is first)
New York-?
New Jersey-?

Milwaukee-Payton
Cleveland-Danny Ferry
Chicago-Scottie Pippen
Indiana-?
Detroit-Dumars/Billups(With Isiah being first)

Atlanta-?
Orlando-?
Miami-Mourning
Washington-?
Charlotte-Wallace


Denver-Carmelo
Portland-?
Oklahoma City-Shawn Kemp
Utah-Malone/Stockton(Depending who you think is first)
Minnesota-?

Phoenix-Barkley
LA Lakers-Kareem/Magic(Depending who you think is first)
Sacramento -?
LA Clippers-?
Golden State-?

Dallas -?
Houston-?
San Antonio-David Robinson
New Orleans-?
Memphis-OJ Mayo

That's what I'm talking about! :cool:

abe_froman
11-22-2009, 03:54 PM
Ricky Pierce. And thinking back, I actually would have gone with Lanier. Oscar is their best player ever.

serious? better than young kareem??:confused:

nickster16301
11-22-2009, 04:38 PM
kings second greatest is mitch richmond...dont know if i spelled his name right

mrblisterdundee
11-22-2009, 05:20 PM
Portland - Brandon Roy

Toenail Clipper
11-22-2009, 05:25 PM
Is Elton Brand the greatest Clipper to play for the team?

abe_froman
11-22-2009, 06:14 PM
Is Elton Brand the greatest Clipper to play for the team?

no.

JordansBulls
11-22-2009, 06:22 PM
Utah - Karl Malone
Miami - Alonzo Mourning
San Antonio - Tim Duncan
Toronto - Chris Bosh
Boston - KG
Phoenix - Steve Nash

Just a few off the top of my head

Those are the 2nd best players for their franchise?

How is Malone the 2nd best for the Jazz?

Hawkeye15
11-22-2009, 06:54 PM
serious? better than young kareem??:confused:

I personally think so. Oscar averaged a freakin triple double. But trust me, I am not gonna argue against Kareem. While I think Kareem was slightly overrated career wise, he was a unreal player. But anyone who plays for 40 years will build up some all time stats.

abe_froman
11-22-2009, 07:11 PM
I personally think so. Oscar averaged a freakin triple double. But trust me, I am not gonna argue against Kareem. While I think Kareem was slightly overrated career wise, he was a unreal player. But anyone who plays for 40 years will build up some all time stats.

yes,but oscar did that on the kings(royals),not the bucks.he was older/a ring chaser,but still good but not that guy ,by the time he went to mil.

while kareem on bucks was a 30/15 player,mvp

Hawkeye15
11-22-2009, 07:16 PM
yes,but oscar did that on the kings(royals),not the bucks.he was older/ring chaser,but still good by the time he went to mil.

while kareem on bucks was a 30/15 player,mvp

this is true. You are right. Oscar was in his last few years I think at that time. Just thought of the name Oscar without actually putting into perspective where he was at career wise then.

Wilson
11-22-2009, 07:20 PM
Those are the 2nd best players for their franchise?

How is Malone the 2nd best for the Jazz?

He might be their best ever, but you can definately make the case for John Stockton as well. It's pretty hard to say one or the other is better really, they complimented each other so well.

eman
11-22-2009, 07:47 PM
The crazy thing is who is first on the Lakers? You have Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlin, Shaquille O'Neal, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Magic Johnson,Elgin Baylor and Kobe Bryant(the only player not on the 50 greatest players of all time list).

It is sacrilege that you are considering AI or Charles Barkley over Dr. J. Julius Erving changed the way the game was played and viewed. I remember one of the plays for the 76'ers, which they ran repeately, was to have all the players clear out to one side and let Dr. J go one on one. Although Connie Hawkins invented playing above the rim, Dr. J perfected it.

Oh and for all those people wondering where they play jazz music in Utah, they don't. The Jazz were first in New Orleans and happened to have a player named Pistol Pete Maravich. That is why Stockton and Malone are fighting it out for number 2.

One last thing, can they retire Bill Russel's number first before we even think about retiring MJ's. Don't get me wrong I was a big fan of "his airness" but respect has to be given out in order.