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ThuglifeJ
11-19-2009, 11:15 PM
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/john_schuhmann/11/19/numbersgame.battier/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1


Conclusion: Believe the hype
To answer your question, Jon: Yes, there is statistical evidence that Battier and Bowen are/were very good one-on-one defensive players. Their reputations are well deserved. Artest is also a good defender, but isn't the one-on-one stopper that the other two are. In fact, Bryant may be better in that regard (at least when he's focused on that end of the floor).
If you look back at the second table above, you'll see some teams just have a guy's number. The Lakers have defended James the best, the Spurs have defended Wade the best, and the Rockets have defended Anthony the best. The Bulls, Hawks and Rockets have all defended Bryant well, too, but who's done it the best?



The missing team
The New Jersey Nets, of course.
That's all kinds of fascinating, because from the 2006-07 season to the 2008-09 season, the Nets ranked 15th, 22nd and 23rd in defensive efficiency, respectively. The back-to-back Finals teams earlier this decade were great defensively, but the Nets fell off after the departures of Kenyon Martin and Kerry Kittles.
The Lakers won five of the six games the two teams played in the last three years, but in none of the six did Bryant shoot better than 33 percent from the field.
Vince Carter was the primary defender on Bryant in those games (something to keep in mind when the Magic and Lakers meet again), but fellow ex-Nets Richard Jefferson, Jason Kidd and Antoine Wright also took their turns. As a team, the Nets did a great job of keeping Bryant out of the paint and forcing him to shoot jumpers. And when he did, they borrowed a page from Battier's book and got a hand in his face almost every time.



If you go back even further, you'll find that, in his last 11 games against the Nets, Bryant has failed to shoot better 39 percent from the field. He's shooting just 32.0 percent in that stretch of games (the Lakers won six of the 11 games), which began after Bryant and the Lakers beat the Nets in the 2002 Finals.
Kobe Bryant vs. Nets, Last 11 Games
Date Res. FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA FTM FTA PTS
12/19/2002 L 8 29 0.276 0 1 5 5 21
1/24/2003 L 4 14 0.286 1 2 2 3 11
2/29/2004 W 4 12 0.333 2 6 1 2 11
11/27/2005 L 14 36 0.389 4 12 14 16 46
3/17/2006 L 9 24 0.375 2 8 4 4 24
11/26/2006 W 8 24 0.333 1 4 2 4 19
12/22/2006 W 4 13 0.308 2 5 11 12 21
11/25/2007 L 7 21 0.333 2 5 15 16 31
2/5/2008 W 3 13 0.231 0 2 0 0 6
11/25/2008 W 5 17 0.294 0 2 2 2 12
3/27/2009 W 5 19 0.263 3 6 1 1 14
TOTALS 6-5 6.5 20.2 0.320 1.5 4.8 5.2 5.9 19.6




This just makes me really hoping for an Orlando Magic vs LAL rematch in the finals.

SaimoNETS
11-19-2009, 11:17 PM
I can tell you're a very big VC fan.

jetsfan28
11-19-2009, 11:20 PM
It wasn't all Vince. Kidd surprisingly enough used to do a fantastic job on him, and Jefferson was pretty good as well.

xHTOWN713x
11-19-2009, 11:22 PM
Yeah, well Mr. Bryant admitted Battier is the best "Kobe stopper"

ThuglifeJ
11-19-2009, 11:36 PM
I can tell you're a very big VC fan.

not a huge fan, just read this article posted today, and was surprised.

Chronz
11-19-2009, 11:55 PM
This is something JB (And hardcore Vince fans) have said for years now, Vince D's Kobe up better than Kidd did back in the day.

astrosmaniac
11-20-2009, 12:04 AM
the rockets one of the top 4 teams on all 4 guys, just shows how great of a defensive team they have been over the past couple of years, and battier especially

skratcher
11-20-2009, 05:01 AM
I honestly think that the only player who can stop Kobe is..

Kobe himself.

ldc62
11-20-2009, 05:19 AM
No one can stop Kobe, but I would say Battier is probably the best at it. Didn't Kobe shoot 5/20 just recently in a loss against the Rockets

DenButsu
11-20-2009, 09:46 AM
I honestly think that the only player who can stop Kobe is..

Kobe himself.

I think generally it takes a total team effort, with the goal not of stopping him but of depriving him of one or two dimensions of his game (penetration, playmaking, etc.) in order to limit his ability to inflict major damage. Denver did a good job of this in their last meeting, and they threw probably 5 different primary defenders on him.

Tmac,lt,berkman
11-20-2009, 10:26 AM
No one can stop Kobe, but I would say Battier is probably the best at it. Didn't Kobe shoot 5/20 just recently in a loss against the Rockets

yeah but actually trevor ariza played better d against him

theuuord
11-20-2009, 12:51 PM
Can't wait for that Lakers-Nets finals!

:p

fredv
11-20-2009, 01:05 PM
yeah but actually trevor ariza played better d against him

actually it was battier guarding him during the game...

stensley
11-20-2009, 01:27 PM
theres not one player in the NBA that can stop Kobe. Teams that have been successful, like the Rockets, have a great one on one defender and play great help defense, but to say one player can stop Kobe, no way

RaiderDawg
11-20-2009, 01:35 PM
Can't wait for that Lakers-Nets finals!

:p

On your shadow, falling to me

Chronz
11-20-2009, 02:01 PM
actually it was battier guarding him during the game...

Hes saying Ariza guarded him better when they were matched up

King P
11-20-2009, 11:44 PM
VC always seems to outplay Kobe everytime they meet up. That might be something to remember if there is a Lakers-Magic Finals rematch.

LA_Raiders
11-21-2009, 05:21 PM
ok...

madiaz3
11-21-2009, 05:28 PM
Carter a defensive stopper? Really?

superkegger
11-25-2009, 08:42 PM
Kobe vs. Battier (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=bryanko01&p2=battish01)

Kobe vs. Bowen (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=bryanko01&p2=bowenbr01)

Kobe vs the original Kobe stopper Ruben Patterson (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=bryanko01&p2=patteru01)

Kobe vs. Vince (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=bryanko01&p2=cartevi01)

Kobe vs. Wade (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=wadedw01&p2=bryanko01)

Kobe vs. Ray Allen (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=bryanko01&p2=allenra02) (sidenote: Ray Allen is one of those guys who you really have to say his full name, calling him just Ray or just Allen, just doesn't sound right.)

And lastly, just to rile people up:

Kobe vs Jordan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=bryanko01)

ko8e24
11-25-2009, 10:02 PM
Kobe vs Smush

Ray_R
11-25-2009, 10:13 PM
Yeah, well Mr. Bryant admitted Battier is the best "Kobe stopper"

the best Kobe stopper is obviously a bullet.... but if the man admits its Battier then let it be so

ChiSox219
11-25-2009, 10:37 PM
Watch out for Thabo Sefolosha

Kobe vs Thabo
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=bryanko01&p2=sefolth01

.207 from 3pt, just 7.1 fta

dodie53
11-25-2009, 11:09 PM
kobe vs mike james

HoopsDrive
11-26-2009, 12:59 AM
kobe vs mike james

I'll beat that:

Kobe vs Calderon

MTar786
11-26-2009, 02:21 AM
honestly.. no one can contain him one on one. his weakness is a great team defense..

GREATNESS ONE
11-26-2009, 02:39 AM
There is a Kobe Stopper and always has been..... It's Kobe.

mrblisterdundee
11-26-2009, 03:01 AM
The best "Kobe Stopper" is Shane Battier. The second best plays with Kobe Bryant.