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AlexTmz2
11-11-2009, 07:00 PM
Which player in your opinion has been putting up great #'s and has helped their team stay solid?

I'd have to say Steve Nash, he's off to a great start and so are the Phoneix Suns. I had many doubt on the Suns, but it seem that their pulling through.

J$mo0th_3o5
11-11-2009, 07:06 PM
I'd say Nash.

thrilla11
11-11-2009, 07:07 PM
Carmelo Anthony
with Stevie Nash second
he dropped 20 and 21 the other night
thats crazy

TheHoopsProphet
11-11-2009, 07:10 PM
yea I agree. If Nash can get this team to win +50 games when they really have no business winning 40, he should finish no less than top 3 MVP. Kobe has done well, giving the Lakers a hot start in spite of injuries to his two budding all-star big men, but his team is far more talented, and Nash has simply been as good as he ever was.

As of now:

1) Steve Nash
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Chris Bosh
5) Carmelo Anthony

But its a young season, and I'm quite sure that top 5 will look very different by the end of the season.

SteveNash
11-11-2009, 07:10 PM
Wade

kozelkid
11-11-2009, 07:13 PM
Paul, Nash, Melo, Kobe, Wade, dirk are all options. Will be clearer a month from now.

mjt20mik
11-11-2009, 07:14 PM
Nash
Wade
Kobe
Melo

Master Mind
11-11-2009, 07:14 PM
Wade
Bosh
Anthony
Nash
Bryant
Nowitzki

No particular order

kozelkid
11-11-2009, 07:18 PM
People don't seem to realize that Paul is averaging over 26ppg right now. As for Bosh I'm very skeptical with him cause he's done the same thing last year and then cooled off after his hot start. His team also isn't particularly good. Then again, neither are the Hornets atm.

Shady66
11-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Nash, Kobe, Dirk.

My top 3

Gators123
11-11-2009, 07:23 PM
People don't seem to realize that Paul is averaging over 26ppg right now. As for Bosh I'm very skeptical with him cause he's done the same thing last year and then cooled off after his hot start. His team also isn't particularly good. Then again, neither are the Hornets atm.

I actually just looked up Paul's stats. Very impressive, not only 26 ppg but also 10 apg .

Kakaroach
11-11-2009, 07:25 PM
After 7 games I'd have to say Bosh, Nash, or Paul would get the nod in my opinion. Homer pick: D. Will

Toenail Clipper
11-11-2009, 07:25 PM
Paul Paul Paul Paul Paul! Too bad his team sucks.

Chronz
11-11-2009, 07:26 PM
Wade, the Heat are one of the best defensive teams in the league in the early going and Wade has been key, along with improved efforts from Beasley and a healthier Jermaine. Is it sustainable? **** no, but right now he deserves credit for what hes done.

Vinny642
11-11-2009, 07:30 PM
Paul Paul Paul Paul Paul! Too bad his team sucks.

.... this coming from a Clippers fan!
Haha its funny how you can say we suck but you guys let Devin Brown score 25!

NyCsPoRtS1
11-11-2009, 07:31 PM
its wades turn yall know you gotta do it for 2 yrs right guys??

_KB24_
11-11-2009, 07:32 PM
Kobe............


Melo
Wade
Nash

ko8e24
11-11-2009, 07:36 PM
It is a 4-man race between Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Steve Nash and Carmelo Anthony.

No one guy has distanced himself from the other 3 because the other 3 have been that spectacular as well and have started their respective teams off on the path of elitism.

ko8e24
11-11-2009, 07:40 PM
yea I agree. If Nash can get this team to win +50 games when they really have no business winning 40, he should finish no less than top 3 MVP. Kobe has done well, giving the Lakers a hot start in spite of injuries to his two budding all-star big men, but his team is far more talented, and Nash has simply been as good as he ever was.

As of now:

1) Steve Nash
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Chris Bosh
5) Carmelo Anthony

But its a young season, and I'm quite sure that top 5 will look very different by the end of the season.


stupid reason :pity:

if ur dominating the way Kobe has been, and ur on an elite team with other "talented" guys, that should not hurt u in any way. AND I MEAN DOMINATING! No one has an answer for him on the post.



and oh ya, aint Amare, Grant Hill, Jason Richardson, and now an uprising star in Frye talented enuf for Nash to play wid?? It's the system, and the guys who are able to finish from 3-pt range and around the basket that are making him look good.

U can't dock either one of them for that, so relax

bigsams50
11-11-2009, 07:42 PM
Kobe right now, dudes playin out of his mind

-Kobe24-TJ19-
11-11-2009, 07:44 PM
People don't seem to realize that Paul is averaging over 26ppg right now. As for Bosh I'm very skeptical with him cause he's done the same thing last year and then cooled off after his hot start. His team also isn't particularly good. Then again, neither are the Hornets atm.


It doesn't matter how much he averages, kobe averaged 35 PPG throughout the season and didn't get jack.

CP3 has no chance of winning this when his teammates doesn't show up

Bishnoff
11-11-2009, 07:51 PM
Kobe, Nash, & Melo.

BluejaysFan08
11-11-2009, 08:02 PM
Bosh or Wade.

kozelkid
11-11-2009, 08:07 PM
I actually just looked up Paul's stats. Very impressive, not only 26 ppg but also 10 apg .

Well he's doing that for his third year in a row so it's kind of a given. :)

More-Than-Most
11-11-2009, 08:08 PM
Its Nash... and its by a land slide... The reason I say that is because he is playing out of his mind when everyone thought he would decline... He is carrying his team to the best record in the league right now while beating teams like Miami and Boston. No one expected the suns to start off or look the good except Nash and Amare. Like someone else posted if they win 50 plus then he should be the mvp because with this teams makeup and the players that keep coming and going they should be a 40 win team. Everyone in the league should want to play for this guy because he makes everyone that much better.

Vinny642
11-11-2009, 08:10 PM
Well he's doing that for his third year in a row so it's kind of a given. :)

Close he never averaged 26, for the last three years he average 20, 23, 26. He is truly amazing.

Gators123
11-11-2009, 08:13 PM
Well he's doing that for his third year in a row so it's kind of a given. :)

lol true but I figured it would be less then 10 apg if he was taking more shots. But after looking at his stats again he is shooting 63% compared to his career 47%.

Vinny642
11-11-2009, 08:16 PM
lol true but I figured it would be less then 10 apg if he was taking more shots. But after looking at his stats again he is shooting 63% compared to his career 47%.

His overall shooting got alot better

Testaverde16
11-11-2009, 08:17 PM
Melo, Nash, Kobe

mikantsass
11-11-2009, 08:23 PM
Week 2 and we have MVP talks? OK then....

1. Nash
2. Dirk
3. Bosh
4. Wade
5. Anthony

And I'll give you one further.... Rookie of the year is Tyreke Evans

AlexTmz2
11-11-2009, 08:27 PM
People don't seem to realize that Paul is averaging over 26ppg right now. As for Bosh I'm very skeptical with him cause he's done the same thing last year and then cooled off after his hot start. His team also isn't particularly good. Then again, neither are the Hornets atm.

True, but I've seen nash put up some great #'s. Im talking about 20 20 guy. And not just that, he's leading his team to a good run.

Bruno
11-11-2009, 08:50 PM
Nash,Wade,Kobe,Melo, in no particular order.

daleja424
11-11-2009, 08:53 PM
def wade...last year wade was the best statistical player in the league and people said he needed to win games to get the nod. Now the HEAT are 6-1 and he is still beasting....HAS to be Wade

edit: Nash is a fair choice too

Teeboy1487
11-11-2009, 08:57 PM
Nash
Wade
Kobe
Dirk
Melo

kozelkid
11-11-2009, 09:19 PM
Close he never averaged 26, for the last three years he average 20, 23, 26. He is truly amazing.

I was referencing to his assists. That's why I mentioned that he is averaging 26+ppg and not the apg.

bagwell368
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
Paul
James
Bosh
Pierce
Nash

and what are we 8% of the way through the season, how about waiting until we get to 20 games for this?

Vinny642
11-11-2009, 09:24 PM
I was referencing to his assists. That's why I mentioned that he is averaging 26+ppg and not the apg.

LOL Na i didnt want to sound like a d*** my bad man

ARMIN12NBA
11-11-2009, 09:24 PM
Week 2 and we have MVP talks? OK then....

1. Nash
2. Dirk
3. Bosh
4. Wade
5. Anthony

And I'll give you one further.... Rookie of the year is Tyreke Evans

No Kobe Bryant? He has been averaging 34 PPG on 49% shooting (6 RPG, 2.6 SPG) while carrying a Lakers team to a 6-1 record without Pau for all the games and Bynum for 2 games.

Lakersfan2483
11-11-2009, 09:29 PM
Kobe, D. Wade, S. Nash, Dirk and Melo are the front runners.

Vinny642
11-11-2009, 09:29 PM
I agree Kobe should be up there for now. Him Nash and Carmelo IMO

Lakersfan2483
11-11-2009, 09:31 PM
No Kobe Bryant? He has been averaging 34 PPG on 49% shooting (6 RPG, 2.6 SPG) while carrying a Lakers team to a 6-1 record without Pau for all the games and Bynum for 2 games.

He should be on everyone's list considering he's leading the league in scoring, is 2nd in the league in steals per game, and his team is 6-1. What's even more impressive is that Pau has not played a single game and Bynum has missed 2 games and the Lakers are still at the top and Bryant is playing unbelieveably well.

Lakersfan2483
11-11-2009, 09:32 PM
Paul
James
Bosh
Pierce
Nash

and what are we 8% of the way through the season, how about waiting until we get to 20 games for this?

Kobe, Melo and Wade should definitely be on your list.

Vinny642
11-11-2009, 09:35 PM
I dont think he is the leader but he should be tied.

i.got.the.nutz
11-11-2009, 10:20 PM
yea I agree. If Nash can get this team to win +50 games when they really have no business winning 40, he should finish no less than top 3 MVP. Kobe has done well, giving the Lakers a hot start in spite of injuries to his two budding all-star big men, but his team is far more talented, and Nash has simply been as good as he ever was.

As of now:

1) Steve Nash
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Chris Bosh
5) Carmelo Anthony

But its a young season, and I'm quite sure that top 5 will look very different by the end of the season.

Your on drugs if you think the Lakers without Bynum and Gasol are more talented than Nash's supporting class.

mrblisterdundee
11-11-2009, 10:51 PM
Steve Nash almost entirely operates the most successful team thus far. I guess Phoenix reasoned that a two-time MVP could run a team better than they could.

Toenail Clipper
11-11-2009, 11:06 PM
.... this coming from a Clippers fan!
Haha its funny how you can say we suck but you guys let Devin Brown score 25!

Hey, why are you bragging about beating the Clippers by more than 20 points? Is that an achievement? That means, your team sucks too. LOL. Both teams have the same record AND you guys got murked by the Knicks ;) I respect Paul, that's it, I'm sorry.

Vinny642
11-11-2009, 11:07 PM
Hey, why are you bragging about beating the Clippers by more than 20 points? Is that an achievement? That means, your team sucks too. LOL. Both teams have the same record AND you guys got murked by the Knicks ;) I respect Paul, that's it, I'm sorry.

Hey, Im just saying look at your team before you take a shot at mines.

Toenail Clipper
11-11-2009, 11:08 PM
Hey, Im just saying look at your team before you take a shot at mines.

I know what they are, I am fully aware they are garbage. Look at your team as well.

Vinny642
11-11-2009, 11:11 PM
We have 3 players that want to win then we have a bunch of crap. We have a coach that doesn't use his players right. Also our team is dependent on one player, named Chris Paul. I am not proud of it but that is what we are.

nipo10847
11-11-2009, 11:12 PM
yea I agree. If Nash can get this team to win +50 games when they really have no business winning 40, he should finish no less than top 3 MVP. Kobe has done well, giving the Lakers a hot start in spite of injuries to his two budding all-star big men, but his team is far more talented, and Nash has simply been as good as he ever was.

As of now:

1) Steve Nash
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Chris Bosh:facepalm:
5) Carmelo Anthony

But its a young season, and I'm quite sure that top 5 will look very different by the end of the season.

For real??? Based on what?? A great (!) 3-4 start?? And where the **** does that leave D Wade with a 6-1 start???

Lost Art
11-11-2009, 11:27 PM
Kobe

bagwell368
11-11-2009, 11:28 PM
Kobe, Melo and Wade should definitely be on your list.

Why?

Melo doesn't play D

Wade I had sixth, so OK, I'll make him 5th and dump Nash who gets cross eyed when someone says defense.

Kobe? He isn't playing his usual D so far. Distracted, old, bored? Whatever it is, he 's about 8th or 9th at this point.

nipo10847
11-11-2009, 11:30 PM
Why?

Melo doesn't play D

Wade I had sixth, so OK, I'll make him 5th and dump Nash who gets cross eyed when someone says defense.

Kobe? He isn't playing his usual D so far. Distracted, old, bored? Whatever it is, he 's about 8th or 9th at this point.

wow!!...who's ur mvp then????

bagwell368
11-11-2009, 11:34 PM
For real??? Based on what?? A great (!) 3-4 start?? And where the **** does that leave D Wade with a 6-1 start???

Joke, right?

FG% .522
29 PPG
11.6 RPG

Yeah, Bosh sucks

bagwell368
11-11-2009, 11:36 PM
wow!!...who's ur mvp then????

Later on I'll start to factor team performance more, but its too early for that, try Feb.

Meanwhile based on individual performance, it's Paul, and its not really close.

nipo10847
11-11-2009, 11:40 PM
Joke, right?

FG% .522
29 PPG
11.6 RPG

Yeah, Bosh sucks

lmfao!!!!!! 3-4 start. :clap::clap::clap::clap:

ARMIN12NBA
11-11-2009, 11:48 PM
Why?

Melo doesn't play D

Wade I had sixth, so OK, I'll make him 5th and dump Nash who gets cross eyed when someone says defense.

Kobe? He isn't playing his usual D so far. Distracted, old, bored? Whatever it is, he 's about 8th or 9th at this point.

Kobe is playing fine on defense. Factor in his offensive dominance and the Lakers record without Pau and Bynum. Pretty damn great resume and easily top 3-5.

kozelkid
11-11-2009, 11:56 PM
LOL Na i didnt want to sound like a d*** my bad man

Don't worry you didn't. I just didn't want to sound like someone who didn't know his Chris Paul:p

Ebbs
11-12-2009, 12:01 AM
Melo, Nash, Nowitzki

nipo10847
11-12-2009, 12:07 AM
Steve Nash
D Wade
K Bryant


then the rests....

rapswin98
11-12-2009, 12:10 AM
nash kobe bosh dirk

j-mart
11-12-2009, 12:30 AM
As of now...Bosh. The Raptors would not be 4-4 without his average of 29 PPG and 12 RPG. He leads the league in PTS+RBS+AST per game.

jim51990
11-12-2009, 12:50 AM
1. nash 2 pierce 3 melo big drop off after that

camador22
11-12-2009, 01:05 AM
Nash is no question the front runner for MVP.

1. Nash
2. Wade
3. Kobe
4. Dirk

More-Than-Most
11-12-2009, 01:28 AM
Another strong performance for nash tonight... 12 pts and 10 assists in like 20 minutes... The suns look insane.

king4day
11-12-2009, 01:40 AM
I'd put Nash first right now, but Melo has to be up there too.

GoatMilk
11-12-2009, 01:44 AM
1. nash 2 pierce 3 melo big drop off after that

no Kobe, huh?

Lakersfan2483
11-12-2009, 01:54 AM
Kobe is playing fine on defense. Factor in his offensive dominance and the Lakers record without Pau and Bynum. Pretty damn great resume and easily top 3-5.

You summed up my pts. for me.

Lakersfan2483
11-12-2009, 02:00 AM
1. nash 2 pierce 3 melo big drop off after that

How is Pierce ahead of guys like Wade, Melo, Kobe, Dirk and Lebron? Pierce is playing some good basketball, but he's not in the top 5 in any of the major categories like rebounding, pts, assists, steals, blks, PER. Also, his overall impact on the game is not the same as the aformentioned players. In terms of mvp candidates, Pierce is at the bottom behind guys like Kobe, Melo, Nash, Wade, Lebron, Dirk and Howard.

Duncan = Donkey
11-12-2009, 02:04 AM
i dont understand why some you dont have kobe top 5,
i dont like him at all, but you cant deny he isnt top 5 candidate so far.

my top 3 would be nash, melo, kobe

Lakersfan2483
11-12-2009, 02:07 AM
i dont understand why some you dont have kobe top 5,
i dont like him at all, but you cant deny he isnt top 5 candidate so far.

my top 3 would be nash, melo, kobe

Yep, especially considering Kobe's leading the league in scoring, top 2 in steals per game, top 3 in PER and shooting a career high from the field; and the main thing is his team is 6-1 without Pau Gasol. Also, keep in mind Andrew Bynum has missed 2 games as well. Kobe has been dominant thus far, especially in the post.

ARMIN12NBA
11-12-2009, 03:16 AM
Yep, especially considering Kobe's leading the league in scoring, top 2 in steals per game, top 3 in PER and shooting a career high from the field; and the main thing is his team is 6-1 without Pau Gasol. Also, keep in mind Andrew Bynum has missed 2 games as well. Kobe has been dominant thus far, especially in the post.

Fantastic point. I believe it is safe to say that for the past 3-4 games, Kobe has displayed the greatest post dominance of all-time for a guard for any stretch of the same amount. His play in the post is remarkable; not just for a guard, but for an NBA basketball player.

It is interesting and worthy to note how often Kobe has been in the post for the past 3-4 games. Clearly this is because of the absence of Pau and Bynum, but that makes it even more incredible. I have believed for a long time that if Kobe was put in the right situation then his efficiency would spike and his PPG would spike as well.

Notice his situation at the current time. Does it not resemble the 90's Bulls (except with a much worse supporting case--Kobe has)? Artest is Bryant's Pippen and Odom is a Kukoc/Rodman/Horace hybrid. Also, the main point to note is that the Lakers currently have no post scorer. Just like the Bulls did not have one.

That is why I laugh when people remark how amazed they are that Jordan won without a post presence...It isn't amazing. It is exactly how Jordan loved to play in the Triangle. It is exactly why Jordan was so great and efficient at his position. Jordan, before now, was the greatest post playing guard of all time. His dominance in the post was amazing, which was what made the Bulls so great. He played in the post for a great amount of time.

Kobe is essentially getting to have his little stretch of getting to play in a similar situation (except with much lesser talent). Bryant is finally, for the first time in his career, playing the exact and definitive Jordan role.

Previously, Kobe has had to play Jordan/Pippen alongside Shaq. Kobe had to play the distributive role and stay out the paint for Shaq while also playing the Jordan role in the 4th. With the Lakers last season, Kobe simply had very little room to operate in the paint with Gasol and Bynum in there. Not to mention he has always been the one and only playmaker on all of his teams. Thus, he has had to take some of the "Pippen" responsibilities.

Although Artest is no Pippen, he is able to adequately feed Bryant the ball in the post. The interesting thing about Kobe in the recent days (other than his prolific and efficient numbers) is that he is playing from the FT line and inside for about 60-70% of the time to even start possessions. He is doing his work early and getting post position and letting his teammates feed him. In fact, Kobe's ball dominance has not even existed this entire season as he doesn't have the ball in his hand very often. He is playing the C/5 role in the Triangle.

Anyways, I know this isn't exactly pertaining to the MVP debate, but I am simply noting some interesting observations about Kobe and his career. For me, Bryant not having that perfect squad around him to exemplify his individual dominance is one of the greatest "what ifs" in NBA history. Well, it is not too much of a what if at least seeing that there are some visual and statistical evidence to see how dominant Kobe could have been had he been in such a situation in his prime.

ChiSox219
11-12-2009, 03:16 AM
Dirk, Wade, Kobe, Bosh, Dwight, Lebron, CP3

Nash deserves some mention, but by the end of the year I think CP3 is the more valuable PG. I don't really consider Carmelo an MVP candidate though he could very well win the scoring title.

Lakers3747
11-12-2009, 03:29 AM
Kobe
Melo
Nash
Jennings

dodie53
11-12-2009, 03:32 AM
Nash, Melo, Bosh

rick66ankiel24
11-12-2009, 03:41 AM
1. Paul
2. Wade
3. Nash

in a month nash will be outta the picture, and it will be back to Kobe, LeBron and Wade, hornets need to get their **** together if paul is gonna be in the mix

braveniler58
11-12-2009, 05:13 AM
Nash.

Duncan = Donkey
11-12-2009, 05:38 AM
1. Paul
2. Wade
3. Nash

in a month nash will be outta the picture, and it will be back to Kobe, LeBron and Wade, hornets need to get their **** together if paul is gonna be in the mix

why's that??

rabueed
11-12-2009, 06:37 AM
1. Wade
2. Nash
3. Kobe

I just don't understand how some of you can have anybody but these 3 guys as the top 3. I understand certain players' individual performance is great, but team success has dictated all awards (and all star considerations) for a while now. Even if we haven't even reached 10 games into the season, you gotta take team success into account. And if you're not, then some of you should be considering Lebron James.

Aside from ROY, I can't think of an award not resulting from team success, correct me if i'm wrong.

And IF Miami and Pheonix stay this way throughout the season, I can see one of them winning the MVP award. If not, then I think it's going to Kobe. That said, I don't think anyone else will be in the running unless you see some major changes from the trends so far this season.

PennyMy#1
11-12-2009, 08:08 AM
DIRK ! Kobe always has to be an option and Nash plays really great atm.

Patsfreak1776
11-12-2009, 09:16 AM
This thread makes a lot of sense...not even 10 games into the season! A lot can happen, calm down and maybe do this after 50-60 games. Kobe could get hit bu a bus , Nash could get chlamydia, and so on. I mean you may as well have made this thread after just 1 game. And this is why people think sports fans are such yahoos.

Mr.ATLHawks
11-12-2009, 10:45 AM
Week 2 and we have MVP talks? OK then....

1. Nash
2. Dirk
3. Bosh
4. Wade
5. Anthony

And I'll give you one further.... Rookie of the year is Tyreke Evans

no love for Joe Johnson? Kobe, Paul, Wade and Bosh....and Tyreke Evans ROY? Have you not seen what Brandon Jennings has been doing in Milwaukee?

AI4MVP
11-12-2009, 02:52 PM
Not even trying to be bias, but right after Kobe, Nash, Melo, and maybe Wade, id put Brandon Jennings. The dude is leading a terrible Milwaukee team to a 4-2 start, including a 32 point, 9 assist performance while leading his team to victory against one of the top 5 teams in the NBA(Denver Nuggets), while facing one of the toughest guards a rookie can face(Chancey Billups)

But right now id say its either Kobe because of what hes done for his team without Pau and Bynum, or Nash because of how hes brining my suns back to life

Raph12
11-12-2009, 03:04 PM
Kobe - No Pau, no Drew... no problem
Nash - Looks great early, will probably lead the league in assists again
Melo - Playing the best basketball of his career

Honorable Mentions:
Mike James and Mark Blount... there I said it so no one else has to

theuuord
11-12-2009, 03:06 PM
Poor Chris Paul...

MJ-BULLS
11-12-2009, 03:07 PM
nash-best record in the west
kobe-lakers playing good with out pau
melo-has been beasting

GoatMilk
11-12-2009, 03:08 PM
Suns only have a better record because they've played more games than the Lakers.

i'm glad these 2 play tonight


Kobe is MVP right now

Derick713
11-12-2009, 03:35 PM
It's Wade. Nash and Melo have better supporting casts. The Suns have had a good team. When you have Stoudemire and Hill next to Nash you know you've got something to work with.

Dwayne Wade is working with a young and brittle supporting cast. There are nights when his PG, SF, PF, and C can hardly be found. His starting SF is an undersized one who got traded more times in one season than most do in a career. His C is in decline and he lacks the explosiveness to be consistent. His PG is still learning and is a second round pick after all. Beasley role isnít has become clear yet. Dwayne Wade is doing it all for this team.

nastylikedwade
11-12-2009, 04:24 PM
It's Wade. Nash and Melo have better supporting casts. The Suns have had a good team. When you have Stoudemire and Hill next to Nash you know you've got something to work with.

Dwayne Wade is working with a young and brittle supporting cast. There are nights when his PG, SF, PF, and C can hardly be found. His starting SF is an undersized one who got traded more times in one season than most do in a career. His C is in decline and he lacks the explosiveness to be consistent. His PG is still learning and is a second round pick after all. Beasley role isnít has become clear yet. Dwayne Wade is doing it all for this team.

Good point Monsieur

fairandbalanced
11-12-2009, 06:56 PM
1. Durant: the next best player is Jeff green and the team is 4-4?
2. Ginobli: How the heck did they win 2 straight against "ok" teams? that is without Duncan and Parker
3. Wade: has Oneal/Beasly and Chalmers helping but has been clutch.
4. Kobe: Dude proves us all wrong yet again Hint: stop waiting for his decline, it's not coming soon
5. Joe Johnson: Hawks 6-2 (beat Suns)
6. Nash: Hands down best pg in league.

arkanian215
11-12-2009, 07:54 PM
lmao pops is a really good coach.

dtmagnet
11-12-2009, 08:48 PM
Nash and Bosh come to mind.

Bashna
11-12-2009, 09:00 PM
1. Durant: the next best player is Jeff green and the team is 4-4?
2. Ginobli: How the heck did they win 2 straight against "ok" teams? that is without Duncan and Parker
3. Wade: has Oneal/Beasly and Chalmers helping but has been clutch.
4. Kobe: Dude proves us all wrong yet again Hint: stop waiting for his decline, it's not coming soon
5. Joe Johnson: Hawks 6-2 (beat Suns)
6. Nash: Hands down best pg in league.


Hawks haven't played the Suns yet....

RapOZo
11-12-2009, 10:59 PM
KOBE
NASH
WADE
PAUL

I just dont understand why people here wanna act blind when it comes to kobe, please recognize it!
the best player in the best team...,
Kobe is 1st in scoring with .486, and 2nd in Steals
in efficiancy has several points over nash and wade and still most of you dont even have him in the top 5.
wow
pau is not playing, bynum missed 2 games and lakers still have same or less losses than any other team.
wow

HuRRiCaNeS324
11-12-2009, 11:12 PM
It's Carlos Arroyo by far

bagwell368
11-12-2009, 11:14 PM
i dont understand why some you dont have kobe top 5,
i dont like him at all, but you cant deny he isnt top 5 candidate so far.

my top 3 would be nash, melo, kobe

I can, I have him at #9

bagwell368
11-12-2009, 11:19 PM
KOBE
NASH
WADE
PAUL

I just dont understand why people here wanna act blind when it comes to kobe, please recognize it!
the best player in the best team...,

Best player on the Lakers? Sure thing. Best team? Oh that was the Globetrotters that blew Utah out? Has almost double the SRS over your team, and we are giving up 12.8 less points per game then you.

Most of you just look at offense, that's why so many have Nash #1. The guy is one of the 10 most feeble defenders in the league among starters. Please.

bagwell368
11-12-2009, 11:21 PM
lmfao!!!!!! 3-4 start.

who cares about record at this stage of the season? They be 1-6 without him, maybe 0-7? You are a FDB

ChiSox219
11-12-2009, 11:25 PM
who cares about record at this stage of the season? They be 1-6 without him, maybe 0-7? You are a FDB

You say that and yet use SRS a stat that is highly volatile with so few games in the season.

Take away that Charlotte game and the Celtics come down to Earth.

ko8e24
11-12-2009, 11:44 PM
It's Carlos Arroyo by far

of course, those 2 jumpers he made as soon as he first got into the game made me jizz in my pants

PrettyBoyJ
11-12-2009, 11:52 PM
Nash or Kobe...

barreleffact
11-13-2009, 12:11 AM
im gonna get flack for this but carmelo...not in my top. not even close.

the man got so much hype based off 2-3 amazing games but he's a tremendously talented player and that happens. since then, he's returned to his normal self and come down to earth. the biggest reason im ready to admit that he's made the superstar status is he is getting an amazing amount of freethrow attempts per game. he can have a horrible shooting night but attempt 18 freethrows. thats the epitome of making it IMO. in fact im starting to consider knocking kobe down on my list because he isnt getting to the line at all in comparison.

that being said, my top 5

kobe- scoring leader, carrying his team without 2 of his marquee players

KG- what he's done since being back s scary. his team is looking legit although idk if its because of him or my number 3...

rondo- he could very well be the all around best player on the arguably best tem in the league

Nash- his team isnt overacheiving. the suns have always been stacked and considering how horrible the league is, im not surprised. that being said he is asolutely ballin his tail off.

wade- again, like nash...the league sucks. unlike nash, his team IS overperforming. and he is the biggest part of it

Lakersfan2483
11-13-2009, 12:41 AM
im gonna get flack for this but carmelo...not in my top. not even close.

the man got so much hype based off 2-3 amazing games but he's a tremendously talented player and that happens. since then, he's returned to his normal self and come down to earth. the biggest reason im ready to admit that he's made the superstar status is he is getting an amazing amount of freethrow attempts per game. he can have a horrible shooting night but attempt 18 freethrows. thats the epitome of making it IMO. in fact im starting to consider knocking kobe down on my list because he isnt getting to the line at all in comparison.
that being said, my top 5

kobe- scoring leader, carrying his team without 2 of his marquee players

KG- what he's done since being back s scary. his team is looking legit although idk if its because of him or my number 3...

rondo- he could very well be the all around best player on the arguably best tem in the league

Nash- his team isnt overacheiving. the suns have always been stacked and considering how horrible the league is, im not surprised. that being said he is asolutely ballin his tail off.

wade- again, like nash...the league sucks. unlike nash, his team IS overperforming. and he is the biggest part of it

Kobe is getting to the line 10 times a game, which is very good for a guard. In comparison, Melo is getting to the line about 12 times a game. The top players in terms of getting to the line right now are Bosh, Wade, Melo, Kobe and Howard.

barreleffact
11-13-2009, 03:12 AM
^ really??? my bad. havent really checked. ive seen quite a few boxscores where melo would have 14-18 ft per game. where as ive seen kobe go off for 41 with 30 attempts. made 19 of them but had like 4 fta. back when, if kobe sot 30 attepmpts and made like 19...that 41 pt game would have easily been a 50 at least. i figured he was down to like 4-6 per game which wouldnt cut it IMO. next time ill look before i speak. lol

GoatMilk
11-13-2009, 03:21 AM
some of you are crazy not saying Kobe

SteveNash
11-13-2009, 03:50 PM
Kobe

Tony_Starks
11-13-2009, 05:38 PM
Kobe Bryant, followed closely by D Wade.