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bleedprple&gold
11-10-2009, 05:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?stat=nbarebound&league=nba&sort=totreb&season=2010

At a mere 6-7, and by almost 2 rpg more than the next closest guy. That begs the question, who is the shortest player to ever lead the league in rebounding? My guess is Charles Barkley at 6-6 (closer to 6-4). Also makes me wonder if a small forward has ever led the league in rebouding before (I don't think he will keep it up the entire season though)

ZebraCity916
11-10-2009, 06:01 PM
Wallace is a beast.

Chronz
11-10-2009, 06:17 PM
Shades of Elgin Baylor

DerekRE_3
11-10-2009, 06:20 PM
I think Dennis Rodman is the shortest player to lead the league in rebounding, or at least the shortest guy to ever average as many boards as he did.

Man...if only Wallace could shoot...

black1605
11-10-2009, 06:26 PM
or just stop taking jump shots all together and just drive to the basket

DerekRE_3
11-10-2009, 06:29 PM
or just stop taking jump shots all together and just drive to the basket

Well that's basically what he did last year. 70% of his shots were interior shots. That's more than Duncan, Al Jefferson, Chris Bosh, Amare, and Pau.

Kakaroach
11-10-2009, 06:31 PM
Gerald Wallace is a flat-out monster. He plays crazy, which is why he gets injured so much. But you gotta love a guy that plays the way he does night in and night out.

bleedprple&gold
11-10-2009, 06:34 PM
I think Dennis Rodman is the shortest player to lead the league in rebounding, or at least the shortest guy to ever average as many boards as he did.

Man...if only Wallace could shoot...

Nope, Barkley beats him out. Barkley lead the league in rebounding in 86-87. I'm not sure about Elgin Baylor though...

jimbobjarree
11-10-2009, 06:36 PM
who?

DerekRE_3
11-10-2009, 06:36 PM
Nope, Barkley beats him out. Barkley lead the league in rebounding in 86-87. I'm not sure about Elgin Baylor though...

Ah ok there you go, but the fact that Rodman got 18 RPG one year at 6'7 210 is just insane.

bleedprple&gold
11-10-2009, 06:38 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_Baylor


An underrated rebounder, Baylor averaged 13.5 rebounds per game during his career, including a sterling 19.8 rebounds per game during the 1960-61 season — a season average exceeded by only five other players in NBA history—all of whom were 6'-9" or taller.

Yep, it is Elgin Baylor, at only 6-5. Crazy. But the game was different back then. He couldn't average numbers like that today.

DerekRE_3
11-10-2009, 06:39 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_Baylor



Yep, it is Elgin Baylor

That's ridiculous, even if players weren't as big back then as they are now.

DODGERS&LAKERS
11-10-2009, 06:54 PM
That's ridiculous, even if players weren't as big back then as they are now.

Its not the matter of size, its the matter of opportunities for a rebound. Each team averaged 109 shots per game 1960-61. Last year, each team averaged 80 shots per game. Thats 58 more shots being taken per game in that time. They made roughly 41% of those shots. So that means there was at least 35 more rebounds to be had per game. If you were not averaging a high number of rebounds back then, something was wrong with you.

nipo10847
11-10-2009, 07:01 PM
Ah ok there you go, but the fact that Rodman got 18 RPG one year at 6'7 210 is just insane.

Ya, Rodman is probably the most remarkable rebounder in nba history (with his size). He avgd 18, 17, 16 rpg. I am not sure anyone of similar size will ever be able to replicate these numbers.

Chronz
11-10-2009, 07:11 PM
Forget about size, Rodman is the best rebounder of all time. Even if he stole some from his teammates in his later days

bigsams50
11-10-2009, 07:48 PM
Crash is a beast, if he could shoot he would be definately be an all star. But he is a good player, and an extremely underrated defender

MiamiHeat
11-10-2009, 07:49 PM
it will go down and won't be that high when the season ends

*Superman*
11-10-2009, 07:51 PM
Come on Dwight.

nipo10847
11-10-2009, 08:02 PM
Ya, it will go down. I dont really see anybody taking this away from D Howard next couple of years.

ManRam
11-10-2009, 08:22 PM
I wont lead the league.

And on a related note...He's just like every other Bobcat: all defense, no offense. He can score, but he's shooting 32% so far, and has like 3 assists all year. The Cats might finish the year as one of the worst offensive teams ever. Trading Okafor for Chandler didn't help. He's offensively challenged as well.

Confusion
11-10-2009, 08:23 PM
Wallace is a beast.Yeah, especially when you are leading the league against people like Duncan. :clap:

Chronz
11-10-2009, 08:31 PM
I wont lead the league.

And on a related note...He's just like every other Bobcat: all defense, no offense. He can score, but he's shooting 32% so far, and has like 3 assists all year. The Cats might finish the year as one of the worst offensive teams ever. Trading Okafor for Chandler didn't help. He's offensively challenged as well.

What do you think of Diaws game?

soundjunkies2
11-10-2009, 08:43 PM
Ah ok there you go, but the fact that Rodman got 18 RPG one year at 6'7 210 is just insane.

The fact that someone averaged 18 rpg is pretty insane.

ManRam
11-10-2009, 08:51 PM
What do you think of Diaws game?

I think it was better suited in Phoenix. I don't think he can be a second option. He's a good role offensive player. He's got some explosiveness and his size makes him a mismatch against many teams. In Charlotte, he's not going to be shooting over 50% like I believe he always did in Phoenix. He's good at a lot of things, like shooting, finishing, driving- all the basics...but he's not really great at any one thing. I'm not gonna act like I know a ton about him, but from what I've seen, including tonight...he looks good, not great. I don't think that's a controversial statement.

The Cats may finish with the worst offense and the best defense. It really wouldn't surprise me...even though Orlando is absolutely thrashing them right now.

bigsams50
11-10-2009, 08:53 PM
I think it was better suited in Phoenix. I don't think he can be a second option. He's a good role offensive player. He's got some explosiveness and his size makes him a mismatch against many teams. In Charlotte, he's not going to be shooting over 50% like I believe he always did in Phoenix. He's good at a lot of things, like shooting, finishing, driving- all the basics...but he's not really great at any one thing. I'm not gonna act like I know a ton about him, but from what I've seen, including tonight...he looks good, not great. I don't think that's a controversial statement.

The Cats may finish with the worst offense and the best defense. It really wouldn't surprise me...even though Orlando is absolutely thrashing them right now.

Well thats expecting from a championship team

ChiSox219
11-10-2009, 11:41 PM
I have to go with Dwight by the end of the season, he is number 1 in rebound % right now

Joakim Noah came into tonight's game 8th in RPG and 3rd in rebound % then grabbed 21 rebounds, giving 12.4 rpg for the season, still about .7 behind Gerald Wallace.

Raph12
11-11-2009, 12:35 AM
Impressive, but I don't think he can keep it up for the whole season... I think the closer it gets to the playoffs, the further Howard will get from his competition.

TopsyTurvy
11-11-2009, 04:28 AM
Jason Kidd. 6'4" and he will end up with over 8000 career rebounds all coming as a guard. #6 in total rebounds among active players at the moment as well.

abe_froman
11-11-2009, 04:44 AM
Jason Kidd. 6'4" and he will end up with over 8000 career rebounds all coming as a guard. #6 in total rebounds among active players at the moment as well.

yes but kidd never led the league

IndyRealist
11-11-2009, 01:56 PM
If his knees hold out, y'all will be having this conversation about DeJuan Blair in about 3 years.

DerekRE_3
12-09-2009, 05:44 AM
Gerald Wallace is still leading the NBA in rebounding, at 12.4 rebounds a game. Pretty amazing that he is still getting this many a game now that we are a quarter of the way through the season. He hasn't tapered off at all yet, and has actually averaging an impressive 14.5 RPG in December so far.

Highlight
12-09-2009, 06:10 AM
Gerald Wallace is still leading the NBA in rebounding, at 12.4 rebounds a game. Pretty amazing that he is still getting this many a game now that we are a quarter of the way through the season. He hasn't tapered off at all yet, and has actually averaging an impressive 14.5 RPG in December so far.

Yeah, it's pretty insane to see. :clap:

They took down Denver also, which is a great accomplishment for Larry Brown and that Cats. They did catch Denver on the second of a back to back, but no one should take away from them.

If they could just be a bit more consistent offensively, they would be a force to be reckoned with. Their defense is just phenomenal.

What I have noticed from them is, when they can't put points on the board, their defense just falls apart, but that's true for any team. Even in my experience as a player, when our offense wasn't clicking, it made playing defense that much harder.

For example, earlier this year, Boston knocked them out pretty good.

Anyways, I went off on a tangent...

Good for Gerald Wallace. He's extremely underrated and I hope he gets noticed a bit more.

bigsams50
12-09-2009, 06:28 AM
Its really impressive what he's doing. When was the last time a SF averaged 12 boards a game?

JasonJohnHorn
12-09-2009, 06:45 AM
Wallace is a work horse, like Rodman. Rebounds are not all about size, but about who wants it most, who is quickest to the ball and who knows how to anticipate where the ball is going. Rodman did all those things. When a shot went up, there was nobody on the floor who wanted the ball more than Rodman. Wallace is playing with that same drive.

As for short guys who could rebound: Oscar Robertson. He was only around 6'4 or 6'3 and he pulled in double digits most of his career, though it was never enough to lead the league.

Wes Unseld was also very short for his postion, I think he was 6'7 at center and his rebounding and interior defence helped Washington to back-to-back finals appearances and an NBA title.

Wilson
12-09-2009, 06:56 AM
A few years ago everyone in the Lakers forum was obsessed with trying to get Gerald Wallace from the Bobcats. He's awesome, hope he keeps it up.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-09-2009, 07:17 AM
A few years ago everyone in the Lakers forum was obsessed with trying to get Gerald Wallace from the Bobcats. He's awesome, hope he keeps it up.

i remember that, everyone were saying that GW can shoot better than Lamar, but that's just nonsense

JayW_1023
12-09-2009, 11:16 AM
Gerald Wallace gets my vote for the ASG.

Chronz
12-09-2009, 12:17 PM
Gerald Wallace gets my vote for the ASG.
You do realize this has been his worst year like ever

black1605
12-09-2009, 12:41 PM
his worst year ever? what are you talking about?

$ NyC $
12-09-2009, 12:45 PM
Actually Bosh and Wallace are tied. Surprised no1 brought Bosh up.

$ NyC $
12-09-2009, 12:48 PM
Wallace is averaging 40 mpg. If his shots start falling he should be an all-star. He's averaging 16 ppg but his shooting percentages aren't that good at 43% and 29% from 3.

black1605
12-09-2009, 12:50 PM
Wallace 12.4
Bosh 12.3

http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Rebounds.jsp

black1605
12-09-2009, 12:55 PM
Wallace is averaging 40 mpg. If his shots start falling he should be an all-star. He's averaging 16 ppg but his shooting percentages aren't that good at 43% and 29% from 3.

his poor shooting percentage is mostly a result of early season performances...he's shooting 50% over the last ten

ManRam
12-09-2009, 01:01 PM
His rebounding numbers are a result of his large amounts of minutes. Per 48, he is 16th in the league. It's a great feat, for sure, but he's playing 5 more minutes than Bosh, 7 more than Dwight, 6.4 more than Noah...etc.

He does lead the league in minutes.

He's not an all-star, not until he gets those offensive numbers up. I know he's improving, but still. I'd take LeBron, Pierce, Granger, even Deng over him right now.

Raph12
12-09-2009, 01:44 PM
Like I said before, I expect Dwight to lead the league in rebounds and blocks when it is all said and done. A guy who could get 20-25 rebounds and 7-10 blocks on any given night, while consistently getting 10+ rebounds and 2+ blocks on a regular basis, easily wins my vote.

I'll get back at this thread in March/April.

black1605
12-09-2009, 02:07 PM
i don't think anyone expects him to lead the league for the whole season...i sure don't

HammerHead1
12-09-2009, 02:52 PM
If I can remember properly, Shawn Marion averaged nearly 12 boards, 2 steals and 2 blocks a game during 05-06. Although, he was playing the 4 more than SF.

DerekRE_3
12-09-2009, 03:21 PM
You do realize this has been his worst year like ever

He, as well as pretty much the entire Bobcats team, had a terrible start to the season. He's starting to get back to being himself on offense.

Ripper Gein
12-09-2009, 04:31 PM
Dennis Rodman is the best Transexual Rebounder in the history of sports history!!!!

GreatMustachio1
12-09-2009, 04:48 PM
Dennis Rodman is the best Transexual Rebounder in the history of sports history!!!!

dudes trisexual

Frantico
12-09-2009, 04:58 PM
Wallace is sick.He's perhaps the most underrated player in the league -
along wth Granger - I'd love to have either one of those guys on my team.

albertc86
12-09-2009, 05:03 PM
I think Dennis Rodman is the shortest player to lead the league in rebounding, or at least the shortest guy to ever average as many boards as he did.

Man...if only Wallace could shoot...

Co-sign. I'm not convinced that Rodman was as tall as they reported him to be. But, Barkley is another candidate.

JayAllDay
12-09-2009, 05:13 PM
Danny Fortson?

I remember him being rather short and really mean. Couldn't really play "basketball" but I guess he was effective.

Sixerlover
12-09-2009, 05:19 PM
Danny Fortson?

I remember him being rather short and really mean. Couldn't really play "basketball" but I guess he was effective.

I don't think Fortson was ever a rebounding machine though..