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Catfish1314
11-01-2009, 11:27 AM
Once or a twice year, PSD holds an NBA ReDraft. In this game played by PSD users, all the players in the NBA go into a draft pool. A lottery is held to determine the order and in 12 rounds of drafting and trading the GMs try to create the best team possible.

This first round match-up features the 2nd seeded Boston Celtics versus the 7th seeded Charlotte Bobcats. The Celtics have homecourt advantage. Their respective rosters and write-ups are listed below:

Celtics:

PG: Baron Davis/Beno Udrih/Jannero Pargo
SG: Kevin Martin/Wallly Szczerbiak/J.R. Giddens
SF: Stephen Jackson/ Grant Hill
PF: Antwan Jamison/Antoine Walker
C: Brandon Haywood/Zaza Pachiilla

Bobcats:

PG: Raymond Felton | Tyreke Evans | Leandro Barbosa | Mardy Collins
SG: Allen Iverson | Leandro Barbosa | Bobby Simmons | Mardy Collins
SF: Andrei Kirilenko | Bobby Simmons | Renaldo Balkman
PF: Amare Stoudemire | Marcin Gortat | Louis Amundson
C: Jermaine O'Neal | Marcin Gortat | Amare Stoudemire

Keep in mind these are not the real life teams.

Celtics write-up:


My team is very well balanced all around. We have the go to scorer in Martin, the playmaking PG in Davis, the do-it-all in Jackson, the big man down low in Jamison and the defensive specialist in Haywood. We also have quality bench players who do their role. We match up great against the Bobcats and I feel we are the better team.

Davis vs Felton. Felton is good defensively and will slow down Baron from putting up great numbers. Davis for the first time has many scoring option to give the ball to so he will have much less pressure on him. Regardless of Felton's defense, Davis should still be able to put up 17-25 points a game. Davis isnt great defensively but neither is Felton offensively. The fact that Felton is losing his job as the starter in CHARLOTTE of all places says a lot about his game. I win here.

Martin vs AI: 2 scorers going up against each other. Difference is Martin at least has mediocre defense. AI is horrible on defense and Martin should torch him up. Did i also mention Martin is 7 inches taller than AI? Martin should easily put up 25+. I win in a landslide.

Jackson vs AK-47:
Kirilenko can do it all defensively but Jackson is the more better all around player with offense involved. Jackson can also help out Baron Davis be the playmaker as Jackson had 7 assists last year. He has very good D as well. Kirilenko is a great defender too but he cant do much offensively. I win again.

Jamison vs Stoudemire:
Many people look at this and say Amare wins by default. However if you look closely, it is pretty close. I mean, Jamison had more PPG and RPG as a 2nd option opposed to Amare who was a first option. I'd take Amare here but it's pretty close.

Haywood vs O'Neal:
A matchup of overrated vs underrated. O'Neal has looked pathetic in some games last year. He doesn't dominate and is weak on the boards. he had 5 rebounds per game with the Heat. Haywood isnt a star but he can rebound and he is a much better defender. I think I win here in another close battle.
I win 4 matchups in the starting lineup and should easily score 100 points. I have quality bench guys as well. Udrih was a starter last year and went 12/5. I have a shooter with Wally. Grant Hill is a great veteran presence and definetely not done. He averaged 16 ppg the last 2 months of the season off the bench and started this year with a 20/13 game. Zaza is a high energy guy and can grab boards. I think my bench is better than the bobcats.

The Bobcats did not send in a write-up.

randomness
11-01-2009, 11:34 AM
Can you vote for your own team?

EDIT: By the way, we have JR Giddens.. not Redick. Thanks.

Catfish1314
11-01-2009, 11:37 AM
Can you vote for your own team?

EDIT: By the way, we have JR Giddens.. not Redick. Thanks.

You can but unless the other team's GM(s) vote for their team, your vote(s) won't count.

randomness
11-01-2009, 11:39 AM
Ok. Thanks for letting me know :)

wwwhat
11-01-2009, 11:41 AM
Bobcats. Celtics don't have enough balls to go around on offense and their bench is straight terrible. I like the Bobcats' team composition. They have a go to post player and perimeter player, a distributor, a stopper, and an intimidator on defense. Plus JO's been a beast, only thing is AI has been hurt.

jrice9
11-01-2009, 11:41 AM
This is the Bobcats in the upset. Here's why:

1, I think the Bobcats have the significantly better front court. JO provides a good enough offensive game and will really help their interior defense. Im assuming hes healthy since its the playoffs. Amare meanwhile provides elite offense which Jaminson is not capable of stopping. Kirlinko is too big for Jackson though he will have trouble going outside a bit with Jackson as well as will again provide great defense which will be necessary with Felton/Iverson.

2, This is a good team for Iverson. He has two really good defensive players in Kirlinko and JO along with a an amazing big man in Amare. That will help him. He also gets a huge mismatch on both sides of the court with him going against Kevin Martin. However, with Baron and Jaminson I dont think Kevin gets the ball enough to exploit the matchup like Iverson will.

3, Charlotte's bench is so much better its redicolous. Udrith is their best bench player yet he is backing up arguabally their best player and hes worse than Tyreke Evans who took his job. Tyreke is a great defender who can defend Baron well and would stand a decent change against Kmart too.I actually think he could work with Iverson and definately possibly with Felton. Wally is a terrible bench player for these Celtics. Who is he supposed to guard. Hell be killed by any of the 4 backcourt players on Sacremento and he can only really shoot. Barbosa is another combo guard who can play with any of the backcourt players on this team pretty well and is definatley better than Wally. Im not a huge Bobby Simmons fan and yes Grant is likely better however the difference is miniscule imo. Its a mismatch the rest of the way Asmunden and Gortat vs Antoin Walker who shouldnt be in the league and Zaza who is worse than Gortat.

Im saying this is a huge upset and the Cats get to the 2nd round in 5 games

Kakaroach
11-01-2009, 11:51 AM
The Bobcats bench will make a huge difference and Amare will go off and JO has proved he can score as well, so you can only put Haywood on 1 guy, the other one will have a good game. Only thing I worry about is if Kevin Martin goes off against Iverson who sucks at defense for like 40+ points. Felton will do a decent job on Davis as well. Bobcats take it in 6.

jimbobjarree
11-01-2009, 11:54 AM
I love the bobcats team, a blend of O and D, plus the two possible weak links in his starting line up he has gortat and Barbosa coming in. And saying Baron is better than Felton :pity: to you sir

PhillyLuver
11-01-2009, 02:20 PM
Yeah, Bobcats have the better team

homestarunner93
11-01-2009, 02:52 PM
LOL! Felton is losing his job in Charlotte? Since when? He's quite obviously the starter, although Augustin is a good player. His defense would absolutely smother Baron.
As far as saying Stephen Jackson is better than AK47, that's laughable as well. AK's defense is a ton better than Jackson's, and Jackson would have trouble with Kirilenko's length. He's also a much more balanced player, rather than just a scorer.
AI is going to score on Kevin Martin as well, because both are pretty bad defenders.
You might say Jermaine O'Neal is overrated, but he would have no problem shutting down Haywood's non-existent offense. Haywood and O'Neal essentially had the same rebounding numbers last year. O'Neal is a much better offensive player and would easily win that match up.
You're sadly mistaken if you think Jamison is even close to Amar'e. Jamison had a great year last year, but he's not going to be able to keep up with Amar'e's athleticism.
And honestly, our bench blows yours out of the water. You don't have a PG that can match Tyreke Evans' size and leaping ability. Barbosa can come off the bench and score at will on your terrible wing defenders, and Marcin Gortat will help neutralize your post game.

bidi_nash
11-01-2009, 03:01 PM
I like the bobcats in this series, i cant believe they didnt get a higher seed

IRUAM #21
11-01-2009, 03:12 PM
Antoine Walker :puke:

PhillyLuver
11-01-2009, 03:19 PM
homestar i think you just pulled the ****** homer card out.

haywood and oneal are pretty much even, both won't be huge contributors.

not sure how amare is so much better than jamison, they are kind of similar players. and AK over jackson? one is offense, one is defense. AK isn't much more balanced by any means.

you still have the better team but you just said some very lame things

homestarunner93
11-01-2009, 03:51 PM
homestar i think you just pulled the ****** homer card out.

haywood and oneal are pretty much even, both won't be huge contributors.

not sure how amare is so much better than jamison, they are kind of similar players. and AK over jackson? one is offense, one is defense. AK isn't much more balanced by any means.

you still have the better team but you just said some very lame things

O'Neal is a much better offensive player, while Haywood's offense is non-existent. O'Neal-Haywood will be a plus match up for our tema.

Jamison is a good player, but Amar'e is younger, more explosive, and more athletic. Jamison is 33, and is getting old. Amar'e will be able to exploit him because he's not a very good defender either.

AK is definitely better than Jackson. AK actually has some offensive game, as he scored 11.7 PPG last year. His length and defense in general will neutralize Jackson. Jackson is a pretty bad defender and won't be able to stop AK in the post.

Kakaroach
11-01-2009, 04:04 PM
Antoine Walker :puke: Haha, thats what I told him.

PhillyLuver
11-01-2009, 04:12 PM
O'Neal is a much better offensive player, while Haywood's offense is non-existent. O'Neal-Haywood will be a plus match up for our tema.

Jamison is a good player, but Amar'e is younger, more explosive, and more athletic. Jamison is 33, and is getting old. Amar'e will be able to exploit him because he's not a very good defender either.

AK is definitely better than Jackson. AK actually has some offensive game, as he scored 11.7 PPG last year. His length and defense in general will neutralize Jackson. Jackson is a pretty bad defender and won't be able to stop AK in the post.

On Amare, Jamison isn't a good defender but neither is he. They will both get their 20-25 points and basically neutralize

Sportfan
11-01-2009, 05:22 PM
LOL! Felton is losing his job in Charlotte? Since when? He's quite obviously the starter, although Augustin is a good player. His defense would absolutely smother Baron.
As far as saying Stephen Jackson is better than AK47, that's laughable as well. AK's defense is a ton better than Jackson's, and Jackson would have trouble with Kirilenko's length. He's also a much more balanced player, rather than just a scorer.
AI is going to score on Kevin Martin as well, because both are pretty bad defenders.
You might say Jermaine O'Neal is overrated, but he would have no problem shutting down Haywood's non-existent offense. Haywood and O'Neal essentially had the same rebounding numbers last year. O'Neal is a much better offensive player and would easily win that match up.
You're sadly mistaken if you think Jamison is even close to Amar'e. Jamison had a great year last year, but he's not going to be able to keep up with Amar'e's athleticism.
And honestly, our bench blows yours out of the water. You don't have a PG that can match Tyreke Evans' size and leaping ability. Barbosa can come off the bench and score at will on your terrible wing defenders, and Marcin Gortat will help neutralize your post game.

Martin will easiy go for 30+ against the 6 foot each Barbosa and AI. Martin isn't a gold defender at all but he's defitantly better than AI when it comes to defense and is much more explosive.
Baron Davis will defitantly get points on Felton, and my backcourt owns yours.

Kirilenko over Jackson? Lol. Jackson is at least an above average defender and will stop kirilenko's limited offense. Kirilenko is a very good defender but Jackson is a great slasher and will get by kirilenko.
Amare is considered the better player yet somehow Jamison had more ppg and rpg while being 2nd option while amare was a top option. They both suck at D so they basically cancel each other out and put up 20+. oneal was downright terrible last year. 5 rebounds for a starting center is pathetic. Haywood and JO are great defenders so it's pretty much a wash as well. I don't see how your frontcourt blows mine "out of the water" if we found sf, I'd say my frontcourt is better than ours and my backcourt is much better than yours. Your bench is better, but I still have quality players in hill udrih and zaza. Plus they only play limited minutes

bahama0811
11-01-2009, 05:25 PM
Bobcats FTW!

DerekRE_3
11-01-2009, 05:26 PM
Bobcats win this easily. Kevin Martin and AI basically cancel each other out, but Tyreke Evans is a guy that can come off the bench and defend the 1, 2, and 3. His combination of length and strength makes him a tough guy to guard as well. Raymond Felton is one of the most underrated PG's in the league and is a great defender, the guy is a warrior. If anyone thinks that Baron Davis would own him, they are mistaken. How the Bobcats were voted a 7th seed I have no idea.

homestarunner93
11-01-2009, 05:56 PM
Bobcats win this easily. Kevin Martin and AI basically cancel each other out, but Tyreke Evans is a guy that can come off the bench and defend the 1, 2, and 3. His combination of length and strength makes him a tough guy to guard as well. Raymond Felton is one of the most underrated PG's in the league and is a great defender, the guy is a warrior. If anyone thinks that Baron Davis would own him, they are mistaken. How the Bobcats were voted a 7th seed I have no idea.

Don't worry, we'll redeem ourselves.

Lakerfrk
11-01-2009, 06:31 PM
Amare was a first option in Phoenix last year? To be honest.. I really think Shaq was the first option, and then Nash was the second...... even if they said Amare was the first... haha.

Lakerfrk
11-01-2009, 06:32 PM
BTW... I voted Bobcats.

JordansBulls
11-01-2009, 06:46 PM
Once or a twice year, PSD holds an NBA ReDraft. In this game played by PSD users, all the players in the NBA go into a draft pool. A lottery is held to determine the order and in 12 rounds of drafting and trading the GMs try to create the best team possible.

This first round match-up features the 2nd seeded Boston Celtics versus the 7th seeded Charlotte Bobcats. The Celtics have homecourt advantage. Their respective rosters and write-ups are listed below:

Celtics:

PG: Baron Davis/Beno Udrih/Jannero Pargo
SG: Kevin Martin/Wallly Szczerbiak/J.R. Giddens
SF: Stephen Jackson/ Grant Hill
PF: Antwan Jamison/Antoine Walker
C: Brandon Haywood/Zaza Pachiilla

Bobcats:

PG: Raymond Felton | Tyreke Evans | Leandro Barbosa | Mardy Collins
SG: Allen Iverson | Leandro Barbosa | Bobby Simmons | Mardy Collins
SF: Andrei Kirilenko | Bobby Simmons | Renaldo Balkman
PF: Amare Stoudemire | Marcin Gortat | Louis Amundson
C: Jermaine O'Neal | Marcin Gortat | Amare Stoudemire

Keep in mind these are not the real life teams.

Celtics write-up:



The Bobcats did not send in a write-up.

How the hell did the Celtics get the better record?

jeff86
11-01-2009, 08:31 PM
I hate the Celtics team and I think as a group they would not exist cohesively

but thats just too much offense power to overlook

Sportfan
11-01-2009, 09:38 PM
Bobcats win this easily. Kevin Martin and AI basically cancel each other out, but Tyreke Evans is a guy that can come off the bench and defend the 1, 2, and 3. His combination of length and strength makes him a tough guy to guard as well. Raymond Felton is one of the most underrated PG's in the league and is a great defender, the guy is a warrior. If anyone thinks that Baron Davis would own him, they are mistaken. How the Bobcats were voted a 7th seed I have no idea.
says the guy who ranked me 1st :eyebrow:

KnicksorBust
11-01-2009, 09:39 PM
The Celtics know how I feel about that team. It's so interesting that with B Diddy/S Jax and Twan/Haywood people hate the chemistry. You'd think there'd be more built in chemistry with that squad + a hyper efficient offensive player like Kevin Martin would slide right in. Personally I'm surprised about the vote but Bobcats have a lot of attractive names and J.O. + Amare is a nice combo in the frontcourt.

homestarunner93
11-02-2009, 12:14 AM
says the guy who ranked me 1st :eyebrow:

Overall talent and match up are two totally different things.

Raps18-19 Champ
11-02-2009, 05:21 PM
C-Ilgauskas, DeAndre Jordan, Ajinca
PF-B.Wallace, Ryan Anderson, Amir Johnson
SF-Pierce, Outlaw
SG-Crawford, Derozan
PG-Harris, Arroyo

My team can beat both those teams.