View Full Version : Does the NBA always get more competitive as time moves forward?

10-31-2009, 02:08 PM
For my part, I think it does. As the world's population increases, the number of people playing basketball increases. As the number of people playing basketball increases, the number of people who are good at basketball increases.
The proportion of talented basketball players to NBA teams has only raised, since the NBA has not expanded proportionate to the world's population. That means that the NBA can be more choosy when drafting players. It was probably easier to get into the NBA in the 1970's than it is now. The fact that it is harder to be drafted means there's a deeper overall talent pool.
What do you think?

10-31-2009, 02:15 PM
I agree.

The NBA expanded for 23 teams to 29 teams from 1988 to 1995. Since 1995 the NBA has added one team but the league's popularity exploded with Michael Jordan so you have more kids playing ball. That's hard to quantify, but the impact of the Dream Team is clear because Spain has some of the best basketball players in the world.

The global popularity is at it's highest and you have a bunch of stars playing that are from foreign countries whereas 10 years ago there were only a handful.

Also players learn by watching the past, Jordan from Thompson, Kobe and Lebron from Jordan, and soon the latest and greatest star will come into the league as a student of Kobe/Lebron

11-01-2009, 01:10 PM
Ive seen people argue the exact opposite, with more teams the league has become diluted. There are more end of the bench players that wouldnt even be in the league years ago because the competition for the roster spot was greater with less teams around. There are more specialists thats for sure, but old timers just say the invention of the specialist is an admittance to lack of skill.

Interesting thread though, but you need some research to back it up. I really dont think the leagues are that different, but I do know that its NOT as straight forward as the NBA always getting better. Every so often a weak champion arises that wouldnt even be in the hunt the previous year, or years before. One of the Spurs championships happened in a weakened league.

Right now though, I think the leagues as strong as it ever was in terms of the top flight teams.

EDIT) I forgot the NOT in my argument

11-01-2009, 01:31 PM
I think the top end is stronger now than it ever has been. I often wonder about this when people say "who is the greatest of all time?" MJ is the popular choice. IMO, there are about 5 guys in the NBA better than Jordan right now. There are probably 25 guys as athletic as Jordan but don't have much skill (Darius Miles comes to mind).

Flame away.

Jahari Kavi
11-01-2009, 02:06 PM
IMO, there are about 5 guys in the NBA better than Jordan right now

uh oh, lol.........all I'm saying is you do realize MJ came back as a 40 + year old man and was capable of dropping 40, right?.......................I'm interested in who you think those 5 guys are?

11-01-2009, 02:09 PM
uh oh, lol.........all I'm saying is you do realize MJ came back as a 40 + year old man and was capable of dropping 40, right?.......................I'm interested in who you think those 5 guys are?

Maybe I shouldn't say better, but more skilled. Some guys just don't have the killer instinct and that's what determines how well you preform night in and night out.

LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Dwayne Wade

Those are just guys who you could compare to MJ, similar size and position.

Tracy McGrady was arguably as skilled as MJ, he just never had any desire to show it.

11-01-2009, 02:51 PM
I think so. I also think it has to do with improved scouting, advanced training techniques, and other factors that improve with time.

Also, people always say that the top of the league is better than it has ever been, which I probably agree with, but they say it is the most top-heavy it has ever been, which I don't agree with. The top is ridiculously stacked with talent, but the middle and the bottom have significantly improved as well.
The West is obviously extremely competitive in the playoff seeds, and the East has improved to the point that the teams that make the playoffs in the East could all be good +.500 teams.
But if you think about it, the bottom 12-15 teams in the league all have tons of talent as well, just lack player maturity or a coaching staff to sort it all out.
The Warriors, Clippers, and Grizzlies any other year would have one of the most talented teams in the year, yet it is unlikely that any of them make the playoffs.
The rest are primarily teams of youth and inexperience, that one day could be great, such as OKC and the Nets among others.
Sacramento and Minnesota, considered perhaps the worst two teams in the league, are loaded with talented young players for the future, including Tyreke Evans, Kevin Martin, Jason Thompson, Spencer Hawes, John Wall, and Jonny Flynn, Al Jefferson, Kevin Love, Ramon Sessions, and Ricky Rubio.

So yes, I would argue that the present and future of the NBA more bright than the past.

11-01-2009, 03:13 PM
your omitting key factors such as expansions that dilute the overall talent level of teams.the drop in bball iq/skill instead opting for great athleticism and trying to mold into something.which keep the league near the baseline it has always hovered around

it just been in the past few years that the overall talent level has risen again..still not as good as 80's though

11-01-2009, 03:45 PM
No. The competition level is always high. Specific team's dominance can vary depending on everything falling into place correctly, injuries, etc.