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JordansBulls
10-30-2009, 11:29 AM
This is what he had been stating over and over last night on TNT.


I think Melo can win MVP. But the Nuggets would have to win close to 60 games and be at least a #2 seed again for it to happen.

KayNti
10-30-2009, 11:38 AM
With Kobe, Lebron, and Dwayne in the league, second place in voting is the best I see him getting. He has a complete game and all but those guys are just slighty better. He's top 5 in the league though...

fairandbalanced
10-30-2009, 11:40 AM
This is what he had been stating over and over last night on TNT.


I think Melo can win MVP. But the Nuggets would have to win close to 60 games and be at least a #2 seed again for it to happen.

I sorta want to agree with Kenny Smith...even if Melo is consistently scoring, he still lacks good rebounding, assist or defense skills. Well Nash won it twice on assists alone, nothing is impossible in the NBA.

Jetsguy
10-30-2009, 11:46 AM
if he has a season like he has had 2 games, yes but I cant see him doing this all year (and I love Melo) LeBron, Kobe, Wade will be tough to beat but it is nice to see Melo finally getting some recognition for being one of the top players in the league

clutchski
10-30-2009, 11:48 AM
"Will win" and "can win" are very different, but if Carmello plays like he did last night consistently he should be more in the running that previous years. Especially if Denver wins so many games.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
10-30-2009, 11:48 AM
I sorta want to agree with Kenny Smith...even if Melo is consistently scoring, he still lacks good rebounding, assist or defense skills. Well Nash won it twice on assists alone, nothing is impossible in the NBA.

he's avged less then 6 boards only once in his career.... wich is good since Denver is a running team and since Melo usually plays D on the perimeter, he leeks out for breakaways. and if you knew basketball you would know Carmelo is one of the best offensive rebounders in the game.

Asists... as of the last two games he's averaging 4 assists a game... a Career high.

Defense?? did you not watch the playoffs or the entire season last year... or atleast the last two games, cmon bruh...


And if Melo plays how he's been playin these last two games, he will win MVP

Melo haters :facepalm:

mikantsass
10-30-2009, 11:58 AM
Ima big Melo fan, i hope he wins it. I just dont really see it happening because his team probably will be a 3 or 4 seed

Game_Over
10-30-2009, 12:48 PM
I don't see him winning it even if he deserves it, the guy gets hosed with All Star voting now all of a sudden he can be a MVP, I doubt it.. I just think he finally will get some All Star Votes, kinda sad how much this guy is under rated but atleast TNT is finally seeing who Melo is. Kinda funny how things change when you make it to the WCF lol..

Raph12
10-30-2009, 01:10 PM
If anything, I think Billups should win MVP if the Nuggets do really well, switch Billups with another PG and the Nuggets' suffer, switch Melo with Granger/Durant and they do just as well, if not better.

Billups is the Nuggets' MVP, anyone who doesn't agree, doesn't watch them enough.

Raidaz4Life
10-30-2009, 01:14 PM
If he continues playing at the level he has been I'd be all for Melo for MVP

TheKing23
10-30-2009, 01:28 PM
I'm a massive Melo fan and would love to see him win... If Denver somehow get 60+ wins (and at least the 2nd seed in the west) and the Cavs don't win 55-60, he could win it.

Jahari Kavi
10-30-2009, 01:42 PM
I sorta want to agree with Kenny Smith...even if Melo is consistently scoring, he still lacks good rebounding, assist or defense skills. Well Nash won it twice on assists alone, nothing is impossible in the NBA.

he can rebound and his defense has improved.

PBG
10-30-2009, 01:43 PM
I'm a massive Melo fan and would love to see him win win... If Denver somehow get 60+ wins (and at least the 2nd seed in the west) and the Cavs don't win 55-60, he could win it.

jimmy two-times?

Jahari Kavi
10-30-2009, 01:44 PM
if nuggest win over 60 and are at least the 2nd seed then he will get the MVP imo

torontocubs
10-30-2009, 01:44 PM
If anything, I think Billups should win MVP if the Nuggets do really well, switch Billups with another PG and the Nuggets' suffer, switch Melo with Granger/Durant and they do just as well, if not better.

Billups is the Nuggets' MVP, anyone who doesn't agree, doesn't watch them enough.

Completely agree. The truth can be seen in Detroit. Billups isn't given nearly enough credit for what he does on the court.

sidenote: you must have two of the most lopsided sig bets in the history of psd. I love the raps but 55 wins is insane, thats a 22 win improvement over last year. And the Lakers winning 70+, these dudes are out of their mind. What has that been done a couple times in NBA history?

Chronz
10-30-2009, 01:58 PM
If anything, I think Billups should win MVP if the Nuggets do really well, switch Billups with another PG and the Nuggets' suffer, switch Melo with Granger/Durant and they do just as well, if not better.

Billups is the Nuggets' MVP, anyone who doesn't agree, doesn't watch them enough.

Can I switch Billups with Deron Williams?

ManRam
10-30-2009, 02:01 PM
If he leads the league in scoring, continues to improve his defense, and the Nugs finish 2nd in the West, then he has a legit chance.

And I disagree about the switching. His size and physicality mean a lot for the Nuggets. I don't think Granger and Durant would fit in as well. I also think Billups isn't the player he was a few years ago.

Chronz
10-30-2009, 02:02 PM
Completely agree. The truth can be seen in Detroit. Billups isn't given nearly enough credit for what he does on the court.

sidenote: you must have two of the most lopsided sig bets in the history of psd. I love the raps but 55 wins is insane, thats a 22 win improvement over last year. And the Lakers winning 70+, these dudes are out of their mind. What has that been done a couple times in NBA history?

Yea but the truth is only apparent because a change made it less obscure. How do you know how good the Nuggets would be without Melo, if hes never left their side? Seems unfair to discredit someone for something he cant prove unless hes no longer on the team.

Honestly I saw the Nuggets as a 3 player team last year, Melo, Nene, and Billups all deserve an equal amount of credit for getting the Nuggets where they were. But Billups is on the decline, Nene is getting better but Melo looks beyond sharp. If the Nuggets win 60, it will be because Melo has finally elevated his game to superstar status. Which means hes combining the defensive intensity, with superior individual scoring. The last time he displayed a knack for such a level of play was in the playoffs, my hopes are it carries over into this year. I was disappointed with his offensive game last year, this year, there are no excuses.

Ray_R
10-30-2009, 02:03 PM
If nuggets finish 1st and leads them in scoring there should be no doubt he wins

Chronz
10-30-2009, 02:03 PM
Who else would lead the Nuggets in scoring?

daleja424
10-30-2009, 02:27 PM
from what I have seen so far this year, Mello has a legit chance. Man is a beast!

Young and Stupid
10-30-2009, 02:30 PM
Wow, talk about premature. The reason Melo is getting all of this hype is because the first two Nuggets games were on national TV (and Melo had good games in both). If anything the MVP of the Nuggets should be Billups. If you replace Melo with Granger or Durant they would put up the same numbers, possibly even better ones. Granger is a better defender than Melo and Durant is a better score IMO of course.

daleja424
10-30-2009, 02:41 PM
Wow, talk about premature. The reason Melo is getting all of this hype is because the first two Nuggets games were on national TV (and Melo had good games in both). If anything the MVP of the Nuggets should be Billups. If you replace Melo with Granger or Durant they would put up the same numbers, possibly even better ones. Granger is a better defender than Melo and Durant is a better score IMO of course.

GTFO!

1. Mello is the leader of the team
2. Mello is better then both
3. His defense has GREATLY improved
4. He is the best scorer in the league IMO

bbcmillionaire
10-30-2009, 02:58 PM
melo is just as good as lebron to me(maybe lebrons a lil better, maybe not)

BkOriginalOne
10-30-2009, 03:13 PM
I was looking at their schedule and it's pretty light in the beginning - out of 15 games, I only think 4 teams CAN beat them (CHI, LAL, MIA, ATL), but they are better than 3.

IF they play the right way, they can get into a good rhythm and get up on the standings - 60 is not out of reach.

The way that Melo is playing, he is looking at MIP votes ( not saying he is going to win, but he will get the votes). Melo for MVP.

Ace33Bone
10-30-2009, 03:16 PM
Hold your horses its a little too early in the season to have already arrived at that conclusion... Yes he is playing the best ball of his career but at the same time LeBron posted 38 in his first game against a great Celtics defense and then came back and recorded a triple double in a lost... Not to mention that Kobe's 33 on opening night was impressive as well and he did not even have a great game by his own standards... Kenny smith may want to wait awhile or he may be eating his own words

MiamiHeat
10-30-2009, 03:17 PM
Kenny Smith loves Melo
he jizzes his pants whenever somebody brings up Melo

abe_froman
10-30-2009, 03:17 PM
he is the dark horse candidate this year

bbcmillionaire
10-30-2009, 03:29 PM
he is the dark horse candidate this year

why is it because he's black? :laugh2::laugh2: jk jk

but i think as billups declines due to age(not a diss, he's one of my fav pg's) melo has to turn into the mvp

JordansBulls
10-30-2009, 03:33 PM
It would be good to see Melo win MVP. That would mean that Melo and Lebron have MVP's, but Wade has the finals mvp

Lakersfan2483
10-30-2009, 03:38 PM
I have been really impressed with Melo over the last 2 yrs. He seems to be coming into his own and is becoming a more complete player. He has a chance at the mvp if he can perform at a high level all year and get his team to win 60 plus ball games.

Raph12
10-30-2009, 03:44 PM
Completely agree. The truth can be seen in Detroit. Billups isn't given nearly enough credit for what he does on the court.

sidenote: you must have two of the most lopsided sig bets in the history of psd. I love the raps but 55 wins is insane, thats a 22 win improvement over last year. And the Lakers winning 70+, these dudes are out of their mind. What has that been done a couple times in NBA history?

Exactly.

Response to sidenote: LMFAO, why do you think I took both bets? Two very passionate fans let their "homerism" get the best of them. I predict Raps to win 45-50 and the Lakers to win 60-65, this year the competition is way to strong for either team to win as many as those guys said. Both got a bit overexcited with their (IMHO not-so-impressive) season openers and got carried away... Btw 70+ wins happened only once, Michael Jordan's 1995-96 Bulls (72-10); a couple of teams came close but no one eclipsed 70 again.


Can I switch Billups with Deron Williams?

No lol, Deron is the only guy who could replace Billups in this league, Kidd back in his day maybe, but Melo can be replaced by a number of guys.

Billups is the team MVP, so if they win 60+ and someone from Denver wins league MVP, it should be Billups not Melo; that is the point trying to be made.

Raps08-09 Champ
10-30-2009, 05:12 PM
He can win it.

He's probably around 6-9 in a lot of people's MVP rankings but he can break into top 5 if he has a career year while getting at least 55 games.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
10-30-2009, 05:19 PM
the answer is NO

thedfactor
10-30-2009, 05:35 PM
Carmelo definitely has a chance. He's a magnificent scorer and his skills are beyond just putting the ball in the basket now. He's matured and has the ability to put his team on his back and take over ball games. Melo is a baller, who has expanded his game on the defensive end of the court as well. MVP is very likely if he stays healthy and continues to produce.

knickerbockerny
10-30-2009, 05:43 PM
He has a fighting chance to win the award, because the Nuggets are going to push for the best record in the west, plus he now has Billups for an entire season which helps him considerably. The Nuggets also have other weapons on the team like JR Smith and Ty Lawson so doubling him pay bite you in the butt.

Kakaroach
10-30-2009, 05:46 PM
He's got a chance, but its very slim. I wouldn't hate it if he won, but I don't think he would deserve it over guys like King James, Dwight Howard, or D. Wade.

JordansBulls
10-30-2009, 07:10 PM
I have been really impressed with Melo over the last 2 yrs. He seems to be coming into his own and is becoming a more complete player. He has a chance at the mvp if he can perform at a high level all year and get his team to win 60 plus ball games.

I agree. I think what hurt Melo was back when he got that 15 game suspension.

dee279
10-30-2009, 07:27 PM
Exactly.

Response to sidenote: LMFAO, why do you think I took both bets? Two very passionate fans let their "homerism" get the best of them. I predict Raps to win 45-50 and the Lakers to win 60-65, this year the competition is way to strong for either team to win as many as those guys said. Both got a bit overexcited with their (IMHO not-so-impressive) season openers and got carried away... Btw 70+ wins happened only once, Michael Jordan's 1995-96 Bulls (72-10); a couple of teams came close but no one eclipsed 70 again.



No lol, Deron is the only guy who could replace Billups in this league, Kidd back in his day maybe, but Melo can be replaced by a number of guys.

Billups is the team MVP, so if they win 60+ and someone from Denver wins league MVP, it should be Billups not Melo; that is the point trying to be made.

So CP3 couldnt replace Chauncey Billups? lol. I have nothing to say about that. CP3 on Denver would be a fun thing to watch.

zambo4president
10-30-2009, 07:59 PM
I agree

AllTheWay
10-30-2009, 08:04 PM
Eh, not a chance.

Raph12
10-30-2009, 08:09 PM
So CP3 couldnt replace Chauncey Billups? lol. I have nothing to say about that. CP3 on Denver would be a fun thing to watch.

Nope he can't... doesn't have the size.

hoopordie25
10-30-2009, 08:24 PM
Carmelo has a tough season ahead of him if he wants to win the mvp. Hes an incredible player but with kobe wade and lebron in the league i have to say not this season.
Top 5 and 2nd best small forward to lebron, much respect melo

B.JenningsMVP
10-30-2009, 09:09 PM
Agree with him

JordansBulls
10-30-2009, 11:40 PM
Eh, not a chance.

Why is it not a chance?

albertc86
10-31-2009, 12:04 AM
Melo will not win MVP because the Nuggets won't be the first seed.

mrblisterdundee
10-31-2009, 02:12 PM
It's possible, but not likely. I think Carmello would have to be more of a point forward than he is now. He would also have to further improve his defense. They guy is definitely talented enough to win MVP, though.
It all depends on how well the Nuggets perform. I expect Carmello and Chauncey to be in the top-10 of the Race to the MVP standings at some point this season. One has the talent, and the other has the leadership.

IversonIsKrazy
10-31-2009, 07:19 PM
THis will be the first season Melo will finish top 5 in the MVP voting, im not sure he cant beat out Kobe, LeBron, or Dwight though.

HuRRiCaNeS324
10-31-2009, 07:55 PM
This is what i hate about the media. They jump on the bandwagon quicker than anyone. Melo is gonna have another great year and the Nuggets will have a top 4 seed most likely. But to say Melo is gonna be MVP is farfetched.

ko8e24
10-31-2009, 07:58 PM
Melo is indeed gonna be MVP, or close to it. It'll prolly be between Dwight and Melo to be honest. That Lebron boat has sailed, especially with all that hoopla last season, and then failing in the ECF. Wade is on a 40 win team, Chris Paul won't be of the elite West, and Kobe is just trying to get by the regular season to dominate the playoffs. so it is b/w melo and dwight

Ray_R
10-31-2009, 08:22 PM
Who else would lead the Nuggets in scoring?

i just got to cover every angle

IBleedPurple
11-01-2009, 03:00 AM
Huge Melo fan, but the problem is he could play better than Kobe, Lebron, & Dwade....and he still wouldn't win MVP. Not a big enough market, and many voters would still credit Billups and not give Melo his props.

coloradobuff
11-01-2009, 01:59 PM
My shop, sportsbook.com has Carmelo at 20/1 to win MVP.

I think that is great value. Carmelo has picked up where he left off in last year's playoff, by taking the ball the hole. Now that Melo has built a great rapport a point guard like Billups, I think he has a great chance to win MVP. Certainly worth a bet at 20/1. Agree?

coloradobuff
11-01-2009, 02:14 PM
Kenny smith even said after blazers gm thurs nite that Carmelo would be his pick for mvp. I know its only gm 2, but thats why i figure you gotta pull trigger on bet like this now to get good value like 20/1.

Ragun
11-01-2009, 11:45 PM
another 40 point performance...the guy is feeling it right now.

SA5195
11-01-2009, 11:46 PM
Wow...he is back

It could happen.

JJ_JKidd
11-02-2009, 01:26 AM
another 40 point performance...the guy is feeling it right now.

Another huge scoring game. He can score period. Hes gotta show he can play defense consistently and increase those assists as well for him to be MVP though.

Saltinuts40
11-02-2009, 01:59 AM
Jet is an idiot. MVP goes to a top player from one of the top teams. Denver will not be as good as last year. It's a 4 player race between LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard and whoever finishes 2nd in the west. That won't be Melo

nipo10847
11-02-2009, 02:20 AM
Carmelo has just started to show us all what he was supposed to put up earliar in his career. He fell behind of his fellow buddies (king james and d wade), but he is back in the race for sure! He might win the mvp if nuggets do as well as last yr, but my prediction is he is probably getting the scoring title this year. Man, he has been putting up crazy numbers so far!

GodsSon
11-02-2009, 02:34 AM
doubt he wins with Lebron, Kobe, Wade and Dwight around

JordansBulls
11-02-2009, 02:59 PM
doubt he wins with Lebron, Kobe, Wade and Dwight around

That doesn't matter.

iggypop123
11-02-2009, 03:48 PM
if he can continue to average 35 points a game he has a shot. early test for them nov 13 against lakers. i hope its not at denver cause those are usually 2nd night of back to backs where denver just wins cause they arent tired and elevation

Raph12
11-02-2009, 03:52 PM
That doesn't matter.

Beg to differ; if the Magic finish 1st, Howard will win it; if the Cavs finish 1st, Lebron will win it; if the Lakers win 70+ games, Kobe will win it; okay you can take Wade out, he won't win because I don't think his team could even finish in top 5 IMHO.

With that being said, if Melo continues to drop 37+ppg, 7+rpg, 4+apg, 1+spg on 53+% from the field, 42+% from the arc and 87+% from the charity stripe, while his team finishes top 3 in the West, then, and only then, would Melo win it.

Go_NUGGETS
11-02-2009, 05:12 PM
Beg to differ; if the Magic finish 1st, Howard will win it; if the Cavs finish 1st, Lebron will win it; if the Lakers win 70+ games, Kobe will win it; okay you can take Wade out, he won't win because I don't think his team could even finish in top 5 IMHO.

With that being said, if Melo continues to drop 37+ppg, 7+rpg, 4+apg, 1+spg on 53+% from the field, 42+% from the arc and 87+% from the charity stripe, while his team finishes top 3 in the West, then, and only then, would Melo win it.

^^^What????.....

You said if Magic,Cavs,or Lakers finish first, then the best players on each of those teams will receive the MVP...Then you go on to say if Melo produces stats consistently and the Nuggets finish top 3 in the west then Melo could win it??????? So if the Nuggets finish top 3 and Melo produces stats, but Lakers win 70 games....Who wins the MVP?? If Nuggets finish top 3 and Melo produces stats, but Magic or Cavs finish number 1....Who wins the MVP???? Your logic isn't adding up....


So in other words...Your opinion seems scattered, and rather nullified when concerning such a subject.

8kobe24
11-02-2009, 05:19 PM
If the Nuggets can get the top record in the west with melo avg these type of numbers, I'd say he has a legit shot...he's gotta improve his D though. I don't really care who wins MVP as long as the Lakers win the championship.

Litchris12
11-02-2009, 05:26 PM
If the Nuggets can get the top record in the west with melo avg these type of numbers, I'd say he has a legit shot...he's gotta improve his D though. I don't really care who wins MVP as long as the Lakers win the championship.



lol true that.....kobe put up 41 the other night so i dunno right now.

MackSnackWrap
11-02-2009, 05:43 PM
Nope he aint winning squat as long as lebrons in this league and even after that there wade and kobe.. good luck meloo

MackSnackWrap
11-02-2009, 05:43 PM
If were basing predictions on the first 3 games of the season Chris bosh WINS HANDS DOWN, 32 and 15 lmfao sikk

Go_NUGGETS
11-02-2009, 06:28 PM
If the Nuggets can get the top record in the west with melo avg these type of numbers, I'd say he has a legit shot...he's gotta improve his D though. I don't really care who wins MVP as long as the Lakers win the championship.



I dont understand...

Can someone elaborate "Improve on D"??????? I don't get it???


Melo has shut down every opponent so far that he's guarded, and has caused many deflections in the first 3 games, and he's averaging 1.3 SPG right now....All he talks about is D, and how he's more focused on the D end then anything else....Yet people still say he needs to improve his D???? wHAT DOES improve mean??


Because as far as i'm concerned he's playin the best D he's ever played, and he;s sticking to his opponents like a magnet...He's causing steals and deflections and he has his hands straight in his opponents face each time....So how does he improve on D????

I don't think Kenny Smith [who's been a Nugget hater in the past few years] would incorporate Melo into that conversation without considering his D.

iggypop123
11-02-2009, 07:27 PM
if he can continue to average 35 points a game he has a shot. early test for them nov 13 against lakers. i hope its not at denver cause those are usually 2nd night of back to backs where denver just wins cause they arent tired and elevation


nevermind to my earlier post. if gasol doesnt play it doesnt mean anything for melo's mvp chances

AIMelo=KillaDUO
11-03-2009, 01:47 PM
Exactly.

Response to sidenote: LMFAO, why do you think I took both bets? Two very passionate fans let their "homerism" get the best of them. I predict Raps to win 45-50 and the Lakers to win 60-65, this year the competition is way to strong for either team to win as many as those guys said. Both got a bit overexcited with their (IMHO not-so-impressive) season openers and got carried away... Btw 70+ wins happened only once, Michael Jordan's 1995-96 Bulls (72-10); a couple of teams came close but no one eclipsed 70 again.



No lol, Deron is the only guy who could replace Billups in this league, Kidd back in his day maybe, but Melo can be replaced by a number of guys.

Billups is the team MVP, so if they win 60+ and someone from Denver wins league MVP, it should be Billups not Melo; that is the point trying to be made.

Lol... when Melo averages 37.7 and 8 boards and 4 assists.... Billups should still win MVP?

Raph12
11-03-2009, 01:54 PM
^^^What????.....

You said if Magic,Cavs,or Lakers finish first, then the best players on each of those teams will receive the MVP...Then you go on to say if Melo produces stats consistently and the Nuggets finish top 3 in the west then Melo could win it??????? So if the Nuggets finish top 3 and Melo produces stats, but Lakers win 70 games....Who wins the MVP?? If Nuggets finish top 3 and Melo produces stats, but Magic or Cavs finish number 1....Who wins the MVP???? Your logic isn't adding up....


So in other words...Your opinion seems scattered, and rather nullified when concerning such a subject.

It's about the rank of each prediction:

Melo can't keep up these numbers, if he does and the team finishes Top 3 he wins no matter what.

If the Lakers win 70+ and no one has a HUGE year like the one people expect Melo to have, then Kobe wins it.

If Orlando finishes 1st in the East and none of the above happens, Howard will win it.

4. If Cleveland finishes 1st in the East and none of the above happens, Lebron will win it again.

Raph12
11-03-2009, 01:56 PM
Lol... when Melo averages 37.7 and 8 boards and 4 assists.... Billups should still win MVP?

Again I don't expect him to put up those kind of stats consistently.

Stunner
11-03-2009, 02:15 PM
I sorta want to agree with Kenny Smith...even if Melo is consistently scoring, he still lacks good rebounding, assist or defense skills. Well Nash won it twice on assists alone, nothing is impossible in the NBA.

WAT Melo is a good rebounder and his defense his getting better he is going to average at least a steal a game, and he is going to get at least 4 or 5 assist a game cuz he going 2 get double teamed all the time and really when JR comes back jacking up threes it not going to be hard for him to average 4 or 5 assist a game. D Wade should have won the MVP last year he just had a better overall season then Lebron minus the playoffs.