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asandhu23
10-25-2009, 03:15 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-forbesoverpaid102309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

During the 1970s, the Rev. Ed Vischer was a prominent high school basketball coach in Long Island, N.Y., leading powerhouse Lutheran High to a string of state and national rankings.

Among Vischer’s many keen observations: Skills come first; size is overrated. “It’s not how big you are, it’s how good you are,” he would say, simply but assuredly. Apparently, the message still hasn’t reached the personnel folks in the NBA.

Teams continue to invest big dough in big bodies, often with meager results. For every high draft pick used on a Shaquille O’Neal(notes), there’s another used on an Andrew Bogut(notes). Teams often view many 7-foot types as “projects,” envisioning the future dominance that could flow from so much height and wingspan as the player’s skills improve with coaching. But a lot of these players flop or, at best, become nothing more than decent players for big money.
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In Pictures: The NBA’s most overpaid players

A comparison of statistics to pay shows that all of the 10 most overpaid players in the NBA play in the front court. Leading the pack is Los Angeles Lakers center Andrew Bynum(notes), a first-round pick out of high school four years ago who’s churned out nine points and six rebounds in 21 minutes per game as a pro. Despite putting up meager numbers during his first three seasons, the Lakers, still intrigued with Bynum’s “project” potential, invested four more years and $58 million in him after the 2007-08 season. The project may yet pay off – Bynum improved to 14 points a game last year while averaging the most minutes (29) of his four-year career. But his numbers have a long way to go to catch up to his contract.

To measure the league’s most overpaid players, we compared major career statistics (primarily minutes played, points and rebounds per game) to players’ current contracts. Since varying contract lengths yield different per-season salary numbers, both total contract value and per-season pay were used in the analysis. Bynum, for example, is measured against other players on the basis of both the $58 million the Lakers invested in him and by the average $14.5 million he rakes in per year.

Obviously the statistical formula misses some of the subtleties – team play, ball movement, defense – that can sway a player’s value one way or another. But like their counterparts in other sports, basketball players’ pay is primarily driven by the big stats.

And it’s the big men who collect the most money without putting up the big stats. Bynum is one of six centers on a top 10 list that includes Charlotte’s DeSagana Diop(notes) (almost $7 million a year, 15 minutes a game), Dallas’ Erick Dampier(notes) (over $10 million annually for eight points and eight rebounds a game) and Chicago’s Jerome James(notes) (a part-time player finishing up a three-year, $30 million deal).

Who’s the most overpaid guard? Keep looking and you’ll eventually find Sacramento’s Beno Udrih(notes) at No. 22. He can thank a five-year, $30 million contract (about twice the NBA’s median salary) for eight points and three assists per game for getting him there. But Udrih is a rarity. Because they aren’t big, guards are more likely to be judged by how good they are. As Vischer always said, that’s what matters.

TannerOwnsDevin
10-25-2009, 03:19 PM
how is bynum overpaid when he got paid last season with his rookie contract?



bynum's salary starts this year:facepalm:

abe_froman
10-25-2009, 03:20 PM
and here comes lake fans ready to explode

TannerOwnsDevin
10-25-2009, 03:21 PM
not a laker fan but my post made sense though...

bigsams50
10-25-2009, 03:35 PM
Dasagana Diop....Why cant we just trade him

Trouble87
10-25-2009, 03:36 PM
I agree with every player on that list except Radolph, Biedrins, Bogurt, & Deng

TheKing23
10-25-2009, 03:38 PM
Diop getting paid $7 million a year for 2 points and 4 rebounds a game... :laugh:

abe_froman
10-25-2009, 03:38 PM
Dasagana Diop....Why cant we just trade him

because yours is the only team willing to take him

HouRealCoach
10-25-2009, 03:48 PM
Dampier is number no way inhell is it Bynum.... 14 pts, 8 reb, 2 blk.... He gets paid what he deserves and he will only get better

-Kobe24-TJ19-
10-25-2009, 03:51 PM
I agree with every player on that list except Radolph, Biedrins, Bogurt, & Deng

Who's that???

-Kobe24-TJ19-
10-25-2009, 03:54 PM
Diop getting paid $7 million a year for 2 points and 4 rebounds a game... :laugh:
:facepalm:

Curry gets paid 11 millions a year for 0 points, 0 rebounds and eating doghnuts and cheeseburgers

jetsfan28
10-25-2009, 04:00 PM
Like everything else done by Yahoo Sports (other than their fantasy leagues), this list was done terribly. Of course something done purely based on stats is more likely to have big men being overpaid, because they do more things that aren't measured by individual statistics (team defense, setting screens, boxing out which could get good rebounding guards rebounds, etc)

IRUAM #21
10-25-2009, 04:05 PM
Who's that???

Yogurt's brother.

TheKing23
10-25-2009, 04:08 PM
Yogurt's brother.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Lakeshow86
10-25-2009, 04:16 PM
That list is total BS. How to you have Bynum who i think starts to earn his money this season because i think he was still on his rookie contract of about 2 mil #1? Besides from not giving much in playoffs last season after missing half the season ,Bynum has played very well the last two season and is getting better and better and is looking like hes the best bigman next to Howard in the NBA this preseason? What about shaq? is shaq worth even close to 20 million anymore? Shaq and diop are the most overpaid

Toenail Clipper
10-25-2009, 05:41 PM
The most overpaid player is Tracy McGrady, with those injuries he doesn't deserve 24 mil a season.

ARMIN12NBA
10-25-2009, 06:43 PM
How did Bynum even sniff this list?

All of his statistics (which are pretty good anyways) came under his ROOKIE CONTRACT.

His new contract kicks in this upcoming season.

Yahoo is way off base here.

D Roses Bulls
10-25-2009, 06:55 PM
how is bynum overpaid when he got paid last season with his rookie contract?



bynum's salary starts this year:facepalm:

because they gave him all that money for potential. he hasnt done anything. if thats the case then dengs contract really doesnt start till this year cause he would of been unrestricted just like BG then. bynum is way way over paid and the lakers were dumb to give him as much

$KnicksAndKobe$
10-25-2009, 06:56 PM
Didn't Bynum get paid 2m last year?

14, 8, and 2 blocks for $2m that year is OVERPAID????


HMMM

D Roses Bulls
10-25-2009, 06:56 PM
The most overpaid player is Tracy McGrady, with those injuries he doesn't deserve 24 mil a season.

then you could say that about yao ming as well. he is injured every single year.

D Roses Bulls
10-25-2009, 06:57 PM
Didn't Bynum get paid 2m last year?

14, 8, and 2 blocks for $2m that year is OVERPAID????


HMMM

you guys really dont get it. he is getting all that money for potential. so what if he made 2 million last year. is 14 points a game last year worth 58 million for four years coming up?

$KnicksAndKobe$
10-25-2009, 07:02 PM
you guys really dont get it. he is getting all that money for potential. so what if he made 2 million last year. is 14 points a game last year worth 58 million for four years coming up?

There aren't many centers in the NBA that can average more then 12 points get about 8 rebounds and block about 2 shots per game. He also shoots well for a center at the free throw line.

Andrew is doing that at a very young age, as the 3rd option in the starting lineup ....

Raps18-19 Champ
10-25-2009, 07:08 PM
For last year, it was Marbury.

He got paid 24 mil to make a running 24/7 video of himself on the internet.

_KB24_
10-25-2009, 07:09 PM
you guys really dont get it. he is getting all that money for potential. so what if he made 2 million last year. is 14 points a game last year worth 58 million for four years coming up?

Why is it not? You can pretty much guarantee that those numbers will go up and soon as he starts to develop his post game and becomes legitimate option in this team. Keep in mind, like someone had already said, Bynum was our 3/4 option throughout the season. This guy hasn't even touched his prime yet.

Bruno
10-28-2009, 02:52 AM
Looks like "the most over-paid player in the league" put up 26 points, 13 boards, 1 block, 1 steal, 9-15 FG, 8-10 FT in tonight's opener.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
10-28-2009, 03:17 AM
you guys really dont get it. he is getting all that money for potential. so what if he made 2 million last year. is 14 points a game last year worth 58 million for four years coming up?

You just don't get it do you???

He averaged 14 and 8 for 2 millions!
How's that overpaid???
Now he gets 13 per year and needs to average 18 and 10.And if he would not do that, THEN HE WILL BE OVERPAID!!

SIMPLE AS THAT!

HE'S NOT OVERPAID!!FOR GOD SAKE!!
PERIOD

kingkobe
10-28-2009, 03:35 AM
Yogurt's brother.

Wow can't believe u though the exact same thing as I did when I read that question. hahaha

abe_froman
10-28-2009, 03:41 AM
You just don't get it do you???

He averaged 14 and 8 for 2 millions!
How's that overpaid???
Now he gets 13 per year and needs to average 18 and 10.And if he would not do that, THEN HE WILL BE OVERPAID!!

SIMPLE AS THAT!

HE'S NOT OVERPAID!!FOR GOD SAKE!!
PERIOD

here read the article,he explains why:

"the Lakers, still intrigued with Bynum’s “project” potential, invested four more years and $58 million in him after the 2007-08 season. The project may yet pay off – Bynum improved to 14 points a game last year while averaging the most minutes (29) of his four-year career. But his numbers have a long way to go to catch up to his contract

To measure the league’s most overpaid players, we compared major career statistics (primarily minutes played, points and rebounds per game) to players’ current contracts. Since varying contract lengths yield different per-season salary numbers, both total contract value and per-season pay were used in the analysis. Bynum, for example, is measured against other players on the basis of both the $58 million the Lakers invested in him and by the average $14.5 million he rakes in per year.

Obviously the statistical formula misses some of the subtleties – team play, ball movement, defense – that can sway a player’s value one way or another. But like their counterparts in other sports, basketball players’ pay is primarily driven by the big stats."


it has nothing to do with potential,but on what you've done.purely on stats v. other players who make the same money(so other players making 14.5 mil a year have higher ppg,rpg than he does.thus "overpaid" per his production)

do you understand now?

JJ_JKidd
10-28-2009, 03:51 AM
The dude (Bynum) dropped 26pts and 13rebs just a while ago. :clap:

AllDay28
10-28-2009, 03:52 AM
bynum is overpaid, but idk about the highest overpaid in the NBA. he still has potential, but its whether he develops. You could say the same about people like Oden/Lopez/Bargnani and how much potential they have.

Speedrunner86
10-28-2009, 04:56 AM
Jamal Tinsley? got paid about 7 mil last year and never made it on the court. Pacers had to buyout his contract, for an undisclosed amount, lets just assume 2-4 million and he's finally now off the team.

so about 10 million for a guy who wasn't injured and didn't play a single game.

Hawkeye15
10-28-2009, 02:13 PM
Bynum was paid like $4 million last year. Why are they using this year's salary to judge him when he hasn't played a game yet this season?? The rest are all fine.

ChiBulls91
10-28-2009, 02:38 PM
anyone else notice this? They have andrei kirilenko but check out the picture. good ol' yahoo sports

http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/22/overpaid-basketball-players-business-sports-nba_slide_4.html