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ko8e24
10-04-2009, 08:26 PM
Best Quartets in the NBA. Choose and Explain Your Reasoning. And if I forgot other quartets, please list them.


Los Angeles Lakers-Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom (Andrew Bynum could be an option)
Boston Celtics-Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rasheed Wallace (Rajon Rondo could be an option)
Cleveland Cavaliers-LeBron James, Shaquille O'Neal, Mo Williams, Delonte West
Orlando Magic-Dwight Howard, Vince Carter, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis
Phoenix Suns-Ama're Stoudemire, Steve Nash, Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson (Grant Hill could be an option)
Dallas Mavericks-Dirk Nowtizki, Josh Howard, Jason Kidd, Jason Terry (Shawn Marion could be an option)
Miami Heat-Dwyane Wade, Michael Beasley, Quentin Richardson, Udonis Haslem
San Antonio Spurs-Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson, Manu Ginobili (Roger Mason Jr. could be an option)
Houston Rockets-Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, Trevor Ariza, Louis Scola (Aaron Brooks could be an option)
Toronto Raptors-Chris Bosh, Hedo Turkoglu, Andrea Bargnani, Jose Calderon (Demar Derozan could be an option)
Portland Trailblazers-Brandon Roy, Lamarcus Aldrige, Greg Oden, Andre Miller
Denver Nuggets-Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Kenyon Martin, Nene Hilario (JR Smith could be an option)
Memphis Grizzlies-Allen Iverson, OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay, Zach Randolph
New Orleans Hornets-Chris Paul, David West, Emeka Okafor, Peja Stojakovic
Washington Wizards-Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Randy Foye (Mike Miller could be an option)
Utah Jazz-Deron Williams, Carlos Boozer, Paul Milsap, Mehmet Okur (Andrei Kirilenko could be an option)

theuuord
10-04-2009, 08:28 PM
Celtics, Magic, Spurs

D-Leethal
10-04-2009, 08:29 PM
the NBA has gone from great teams having 1-2 punch with role players, to 'the big three' and now quartets.......I'd say 1) LA, 2) ORL, 3) Boston

Bashna
10-04-2009, 08:29 PM
Rondo, garnett, pierce, allen (if all healthy) are #1 for me followed by-

Duncan, Manu, parker, Rj

Vince, Howard, lewis, nelson

Lebron, shaq, west, williams

Kobe, gasol, Odom, Artest

In no particular order.

Mavrix
10-04-2009, 08:31 PM
Jason Richardson over Grant Hill right now for the Suns

Ama're Stoudemire > Steve Nash > Jason Richardson > Leandro Barbosa > Grant Hill

disk 8
10-04-2009, 08:31 PM
la clippers griffin davis camby gordon

Mavrix
10-04-2009, 08:34 PM
Rondo, garnett, pierce, allen (if all healthy) are #1 for me followed by-

Duncan, Manu, parker, Rj

Vince, Howard, lewis, nelson

Lebron, shaq, west, williams

Kobe, gasol, Odom, Artest

In no particular order.

Lebron, shaq, west, williams is not better than Nowitzki, Howard, Terry, Kidd

Lebron > Nowitzki obviously
Howard > Shaq
Terry > West
Kidd = Williams (depending on if you want a offensive minded PG or defensive minded PG that passes better)

Raps18-19 Champ
10-04-2009, 08:34 PM
Derozan hasn't done anything for him to be an option. Replace him with Calderon or Jack. At least Jack and Calderon averaged about 13 PPG last year while being injured and in limited minutes.

DC Sports Fan
10-04-2009, 08:34 PM
Wasington: Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Mike Miller/Randy Foye:hide:

Raps18-19 Champ
10-04-2009, 08:35 PM
The Memphis one is scary.

All 4 have averaged at least 19 PPG or higher before.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-04-2009, 08:35 PM
Wasington: Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Mike Miller/Randy Foye:hide:

Isn't Mike James on that team.

Mavrix
10-04-2009, 08:37 PM
la clippers griffin davis camby gordon

Nowiztki > Griffin
Terry > Gordon
Howard > Camby
Kidd < Davis (barely) A lot of people would take Kidd over Davis right now with all his injuries

ChiSox219
10-04-2009, 08:44 PM
Lebron, shaq, west, williams is not better than Nowitzki, Howard, Terry, Kidd

Lebron > Nowitzki obviously
Howard > Shaq
Terry > West
Kidd = Williams (depending on if you want a offensive minded PG or defensive minded PG that passes better)

Nope

_KB24_
10-04-2009, 08:46 PM
Nowiztki > Griffin
Terry > Gordon
Howard > Camby
Kidd < Davis (barely) A lot of people would take Kidd over Davis right now with all his injuries

Nowiztki<Gasol
Terry<Kobe
Howard<Artest
Kidd<Odom

DC Sports Fan
10-04-2009, 08:47 PM
Isn't Mike James on that team.

Apparently you don't know what "best quartet" means, anyways the Wizards have a better quartet than the Raptors.

ManRam
10-04-2009, 08:47 PM
Rondo is definitely the other person in the quartet, not Rashed. I think he's #3 actually, ahead of Ray Ray.


Boston Celtics-Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rondo
Los Angeles Lakers-Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom
Orlando Magic-Dwight Howard, Vince Carter, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis
San Antonio Spurs-Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson, Manu Ginobili
Cleveland Cavaliers-LeBron James, Shaquille O'Neal, Mo Williams, Delonte West

Those are the top 5, in order.

jimbobjarree
10-04-2009, 08:48 PM
deron, booz, memo n ak are better than a few of those

all healthy I like the Celtics, Magic then Spurs

Raps18-19 Champ
10-04-2009, 08:48 PM
Nowiztki<Gasol
Terry<Kobe
Howard<Artest
Kidd<Odom

:facepalm:

Gasol isn't better than Nowitzki.

ManRam
10-04-2009, 08:54 PM
:facepalm:

Gasol isn't better than Nowitzki.

If I already have a #1 option (like the Lakers and Kobe), I'd take Gasol over Dirk in a heart beat. He is the PERFECT #2 options..without a doubt. He is too consistent, and really has no holes in his game.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-04-2009, 08:54 PM
Apparently you don't know what "best quartet", anyways the Wizards have a better quartet than the Raptors.

You clearly didn't get it.

But since you are new here, I'll give you a break.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-04-2009, 08:57 PM
If I already have a #1 option (like the Lakers and Kobe), I'd take Gasol over Dirk in a heart beat. He is the PERFECT #2 options..without a doubt. He is too consistent, and really has no holes in his game.

#1 option is more important that a #2 option.

So Gasol might be the better #2 option but Dirk is the better #1 option.

Mavrix
10-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Nowiztki<Gasol
Terry<Kobe
Howard<Artest
Kidd<Odom

First of all I never compared LA's quartet to Dallas's quartet

Second of all LMFAO @ Gasol being better than Nowitzki. Are you saying Gasol is a top 10 player in the NBA?!?!?!

PS Dallas's bench is better than LA's

Mavrix
10-04-2009, 09:01 PM
By the way, Josh Howard is a little better offensively then Artest and is a way better rebounder.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-04-2009, 09:14 PM
By the way, Josh Howard is a little better offensively then Artest and is a way better rebounder.

I'm not so sure about the rebounding part.

JermanJaysFan
10-04-2009, 09:17 PM
I'll take the Spurs, thanks.
Duncan, Parker, Manu and Jefferson is beastly.

Mavrix
10-04-2009, 09:20 PM
I'm not so sure about the rebounding part.
6.2 career rebounding versus 5.1

Howard has always averaged over 6 rebounds a game since his second year but last season he missed 30 games and was constantly injured resulting in him only getting 5.1 rpg versus the 5.2 Artest got in Houston.

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 09:20 PM
yes gasol is a top 10player in the nba

if he was called Paul Smith and raised in Akron and went to Duke no one would doubt it.

He is on the same quality step than dirk too with the exception Dirk is more a sfoward-pfoward and pau is more a pf-center and that dirk is more me first , shot first pass second and pau is more team oriented.

go check their PER and their statitics for 48 minutes, then check their fg prcentage and project them if they took the SamE number of shots.

SirCarlton
10-04-2009, 09:25 PM
what is up with mavrix..does he really believe the mavs have the best in the league..cus hes making it seem that way

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 09:29 PM
Mavs have a very respecable 4 in fact they scare me more than the spurs or clets since NONE of the mavs are injury prone or too old (except kidd but hey they got terry just in case)

jrice9
10-04-2009, 09:29 PM
You have Derozen instead of Calderon in the raptors quartet lol

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 09:33 PM
yeah wel derozan is american you now, thats a bonus.:p

ManRam
10-04-2009, 09:33 PM
#1 option is more important that a #2 option.

So Gasol might be the better #2 option but Dirk is the better #1 option.

I'm not dumb. I understand. Dirk is better, but Kobe is better than Dirk, and Pau is better than anyone else the Mavs have. No way is the Mavs' quartet even close to being half as good as LA. However, I don't think Pau could ever be the first option, and be on a successful team. He's not a top 10 player because of that...but he is the best #2 in the league, in my opinion. He is perfect for the role he plays on LA.

ManRam
10-04-2009, 09:34 PM
yes gasol is a top 10player in the nba

if he was called Paul Smith and raised in Akron and went to Duke no one would doubt it.

Agreed, because then he'd probably actually be tough...and thus really have no weaknesses in his game. :D

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 09:38 PM
mm you a magic fan? i think he showed you how tough he can be in the finals.
anyway is not fair to compare dirks achievements as leader to paus.

i mean you know.

ho wmany allstars have kidd, stackhouse, jamison, finly , nash etc made?


and now how many all stars have jason williams, posey, battier, stromile swift, bonzi wells made?

imeaqn people should be amazed pau could lead that bunch of ok starters to 50 victories.

ManRam
10-04-2009, 09:43 PM
mm you a magic fan? i think he showed you how tough he can be in the finals.
anyway is not fair to compare dirks achievements as leader to paus.

i mean you know.

ho wmany allstars have kidd, stackhouse, jamison, finly , nash etc made?


and now how many all stars have jason williams, posey, battier, stromile swift, bonzi wells made?

imeaqn people should be amazed pau could lead that bunch of ok starters to 50 victories.

His offensive game is amazing sound. But he isn't a go-to scorer. You can't feed him the ball 20+ times a game and expect him to get you 25-30+ points a game. That's what a #1 option needs to do. Don't get me wrong, I hate Pau, but I admire his ability just as much. He is the perfect #2 option, I just couldn't imagine a scenario with him being the #1 option and being on a successful team. I'm not really basing this on his team with the Griz...I'm basing it on his style of play. Hell, Howard couldn't carry LeBron's supporting cast out of the first round...and there's no way Pau would either. Very few big men can be the #1 option, and Pau isn't one of them.

The Griz were terrible, but just look how much his FG% jumped the second he got to LA. He just isn't an effective #1 scoring option.

I was kind of joking about the toughness part too...hence the big grin. He is much tougher than he gets credit for.

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 09:47 PM
well mmm i think he has being the leading scorer in the last, euro championship, olympics, eurochampinoship 07 and world cup when he has gotten the touches with spain being the main man.

He just likes to trust his team mates in the nba tough if you llok at his game he gets some touches other bigs like bosh or stou or dirk would inmediately try to chip in and instead he looks for an open man in a better position.

He is more on the duncan school than the kg one.

Leading a team is much more than scoring, check kiDd in NJ

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 09:48 PM
and yeah last years cavs r core only real geniuses like lebron, kobe, jordan, magic, kareem prime shaq or so could get them out of first round

VladTheImpaler
10-04-2009, 09:58 PM
yes gasol is a top 10player in the nba

if he was called Paul Smith and raised in Akron and went to Duke no one would doubt it.

He is on the same quality step than dirk too with the exception Dirk is more a sfoward-pfoward and pau is more a pf-center and that dirk is more me first , shot first pass second and pau is more team oriented.

go check their PER and their statitics for 48 minutes, then check their fg prcentage and project them if they took the SamE number of shots.

Let me get this straight. You're saying Gasol is better than Dirk Nowitzki. Then people laugh at you for saying that, and you back it up by saying that Gasol is so underrated/underappreciated because he's from Europe. In a debate against.................Dirk Nowitzki.

:facepalm:

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 10:03 PM
yes gasol is a top 10player in the nba

if he was called Paul Smith and raised in Akron and went to Duke no one would doubt it.


thats what i was actually saying, respodning to someone that said he is not top 10.


Oh and dirk is not perceived so harsly sincehe is german and a blonde uberschmensch.

while pau is form spain half of people in this boards thinks spanish is a race :p so in eyes of such morons dirk is white and pau isnt

bkmikeyy
10-04-2009, 10:14 PM
since we are all being homers....

darko milicic, jared jeffries, eddy curry, chris duhon (larry hughes option)

darko > gasol
jeffries > odom
hughes > kobe
duhon > artest

TheKing23
10-04-2009, 10:19 PM
yes gasol is a top 10player in the nba

if he was called Paul Smith and raised in Akron and went to Duke no one would doubt it.


thats what i was actually saying, respodning to someone that said he is not top 10.


Oh and dirk is not perceived so harsly sincehe is german and a blonde uberschmensch.

while pau is form spain half of people in this boards thinks spanish is a race :p so in eyes of such morons dirk is white and pau isnt

:facepalm:

Whatever way you look at it Dirk is a better player than Pau... Black or white, Dirk's skills are superior to Pau's. Put Dirk on the Lakers instead of Pau and they would win 70 games, no doubt. It's got nothing to do with Dirk being blonde or German, it comes down to their ability with a basketball in their hands.

Also, Pau is not a top 10 player in the league... top 20, yes, but not top 10.

ManRam
10-04-2009, 10:19 PM
well mmm i think he has being the leading scorer in the last, euro championship, olympics, eurochampinoship 07 and world cup when he has gotten the touches with spain being the main man.

He just likes to trust his team mates in the nba tough if you llok at his game he gets some touches other bigs like bosh or stou or dirk would inmediately try to chip in and instead he looks for an open man in a better position.

He is more on the duncan school than the kg one.

Leading a team is much more than scoring, check kiDd in NJ

1. Kidd is a PG. His job is to distribute. Pau isn't.
2. 5% of the players in the Euro championship, etc. play in the NBA.
3. I agree that he is more like Duncan, but he isn't nearly as good as TD was in his prime.

Pau is a top 5 PF in the league, easily. But I just don't think he can carry and NBA very far as the #1 scoring option.

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 10:22 PM
i m fed p of discussing this.

tell me who is beter?

Kidd Nash and Terry or Jason Willaims and Damon Stoudamire and brevin knight?


Josh howard or James posey?

Finley and Walker(primer walker) or Shane BAttier and MIke MIller?


Antwsn jamison ro stromile swifht?


Its an stupid discussion.

And no lakers wouldnt be better wit dirk, dirk CANT BANG DIRK CANT PLAY INSIDE, DIRK CANT PLAY Center when BYNUM IS out.

TheKing23
10-04-2009, 10:27 PM
I'm suprised no-one has really mentioned Denver yet...

Carmelo Anthony - 2nd best SF in the league, one of the most complete offensive games in the league.
Chauncey Billups - Top 5 PG in the league, best defensive shooting PG in the league
J.R Smith - Lights out shooter with unlimited range.
Nene - Top 5 C in the league (behind Dwight, Yao, Shaq, Al Jeff)

They're dangerous...

I think them along with the Spurs, Magic, Cavs, Celtics and Lakers have the best, most complete quartets in the league.

ManRam
10-04-2009, 10:27 PM
I do agree that the Lakers would not be better with Dirk over Pau. They need Pau's size, defense and hustle way too much. They don't need another perimeter scorer, who doesn't bang down low. But if I am starting a team, and my first pick is between Dirk and Pau, I'm taking Dirk in a heart beat.

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 10:28 PM
nene top 5 center?
mmmmm

ever heard bout Biedrins, or Lopez? or Okafor? or chander?

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 10:29 PM
I do agree that the Lakers would not be better with Dirk over Pau. They need Pau's size, defense and hustle way too much. They don't need another perimeter scorer, who doesn't bang down low. But if I am starting a team, and my first pick is between Dirk and Pau, I'm taking Dirk in a heart beat. mm isnt dirk
some years oLDer?

ko8e24
10-04-2009, 10:30 PM
since we are all being homers....

darko milicic, jared jeffries, eddy curry, chris duhon (larry hughes option)

darko > gasol
jeffries > odom
hughes > kobe
duhon > artest

that sir is not a quartet + option, but rather, 3 blind mice, a bum, and a stripper. U figure out which one's which.


PS: I'm surprised you didn't put on there the G.O.A.T. Danillo Gallinari :speechless:

ManRam
10-04-2009, 10:34 PM
mm isnt dirk
some years oLDer?

Last time I checked, this thread was talking about this upcoming season, not 3 years from now. If I'm starting a team for this upcoming season, I'm taking Dirk no if and or buts about it. If I already have LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Melo, Roy, etc...I'm taking Pau.

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 10:37 PM
ok because if we are starting a team i would pick bosh over pau for the age thing.

;)

TheKing23
10-04-2009, 10:37 PM
i m fed p of discussing this.

tell me who is beter?

Kidd Nash and Terry or Jason Willaims and Damon Stoudamire and brevin knight?


Josh howard or James posey?

Finley and Walker(primer walker) or Shane BAttier and MIke MIller?


Antwsn jamison ro stromile swifht?


Its an stupid discussion.

And no lakers wouldnt be better wit dirk, dirk CANT BANG DIRK CANT PLAY INSIDE, DIRK CANT PLAY Center when BYNUM IS out.

Well neither can Pau... He is regarded as one of the softest bigs in the league.

As for your argument about leading their respective teams to good records... Dirk led his team to an NBA best 67-15 in 06-07 and was MVP. He is the more complete and overall better player, whatever way you look at it.

You say half of the people on these forums are morons but you are the one who can't see that Dirk is clearly the better player.

theuuord
10-04-2009, 10:38 PM
Well neither can Pau... He is regarded as one of the softest bigs in the league.

Last I checked it's usually a problem to rely on what's "commonly regarded."

Also last I checked Pau Gasol defensively dominated Dwight Howard in the finals.

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 10:41 PM
Well neither can Pau... He is regarded as one of the softest bigs in the league.

As for your argument about leading their respective teams to good records... Dirk led his team to an NBA best 67-15 in 06-07 and was MVP. He is the more complete and overall better player, whatever way you look at it.

You say half of the people on these forums are morons but you are the one who can't see that Dirk is clearly the better player.

man are you blind or what?

you talk me about the number of vitories they lead their teams.

ahve you checked the player names i wrote?

dirk had always a LOT o ftalent around while pau had a bunch of CRAP around.

so i would go and say it is better to lead a bnc of crap to 50 wins and then lose in the first round to the first seed than

lead a talented team to 67 wins and then BE RIDICULED in the first round by an 8TH SEED!!!!!!!

TheKing23
10-04-2009, 10:44 PM
nene top 5 center?
mmmmm

ever heard bout Biedrins, or Lopez? or Okafor? or chander?

None of those players you mentioned are better centers than Nene...

Biedrins is a good, athletic rebounder, but he can't play a lick of defense and hasn't got much of an offensive game. Lopez in a few years time will be top 5 (maybe even this upcoming season) but going into his second year in the league he hasn't developed enough yet. Okafor is the closest to being top 5, but his game isn't as complete as Nene's, he can block shots and rebound, that's it. Chandler...?? Are you serious? Even when he isn't injured he is a pure rebounder who got probably half his points from alley oops with CP3.

Maybe it's because he's not American... You seem to think people only rate American players :facepalm:

ManRam
10-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Well neither can Pau... He is regarded as one of the softest bigs in the league.

As for your argument about leading their respective teams to good records... Dirk led his team to an NBA best 67-15 in 06-07 and was MVP. He is the more complete and overall better player, whatever way you look at it.

You say half of the people on these forums are morons but you are the one who can't see that Dirk is clearly the better player.

I disagree about Pau's softness. And trust me, Pau is by far my least favorite player in the league. I can't stand him. But he is not soft. He isn't Shaq, but he isn't Shawn Bradley either. He did an amazing job vs. Dwight in the post season...who I'm gonna say is the more physical big man in the league.

He gets that reputation, but he isn't nearly as soft as people make him out to be. He can bang, and he can bang with anyone.

This is much more of a truism when you are comparing him to dirk.

KKell2507
10-04-2009, 10:51 PM
not saying they are the best at all, but at least they deserve to be mentioned cause i think they are better than some of the ones mentioned in the first post. But:

Sixers: Iguodala, Brand, Thad Young, and Lou Williams

bkmikeyy
10-04-2009, 11:00 PM
that sir is not a quartet + option, but rather, 3 blind mice, a bum, and a stripper. U figure out which one's which.


PS: I'm surprised you didn't put on there the G.O.A.T. Danillo Gallinari :speechless:

haha i didnt list gallinari because i actually believe he has a pretty good future and can very well be part of a real quartet one day unlike the 5 "superstars" i listed

ko8e24
10-04-2009, 11:02 PM
haha i didnt list gallinari because i actually believe he has a pretty good future and can very well be part of a real quartet one day unlike the 5 "superstars" i listed

dude does have potential. hope he has a good season

AK-50
10-04-2009, 11:03 PM
in a few years the Thunder

Durant
Green
Westbrook
Harden

UnWantedTheory
10-04-2009, 11:04 PM
I cant believe some of the "quartets" listed here. Also, the ignorant debating of trivial crap is almost laughable. The only teams that will honestly matter are the Spurs, Lakers, Celtics, Magic and on a lesser level that may end up surprising, are the Mavs, Cavs, and Nuggletts.

ManRam
10-04-2009, 11:04 PM
in a few years the Thunder

Durant
Green
Westbrook
Harden

If they can hold onto all those guys, they have a scary future. Durant obviously is a stud. I love Westbrook, think he's gonna be a star. Harden has big time scoring ability. And Green does all the dirty work.

UnWantedTheory
10-04-2009, 11:05 PM
I can not believe some of the "quartets" listed here. Also, the ignorant debating of trivial crap is almost laughable. The only teams that will honestly matter are the Spurs, Lakers, Celtics, Magic and on a lesser level that may end up surprising, are the Mavs, Cavs, and Nuggletts.

nipo10847
10-04-2009, 11:06 PM
Best Quartets in the NBA. Choose and Explain Your Reasoning. And if I forgot other quartets, please list them.


Los Angeles Lakers-Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom (Andrew Bynum could be an option)
Boston Celtics-Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rasheed Wallace (Rajon Rondo could be an option)
Cleveland Cavaliers-LeBron James, Shaquille O'Neal, Mo Williams, Delonte West
Orlando Magic-Dwight Howard, Vince Carter, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis
Phoenix Suns-Ama're Stoudemire, Steve Nash, Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson (Grant Hill could be an option)
Dallas Mavericks-Dirk Nowtizki, Josh Howard, Jason Kidd, Jason Terry (Shawn Marion could be an option)
Miami Heat-Dwyane Wade, Michael Beasley, Quentin Richardson, Udonis Haslem
San Antonio Spurs-Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson, Manu Ginobili
Houston Rockets-Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, Trevor Ariza, Louis Scola (Aaron Brooks could be an option)
Toronto Raptors-Chris Bosh, Hedo Turkoglu, Andrea Bargnani, Jose Calderon (Demar Derozan could be an option)
Portland Trailblazers-Brandon Roy, Lamarcus Aldrige, Greg Oden, Andre Miller
Denver Nuggets-Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Kenyon Martin, Nene Hilario (JR Smith could be an option)
Memphis Grizzlies-Allen Iverson, OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay, Zach Randolph
New Orleans Hornets-Chris Paul, David West, Emeka Okafor, Peja Stojakovic
Washington Wizards-Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Randy Foye (Mike Miller could be an option)
Utah Jazz-Deron Williams, Carlos Boozer, Paul Milsap, Mehmet Okur (Andrei Kirilenko could be an option)

Dude, seriously, u wanna hear it's lakers? Sadly it's not. Celtics get my vote.

Hellcrooner
10-04-2009, 11:08 PM
mm talkin bout celtics, how much recovered is kg?

because if he is not 100% they are not worthy of this discussion.

wich can also be said bout manu and tim

and bout jameer nelson.



so the decision is all bout lakers, magic and mavs IMO

dodie53
10-04-2009, 11:08 PM
lakers

Nexus
10-04-2009, 11:17 PM
I'll take the Spurs, thanks.
Duncan, Parker, Manu and Jefferson is beastly.

Agreed.


Best Quartets in the NBA. Choose and Explain Your Reasoning. And if I forgot other quartets, please list them.


Los Angeles Lakers-Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom (Andrew Bynum could be an option)
Boston Celtics-Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rasheed Wallace (Rajon Rondo could be an option)
Cleveland Cavaliers-LeBron James, Shaquille O'Neal, Mo Williams, Delonte West
Orlando Magic-Dwight Howard, Vince Carter, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis
Phoenix Suns-Ama're Stoudemire, Steve Nash, Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson (Grant Hill could be an option)
Dallas Mavericks-Dirk Nowtizki, Josh Howard, Jason Kidd, Jason Terry (Shawn Marion could be an option)
Miami Heat-Dwyane Wade, Michael Beasley, Quentin Richardson, Udonis Haslem
San Antonio Spurs-Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson, Manu Ginobili
Houston Rockets-Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, Trevor Ariza, Louis Scola (Aaron Brooks could be an option)
Toronto Raptors-Chris Bosh, Hedo Turkoglu, Andrea Bargnani, Jose Calderon (Demar Derozan could be an option)
Portland Trailblazers-Brandon Roy, Lamarcus Aldrige, Greg Oden, Andre Miller
Denver Nuggets-Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Kenyon Martin, Nene Hilario (JR Smith could be an option)
Memphis Grizzlies-Allen Iverson, OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay, Zach Randolph
New Orleans Hornets-Chris Paul, David West, Emeka Okafor, Peja Stojakovic
Washington Wizards-Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Randy Foye (Mike Miller could be an option)
Utah Jazz-Deron Williams, Carlos Boozer, Paul Milsap, Mehmet Okur (Andrei Kirilenko could be an option)

Just a little side topic here, I'll call the best five-tets (or whatever the word is):

1. Lakers: Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Odom, Bynum
2. Celtics: Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Rondo, R. Wallace
3. Dallas: Nowitzki, Kidd, Terry, Howard, Marion
4. Denver: Melo, Billups, Nene, Smith, KMart
5. Utah: Williams, Boozer, Millsap, Okur, Kirilenko

I take a good look at 5th player. Being top heavy doesn't win you many points. Cleveland may have LeBron and have a faily deep overall roster, but they aren't in this convo. Same with NO with Stojakovic as the 4th.

TheKing23
10-04-2009, 11:29 PM
I can not believe some of the "quartets" listed here. Also, the ignorant debating of trivial crap is almost laughable. The only teams that will honestly matter are the Spurs, Lakers, Celtics, Magic and on a lesser level that may end up surprising, are the Mavs, Cavs, and Nuggletts.

Well I suppose the Cavs "suprised" you last year... To not put them into the same category as Spurs, Lakers, Celtics and Magic is ignorant. They are the Eastern conference favorites, ahead of the Magic and Celtics so I don't know what your talking about.

Rocco007
10-04-2009, 11:30 PM
Based on age and current abilities...

LA...
Kobe Artest Gasol Odom

Thats not only heavy talent..but arguably the most versatility in the NBA...

TheKing23
10-04-2009, 11:46 PM
Based on age and current abilities...

LA...
Kobe Artest Gasol Odom

Thats not only heavy talent..but arguably the most versatility in the NBA...

I think the Magic have a better quartet...

Dwight Howard > Pau Gasol
Rashard Lewis > Lamar Odom
Vince Carter > Ron Artest
Jameer Nelson < Kobe Bryant

It's younger as well... Magic has an average age of 28, Lakers 29 and a half.

Ethix11
10-04-2009, 11:54 PM
Best Quartet: San Antonio
Best Quince: Boston

GREATNESS ONE
10-04-2009, 11:57 PM
^ Ya so does the Larry Obrien Trophy

ko8e24
10-04-2009, 11:59 PM
Dude, seriously, u wanna hear it's lakers? Sadly it's not. Celtics get my vote.

c'mon nipo, didn't i tell u to get that skin tag removed from ur arse like months ago????

wtf is ur problem??? if u don't like this thread, then GTFO troll!

ko8e24
10-05-2009, 12:00 AM
Best Quartet: San Antonio
Best Quince: Boston

u mean quintet???

ManRam
10-05-2009, 12:02 AM
Just a little side topic here, I'll call the best five-tets (or whatever the word is):

1. Lakers: Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Odom, Bynum
2. Celtics: Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Rondo, R. Wallace
3. Dallas: Nowitzki, Kidd, Terry, Howard, Marion
4. Denver: Melo, Billups, Nene, Smith, KMart
5. Utah: Williams, Boozer, Millsap, Okur, Kirilenko

I disagree completely with your list (seriously, no SA or ORL?, especially SA, trying not to be a homer)...

The Jazz shouldn't even come close to top 5.

Trouble87
10-05-2009, 12:02 AM
Lakers- Kobe, Pau, Odom, Artest
Spurs- Duncun, Parker, Manu, RJ
Thunder- Durant, Westbrook, Green (maybe Harden)
Hawks- Johnson, Bibby, Smith (maybe Crawford)

Raph12
10-05-2009, 12:08 AM
Lakers, Magic, Celtics (too old), Spurs (too old), Grizzlies, in that order

KBfrom8to24
10-05-2009, 12:20 AM
Here's my list not currently but all time...

Smush Parker
Kwame Brown
Brian Cook
Chucky Atkins
:D:D:D:D:D

Mavrix
10-05-2009, 12:28 AM
I'm not dumb. I understand. Dirk is better, but Kobe is better than Dirk, and Pau is better than anyone else the Mavs have. No way is the Mavs' quartet even close to being half as good as LA. However, I don't think Pau could ever be the first option, and be on a successful team. He's not a top 10 player because of that...but he is the best #2 in the league, in my opinion. He is perfect for the role he plays on LA.

Kevin Garnett is the best #2 option.

D Blue987
10-05-2009, 12:45 AM
lakers easily. They are the defending champs. That is gonna be hard for any team to beat.

Wiz kids
10-05-2009, 01:01 AM
Arenas > Fisher
Butler > Artest
Jamison < Gasol/Bynum
Miller/Foye < Bryant

GoatMilk
10-05-2009, 03:12 AM
lol i knew this was made by a laker fan trying to feel good by making everybody concede to the lakers.

kinda mixed results

Ace33Bone
10-05-2009, 09:45 AM
IMO
1) Lakers
2) Boston
3) Spurs

Sleepers
Wizards

b_rad23
10-05-2009, 09:48 AM
Arenas > Fisher
Butler > Artest
Jamison < Gasol/Bynum
Miller/Foye < Bryant

The most disgustingly flawed comparison ever.

UofA
10-05-2009, 11:09 AM
Orl
sa
lal
bos

Nexus
10-05-2009, 11:29 AM
I disagree completely with your list (seriously, no SA or ORL?, especially SA, trying not to be a homer)...

The Jazz shouldn't even come close to top 5.

The 5th best player on the Spurs would be Roger Mason? How is that a great ending to a quintet?

Then the 5th best player on the Magic would be Pietrus or Gortat or...?

I'd much rather have Odom or Bynum, Marion, Kirilenko or Okur, or R. Wallace.

Mason and Pietrus also both play a position where their teams have a star wing slotted ahead or behind them. That isn't to say SA and Orlando won't be elite this season. In SA's case it'll because of their quintet and depth and in Orlando's case it'll also be because of their quintet and depth.

Raph12
10-05-2009, 12:31 PM
The 5th best player on the Spurs would be Roger Mason? How is that a great ending to a quintet?

Then the 5th best player on the Magic would be Pietrus or Gortat or...?

I'd much rather have Odom or Bynum, Marion, Kirilenko or Okur, or R. Wallace.

Mason and Pietrus also both play a position where their teams have a star wing slotted ahead or behind them. That isn't to say SA and Orlando won't be elite this season. In SA's case it'll because of their quintet and depth and in Orlando's case it'll also be because of their quintet and depth.

Lmao, 1st of all, Orlando and San Antonio have more depth than almost any other team in the league from 1-15.

Second, Odom is the third best player on the Lakers; Kobe, Gasol, Odom, Artest and then Bynum.

Sheed is still better than Rondo (one good playoff run doesn't change the world), as long as he can keep his cool.

Dallas and Utah may have a better 5th/6th option, but 1-4 and 7-15 Orlando and San Antonio blow them out of the water.

The Magic and Spurs don't have the best 5th option, but they both have one of the league's best quartets and one of the league's best benches.


Arenas > Fisher
Butler > Artest
Jamison < Gasol/Bynum
Miller/Foye < Bryant

Your list needs work:
Arenas<Kobe
Miller/Foye<Artest
Butler<Odom
Jamison<Gasol

Fisher is not a part of the Lakers best quartet, that position goes to Odom. Now that Arenas has returned and the Wiz got Miller/Foye, I want to see what happens to Butler.

RaiderLakersA's
10-05-2009, 01:53 PM
Given some of the responses here, it's a good thing basketball is played with more than 4.

Tom81
10-05-2009, 01:56 PM
suns no doubt:D

PhillySportFan
10-05-2009, 01:56 PM
Wasington: Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Mike Miller/Randy Foye:hide:

Andre Iguodala, Thad Young, Lou Williams, Elton Brand.:hide:

Nexus
10-05-2009, 03:12 PM
Lmao, 1st of all, Orlando and San Antonio have more depth than almost any other team in the league from 1-15.

Second, Odom is the third best player on the Lakers; Kobe, Gasol, Odom, Artest and then Bynum.

Sheed is still better than Rondo (one good playoff run doesn't change the world), as long as he can keep his cool.

Dallas and Utah may have a better 5th/6th option, but 1-4 and 7-15 Orlando and San Antonio blow them out of the water.

The Magic and Spurs don't have the best 5th option, but they both have one of the league's best quartets and one of the league's best benches.


Lolz... I SAID Orl and SA have great depth and a sick 1-4. I'm talking about 1-5. Hence: "the top five quintets". And where did I say anything about the players being in order? What a bloody hair-splitting fest this has turned into.

Jetsguy
10-05-2009, 03:25 PM
By the way, Josh Howard is a little better offensively then Artest and is a way better rebounder.

Artest is better offensively than Howard...Artest is one of the best in the league offensively when he wants to be...

Corey
10-05-2009, 03:35 PM
Artest is better offensively than Howard...Artest is one of the best in the league offensively when he wants to be...

Key phrase.

Ebbs
10-05-2009, 05:39 PM
Dallas Mavericks-Dirk Nowtizki, Josh Howard, Jason Kidd, Jason Terry (Shawn Marion could be an option)
Id say Dallas first followed closely by Orlandos
Howard, Lewis, Carter, Nelson

ManRam
10-05-2009, 05:44 PM
The 5th best player on the Spurs would be Roger Mason? How is that a great ending to a quintet?

Then the 5th best player on the Magic would be Pietrus or Gortat or...?

I'd much rather have Odom or Bynum, Marion, Kirilenko or Okur, or R. Wallace.

Mason and Pietrus also both play a position where their teams have a star wing slotted ahead or behind them. That isn't to say SA and Orlando won't be elite this season. In SA's case it'll because of their quintet and depth and in Orlando's case it'll also be because of their quintet and depth.

So the 5th player is all that matters. The 5th best player on the Spurs is McDyess, who is easily the most underrated player in the league. Pietrus isn't an amazing 5th option for the Magic, but he is a great, great role player.

Howard>Deron
Carter>Boozer
Lewis>Millsap
Nelson>Okur
Pietrus<AK47

So because AK is better than Pietrus, the Jazz are better...sure.

The Magic are better 1-4 than the Jazz as well, and KMart being better than Pietrus/Gortat again doesn't make their 5 better.

ManRam
10-05-2009, 05:47 PM
Artest is better offensively than Howard...Artest is one of the best in the league offensively when he wants to be...

I criticize Dwight's offense more than probably anyone on this site...but Artest shot 40% last year. That's terrible. He's a chucker. His shot selection BLOWS. Seriously, it's terrible. Howard is far from being a great offensive player, but Ron Ron is just as far away. If you watched him in the playoffs, you'd understand. He was atrocious.

PrettyBoyJ
10-05-2009, 05:59 PM
Lakers, Spurs. Magics

dtmagnet
10-05-2009, 06:15 PM
Spurs, Magic, Mavs, Lakers all have sick quartets.