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fairandbalanced
09-29-2009, 07:17 PM
Who is best at handling both Point guard and shooting guard duties in the league? Some of you may be confused because I will include Lebron in the Poll...and that is because he can both score and assist.

fairandbalanced
09-29-2009, 07:23 PM
i'll go with Wade

HuRRiCaNeS324
09-29-2009, 07:24 PM
Not to be a homer, but i think its D Wade. He basically plays PG at times and especially in the fourth quarter and does a tremendous job for not being a PG. The next best is probably Lebron James.

IRUAM #21
09-29-2009, 07:27 PM
Mike James.

goku
09-29-2009, 07:30 PM
lebron second best playmaker on here if not the best

Wilson
09-29-2009, 07:32 PM
Chris Paul isn't a combo guard (much too small to guard the bigger SGs), so he's out.

Kobe is an awesome player, but his actual court vision isn't as good as some of those other guys on the poll, so he's out as well.

That leaves Dwyane Wade, Joe Johnson, LeBron James and Brandon Roy. They all play solid defense, all can score, and all have good court vision. I think Johnson and Roy get the nod though due to ball security, they're much less turn-over prone.

Of those two, I think Brandon Roy's clutchness puts him over the top. He's three years younger too.

If this list was just about the best overall player, it would look much different. As a player who best combines the skills of a point guard and a shooting guard though, I think Brandon Roy has the edge.

fairandbalanced
09-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Chris Paul isn't a combo guard (much too small to guard the bigger SGs), so he's out.

Kobe is an awesome player, but his actual court vision isn't as good as some of those other guys on the poll, so he's out as well.

That leaves Dwyane Wade, Joe Johnson, LeBron James and Brandon Roy. They all play solid defense, all can score, and all have good court vision. I think Johnson and Roy get the nod though due to ball security, they're much less turn-over prone.

Of those two, I think Brandon Roy's clutchness puts him over the top. He's three years younger too.

If this list was just about the best overall player, it would look much different. As a player who best combines the skills of a point guard and a shooting guard though, I think Brandon Roy has the edge.

But you didn't vote for him :facepalm:

Wilson
09-29-2009, 07:35 PM
But you didn't vote for him :facepalm:

But I did...:facepalm:

what54!?
09-29-2009, 07:36 PM
I'm being a non-homer: wade. lebron is a point forward.

MackSnackWrap
09-29-2009, 07:36 PM
Ima go with Wade

UK Ivy
09-29-2009, 07:39 PM
wade
arenas
roy
gordon

fairandbalanced
09-29-2009, 07:41 PM
wade
arenas
roy
gordon

Gordon rarely pass.

Kings Faithful
09-29-2009, 07:46 PM
Tyreke Evans!

_KB24_
09-29-2009, 08:03 PM
On that list, it would be a tossup between Roy and Wade with the advantage to Wade being the second best scorer in the League.

Surprised to see Iverson not here. IMO, one of the greatest COMBO guards in history, if not the greatest.

daleja424
09-29-2009, 08:21 PM
none of those are really combo guards they are just SG/SFs that get a lot of isolation plays run for them and chris paul (a PG). A combo guard to me is a guy who lines up at both pg and sg.... none of those guys do that

mikantsass
09-29-2009, 08:33 PM
D Wade

GoatMilk
09-29-2009, 08:34 PM
it's lebron

he's his team's PG, best passer, best scorer

Raps08-09 Champ
09-29-2009, 08:38 PM
Wade followed by Johnson.

I'd say Lebron but he isn't a guard.

Bruno
09-29-2009, 09:20 PM
none of those are really combo guards they are just SG/SFs that get a lot of isolation plays run for them and chris paul (a PG). A combo guard to me is a guy who lines up at both pg and sg.... none of those guys do that

Agreed.

BkOriginalOne
09-29-2009, 09:35 PM
Lebron will never spend time at the two.
None of these guys are really combos anyways.
Combos are usually 6'3-6'5.
Stuckey is a combo guard.
Arenas is a combo guard.

Ray_R
09-29-2009, 09:39 PM
I went with ROY just becuase i really dont condsider Wade a great shooter

P.S Homer is Kirk Hinrich i believe is probally the nearest thing to a combo guard there rare as of right now

fairandbalanced
09-29-2009, 10:31 PM
Lebron will never spend time at the two.
None of these guys are really combos anyways.
Combos are usually 6'3-6'5.
Stuckey is a combo guard.
Arenas is a combo guard.

I disagree... a combo guard is someone who could score buckets and assist...those guys you name are not the best combo guards....Kobe Shoots more than he pass that's why he's known as a shooting guard, so as Wade. Lebron has a big body, plays point and score but also plays big, which is why he's a SF. The reason you are picking Stuckey and Arenas is because they are not consistent on either end.....average it out and you see that Wade has more assists and points than both.

asandhu23
09-30-2009, 12:31 AM
magic johnson.... oh wait, current... I have to go with D-Wade

Raph12
09-30-2009, 01:00 AM
Who is best at handling both Point guard and shooting guard duties in the league? Some of you may be confused because I will include Lebron in the Poll...and that is because he can both score and assist.

Seeming as how Wade is the only TRUE combo guard on that list, I went with him. Hmm, you've been going around arguing for Wade for quite some time and now this thread... seems like you made this thread just so it could be dedicated to Wade.

Maybe I'll start a thread that goes, best point-forward in the league and put up Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Duncan and Dwight. The winner is obvious because it is the only real choice, cmon bro your better than that and if your not, pretend to be.

nipo10847
09-30-2009, 01:04 AM
:facepalm:
Lebron will never spend time at the two.
None of these guys are really combos anyways.
Combos are usually 6'3-6'5.
Stuckey is a combo guard.
Arenas is a combo guard.

How about WADE is 6'4????

nipo10847
09-30-2009, 01:05 AM
I went with ROY just becuase i really dont condsider Wade a great shooter

P.S Homer is Kirk Hinrich i believe is probally the nearest thing to a combo guard there rare as of right now

u gotta b kidding me!...being jealous that he doesn't play for the bulls. Salmon is a better shooter :-)

Toenail Clipper
09-30-2009, 01:06 AM
Allen Iverson and Gilbert Arenas.

ZebraCity916
09-30-2009, 01:10 AM
I'm being a non-homer: wade. lebron is a point forward.

That.

Storch
09-30-2009, 01:29 AM
Lebron hands down

ChiSox219
09-30-2009, 03:18 AM
When I think of Combo Guards I think of guys who actually play both the 1 and 2. This has been touched on, but the only guy in the poll that does that is Wade.

Others:
Monta Ellis
Russell Westbrook
Jason Terry
Randy Foye
Leandro Barbosa

Macedonian
09-30-2009, 07:27 AM
Dwayne WADE

Ace33Bone
09-30-2009, 08:52 AM
LeBron all the way

olrales
09-30-2009, 09:50 AM
I'm going with Roy and not because I'm a Blazers fan, only because you've asked for the best combo guard and I didn't read before voting that it was only for point and shooting. I say Roy is the best combo because he can do everything on the court and he can do it at the 1, the 2 and even the 3 when Portland is playing small. That way, Roy is the best COMBO guard!

If only point and shooting, I'd say Kobe...

sixers247
09-30-2009, 09:55 AM
Gotta go with Wade since i don;t really consider Lebron a combo guard, he is a point forward like someone mentioned earlier.

wileyisTOFU
09-30-2009, 10:34 AM
Roy

Hawkeye15
09-30-2009, 01:00 PM
being nitpicky here, but Roy is the only one who plays both backcourt positions on a regular basis. The others never switch positions basically.

Double_R
09-30-2009, 01:11 PM
It's Gilbert Arenas maybe if he comes back the same, if not, then it's wade and used to be Allen Iverson

Double_R
09-30-2009, 01:14 PM
being nitpicky here, but Roy is the only one who plays both backcourt positions on a regular basis. The others never switch positions basically.

Do you watch any basketball at all, they all take the ball up and run the offense periodically throughout the game

Not to mention that Wade and Lebron typically run point in the latter part of games...so I guess you don't watch those guys huh

Hawkeye15
09-30-2009, 01:18 PM
Do you watch any basketball at all, they all take the ball up and run the offense periodically throughout the game

Not to mention that Wade and Lebron typically run point in the latter part of games...so I guess you don't watch those guys huh

nah, I watch everyone. Just because you are given the ball to make plays doesn't make you a PG bro. LeBron acts as a point forward, Wade as a Point wing at times, but there is still a defined PG or SG with both of them on the floor.
Roy literally plays the PG position, as well as the SG, as defined.
That is why he is technically the only "combo" guard on the list.
If you would like further education, continue to talk ****

Wilson
09-30-2009, 01:20 PM
:guns: :guns:

Double_R
09-30-2009, 01:27 PM
nah, I watch everyone. Just because you are given the ball to make plays doesn't make you a PG bro. LeBron acts as a point forward, Wade as a Point wing at times, but there is still a defined PG or SG with both of them on the floor.
Roy literally plays the PG position, as well as the SG, as defined.
That is why he is technically the only "combo" guard on the list.
If you would like further education, continue to talk ****


Listen sport, I hate to break it to you, but they all run point and off guard... Lebron does play point forward because he's a SF and a PG throughout the game and hence the fact that it's called point forward("Just because you are given the ball to make plays doesn't make you a PG bro") it does though and that is why Lebron is a point forward because he plays 2 positions. That would make him a combo player

Oh yea and when you said Wade plays "point wing" Know that the "off guard" is the guard who plays off the point, usually in the wings.

Hawkeye15
09-30-2009, 01:30 PM
Listen sport, I hate to break it to you, but they all run point and off guard... Lebron does play point forward because he's a SF and a PG throughout the game and hence the fact that it's called point forward("Just because you are given the ball to make plays doesn't make you a PG bro") it does though and that is why Lebron is a point forward because he plays 2 positions. That would make him a combo player

not by definition. Sorry. Kirk Hinrich is a combo guard. Wade is not. There may be extremely small amounts of time where he doesn't have a PG on the floor next to him, but if Chalmers, or any PG they have, is on the floor at the same time, and Wade is playing off guard, he can dribble up all he wants, and he is still the SG.
Its a case of players defined position. And Roy is the only one on this list who actually plays two defined positions on the floor on a regular basis.
And no, giving LeBron the ball on the wing to make plays does not make him a point guard. It just doesn't. He is still a SF, who has been given isolation privelages.

Hawkeye15
09-30-2009, 01:32 PM
look at it like this. Would you want Wade at PG? Or LeBron at PG? For an entire game? No. Roy is asked to do both guard positions. Giving someone remote opportunities to bring the ball up late in the game, cause they are the only player on the roster capable of creating a shot for themselves, does not make them a PG

Double_R
09-30-2009, 01:39 PM
Wade could play point all game because he has multiple times throughout his career, you obviously don't know as much as you think you do and this point wing term sounds quite silly, it sounds like another term for a point guard and 2 guard

Hawkeye15
09-30-2009, 01:43 PM
Wade could play point all game because he has multiple times throughout his career, you obviously don't know as much as you think you do and this point wing term sounds quite silly, it sounds like another term for a point guard and 2 guard

Wade "can" play anywhere. But he doesn't play PG. Not for any length of time. Like I said, late in a game, close, of course Wade or LeBron bring it up, their teammates are not capable playmakers.
A playmaking forward is still a forward. If Chris Paul posts up Nate Robinson for a game, is he now a PF?
And the continued criticism is a nice touch. Done with you dude, your not getting it.
Roy actually started multiple games listed at PG, and SG. The others never have. Pretty simple

Double_R
09-30-2009, 01:48 PM
You have embarrassed yourself and now I have second hand embarrassment based on the fact that you think that Roy is any different, he plays 2 guard and point, they all run the offense and they all play off the ball, that is what happens, I don't care what it says on the program of the game, it's what happens on the court.

SeoulBeatz
09-30-2009, 02:11 PM
the only combo guards on the list are D-Wade and Roy.

Lebron james isnt a guard... period.
Kobe is a straight up SG. He rarely brings the ball up, ****.. Lamar Odom does more than Kobe.
Chris Paul? the guy is 6 feet tall....

a combo guard is a tweener who isnt quite a PG or SG. They usually have to be around 6-2 to 6-5 to fall into this category.

Ray_R
09-30-2009, 02:22 PM
u gotta b kidding me!...being jealous that he doesn't play for the bulls. Salmon is a better shooter :-)

John Salmons is a Sg/SF:rolleyes:

Pornstar86
09-30-2009, 05:36 PM
Lebron will never spend time at the two.
None of these guys are really combos anyways.
Combos are usually 6'3-6'5.
Stuckey is a combo guard.
Arenas is a combo guard.

Stuckey style of play is very similar to Wade.
Wade is 6'4".
Wade has been on the court as a PG, and did it frequently until last year since Chalmers was picked up, but he can def play PG.
Of the list, i would say Wade and mayb Roy are the only ones i would consider.

ChiSox219
09-30-2009, 05:42 PM
82games has Roy playing as many minutes at PG as PF

Kakaroach
09-30-2009, 05:58 PM
Chris Paul and Kobe are not combo guards. And where is Monta Ellis?

heattiltheend94
09-30-2009, 06:15 PM
Wade
(I like how you capitalized WADE's name)

cmellofan15
09-30-2009, 06:20 PM
1. Wade
2. Harris

Combo guards :rimshot:

nipo10847
09-30-2009, 06:28 PM
nah, I watch everyone. Just because you are given the ball to make plays doesn't make you a PG bro. LeBron acts as a point forward, Wade as a Point wing at times, but there is still a defined PG or SG with both of them on the floor.
Roy literally plays the PG position, as well as the SG, as defined.
That is why he is technically the only "combo" guard on the list.
If you would like further education, continue to talk ****:facepalm::

Tell me what is called BASKETBALL???

nipo10847
09-30-2009, 06:35 PM
Wade "can" play anywhere. But he doesn't play PG. Not for any length of time. Like I said, late in a game, close, of course Wade or LeBron bring it up, their teammates are not capable playmakers.
A playmaking forward is still a forward. If Chris Paul posts up Nate Robinson for a game, is he now a PF?
And the continued criticism is a nice touch. Done with you dude, your not getting it.
Roy actually started multiple games listed at PG, and SG. The others never have. Pretty simple
The definition: pg= playmaker (meaning who makes plays, thus who has assists)....and what the **** Steve Blake does in portland??? U don't know any ****! Look at their (wade and roy) apg comparison. it's almost 2:1...PERIOD.

xxxplicit69
09-30-2009, 06:56 PM
i voted kobe at first cuz i thought when you said guard combo you mention a Pg and SG combo like fisher and kobe.

this was kind of confusing but i see what sup now. to be honest you are missing the best player at this. i would have voted dwade cuz he can play PG/SG he is the perfect size (6'4) big for a PG, a lil small for a 2, but has the weight and strength to be a 2.
very fast and explosive, handles and crossover like a POint, finishes like a high flying 2.
and he drops dimes.

but the best player thought out his career at this was A.I. dont sleep on your boy just cuz of last year. and if this was a question of best backcourt, it would go to memphis probably cuz of A.I. and Mayo. rondo/allen and fisher/kobe would be right up there.

but yes Dwade for the poll you have is the best, but best of all time at this is A.I.

MrFastBreak
09-30-2009, 06:58 PM
The best combo guard in the league is Allen Iverson. In the poll, it's Wade since he plays both positions more often than any player up there. And he's more of a natural point guard because of his size and he got experience playing the point from playing at Marquette.

loki34
09-30-2009, 06:59 PM
alando tucker

Wilson
09-30-2009, 07:38 PM
The thing about Wade that you have to remember is his turn-overs. Roy has only played three years in the NBA, so I'll compare those to Wade's first three. In 209 games, Roy has turned the ball over 404 times (1.9 per game). In 213 games, Wade turned the ball over 785 times (3.6 per game).

In their first three years, Brandon Roy played four less games than Dywane Wade. In those four extra games, Wade had 381 more turn-overs! He did play more minutes in that span (7992 compared to 7710), but still that's 381 more turn-overs in just 282 extra minutes.

It's not much better if you compare Wade's last three years to Roy's first three either. In this span, Wade had 712 turn-overs in 181 games (3.9 per game). That's 28 less games, but still 308 more turn-overs! Minutes wise (6933 for Wade, 7710 for Roy), that's 777 less minutes, with 308 more turn-overs.

If you're looking for a scorer, then Wade's your guy. But if you're looking for a guy who can score, call the plays, get the rest of the team involved, and take care of the ball, Brandon Roy is the better choice.