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deftonesrule
09-27-2009, 04:28 AM
so as a knicks fan, I'm sure your tired of hearing it, but we are making lots of space for 2010 in the cap room. and i got to thinking, do NBA players really deserve millions upon millions of dollars? To be honest i don't even know how it got to be that 20 million was an acceptable salary. I'm not fighting it but i think its an interesting debate topic.

what do you think? justified? good? bad? fair to us working folks?

GiantMetKnick
09-27-2009, 04:32 AM
For the work they do, do they deserve that kind of salary? Of course not. That being said, neither do most of the world's CEO's.

Still, if they only made like $100,000 a year, then the owners would be profiting way too much - so I guess the money has got to go somewhere.

ZebraCity916
09-27-2009, 04:42 AM
If they make you millions then they deserve millions.

LAcowBOMBER
09-27-2009, 04:44 AM
Yes they do because they make that money for their teams.

abe_froman
09-27-2009, 05:04 AM
For the work they do, do they deserve that kind of salary? Of course not. That being said, neither do most of the world's CEO's.

Still, if they only made like $100,000 a year, then the owners would be profiting way too much - so I guess the money has got to go somewhere.

this is close enough.

CarolinaBlue704
09-27-2009, 12:29 PM
the sooner people start realizing that the NBA is a billion dollar business and not just a "game",the sooner this debate will end.so in short,yes NBA players deserve to get paid millions.the amount of money an individual NBA player makes in 1 season,is nothing compared to the amount of money an NBA franchise or the NBA as a whole pulls in each year.

are there instances where certain players are overpaid?yes.but it doesn't change the fact that without highly skilled players the NBA would not bring in big revenues every year.NBA players are just getting a small piece,of a very large pie that is the NBA.

HiphopRelated
09-27-2009, 12:45 PM
yes, demand and supply.

The fact that you would play for $1000 a week is irrelevant since you wouldn't make a D1 college squad

you = 99% of the message board.

It's business. They earn far more for the team.

Tom81
09-27-2009, 12:46 PM
no, thats too high

IDB Josh M
09-27-2009, 12:49 PM
To paraphrase Ron Paul when he was discussing the concept of free trade, we give them money for their services. Their services are putting on ball games for us to watch. We as a public are willing to pay top dollar to watch their "services." With the exception of building new arenas (which Ron Paul would not find acceptible) the government doesn't force the people to buy these services nor forces the public to pay to watch these games.

theLgndKllr35
09-27-2009, 12:56 PM
To paraphrase Ron Paul when he was discussing the concept of free trade, we give them money for their services. Their services are putting on ball games for us to watch. We as a public are willing to pay top dollar to watch their "services." With the exception of building new arenas (which Ron Paul would not find acceptible) the government doesn't force the people to buy these services nor forces the public to pay to watch these games.

Exactly, so if you don't like it, don't go. We control the salary of these players by attending games and buying merchandise, but no one person is gonna change this. You would need to change the way people view sports entertainment, and you can't do that when ESPN, TNT, CSN all control the media, and make their money from sports.

MackSnackWrap
09-27-2009, 12:58 PM
overpaid but so our other atheletes in other sports like mlb and soccer and shyt so w.e

primetimekings
09-27-2009, 01:32 PM
Yes without a doubt they have to sacrifice so much to play in the NBA it literally takes up your whole life to play in the NBA they have to be in the greatest condition all the time and earn a lot of money for there franchises

BlondeBomber41
09-27-2009, 01:40 PM
Yes, without question. Regardless of what you think, the NBA is gonna make billions and since the players themselves are the biggest reason for that they deserve to earn the majority of it.

clutchski
09-27-2009, 01:41 PM
well it's a hell of a lot better than the MLB

Bruno
09-27-2009, 06:51 PM
For the work they do, do they deserve that kind of salary? Of course not. That being said, neither do most of the world's CEO's.

Still, if they only made like $100,000 a year, then the owners would be profiting way too much - so I guess the money has got to go somewhere.

Good point, but how about lowering the cost of tickets and merchandise? How about donating to their local communities instead of stuffing their pocketbooks? How about funding athletic programs at local schools that are broke?

mitch91
09-27-2009, 07:01 PM
personally i think all athletes are overpaid but thats just my opinion

HiphopRelated
09-27-2009, 07:17 PM
Good point, but how about lowering the cost of tickets and merchandise? How about donating to their local communities instead of stuffing their pocketbooks? How about funding athletic programs at local schools that are broke?
NBA Cares

smith&wesson
09-27-2009, 07:53 PM
dont they sell out stadiums ?

dont they have to sacrifice spending time with family to constantly travel.

dont they get tested for recreational drugs while the person who works 9-5 mon to friday can go and get high or drunk whenever he pleases.

dont they have to relocate every time a team decides to trade them, thats more than inconvenient.

dont they have to deal with the media ripping them apart every time they make a mistake.

how bout the pressure of performing ?

people always look at the good things, and theyre are alot of good things, like getting paid millions to play a game they love. well its not always just about that. fact of the matter is they draw you fans to the games, and you pay money to watch them, so where should that money go ?? it should go to them because they are the ones working hard to entertein you, not the owners... and guess what if the money doesnt go to the players it goes to the owners.

welcome to the entertainment business, where actors, singers, athletes, are all well paid comodities.

if 50 cent earns millions for his little riddle raps, kobe deserves millions for the entertainment he offers.

if jim carrey earns millions to make faces, and stupid *** movies, then lebron deserves millions for what he has to offer.

if missy elliots ugly fatasss makes millions for ,,, well for being a ******. then well almost every athlete in the nba deserves millions for the talents and skills they pocesss,

thats just my take on it and its completly opinon based.

JNA17
09-27-2009, 08:14 PM
dont they sell out stadiums ?

dont they have to sacrifice spending time with family to constantly travel.

dont they get tested for recreational drugs while the person who works 9-5 mon to friday can go and get high or drunk whenever he pleases.

dont they have to relocate every time a team decides to trade them, thats more than inconvenient.

dont they have to deal with the media ripping them apart every time they make a mistake.

how bout the pressure of performing ?

people always look at the good things, and theyre are alot of good things, like getting paid millions to play a game they love. well its not always just about that. fact of the matter is they draw you fans to the games, and you pay money to watch them, so where should that money go ?? it should go to them because they are the ones working hard to entertein you, not the owners... and guess what if the money doesnt go to the players it goes to the owners.

welcome to the entertainment business, where actors, singers, athletes, are all well paid comodities.

if 50 cent earns millions for his little riddle raps, kobe deserves millions for the entertainment he offers.

if jim carrey earns millions to make faces, and stupid *** movies, then lebron deserves millions for what he has to offer.

if missy elliots ugly fatasss makes millions for ,,, well for being a ******. then well almost every athlete in the nba deserves millions for the talents and skills they pocesss,

thats just my take on it and its completly opinon based.

dude jim carrey is the man :pity:

theuuord
09-27-2009, 08:15 PM
yes, without question.

smith&wesson
09-27-2009, 08:28 PM
dude jim carrey is the man :pity:


i like jim carrey too but thats because i like stupid comedy.... lol

barreleffact
09-27-2009, 09:04 PM
without the players, there is no league. at most a player is getting a fifth of the revenue he generates so yes!

FOBolous
09-27-2009, 09:28 PM
they make millions because they generate millions upon millions of profit for the team. until YOU can make that much money for your company...stop complaining.

Kevj77
09-27-2009, 11:07 PM
Yeah, why not? There are only a handfull of people that can play this game at the highest level. It's entertainment, does anyone cry when Adam Sandler gets paid 15 million to do a movie?

Hustla23
09-27-2009, 11:57 PM
Supply and Demand.

Ace33Bone
09-28-2009, 11:03 AM
I feel as though they definitely should make millions but some of them are making way too much money

GAWDtv
09-28-2009, 12:12 PM
1st question is how much money do they generate? If the business of the NBA produces $100 million off of the work of the players but they cap the players saleries to $100,000 per year, what happens to the surplus? Do the owners and administrators deserve to make more money off of basketball than the players?

Say they cap the owners and administrators (I'm sure they would declare bankrupcy and move on to other free enterprise businesses but for arguments sake) saleries to $50 thousand, what then happens to the surplus?? They can invest it into schools, youth development community outreach. Reinvest it into alot of the ghetto communities most the American ballers come from. However, this would be socialism, leading to communism and against Capitalism.

Therefore the answer to your question is YES

They deserve to get a fair share of the money they generate, which is higher than the owners and administrators cut and the NBA does generate such income as to having player saleries in the $20 of millions.

SteveNash
09-28-2009, 04:07 PM
To paraphrase Ron Paul when he was discussing the concept of free trade, we give them money for their services. Their services are putting on ball games for us to watch. We as a public are willing to pay top dollar to watch their "services." With the exception of building new arenas (which Ron Paul would not find acceptible) the government doesn't force the people to buy these services nor forces the public to pay to watch these games.

Ron Paul's an idiot, he'd probably say something like 95 percent of the black males in the NBA are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

Ray_R
09-28-2009, 04:13 PM
they should make more than nfl rookies

RaiderLakersA's
09-28-2009, 04:40 PM
Looking at the big picture, if the game of basketball is earning billions, then the players deserve a piece of the pie, however large that may be.

AirJordanXVIII
09-28-2009, 04:57 PM
Do they deserve it? No

But like the one person said, they get the team so much money through revenue, they get millions.

Now, I cant justify paying some crappy scrubs 500k though.

BkOriginalOne
09-28-2009, 05:16 PM
Does Kmart deserve the 17 million dollars that he is going to make next season? No.
Considering the amount they make in endorsements plus the perks they recieve in life, they don't.
Derrick Rose is making about 4 mil next season and cheated his way to college and NBA draft eligibility. Most of these guys can retire off less than 3 years of work.

Consider this, every sports player's salaray for 1 year is cut in half, you might be looking at something like half a billion, per year - the money could go to so much more than Big Cars, houses and lawyer fees.

rabzouz 96
09-28-2009, 05:22 PM
if the players dont get, the team owner will get it, for owning the franchise and its players, which is as unearned. id rather have the players have that money.

shep33
09-28-2009, 05:25 PM
absolutely not, teachers, doctors, nurses, all put in tons of work. Some docs work ridiculous hours at hospitals and still won't get a 1/10th of what most nba players get. That being said, i just think all athletes are overpaid, and most spend their money on useless crap. So many athletes go bankrupt after retirement that the money is just wasted on useless crap. That being said, a player who gets paid but distributes his money to the less forturnate, like Hakeem or Dikembe is what an athelete should be about. Man Mutombo put in tens of millions of his own money to build hospitals in the Congo, he's actually improving the health of countless people within his home country. NBA needs more guys willing to help out, and not just for the sake that their publicists tell them to.

Toenail Clipper
09-29-2009, 01:03 AM
Players should donate at least half of their earnings to their struggling relatives back in Africa.

ChiSox219
09-29-2009, 01:34 AM
They deserve ever penny, and the fact that there is a "max" salary is ridiculous.

Who are you to tell someone they don't deserve their salary or how they should spend it?

shen
09-29-2009, 01:50 AM
Honestly they don't deserve how big the contracts have gotten. maybe 3-5 mill for top contract but as much as I love the sport it is not worthy of the contracts they getting. Honestly I don't see anything being worth what they get paid.

todu82
09-29-2009, 04:54 AM
No, too high. I agree they should be paid well but not over 10 million a season like some of these players are making.

phillyphan101
09-29-2009, 10:31 AM
Without the NBA we would have the worlds tallest garbage men

FOBolous
09-29-2009, 11:39 AM
absolutely not, teachers, doctors, nurses, all put in tons of work. Some docs work ridiculous hours at hospitals and still won't get a 1/10th of what most nba players get. That being said, i just think all athletes are overpaid, and most spend their money on useless crap. So many athletes go bankrupt after retirement that the money is just wasted on useless crap. That being said, a player who gets paid but distributes his money to the less forturnate, like Hakeem or Dikembe is what an athelete should be about. Man Mutombo put in tens of millions of his own money to build hospitals in the Congo, he's actually improving the health of countless people within his home country. NBA needs more guys willing to help out, and not just for the sake that their publicists tell them to.

They get paid that much because they generate that much revenue for the team. they're THE source of revenue. without them...the teams wouldn't be able to make money. until those teachers, doctors, and nurses are able to generate the amount of revenue those players generate, they don't deserve to make as much money as an athlete. capitalism plain and simple.

HiphopRelated
09-29-2009, 02:12 PM
absolutely not, teachers, doctors, nurses, all put in tons of work. .


this foolish premise always comes up..


There are far more teachers, doctors, nurses etc. than NBA players. Doctors aren't hurting for money because they're in short supply...nba supply is even shorter.

Ansy
09-29-2009, 04:16 PM
The word "deserve" depends on your belief in capitilism, I suppose. They create a fantastic entertainment industry. I would say they deserve it as much as movie and television stars do, maybe more.

That said, many players are overpaid compared to what they provide for the team, and several are underpaid. LeBron increased the value of the Cavs by hundreds of millions, so $20-million/season seems like small change compared to what he brings to that franchise. On the other hand, fringe all-stars who make near-max money are almost always overpaid. They don't draw fans like big name stars do, and they don't provide wins on a level that justifies their salary.

Alwaysright219
09-29-2009, 04:28 PM
All athletes are overpaid, but its our fault for watching. We as fans make the industry and demand for entertainment. Same with holleywood, if your mad at how much they make don't watch movies. The entertainment world is so big (sports includeded) and fans are so obsessed with it that the demand = the price.

Alwaysright219
09-29-2009, 04:30 PM
Players should donate at least half of their earnings to their struggling relatives back in Africa.

Who are you to tell someone how they should spend their money? Would you send half of YOUR salary to Africa?

MiamiHeat
09-29-2009, 04:30 PM
yes they do
they are making millions more for their team

shen
09-29-2009, 05:30 PM
On the scale of jobs that matter pro athlete about the least important. They should get paid for there time spent away from families and moving things like that but they do not under any circumstance deserve to be paid what they get. It does not matter what they make for the team, soldiers keep there country's safe and keep people (or at least the people they fight for) alive and yet they get paid little, compared to athlete they get paid almost nothing. They should get there worth to society which is a dramatic drop from what they get. Yes they deserve a couple mill for there time and the good times they cause but never anywhere near what they get.

Spurred1
09-29-2009, 05:34 PM
They get paid that much because they generate that much revenue for the team. they're THE source of revenue. without them...the teams wouldn't be able to make money. until those teachers, doctors, and nurses are able to generate the amount of revenue those players generate, they don't deserve to make as much money as an athlete. capitalism plain and simple.

I hope this is something you do not agree with and frankly really sucks. Teachers aren't put into a place where they can generate money for the district. Districts get money through bonds/taxes from the neighborhoods they serve and get additional funds from the state if they qualify as a Title I school or related. Teachers put in a ridiculous amount of time preparing lesson plans, preparing kids for testing, teaching relevant lessons, grading assignments, conducting parent teacher conferences, attending staff/faculty conferences, going to additional training, dealing with discipline problems and sometimes parents that don't give two ***** about their child in any way, shape, or form. Teachers are in no position whatsoever to generate millions of dollars for their schools. It simply does not work that way...
I know that athletes put in a lot of work and time in their jobs and they generate big money for their owners, but I think overall they make way too much money. I prefer the money go to the athlete rather than the owner, but honestly, it seems somewhat flawed...

flea
09-29-2009, 05:42 PM
These kinds of questions are pointless - people are worth as much money as other people are willing to pay them. Since sports are popular athletes make a lot of money.

Nobody can say anything is "too much" unless they are saying either the market is distorted OR sports in general are too popular. Since the market for sports is not distorted to any severe degree, you must be saying that you think sports are too popular. Maybe you think this site should be shut down?

HiphopRelated
09-30-2009, 09:44 AM
http://cbs4.com/heat/heat.miami.dwyane.2.1214135.html


Wade's summer consisted of $150,000 spent on chefs, physical therapists, and Pilates and Yoga instructors – an amount he and former Heat member Alonzo Mourning calculated one day when Wade was hurt during a previous season.

"We both were sitting down in the back and he kind of broke down to me all the people that you need to make sure that you body is right. He broke it down to me number wise and said, 'What's that – $150,000?' Wade said.

"That's a $150,000 investment into your body. At that moment, it kind of hit home to me and let me know you have to take care of your body. This is the engine in the car, and you have to make sure the engine purrs when you get on the road."

GAWDtv
09-30-2009, 11:21 AM
They get paid that much because they generate that much revenue for the team. they're THE source of revenue. without them...the teams wouldn't be able to make money. until those teachers, doctors, and nurses are able to generate the amount of revenue those players generate, they don't deserve to make as much money as an athlete. capitalism plain and simple.

So doesn't that show their is a flaw in the system? If we could improve capitalism, wouldn't adding a little balance of socialism to take care of those teachers, doctors, nurses, social aid providers, foster parents, maybe for volunteers a check in the mail from the NBA or the affiliate prosport the volunteered to coach, maybe pay for coaching and referee credentials and work.

With such a surplus the NBA and NBAPA should work a clause into the next CBA that gives more money directly back to the people that make the community work? They can get huge tax breaks for the league and the players with such an agreement with all their taxable % going directly into these social programs and/or the communities they came from.

But as I said, that's socialism, not capitalism and Not the American way.


The word "deserve" depends on your belief in capitilism, I suppose. They create a fantastic entertainment industry. I would say they deserve it as much as movie and television stars do, maybe more.

That said, many players are overpaid compared to what they provide for the team, and several are underpaid. LeBron increased the value of the Cavs by hundreds of millions, so $20-million/season seems like small change compared to what he brings to that franchise. On the other hand, fringe all-stars who make near-max money are almost always overpaid. They don't draw fans like big name stars do, and they don't provide wins on a level that justifies their salary.

Those fringe players, or role players do have a neccesary job on a team. You need 5 players on the floor at all times, you need subs, at least 3. You need injury reserves and you need practice players as if you don't have 12 guys you cant run a productive practice. NBA makes you carry 13 and 15 is the max therfore you need to pay the fringe bench garbage guys more than the administrators as well.


All athletes are overpaid, but its our fault for watching. We as fans make the industry and demand for entertainment. Same with holleywood, if your mad at how much they make don't watch movies. The entertainment world is so big (sports includeded) and fans are so obsessed with it that the demand = the price.

Good comparison, movie stars, singers, they get paid for what? If this CApitalist Money based econony was NOT, they could make music and art for the Joy and share it for free. If you want to talk obsurd, look at the money BASEBALL players get paid and the only stadium selling out is Yankee. Where do they generate the revenue to pay a guy, 1 guy, $250,000,000 over 10 yrs??


On the scale of jobs that matter pro athlete about the least important. They should get paid for there time spent away from families and moving things like that but they do not under any circumstance deserve to be paid what they get. It does not matter what they make for the team, soldiers keep there country's safe and keep people (or at least the people they fight for) alive and yet they get paid little, compared to athlete they get paid almost nothing. They should get there worth to society which is a dramatic drop from what they get. Yes they deserve a couple mill for there time and the good times they cause but never anywhere near what they get.

SO you feel they should redistribute the wealth, take from the rich and take care of the poor? Are you even American?? You must be Canadian or something no?? That is Socialism, or Ideal communism (read Carl Marx Communist Manifesto) and this is America.


These kinds of questions are pointless - people are worth as much money as other people are willing to pay them. Since sports are popular athletes make a lot of money.

Nobody can say anything is "too much" unless they are saying either the market is distorted OR sports in general are too popular. Since the market for sports is not distorted to any severe degree, you must be saying that you think sports are too popular. Maybe you think this site should be shut down?

Open your mind, I think the consensus is the Capitalist System is distorted. I like the Dream as much as the next guy but the money generated by some industries are in such excess it can be taxed more (As Obama suggests) to bring better balance to the standards of living. If we want to evolve our system of living and socialisation we need to evaluate the system, find the leaks and cracks and the outright broken and fix it. You have to notice (in these recession times when the value of the Capitalist American dollar is based on nothing more than an I owe U) Change to the system is the only way to save the system.

mrmike101
09-30-2009, 11:55 AM
So doesn't that show their is a flaw in the system? If we could improve capitalism, wouldn't adding a little balance of socialism to take care of those teachers, doctors, nurses, social aid providers, foster parents, maybe for volunteers a check in the mail from the NBA or the affiliate prosport the volunteered to coach, maybe pay for coaching and referee credentials and work.

With such a surplus the NBA and NBAPA should work a clause into the next CBA that gives more money directly back to the people that make the community work? They can get huge tax breaks for the league and the players with such an agreement with all their taxable % going directly into these social programs and/or the communities they came from.

But as I said, that's socialism, not capitalism and Not the American way.



Those fringe players, or role players do have a neccesary job on a team. You need 5 players on the floor at all times, you need subs, at least 3. You need injury reserves and you need practice players as if you don't have 12 guys you cant run a productive practice. NBA makes you carry 13 and 15 is the max therfore you need to pay the fringe bench garbage guys more than the administrators as well.



Good comparison, movie stars, singers, they get paid for what? If this CApitalist Money based econony was NOT, they could make music and art for the Joy and share it for free. If you want to talk obsurd, look at the money BASEBALL players get paid and the only stadium selling out is Yankee. Where do they generate the revenue to pay a guy, 1 guy, $250,000,000 over 10 yrs??



SO you feel they should redistribute the wealth, take from the rich and take care of the poor? Are you even American?? You must be Canadian or something no?? That is Socialism, or Ideal communism (read Carl Marx Communist Manifesto) and this is America.



Open your mind, I think the consensus is the Capitalist System is distorted. I like the Dream as much as the next guy but the money generated by some industries are in such excess it can be taxed more (As Obama suggests) to bring better balance to the standards of living. If we want to evolve our system of living and socialisation we need to evaluate the system, find the leaks and cracks and the outright broken and fix it. You have to notice (in these recession times when the value of the Capitalist American dollar is based on nothing more than an I owe U) Change to the system is the only way to save the system.

Man is greedy and imperfect, there is no way to save the system or humanity as a whole. As long as we have free will there will always be some 1 looking to take an advantage, it's human nature. Good argument but this is not the place for it, i am surprised no one has insaulted you yet. Long live capitalism and the american way (sarcassm) what do you expect.

GAWDtv
09-30-2009, 02:12 PM
Man is greedy and imperfect, there is no way to save the system or humanity as a whole. As long as we have free will there will always be some 1 looking to take an advantage, it's human nature. Good argument but this is not the place for it, i am surprised no one has insaulted you yet. Long live capitalism and the american way (sarcassm) what do you expect.

Why should people insult me? The question is do NBA players deserve millions??
I answered YES as they generate billions and deserve a bigger share of the revenues than the owners and administrators.

People went on to comment on a flaw in the system where entertainers generate alot of income, alot more than they really NEED.

The question then became what to do with all the surplus if the players and owners saleries where capped??
Capped income is not the American dream however it seems to be the American way. Capitalism should not have a Cap (no pun intended) on income. The fact their is a clause that stipulates the players get a combined 65% of revenues generated it's all good. If you want to change things then Change must happen.

If NBA players make too much money then so do Ballerinas and Opera singers, Hockey, baseball, tennis players and golfers (Sorry Tiger) singers and actors. The list looms large. Now if we can skim some off the top and re-invest it? They all pay taxes anyways, let that tax dollar % be spent on their communities and or social services that serve those same communities they came out of. The players already pay taxes as does the leagues, it's for the gouvernment to make to tax acceptions and/or exemptions provided it is shown and proven to be properly invested this way.

This would not only improve the cities and inner cities/ghettos/projects, it would improve community relations with their pro franchises they may recipricate by attending more games/events and greater support. Create a positive cycle of growth, improvement and community.

These programs may lead a few more kids down the right path as the path would be larger and better maintained. The parents would want to support these programs if they can envision their child achieving the same goals they share with LeBron or Kobe or even Tiger Woods(maybe he could adopt a ghetto).

This would be great for Basketball, for America (if we creat more ballers than bangers) and for AMericans. Great for the world once copied by all pro sports and entertainment franchises. Think of how great America would then be, if we could turn our worst blemmish into our greatest asset???

bogdanrom
09-30-2009, 02:19 PM
Yes because in return for the millions they make, they bring in even more. If they did not get paid that much then the owners of the teams would make even more.

sofargone
09-30-2009, 02:22 PM
theyre the best in the world at what they do....so yeah

flea
09-30-2009, 06:41 PM
Open your mind, I think the consensus is the Capitalist System is distorted. I like the Dream as much as the next guy but the money generated by some industries are in such excess it can be taxed more (As Obama suggests) to bring better balance to the standards of living. If we want to evolve our system of living and socialisation we need to evaluate the system, find the leaks and cracks and the outright broken and fix it. You have to notice (in these recession times when the value of the Capitalist American dollar is based on nothing more than an I owe U) Change to the system is the only way to save the system.
Open my mind? All I was doing was making a statement of fact, not giving an endorsement of professional sports, laissez-faire capitalism, or anything else.

So instead of arguing with my logic you tell me that I need to believe Obama when he says we can "fix leaks and cracks" in our economy? You're so vague that I have no idea what you're even arguing for, though presumably it's some type of health-care proposal that Obama wants. That's all fine and good but do you realize that you create more market distortions when you start providing false incentives and disincentives?

xxxplicit69
09-30-2009, 07:02 PM
hands down they do. these owners definately make millions exploiting the athletes right?
shoe companies make a ton off of athletes right? look at much nike makes off of jordan shoes. why shouldnt they athletes get a piece of the pie?
aren't these owners like billionaires.
also the nba gets these athletes from tough neighborhoods are poor countries around they world, its coo to see these same people who would be struggling, who have been struggling getting major paper now.

Raidaz4Life
09-30-2009, 07:04 PM
Yes easily, if they are able to be marketed to make millions then they should in turn get payed millions. People fail to see that basketball is just as much of a business as it is a game.

Fool
09-30-2009, 07:18 PM
They make that much money because the teams make enough money that they can afford to give them that much.