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koberulesall
09-09-2009, 05:35 PM
he has already been to the finals 6 times he has won 4, with the addition of artest(if he doesnt attack anyone in the crowd he could really help this team out) if kobe stays injury free and his crazy ***** jump shot keeps getting better I think we will have a good chance of seeing him in the finals for the next 5 or 6 years not in a row either im just saying he has a good chance to make it through these next 5 or 6 seasons what do you guys think??

ps mj fans and lebron fans dont get all weird and butt hurt and think i just posted this to say "kobe is getting more rings than jordan and u dont need to say how much kobe sucks relax its just a question" thats not what im saying i just want to know an honest opinion

bigsams50
09-09-2009, 05:44 PM
i say he wins 1 more at the max, and that will come either this year or next year

NYKnickFanatic
09-09-2009, 05:44 PM
4.

madiaz3
09-09-2009, 05:46 PM
6

Raps18-19 Champ
09-09-2009, 05:46 PM
4-6.

8kobe24
09-09-2009, 05:48 PM
5-7.

5 would be good, 6 would be great, 7 would be excellent. I'm rooting for kobe to surpass mj in championships when it's all said and done.

Raph12
09-09-2009, 05:51 PM
4 is most likely IMO, 5 if he wins it this year, I don't see him winning anymore than that

Bullsfan22
09-09-2009, 06:07 PM
I say with his team being stacked the way it is he can possibly get 5-7 rings. I think he at least gets one more before he retires. Tim duncan and lebron might have something to say about letting kobe win 3 more though...

BkOriginalOne
09-09-2009, 06:09 PM
6 max.
Probably 1 more and maybe even an MVP, who knows.

Shady66
09-09-2009, 06:30 PM
i say 1 more, this year, or next year. But who knows really, just have to wait and see

xBLAMEITON24x
09-09-2009, 06:31 PM
5-7
I see the Lakers being contenders until Kobe retires and favs for atleast the next two yrs maybe more.

Vinny642
09-09-2009, 06:34 PM
4-6, but im going five

bal_ravens
09-09-2009, 06:36 PM
I can see him making the finals twice, winning once. Teams are starting to get stacked big time.

JordansBulls
09-09-2009, 06:47 PM
Probably 1-2 more.

Penetra8r
09-09-2009, 06:51 PM
Probably 1-2 more.

Yes he has lotsa mileage

PLAYERS FAN
09-09-2009, 06:56 PM
three because he has overcome every challenge the critics say he can't do. I guess the new challenge is can he get more rings than Michael?

lakerboy
09-09-2009, 07:02 PM
1 more minimum (so 5). Things might become harder if teams are more stacked by the 2010 summer.

If they dont move, I wouldn't be surprised to see him pass by MJ. After all, MJ started winning his 4th-6th ring in what age?

Reversed86Curse
09-09-2009, 07:09 PM
wow, another Kobe ring thread

GCOOKIE7
09-09-2009, 07:11 PM
0. The Spurs or Cavs got it this year. Orlando the next year. Then Kobe is gonna' demand a trade.

SteveNash
09-09-2009, 07:23 PM
three because he has overcome every challenge the critics say he can't do. I guess the new challenge is can he get more rings than Michael?

They're going to take one of his rings?

I say he'll finish with 8, I can't really see another contender emerging in the near future.

Missing56&33
09-09-2009, 08:01 PM
I would say two more rings a total of 6. He will tie MJ

Chronz
09-09-2009, 08:04 PM
I wonder if Bynums improvements will be enough to offset Kobes decline, if not Pau is still in his prime so the window should remain open even if Kobe isnt the same dominant force he is now.

TheMicrowave
09-09-2009, 08:18 PM
2-3 rings or NONE.

TheMicrowave
09-09-2009, 08:20 PM
I wonder if Bynums improvements will be enough to offset Kobes decline, if not Pau is still in his prime so the window should remain open even if Kobe isnt the same dominant force he is now.

You think Kobe is on the decline right now? I think he is in his prime right now. He has a physical and mental balance that is much better than it was before. He had unreal physical abilities a few years ago, but not enough mental game. Now he has the balance of both. He is more dangerous now than he was before.

mikantsass
09-09-2009, 08:21 PM
I say 1 more, next year

tjp2033
09-09-2009, 08:24 PM
I think it all depends on how long Phil Jackson wants to stay coaching. If they dont win it this year will Phil retire and then Kobe wants out. So if they win this year I say he wins 5 total, if they dont win this year I dont see them winning again without Phil Jackson so he would be stuck at 4 unless he gets trade and wins one down the road. So my answer hinges on Phil Jackson staying or going. If Phil stays around he could very well end up with 6-7.

Lakersfan2483
09-09-2009, 08:32 PM
I think he will win about 2 more rings and finish his career with a total of 6 rings and win 2 more finals mvps, leaving him with 6 titles and 3 finals mvps.

Ironman5219
09-09-2009, 08:35 PM
Too many good teams out there right now in both the east and west. He and the lakers run are done until they steal the next NBA superstar.

AllTheWay
09-09-2009, 08:40 PM
8 =)

iHop
09-09-2009, 08:41 PM
I say he wins 1 or 2 more championships so 5 - 6 rings

kArSoN RyDaH
09-09-2009, 08:44 PM
I say with his team being stacked the way it is he can possibly get 5-7 rings. I think he at least gets one more before he retires. Tim duncan and lebron might have something to say about letting kobe win 3 more though...

tim duncan is gettin old hes not gnna have as much as affect as he wud in the past. and people dont forget how young the lakers are. mj didnt win any nba championships till his 30s and kobe is just entering his 30s so the possibilities are limitless with the squad the lakers have.

sportsfreak475
09-09-2009, 08:49 PM
5, probably this coming season.

MackSnackWrap
09-09-2009, 08:50 PM
6 rings at the most

Diggy_2
09-09-2009, 08:59 PM
i say about 5-7

Lost Art
09-09-2009, 09:06 PM
I think he'll win at least two more......with the age and skill level of the Lakers' makeup, they should be one of the favorites to win the title for the next five years.

.........and if Bynum pans out, maybe even more???

_KB24_
09-09-2009, 09:11 PM
I think the Lakers have a really good chance for the 3-peat, so thats 6. And I see him wininng atleast 1-2 more after that.

I see Kobe finishing his career with 7-8 rings.

Hawkeye15
09-09-2009, 09:15 PM
hopefully 4.

lexworld2009
09-09-2009, 09:16 PM
I'd have to say he at least getting the 2nd 3peat like MJ and maybe a another one after that so I say another 3 at the least unless sum freak accident happens I mean the team is stacked and pretty young except for kobe who is a fitness nut & fish , everyone else is 30 and younger and the when I say younger I'm saying 24 and below so they have room to grow and improve greatly especially Bynum, Farmar & Sasha, and seriously if they win a few say at least the next 2 what big name player won't want to go play in LA for a chance @ a ring , well to shorten my point I say 6-7 total.

Chronz
09-09-2009, 09:20 PM
You think Kobe is on the decline right now? I think he is in his prime right now. He has a physical and mental balance that is much better than it was before. He had unreal physical abilities a few years ago, but not enough mental game. Now he has the balance of both. He is more dangerous now than he was before.
I was assuming he starts declining in a downward trend, but yea hes on the decline in general.

Its a tricky question, he was better this year than the last. Still hes definitely not in his prime anymore, and the state of being your referring to is known as the PHENTAL state, the optimal balance in both mental and physical aspects.

Normally players reach this stage little before entering their 30's, right in time to have a few years of athletic ability left in tank. But Kobe skipping college altogether and learning the NBA game sooner, combined with him being a student of the game and one of its brightest minds served him well in his youth. So much so that the difference in IQ vs Athletic ability isnt overwhelming the way it would be for your average 21-22 year old.

In terms of how those consequences effect him in his 30's is a subject of much deliberation. Do you measure his legs by his age, or by his mileage (Minutes), or neither?


When I say hes on the decline its only because hes removed from his prime, not that he will only go downhill from here on out, for all I know he could remain at this level of play until he retired. Odds are just against that

MrFastBreak
09-09-2009, 09:26 PM
He'll prolly win one more. Then become old and washed up.

lorenz00
09-09-2009, 10:45 PM
6 or more

asandhu23
09-09-2009, 11:50 PM
none he'll lose them all after doing the next year's MVPuppets commercial about " LeBron have you seen my 4 championship rings?" LOL. and LeBron will steal them

Wilson
09-09-2009, 11:58 PM
With the team the way it is now, the Lakers are serious contenders this year and next year. After that, I'd expect Kobe and Pau to start slowing down, in which case it all depends on how youngsters (mainly Bynum) come along, and what veterens can be added.

rsweene
09-09-2009, 11:59 PM
Ill bet ANYONE $1,000,000 he will retire with AT LEAST 4

ko8e24
09-10-2009, 12:01 AM
8

2010, 2011, 2012, 2016


In 2016, he'll win his 8th title and retire.

20 seasons, 10 trips to the finals, 8 nba titles. I guess that would be an "okay" career, and i guess it'd be kool to match his first jersey number of #8 :)

Robbie7138
09-10-2009, 12:01 AM
1 more..Tops.

Toenail Clipper
09-10-2009, 12:02 AM
I say 4-6.
Lakers should have a balance of good players, both young and old.
They're getting old and they need to steal a superstar in 2010 free agency by trading away Sasha and Luke.

NYY NYJ NYK
09-10-2009, 12:08 AM
I can see 5. Maybe 6

effen5
09-10-2009, 12:20 AM
I bet Phil retires after next year....so 4

asandhu23
09-10-2009, 12:28 AM
Ill bet ANYONE $1,000,000 he will retire with AT LEAST 4

first you gotta have 1 million dollars

KobeIs
09-10-2009, 12:29 AM
i think he can win one more.

but as a basketball fan, i'd like to see him surpass mj

shep33
09-10-2009, 12:44 AM
i think he can get 6. People gotta remember that the lakers are still farely young, i mean their team age average is 26. Bynum is only 22, and i think he's gonna develop into a solid big man. The guy was putting up unbelievable numbers during the month of his injury. Cetlics are getting old, Cleveland might have shaq for only 1 year, Orlando is a wildcard. Only team i really see maybe getting in the way down the road is Portland. Furthermore, the lakers won the championship last year with some weak D, they gave up 100 points a game last year, which is pretty terrible. Chicago, Utah and Denver, are the only other playoff teams to give up that many points per. So with some improved team D, hopefully from Ron Ron i think this team can win 2 out of the next 3 rings

koberulesall
09-10-2009, 12:49 AM
8

2010, 2011, 2012, 2016


In 2016, he'll win his 8th title and retire.

20 seasons, 10 trips to the finals, 8 nba titles. I guess that would be an "okay" career, and i guess it'd be kool to match his first jersey number of #8 :)

that would be sweeeeeeeeeeeet!:clap:

_KB24_
09-10-2009, 12:54 AM
He'll prolly win one more. Then become old and washed up.


We're talking about Kobe, not your one-shot wonder Kings

rsweene
09-10-2009, 01:14 AM
first you gotta have 1 million dollars

I have an 850,000 insurance bond that matures in 2099.

Red222
09-10-2009, 01:17 AM
5

ko8e24
09-10-2009, 01:31 AM
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We're talking about Kobe, not your one-shot wonder Kings

:laugh:

asandhu23
09-10-2009, 01:49 AM
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We're talking about Kobe, not your one-shot wonder Kings

hey come on now. you really want to bring up the 2002 Kings versus Lakers WCF topic back up?

TannerOwnsDevin
09-10-2009, 02:05 AM
6 Rings. With 2 of them being the main man on those championship teams. I think the last ring he'll get. he'll be the second best player on that team. Im expecting Bynum to take over the Lakers 2 yrs from now.


So basically, he'll have 4 rings as a sidekick and 2 as the main man.

Bleeds Blue
09-10-2009, 02:26 AM
the lakers should be considered the favorites or the 2nd best for the next 3 years. i'd say 1 more for sure but any more will depend greatly on bynum

prash
09-10-2009, 02:29 AM
This thread is pointless. He's already won his last title. That's it. 4.

DreamShaker
09-10-2009, 02:31 AM
He may win another...I don't see the Artest thing going well though...

Lone Maverick
09-10-2009, 02:43 AM
I'd say 5 maybe 6.

Wilson
09-10-2009, 02:54 AM
He may win another...I don't see the Artest thing going well though...

I've not seen you around the forums in aaaaaaaages...

I can see the Artest thing going either way. I wouldn't be suprised if he acts up and splits the locker room in half, or if he becomes the physical, intimidating presence we've lacked recently. It should at least be an action-filled season :p

LakersIn5
09-10-2009, 08:15 AM
7 nba rings 2 wedding rings

#1Mavericksfan
09-10-2009, 08:21 AM
1 more ring and I said 1 more because there's no way David Stern is gonna let Kobe surpass Jordan.

king4day
09-10-2009, 10:02 AM
He has a good chance to get two more, but I'll keep saying it....they need to add to that bench.

Ace33Bone
09-10-2009, 10:02 AM
4-6

koberulesall
09-10-2009, 11:52 AM
1 more ring and I said 1 more because there's no way David Stern is gonna let Kobe surpass Jordan:clap::clap::clap:.

this is a very good point alot of games are ruled by the refs mav fans should know because thoughs same refs took your NBA title away

op12
09-10-2009, 11:57 AM
at least 1 more maybe 2 depending on situations. i think the cavs, celtics, magic, and spurs will have something to say about it this year. i dont see them repeating but maybe a bounce back in 2011 or 12. hopefully not though.

lakerssssssss
09-10-2009, 12:10 PM
7

lakerssssssss
09-10-2009, 12:14 PM
This thread is pointless. He's already won his last title. That's it. 4.
when he wins this year, u will be wishing u never said that

madiaz3
09-10-2009, 12:18 PM
7 nba rings 2 wedding rings

:clap:

ko8e24
09-10-2009, 12:20 PM
This thread is pointless. He's already won his last title. That's it. 4.

Discussing the Rockets chances of making it to the playoffs and gettting out of the 1st round again is pointless. They already got out of the 1st round last season. That's it. Once.

ko8e24
09-10-2009, 12:22 PM
7 nba rings 2 wedding rings

:laugh:

GREATNESS ONE
09-10-2009, 12:22 PM
at least 1 more maybe 2 depending on situations. i think the cavs, celtics, magic, and spurs will have something to say about it this year. i dont see them repeating but maybe a bounce back in 2011 or 12. hopefully not though.

I see your point.

It is all up to how this year plays out. Obviously Kobe has plenty of talent around him for the the next 4-5 years. So I say if he wins it this year and adds Back to Back to his resume.

A Artest, Odom,Gasol,Bynum is a great way to go for 3

azkarraga
09-10-2009, 12:22 PM
1 more. And it's got to be this year. Neither Gasol nor Artest are good enough to take them to the finals with a declining kobe

PrettyBoyJ
09-10-2009, 12:27 PM
I say 7.. Jus cuz Phil Jackson won all his championships in 3 peats... And Kobe Is still the Best Player in the league and The Lakers Upgraded from last year team.. and will prob upgrade every year from now..

knickfan4life
09-10-2009, 12:28 PM
I say 7 also, because I think he chose number 24 to be one over MJ and will do everything in his power to outdo MJ in the number of rings he gets

Super.
09-10-2009, 12:35 PM
Lakers forum. Enough with the Kobe crap already.

azkarraga
09-10-2009, 12:39 PM
Lakers forum. Enough with the Kobe crap already.

i agree

asandhu23
09-10-2009, 01:02 PM
this is a very good point alot of games are ruled by the refs mav fans should know because thoughs same refs took your NBA title away

very good point. the 2002 kings fan will certainly agree to that. ;)

Zefflin
09-10-2009, 01:20 PM
The Lakers will do something that has only been done once. (im actually not sure at all) The 4-peat. As Chroz said Kobe has reached the undertaker state and could possibly play this way for the rest of his career. I know he'll be Top 3-5 best in the league for at least another 5 years. Kobe said himself barring injury he sees himself playing till he's almost 40. Pau, Kobe, Ron, LO, Bynum, and of coarse Luke all basically have 3 years left on their contracts so I can them easily win the next 3 years, making that 4 in a row. Mr. Bryant wants to win until he retires.

DreamShaker
09-10-2009, 01:22 PM
I've not seen you around the forums in aaaaaaaages...

I can see the Artest thing going either way. I wouldn't be suprised if he acts up and splits the locker room in half, or if he becomes the physical, intimidating presence we've lacked recently. It should at least be an action-filled season :p

Haha yeah I am on vacation but I don't really use the internet any more cept on my phone...so PSD really doesn't get there well haha...but I just fear for his offensive tendencies...he has never played with a strong wing scorer before...unless you count washed up Reggie or young K-Mart...but even with K-Mart he whined about not being a big enough part of the offense...Artest can kill your offense on any given night...because he doesn't know how to play to his strengths...when he sets his fett...he is a knock down 3 point-shooter...but he has the tendency to dribble a few times and then throw up these ugly prayers that fall flat every time...and he is a monster in the post...nobody is strong enough to hold that guy in the post...but he never goes to that well enough...and with Odom, Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and Kobe all able to post up...where does Artest fit in? They need his defense and shooting but I don't know if he's mentally disciplined enough to give that without chucking up bad shots and ruining the crisp offense that won the Lakers the championship...honestly I think Ariza was a better fit than Artest...

effen5
09-10-2009, 01:23 PM
I say 7.. Jus cuz Phil Jackson won all his championships in 3 peats... And Kobe Is still the Best Player in the league and The Lakers Upgraded from last year team.. and will prob upgrade every year from now..

And what if Phil retires after next year which is absolutely possible since he doesn't even want to go on road games anymore....

I think Kobe stay at 4, and Phil retires.

koberulesall
09-10-2009, 01:24 PM
very good point. the 2002 kings fan will certainly agree to that. ;)

:facepalm: that was different nobody wants to see vlade win an nba title not even when he was on the lakers hahahaha

koberulesall
09-10-2009, 01:26 PM
i agree

if you dont care then dont hate dont write

ya_boi
09-10-2009, 01:30 PM
He got one or two more rings in his future.

Wilson
09-10-2009, 01:47 PM
Haha yeah I am on vacation but I don't really use the internet any more cept on my phone...so PSD really doesn't get there well haha...but I just fear for his offensive tendencies...he has never played with a strong wing scorer before...unless you count washed up Reggie or young K-Mart...but even with K-Mart he whined about not being a big enough part of the offense...Artest can kill your offense on any given night...because he doesn't know how to play to his strengths...when he sets his fett...he is a knock down 3 point-shooter...but he has the tendency to dribble a few times and then throw up these ugly prayers that fall flat every time...and he is a monster in the post...nobody is strong enough to hold that guy in the post...but he never goes to that well enough...and with Odom, Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and Kobe all able to post up...where does Artest fit in? They need his defense and shooting but I don't know if he's mentally disciplined enough to give that without chucking up bad shots and ruining the crisp offense that won the Lakers the championship...honestly I think Ariza was a better fit than Artest...

I really liked Ariza as well. He was getting better and better all season before exploding in the play-offs, and still has youth on his side.

All good points about Artest, I'm just hoping that the winning will help him settle down. He said that he could have gotten more money somewhere else, but he wants to win a championship and play with his buddy Lamar. It was definately a risky move to bring Artest in, but being in an environment with guys like Kobe, Fisher and Phil Jackson, who bring a ton of leadership could help to keep Artest level headed.

I'm hoping the Lakers will look to rest Kobe and Pau more during the regular season as well, which could mean more line-ups where Artest and Bynum are the focal points of the offense. Which could help to fill any hunger Artest has for offensive opportunities.

Like I said before though, I'm ready for anything :p

GREATNESS ONE
09-10-2009, 01:47 PM
Haha yeah I am on vacation but I don't really use the internet any more cept on my phone...so PSD really doesn't get there well haha...but I just fear for his offensive tendencies...he has never played with a strong wing scorer before...unless you count washed up Reggie or young K-Mart...but even with K-Mart he whined about not being a big enough part of the offense...Artest can kill your offense on any given night...because he doesn't know how to play to his strengths...when he sets his fett...he is a knock down 3 point-shooter...but he has the tendency to dribble a few times and then throw up these ugly prayers that fall flat every time...and he is a monster in the post...nobody is strong enough to hold that guy in the post...but he never goes to that well enough...and with Odom, Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and Kobe all able to post up...where does Artest fit in? They need his defense and shooting but I don't know if he's mentally disciplined enough to give that without chucking up bad shots and ruining the crisp offense that won the Lakers the championship...honestly I think Ariza was a better fit than Artest...

Agreed. I think one thing you have to look at to show a good sign is the contract Artest signed to just become a Laker. I think Artest is Obviously sending a message that he is here for the ride and will do whatever he can too assist Mr. Bryant to win another.

Pierzynski4Prez
09-10-2009, 01:51 PM
If lakers don't win it this year, I see Phil retiring, and I see the end of Kobe's title runs, at least as the 1st option on a team.

A lot of you need to relax with all this Kobe non-sense. He only won 4 because he had Shaq for 3 years, and then it took another half decade and 2-3 other all stars on his team with him to win, not to mention an injured KG.

Kobe's had talent around him for years, and if it weren't for KG going down, he still probably wouldn't have won. So we need to get over this, Kobe's going to win 6, 7, 8 titles. You sound so blindly homerific. He is a good player, but no matter how many titles, he will not be recognized as the best ever. Why? Because many of us were able to see MJ play in his prime, and Kobe, and it's not even close. After Shaq left, it took 3 years for Kobe to take his team above 50 wins. MJ could win 50 games being the only player on the court for his team for a full season.

CQSox305
09-10-2009, 02:07 PM
Hopefully less than MJ!

AIMelo=KillaDUO
09-10-2009, 02:18 PM
5

Coming up just short of MJ... as he always does :)