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DenButsu
08-26-2009, 08:27 PM
Sources: NBA, refs far from deal
By Marc Stein

The NBA's current contract with its 60-odd referees runs out next week and the sides appear to be far apart on a new deal, according to sources with knowledge of the negotiations.

Sept. 1 is the expiration date of the current five-year pact. One source told ESPN.com on Tuesday that -- with the league proposing an across-the-board reduction to the referee budget of an estimated 10 percent -- the impasse might not be resolved before the start the 2009-10 season.

As of "right now," according to the source, existing NBA referees "will not be working preseason [or the] regular season."

Another source with knowledge of the talks, however, countered by questioning the referees' willingness to hold out in a depressed economy if it reaches the point that the league threatens to impose a lockout.

The source added that one motivation for the NBA digging in could be demonstrating the hard-line approach that some owners favor in collective-bargaining talks with NBA players that began earlier this month. The NBA's labor pact with its players expires after the 2010-11 season, but the sides have opened negotiations much earlier than normal in a bow to an economic climate that has prompted numerous teams to curtail spending.

"Negotiations are ongoing," NBA spokesman Tim Frank said Tuesday of the league's talks with its referees. "We do not plan to comment during the negotiations."

Lamell McMorris, spokesman for the referees' union, declined comment Tuesday.

It was not immediately clear what sort of contingency plans would be triggered if the league and the officials can't strike a deal in time for the start of the exhibition season in October.

Aspiring NBA officials were observed and trained as normal by veteran refs during summer league play in July in Orlando and Las Vegas, but the league's annual training camp for its veterans -- typically held during the third week in September -- appears to be in jeopardy with no agreement in place.

The proposed cuts to the referee budget are believed to include reductions in travel costs, pension payouts and health benefits in addition to salary cuts.

Sources say that the referees have argued against the sort of budget cuts widely imposed on team and league office staff members by insisting the late hours they work and difficult travel conditions they endure in addition to the injury risks they're subjected to make them unlike any other group of NBA employees.espn (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4422452)

Raps08-09 Champ
08-26-2009, 08:42 PM
No chance I wait a couple more months till the season starts.

2_Trill
08-26-2009, 09:55 PM
interesting...

Lakerfrk
08-26-2009, 10:26 PM
This is really really sad.... This better not effect anything.

Wilson
08-26-2009, 11:28 PM
Let's give the players a shot at calling their own fouls, it couldn't be that much worse...:p

Raps08-09 Champ
08-26-2009, 11:30 PM
They should have a contest that fans can ref game.

Lebron, Kobe and Wade average 50 PPG.

Draco
08-26-2009, 11:36 PM
September 1st is just days away and it’s also when the NBA current contract with the National Basketball Referees Association expires. The two sides are far from reaching an agreement and that could force the league to start preseason and possibly the regular season with replacement referees. The two sides are so far apart is because the league is seeking a 10 percent reduction to their referee budget across the board.

The quality of NBA officiating has long been a hot topic with basketball fans, and the perception that the league is pinching pennies instead of investing for improvement is the smartest message the league can send, Tim Donaghy’s name still resonating on peoples minds. The NBA’s referees are not perfect, but they’re obliviously better than referees in the collegiate and high school ranks.

If replacement referees sounds like a drastic measure, realize that it wouldn’t be the first time the NBA has taken such a hard-line approach. Replacements have been used during labor disputes several times over the last few decades, including most recently in 1995, when the regular referees didn’t take the floor until well into December.

Whatever the solution is to improving officiating, it will require a greater investment by the NBA, not a smaller one.
http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/2009/08/26/nba-to-use-replacement-referees/

Jay22Redd
08-27-2009, 12:11 AM
wtf

clutchski
08-27-2009, 12:20 AM
I dunno any group of workers won't want a pay cut, they'll probably hold out until the league gives in..stupid though the reffing isn't the greatest.

DenButsu
08-27-2009, 12:27 AM
I wonder who the fans would hate more, the regular refs or replacement refs? Part of me feels like they - at times, at least - probably couldn't do much worse by the replacements.

On the other hand, I do think the league should pay them well. They are an integral part of the game, and the NBA needs to disincentivize the officials going the route of Tim Donaghy - who is in jail again, by the way (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4420908).

asandhu23
08-27-2009, 12:30 AM
Go September 1st ( Happy Birthday to me)

clutchski
08-27-2009, 12:30 AM
I wonder who the fans would hate more, the regular refs or replacement refs? Part of me feels like they - at times, at least - probably couldn't do much worse by the replacements.

On the other hand, I do think the league should pay them well. They are an integral part of the game, and the NBA needs to disincentivize the officials going the route of Tim Donaghy - who is in jail again, by the way (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4420908).

nice link...where does he work?

DenButsu
08-27-2009, 12:36 AM
No idea.