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JordansBulls
08-26-2009, 12:13 PM
Orlando Magic Have Homecourt Advantage in this Series


EASTERN FINALS

Orlando vs. Toronto
Winner: Vote here!

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Each poll will have a voting time of 7 days. This applies to each matchup until an NBA Champion has been determined.


SEMIFINALS

Boston vs. Toronto
Winner: Toronto, 4-3 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399414)

Orlando vs. Cleveland
Winner: Orlando, 4-2 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399411)


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FIRST ROUND

Boston vs. Chicago
Winner: Boston, 4-1 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398255)

Toronto vs. Atlanta
Winner: Toronto, 4-2 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398261)



Orlando vs. Miami
Winner: Orlando, 4-1 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398259)

Cleveland vs. Washington
Winner: Cleveland, 4-1 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398258)



The total of votes for each team will be counted (all 4 options together) and the team with the higher total wins. Eventually, the result will be the option with the most votes (out of 4 options) of the team that has the most votes altogether.



Example:

If the option which has been voted most out of all 8 in the poll is "New York in 6" (20 votes), it doesn't necessarily mean that New York has won. If New York has 50 votes (New York in 4, 5, 6 & 7 altogether), but Charlotte has 55 votes (Charlotte in 4, 5, 6 & 7 altogether), Charlotte is the winner, although it didn't have the most votes in any of its 4 single options. The option with the most votes of the winner (Charlotte) is the final result.

Let's say:
New York in 4 = 10 votes
New York in 5 = 5 votes
New York in 6 = 20 votes
New York in 7 = 15 votes
Total = 50 votes

Now lets say Charlotte has
Charlotte in 4 = 12
Charlotte in 5 = 13
Charlotte in 6 = 17
Charlotte in 7 = 13
Total = 55 votes
The winner would be Charlotte in 6 since they would have the most votes total overall and thus the option for them that was voted the most is Charlotte in 6 would become the final result.


EASTERN CONFERENCE - Regular Season

Click the team name for poll results. The 8 best records in each conference have been determined. According to league rules, the seedings are as follows

(1) Boston (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395762) - Atlantic Division
(2) Orlando (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=396028) - Southeast Division
(3) Cleveland (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=396442) - Central Division
(4) Toronto (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=396538) - Atlantic Division
(5) Atlanta (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397088) - Southeast Division
(6) Washington (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397452) - Southeast Division
(7) Miami (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397715) - Southeast Division
(8) Chicago (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398005) - Central Division


NOTE: Don't put this in your teams forum with a link to it or you are disqualified.

jsumadchat
08-26-2009, 12:16 PM
orl in five

jackyyy
08-26-2009, 12:30 PM
doubt toronto would make it to the ECF in reality. but if this were to happen


ORL sweep

Jays Claw
08-26-2009, 12:32 PM
The Toronto Raptors shouldn't have made it to this round. :pity:

Jays Claw
08-26-2009, 12:32 PM
I picked the Orlando Magic to win this series in five games.

nbaguy123
08-26-2009, 12:39 PM
the raptors tend to play well against orlando, but orlando in 6 or 7

Raps08-09 Champ
08-26-2009, 12:40 PM
:laugh:

I can't believe you actually brought them here. You know over half the people who voted for the Raptors just wanted to mess around with the other fans.

Raps08-09 Champ
08-26-2009, 12:45 PM
I'm gonna vote Raptors only because of the fact that I want to all these people get worked up over nothing.

Jays Claw
08-26-2009, 12:49 PM
There are already two votes for the Toronto Raptors to win this series in seven games. :pity:

ManRam
08-26-2009, 01:01 PM
I voted the Magic. They are easily the better team.

However, there is no way that neither Boston nor Cleveland will miss the ECF. Both of those two would squash the Raptors.

lakers4sho
08-26-2009, 01:03 PM
Raptors making it this far...

:facepalm:

Raps08-09 Champ
08-26-2009, 01:04 PM
I don't even think either of these teams make the ECF to be honest.

Raph12
08-26-2009, 01:11 PM
Orlando in 5 max, but doubt we'll win the poll

Raps08-09 Champ
08-26-2009, 01:20 PM
Orlando in 5 max, but doubt we'll win the poll

What did I tell you about putting pictures of my girl on your sig.

still1ballin
08-26-2009, 01:21 PM
What a joke....Magic in 4

Reddd
08-26-2009, 01:41 PM
Even If Magic was down in the series 0:3, I'd still go with Magic

MTar786
08-26-2009, 02:00 PM
magic in 4

Now for the REAL ECF. i say boston in 7 in an AMAZING series. i see boston having HCA. if orlando has it it would be muh tougher for boston.. but i still see boston getting back to the finals. this season will have the best ECF, WCF and NBA finals combo in history IMO

Tdots-Guido
08-26-2009, 02:20 PM
Hedo is going to be the reason why we beat Orlando! EAT IT OTTIS!

jrice9
08-26-2009, 02:30 PM
Raps in 7 to mess with the NBA forum lol

Ace33Bone
08-26-2009, 02:32 PM
There is no way that Toronto should even make it this far... I mean this is clearly homer picks at its finest... With that being said Orl in 5

Ace33Bone
08-26-2009, 02:33 PM
BTW they Toronto is going to win the championship if this voting keeps taking place

Tdots-Guido
08-26-2009, 02:44 PM
LMAO i will laugh so much if we win the championship!
I can see all the haters now!

Panzer133
08-26-2009, 02:48 PM
I love the Raps but seriously? Orlando in 6, just for the sake of it

dhalvarez
08-26-2009, 02:53 PM
I know that everyone is knocking Toronto, but apart from that I don't see Orlando being as good as last year, and I think that Toronto would match up better with Orlando then Boston.

Not that I think that Toronto can beat Boston, but I wouldn't bet all my money on Orlando to go back to the Eastern Finals.

..but we'll see.

IversonIsKrazy
08-26-2009, 03:09 PM
Magic in 5/6. Bosh always plays career games against him. I still cant believe Raps made it this far. Honestly, i dont c either of these teams making the ECF.

torontosports10
08-26-2009, 03:17 PM
Vote us into the Finals so us and the Lakers can have a homer derby. Cause us being in here thats clearly what it is.


Wouldnt it be funny tho say Lebron and KG both have big injuries this year and Toronto does make it this far somehow. It would make us all look like geninus'.

smith&wesson
08-26-2009, 03:18 PM
Orlando in 5 max, but doubt we'll win the poll

Im having a hard time remembering what this thread is about. who is that chick in your sig homie. god dam.

Jays Claw
08-26-2009, 03:21 PM
Why aren't the voting polls for this round public?

Antbanks21
08-26-2009, 03:33 PM
I should have voted orlando in 4...I don't know what I was thinking voting orlando in 5 lol

jimbobjarree
08-26-2009, 03:35 PM
Magic in 4

this thread...:facepalm:

*Superman*
08-26-2009, 03:36 PM
Haha, wow.

Raph12
08-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Hedo is going to be the reason why we beat Orlando! EAT IT OTTIS!

LMAO, maybe in the season buds (with Dwight, Carter, Lewis and Nelson out :D), you won't get to play the Magic in the playoffs, unless you finish 7th/8th in which case the Magic will gladly eliminate your so-called "great" team in 4 games, 5 if they feel bad for Turk

AntiG
08-26-2009, 03:52 PM
i have decided to by like the Toronto homers last round and vote for Toronto for the rest of these mock playoffs. yayz!!!

GCOOKIE7
08-26-2009, 04:01 PM
Wow Orlando is up by a lot... so many homers :facepalm:

Raph12
08-26-2009, 04:22 PM
Wow Orlando is up by a lot... so many homers :facepalm:

Lmao now that was a good one... if anything they aren't up by enough, don't worry the 200 Raps homers will come rushing in to save the day

bigsams50
08-26-2009, 04:28 PM
Wow Orlando is up by a lot... so many homers :facepalm:

orlando is actually good. thts y people vote for them.

JWO35
08-26-2009, 04:29 PM
It's completely asinine to think the Raptors will make it this far...but I must admit its pretty funny

MTar786
08-26-2009, 04:40 PM
raptors fans are losers lol

Lakersfan2483
08-26-2009, 04:40 PM
So, the Raptors are better than both Boston and Cleveland, you have to be kidding me? I can't believe people picked the Raptors to advance past the Celtics?

Sportfan
08-26-2009, 04:41 PM
I love how the raptors arent getting as many votes as in the the last round now that the poll is public :eyebrow:

Buckwheat
08-26-2009, 04:45 PM
I love how the raptors arent getting as many votes as in the the last round now that the poll is public :eyebrow:

oh mai gawd. mai e-frendz will b mad at me!!!1111!!!

ARMIN12NBA
08-26-2009, 04:46 PM
:laugh: This is such ********. A Magic v. Celtics debate would have been a fantastic and compelling debate...

Magic v. Raptors? WTF? I'm not even going to vote for that.

Lakersfan2483
08-26-2009, 04:51 PM
:laugh: This is such ********. A Magic v. Celtics debate would have been a fantastic and compelling debate...

Magic v. Raptors? WTF? I'm not even going to vote for that.

Agree, it's absolute nonsense to think that people actually voted for the Raptors over the Celtics.

Jays Claw
08-26-2009, 05:04 PM
I voted for the Orlando Magic to win in five games as you can see.

Tommyh1331
08-26-2009, 05:13 PM
Orlando in 5 easily

jrice9
08-26-2009, 05:28 PM
Voted for the Raptors to **** with people

Jays Claw
08-26-2009, 05:58 PM
I am really disappointed with my fellow fans of the Toronto Raptors.

mitch91
08-26-2009, 06:03 PM
magic in 6

tland22
08-26-2009, 06:24 PM
TOR wont make the playoffs even....just saying

Jays Claw
08-26-2009, 06:40 PM
^ Care to explain on why they won't make the playoffs?

Gibby
08-26-2009, 06:53 PM
Orl in 6.

B.JenningsMVP
08-26-2009, 06:56 PM
Are.. You.. Serious.....

this is a joke.. Raptors??? should be Celtics vs Magic

but w/e.. Magic in 1 :D

Raps08-09 Champ
08-26-2009, 09:03 PM
You know the only reason people voted for the Raptors is because you called them homers. I mean we all know that those teams are better than us but they decided to vote for the Raptors is because you called them homers.

rapswin98
08-26-2009, 09:13 PM
this is ****ed up

Raptors Lakers finals???

marvILLous
08-26-2009, 10:45 PM
lets go raptors!!! hahaha

GCOOKIE7
08-27-2009, 12:21 AM
So many ppl get their feelings hurt from this stuff.

CB4MVP-raptors
08-27-2009, 03:45 AM
What a JOKE!!!
IF we face them
Raps would crush Orlando!!!!
Turkulu>carter
BOSH WILL EAT AND BAKE THE **** OUT RESHAHRD LEWIS
Jose's toooooooooooooo good for nelson.
My man Derozan will jump over Petrius
The only threat orl have is howard but as they say one guy cant win you championships these years.


I SAY THE TORONTO RAPTORS IN 5-6 GAMES

ARMIN12NBA
08-27-2009, 03:47 AM
You know the only reason people voted for the Raptors is because you called them homers. I mean we all know that those teams are better than us but they decided to vote for the Raptors is because you called them homers.

That makes no sense...So because people were called homers, they got their feelings hurt and decided to act like super homers? I hardly believe that.

CB4MVP-raptors
08-27-2009, 03:49 AM
I dont know why people are so hyped over orlando
THEY GOT WORSE!!!!!!!!!!
losing there key playmaker to a HOG in carter is shamefull.
IF FEEL SORRY FOR MAGICS FANS.
just because u got lucky last year doesn't mean that u r gonna upset again
Face it there are better teams i the east now etc. Celtics,CAVS,Raps,Atlanta

CB4MVP-raptors
08-27-2009, 03:51 AM
I know the raps aren't gonna win the championships or anything but they r certanly better or atleast match up to orlando's level.

CB4MVP-raptors
08-27-2009, 03:54 AM
[QUOTE=ARMIN12NBA;10668094]That makes no sense...So because people were called homers, they got their feelings hurt and decided to act like super homers? I hardly believe that.[/QUOTE


I hate how people say orlando is better then raps.
LAST YEAR WE BEAT THEM ONCE WITHOUT J.O. OR JOSE .
i mean if they had trouble beating us last year they r not going to stand a chance against the new raps squad

SeoulBeatz
08-27-2009, 04:00 AM
[QUOTE=ARMIN12NBA;10668094]That makes no sense...So because people were called homers, they got their feelings hurt and decided to act like super homers? I hardly believe that.[/QUOTE


I hate how people say orlando is better then raps.
LAST YEAR WE BEAT THEM ONCE WITHOUT J.O. OR JOSE .
i mean if they had trouble beating us last year they r not going to stand a chance against the new raps squad

that is a terrible argument.

the sixers beat orlando twice in the playoffs without elton brand and an injured thaddeus young.

does that mean we are better than the magic?


**** no.

one game doesnt prove ****, Orlando is better, stop being a homer.

LAKERMANIA
08-27-2009, 04:33 AM
Orlando and Toronto? This is the Eastern Conference finals? :pity:

Saint Brian
08-27-2009, 06:11 AM
Magic in five games.

Mavrix
08-27-2009, 06:30 AM
I don't even think Toronto will make the playoffs and if they do they're a 7th or 8th seed.

j-mart
08-27-2009, 09:16 AM
I don't even think Toronto will make the playoffs and if they do they're a 7th or 8th seed.

I think you're confusing the Raptors with the Mavericks.

Mikeleafs
08-27-2009, 09:36 AM
Im picking the Raptors here... win in 7 games. I think we match up really well against the Magic. (However, I did say they'ld lose to the Celtics in 6 so they shouldnt have even made it this far...)

Calderon > Nelson
DeRozan << Carter
Turk >> Peitrus
Bosh > Lewis
Bargs << Dwight

pebloemer
08-27-2009, 10:10 AM
I hate how people say orlando is better then raps.
LAST YEAR WE BEAT THEM ONCE WITHOUT J.O. OR JOSE .
i mean if they had trouble beating us last year they r not going to stand a chance against the new raps squad


What a JOKE!!!
IF we face them
Raps would crush Orlando!!!!
Turkulu>carter
BOSH WILL EAT AND BAKE THE **** OUT RESHAHRD LEWIS
Jose's toooooooooooooo good for nelson.
My man Derozan will jump over Petrius
The only threat orl have is howard but as they say one guy cant win you championships these years.


I SAY THE TORONTO RAPTORS IN 5-6 GAMES


I dont know why people are so hyped over orlando
THEY GOT WORSE!!!!!!!!!!
losing there key playmaker to a HOG in carter is shamefull.
IF FEEL SORRY FOR MAGICS FANS.
just because u got lucky last year doesn't mean that u r gonna upset again
Face it there are better teams i the east now etc. Celtics,CAVS,Raps,Atlanta


I know the raps aren't gonna win the championships or anything but they r certanly better or atleast match up to orlando's level.

4 out of your 6 posts happened all in a row? Join PSD to spew nonsense?

Ace33Bone
08-27-2009, 10:27 AM
I think the Raptors are good but come on now... the ECF no way... I dont even have them escaping the first round if they meet Atlanta... but deep down i do wanna see a LAkers vs Raptors Finals just for the sake of PSD to see the homers have it out

pebloemer
08-27-2009, 10:32 AM
Im picking the Raptors here... win in 7 games. I think we match up really well against the Magic. (However, I did say they'ld lose to the Celtics in 6 so they shouldnt have even made it this far...)

Calderon > Nelson
DeRozan << Carter
Turk >> Peitrus
Bosh > Lewis
Bargs << Dwight

The Calderon/Nelson comparison is VERY arguable. Nelson has had the better of Calderon in head to head matchups (which is very relevant here), and Nelson can certainly be considered the better point guard - his most recent year was far better than Jose's this year, or even better than Jose when he was healthy. He was an all star selection for a reason.

Slaps
08-27-2009, 10:33 AM
Orlando and Toronto? This is the Eastern Conference finals? :pity:
Yeah it's really sad. Orlando/Cavs vrs Celtics would have been what I would have gone with.

However in the unlikely chance Raps make it to the finals I would see them getting dominated by the Magic, so 4 games and bye bye.

LakePackYank
08-27-2009, 11:47 AM
Magic in 4. Raptors fans are such a disgrace. But At least magic are killing them here

raptors3589
08-27-2009, 02:05 PM
Magic in 4. Raptors fans are such a disgrace.

What we're a disgrace because we believe in our team and think that they are too good to be swept by the magic? Come on

Raph12
08-27-2009, 02:28 PM
Magic in 4. Raptors fans are such a disgrace. But At least magic are killing them here

Yes but you forget that the Raps had 190+ votes last round, the longer we wait, the more homers will arrive

CB4AB7VC15
08-27-2009, 02:30 PM
Orl in 5 or 6..... celts, cavs, orl, hawks, wiz are all better than us. Now theres 3 spots left between pistons, bulls (what if they get boozer), heat ( what if they get boozer), philly, bobcats ( if the sigh AI) and us. Therefore we'll be lucky to get into the playoffs.

Raph12
08-27-2009, 02:37 PM
4 out of your 6 posts happened all in a row? Join PSD to spew nonsense?

Guy don't worry, the man's name is "CB4MVP" who will take him seriously?

Mavrix
08-27-2009, 03:07 PM
I think you're confusing the Raptors with the Mavericks.Raptors are horrible, Mavericks are 3rd in the west but good try.

todu82
08-27-2009, 03:39 PM
Orlando in 5.

Raps08-09 Champ
08-27-2009, 04:29 PM
That makes no sense...So because people were called homers, they got their feelings hurt and decided to act like super homers? I hardly believe that.

What do we have to lose though?

I mean people here are called homers even though they all aren't and they get called out because someone else voted for the Raptors. They might as well vote Raptors just to piss you people off since people piss them off when they didn't do anything.

I voted for Hawks and Celtics but I actually want to vote Raptors now just to piss half of you off for calling all of us homers even though half of the Raptors fans voted the other team. Every thread I get called a homer even when I don't mention the Raptors.

nba~GURU~
08-27-2009, 04:41 PM
Raptors are horrible, Mavericks are 3rd in the west but good try.

LOL third? infront of who? denver? portland? na

dre1990
08-27-2009, 05:00 PM
Magic in 4. Toronto wouldnt have gotten out of the 1st round

Mavrix
08-27-2009, 05:01 PM
LOL third? infront of who? denver? portland? na

Hell yeah are you crazy? They improved MUCH more than both teams.

Go look at the latest NBA power rankings bud.

dre1990
08-27-2009, 05:01 PM
What do we have to lose though?

I mean people here are called homers even though they all aren't and they get called out because someone else voted for the Raptors. They might as well vote Raptors just to piss you people off since people piss them off when they didn't do anything.

I voted for Hawks and Celtics but I actually want to vote Raptors now just to piss half of you off for calling all of us homers even though half of the Raptors fans voted the other team. Every thread I get called a homer even when I don't mention the Raptors.

no raptor fans are homers

Mavrix
08-27-2009, 05:10 PM
72-46 Orlando wins by a landslide

blah-blah
08-27-2009, 05:27 PM
orlando in 6

blah-blah
08-27-2009, 05:36 PM
72-48 for magic

joshtrem
08-27-2009, 05:40 PM
this would be such a sick series, vince would just get absolutely dominated by toronto fans

sNaKeS
08-27-2009, 05:59 PM
What do we have to lose though?

I mean people here are called homers even though they all aren't and they get called out because someone else voted for the Raptors. They might as well vote Raptors just to piss you people off since people piss them off when they didn't do anything.

I voted for Hawks and Celtics but I actually want to vote Raptors now just to piss half of you off for calling all of us homers even though half of the Raptors fans voted the other team. Every thread I get called a homer even when I don't mention the Raptors.

Don't worry about being a homer, I was called that A LOT this year when I said in the beginning of the year that the magic would make the nba finals (both on PSD and in real life). It means nothing, so you say your team is going to win, big deal, that's what being a fan is all about. What are you supposed to say, "well, we have a good team but I'm just going to give up hope on them because we can't win"? In case you were wondering, i'm siding with you on this, just to clear that up. Trust me, I would be doing the same thing you are and piss everybody off. I don't know if you do this, but I like to piss people off for fun (especially ANY philadelphia team). Don't let anyone say otherwise and be a fan of your team.

THiiRTYONE
08-27-2009, 06:28 PM
What did I tell you about putting pictures of my girl on your sig.

AHAHA! playa play !

Raph12
08-27-2009, 08:55 PM
What did I tell you about putting pictures of my girl on your sig.

Lol funny, she's not worth it when the kid-factor kicks in though

Raps08-09 Champ
08-27-2009, 09:02 PM
Lol funny, she's not worth it when the kid-factor kicks in though

I have a hard time believing that is your ex.

deuces
08-27-2009, 09:09 PM
Lol funny, she's not worth it when the kid-factor kicks in though

word, who's in your sig?:confused:

GodsSon
08-27-2009, 09:12 PM
I have a hard time believing that is your ex.

cause its not...thats some girl named Carmen who gained notoriety from dancing seductively in front of her webcam

Raps08-09 Champ
08-27-2009, 09:18 PM
cause its not...thats some girl named Carmen who gained notoriety from dancing seductively in front of her webcam

Lol

Raph12
08-27-2009, 09:35 PM
cause its not...thats some girl named Carmen who gained notoriety from dancing seductively in front of her webcam

Well looks like someone knows who she is and what she does but what does that have to do with her being my ex lol? I'm not here to get people to check out my dating record, I know what I know. Now if it distracts anyone or people are offended in any way ask me to take it down and I will.

Raps08-09 Champ
08-27-2009, 09:44 PM
Well looks like someone knows who she is and what she does but what does that have to do with her being my ex lol? I'm not here to get people to check out my dating record, I know what I know. Now if it distracts anyone or people are offended in any way ask me to take it down and I will.

I beg you not to take that down.

Raph12
08-27-2009, 09:51 PM
I beg you not to take that down.

Lol, I thought someone may say that. Lemme give you a quick breakdown, she's 22, great girl lives in NYC, has two sons and loves to be scandelous in public. The kids eventually did me in. I'm too young to act like a father lol, but who could resist her?

Raph12
08-27-2009, 10:19 PM
You see what happens when people make a big deal about it, now I have to remove it, sorry guys mods orders.

Tommyh1331
08-27-2009, 10:32 PM
I know the raps aren't gonna win the championships or anything but they r certanly better or atleast match up to orlando's level.

As you can see folks, crack can make you say and do strange things^ just say no 6 posts

Macedonian
08-28-2009, 02:02 AM
Toronto in 7

RaptorizedKevin
08-28-2009, 12:51 PM
wow man this is embareesing the raptors making eastern confrence finals? thats messed up, we were just as lucky to get by the hawks, i thought we could beat them.. but BOSTON? hell no , we couldnt beat boston.. But i look at orlando and toronto.. that would be a really interesting series for alot of things

the raptors always play well againt the magic. last season they beat the magic at their own home court, and at the air canada centre.

the magic have a former francaise player.. vc

the raps have a former magic player hedo.

i think that would be an insane series to watch, plus the magic beat us in the 1st round back in O6, so i think they would put up a fight, i doubt orlando would sweep up, and i doubt even orlando would be in eastern confrance finals. i highyl doubt the raptors would be there tool lmao.

but i would say orlando is 5. it would come down to clutch plays to seal the games.

dhalvarez
08-28-2009, 01:12 PM
Can't wait to see Orlando choke this season. They gave up Courtney Lee, and Hedo for Vince Carter.

sure they got two good pieces in Barness and Bass....but not sure why Carter is seen so highly at this stage in his career. He'll help Orlando, but I don't think that they're better than last year.

I agree that Toronto does play better with Orlando.

as soft as people say Bosh and Bargs are, they play pretty well against Dwight and lewis.

as for Boston, the raps lost to the celtics but not all in close games. A clutch player like Hedo can help, especially since Toronto lacked that kind of player. This years team does match up better, but Bosh does have a hard time against Garnett.

If I were to choose a team to play in a playoff series for Toronto, I would pick Orlando over Boston.

I think it would be a pretty good series and see Toronto putting up a good fight. slight edge to Orlando, but Toronto winning in 7 is realistic.

Clutch time: Carter vs. Hedo

I would give the edge to Hedo, only because he has actually hit clutch shots in the playoffs as opposed to Carter who's made a career of taking bad shots, and hasn't really been clutch in important games.

scully8743
08-28-2009, 02:27 PM
Hedo wouldn't allow the Raptors to lose.

GCOOKIE7
08-28-2009, 03:17 PM
Hedo wouldn't allow the Raptors to lose.

Damn ****in' straight!!!!!

floridian321
08-28-2009, 04:33 PM
The Raptors dont have a chance to even make the conf. champonship!!!!

DetroitRipCity
08-28-2009, 06:54 PM
*sigh* here we go again oh well at leats its public this time, so now we can at least call out the right ones

J_M_B
08-28-2009, 07:42 PM
What a joke, Magic sweep

j-mart
08-29-2009, 09:14 AM
What a joke, Magic sweep

What would the Magic be sweeping? Their kitchens wearing aprons.

They are over-rated. Let's start the pool on how many games Carter misses this season. Lewis already made boneheaded decisions that will cost this team wins at the beginning of the season.

j-mart
08-29-2009, 09:17 AM
Raptors are horrible, Mavericks are 3rd in the west but good try.

Jason Kidd will need hip replacement by the time the playoffs start.

floridian321
08-29-2009, 09:33 AM
You obviously dont know basketball if you think the Magic are a joke. Last time I checked you have to be a good team to make it to the finals. And the Raptors are not a good team. Atleast you have a play maker with Hedo now. I hope he enjoys playing for nobody! Because he obviously doesnt want a championship.

LAKERMANIA
08-29-2009, 11:16 AM
I dont understand how Toronto is in the Eastern Conference finals at all..

RaptorsFanatic
08-29-2009, 11:56 AM
Atleast this thread will prove the so called "homers" of Toronto and see who moves on.
Personally, I will not vote.

Sly Guy
08-29-2009, 01:29 PM
The Toronto Raptors shouldn't have made it to this round. :pity:

yes they should have. Homerism wins, every time.

clutchski
08-29-2009, 01:39 PM
I think at this point people are doing it on purpose. If you complain and complain for your girlfriend not to cheat on you, you'll push her into cheating on you. Kind of a similar situation :p

Mavrix
08-29-2009, 01:53 PM
Jason Kidd will need hip replacement by the time the playoffs start.

Funny how no one says that about Derek Fisher :eyebrow:

Kidd is still a triple double threat.

akesh99
08-29-2009, 01:56 PM
I am really disappointed with my fellow fans of the Toronto Raptors.

x2!! but you know what, now that these polls have become a complete joke, i voted for the Raps. ONLY for the fact that this is already ****ed up, and now that we've come this far, we may as well have a battle of the homers in toronto vs la. All of these polls shold be redone. Ralistically, Orlando in 5 or 6, but i voted toronto in 7.

soundjunkies2
08-29-2009, 02:02 PM
Orlando is still going to win this, they have the most votes total but its a joke that Toronto got this far.

dhalvarez
08-29-2009, 02:09 PM
Im picking the Raptors here... win in 7 games. I think we match up really well against the Magic. (However, I did say they'ld lose to the Celtics in 6 so they shouldnt have even made it this far...)

Calderon > Nelson
DeRozan << Carter
Turk >> Peitrus
Bosh > Lewis
Bargs << Dwight

I believe that Toronto matches up well, but I think that Wright will be matched up with Carter more, depending on Derozan's development.

Throughout Carter's career, his big scoring games have been against teams with poor perimeter defense.

Carter scored a lot of points in the past against teams like Toronto, due to lack of defense. Carter only attacks the basket when he's facing weak defenses.

Putting tough defenders (like Wright, Jack or even Bellinilli) on Carter he tends to shy away from attacking the basket and gets into "quick jump shooting" mode.

Even in his days with Toronto, he never liked getting to pyshical.

Defensive depth has improved and (on paper) will be an advantage against players like Carter and Lewis who shy away from aggressive play when faced with tough defense.

I don't think that it's as easy as matching up Raps 5 starters vs. Orlando's 5, because Toronto's depth has turned into an advantage.

jackyyy
08-29-2009, 02:09 PM
In reality , Toronto would be lucky to even make it out of the first round

LAKERMANIA
08-29-2009, 02:40 PM
I really want to hear the side of whoever voted for the Raptors..

Raph12
08-29-2009, 04:18 PM
What would the Magic be sweeping? Their kitchens wearing aprons.

They are over-rated. Let's start the pool on how many games Carter misses this season. Lewis already made boneheaded decisions that will cost this team wins at the beginning of the season.

Lmao, TO in the ECFs? funny how Toronto was 3rd last in the East last season, Orlando went to the Finals and you think the Magic are overrated?!?! Carter has missed 16 games in the last 5 years, in comparison Bosh has missed 45 games in the last 4. Maybe we should start a pool on how many games Bosh will miss instead.

Gambeezy
08-29-2009, 04:50 PM
Can't believe this is the ECF. Ridiculous. Orlando in no less than 5, probably sweep.

SeeMeSawYou
08-29-2009, 05:07 PM
Theres no way this could happen...but Orlando in 5...no way the ECF does not involve the Celts, Cavs, or both

_Sn1P3r_
08-29-2009, 10:44 PM
Lmfao, Toronto in 7 is leading with 52 votes. I love the Raps, but damn, we even made it to the ECF?

LAKERMANIA
08-30-2009, 12:37 PM
Theres no way this could happen...but Orlando in 5...no way the ECF does not involve the Celts, Cavs, or both

exactly. as much as i dont like either team as a Laker fan, to say none of those teams make it to the ECF is sad.

dhalvarez
08-30-2009, 12:47 PM
The Raptors dont have a chance to even make the conf. champonship!!!!

Raptors might not have a chance to make the conf. championship, but they do have a realistic chance in beating Orlando. so what does that say?

bigsams50
08-30-2009, 01:56 PM
funny polls now public and whoever voted toronto before isnt now

HuRRiCaNeS324
08-30-2009, 04:38 PM
The raptors should not be here dude. And on top of that they might make it to the finals according to the voting.

:facepalm:

HuRRiCaNeS324
08-30-2009, 04:40 PM
Toronto fans=biggest homers

DetroitRipCity
08-30-2009, 06:05 PM
The raptors should not be here dude. And on top of that they might make it to the finals according to the voting.

:facepalm:

Nah they shouldnt make it Orlando is leading 101 to 67 right now... I think the homers went into hiding as soon as the poll became public

DetroitRipCity
08-30-2009, 06:24 PM
Raptors might not have a chance to make the conf. championship, but they do have a realistic chance in beating Orlando. so what does that say?

they have NO chance of beating Orlando Dwight will destroy Bargnani Down low, Orland still has the in and out game they had last season but instead of Hedo at the 3pt line they are going to have VC out there and IMO VC is more clutch than Hedo. Bosh will still get his but everyone else will get shut down.

Ill give the Raptors the wildcard tho in Derozen, if he performs above expectations then the Raptors have a slight chance.

-BRS-
08-30-2009, 06:30 PM
I would have to say Orlando in 4

bigsams50
08-30-2009, 06:31 PM
Nah they shouldnt make it Orlando is leading 101 to 67 right now... I think the homers went into hiding as soon as the poll became public

:clap:

Gnac76
08-30-2009, 06:42 PM
toronto... in the eastern conference finals???? wow.... some biased voting goin on here

GodsSon
08-30-2009, 06:46 PM
they have NO chance of beating Orlando Dwight will destroy Bargnani Down low, Orland still has the in and out game they had last season but instead of Hedo at the 3pt line they are going to have VC out there and IMO VC is more clutch than Hedo. Bosh will still get his but everyone else will get shut down.

Ill give the Raptors the wildcard tho in Derozen, if he performs above expectations then the Raptors have a slight chance.

I bet you couldn't even name anyone else on the roster lol...VC and Hedo do nearly the same thing imo, just VC is more athletic doing them; and with the game on the line you cant go against Hedo, the man hit enough clutch shots during his Magic tenure and was the Orlando MVP leading up to the finals...with that said, you keep referring to Raptor fans as homers yet you yourself are one massive Piston and BG7 homer (claiming the Pistons will finish a top 5 seed in the East???)...check yourself before you wreck yourself lol

dtmagnet
08-30-2009, 08:01 PM
If Orlando and Toronto were in the ECF (can't see the Raptors making it that far honestly) I would say Orlando in 5 just like the last time they met in the playoffs.

Jays Claw
08-30-2009, 08:06 PM
The Raptors match up well with the Magic on paper and in the regular season. Many of you would agree with me but the thing is, this is playoff basketball. The Magic as a team absolutely take it to another level of play that the Raptors will have a tough time with. No? :shrug:

MackSnackWrap
08-30-2009, 08:27 PM
Raps match up well with Orlando, Im saying Raps in 7

mitch91
08-30-2009, 08:47 PM
orl in 5 or 6

noway should the raps be in this position

ManRam
08-30-2009, 09:03 PM
I just don't get how Toronto got so much better, to the extent that they move from third worst in the East, to first or second best. Sure...they have some nice additions on their roster Hedo is a good player, DeRozan was a great draft pick, and they really filled out their bench nicely...

But what they did didn't make them this much better. At least I don't think so. You go from a 33 win team, to a ECF team by adding multiple all-stars, or a top 10 player. Toronto didn't come close to doing either of those.

DetroitRipCity
08-30-2009, 11:11 PM
I bet you couldn't even name anyone else on the roster lol...VC and Hedo do nearly the same thing imo, just VC is more athletic doing them; and with the game on the line you cant go against Hedo, the man hit enough clutch shots during his Magic tenure and was the Orlando MVP leading up to the finals...with that said, you keep referring to Raptor fans as homers yet you yourself are one massive Piston and BG7 homer (claiming the Pistons will finish a top 5 seed in the East???)...check yourself before you wreck yourself lol

Wait you mean one more person on the Raptors

Calderon/Jack
Derozen/Belineli
Hedo/Wright
Bosh/Evans
Bargs/O'Bryant

Or on the Magic

Nelson/Johnson
Carter/Redick
Pietrus/Barnes
Lewis/Bass
Howard/Gortat

And why is it stupid to think that the Pistons will make the 5th seed at 45-37??

Is is because this squad has more Finals and Playoff experience than your whole franchise?

or is it because this squad has more NBA titles than your whole franchise?

Why is is stupid to think that the Pistons cant win 6 more games then last season?

And why do you think it is so possible for the Raptors to win 17 more games than last season?

GodsSon
08-30-2009, 11:22 PM
Wait you mean one more person on the Raptors

Calderon/Jack
Derozen/Belineli
Hedo/Wright
Bosh/Evans
Bargs/O'Bryant

Or on the Magic

Nelson/Johnson
Carter/Redick
Pietrus/Barnes
Lewis/Bass
Howard/Gortat

And why is it stupid to think that the Pistons will make the 5th seed at 45-37??

Is is because this squad has more Finals and Playoff experience than your whole franchise?

or is it because this squad has more NBA titles than your whole franchise?

Why is is stupid to think that the Pistons cant win 6 more games then last season?

And why do you think it is so possible for the Raptors to win 17 more games than last season?

I figured you would come back with the full rotation of the Raptors, something that could be easily googled, but bravo nonetheless lol...everything I bolded is of no relevance because thats all in the past, and has no bearing on this upcoming NBA season...as for why I think the Pistons wont be a top 5 seed is because there roster is not better then last season...adding CV and BG will help on offense, but does nothing on the defensive end; and paying someone 10 mil to come off the bench, when you already have a starting 2 is just a waste of money imo...as for the Raptors winning 50 games, who knows, but after the Big 3 in the East that 4th seed is definitely up for grabs; and with the roster overhaul BC went through this summer I think the Raps are a better team (on paper) then the Hawks, Heat, Bulls, Pistons and 76er's

d-baller23
08-30-2009, 11:46 PM
Are u serious? Orlando Magic hands down in 5, Toronto shouldnt have made it passed Boston, either way we would've came out on top. To face the Lakers in a rematch. We are on a mission.

_Sn1P3r_
08-31-2009, 12:05 AM
Can't believe I'll actually see a Raptors and prolly LAL Finals, it'll be my wish come true, but I will also laugh (both of surprise and joy) if it happens.

GCOOKIE7
08-31-2009, 12:50 AM
I just don't get how Toronto got so much better, to the extent that they move from third worst in the East, to first or second best. Sure...they have some nice additions on their roster Hedo is a good player, DeRozan was a great draft pick, and they really filled out their bench nicely...

But what they did didn't make them this much better. At least I don't think so. You go from a 33 win team, to a ECF team by adding multiple all-stars, or a top 10 player. Toronto didn't come close to doing either of those.

ORRRRRRRRRr We're the Raps actually as bad as a 33 win team? It's not that farfetched for us to make it 4th in the east.

JermanJaysFan
08-31-2009, 09:00 AM
Magic in 6.

Sportfan
08-31-2009, 09:17 AM
ORRRRRRRRRr We're the Raps actually as bad as a 33 win team? It's not that farfetched for us to make it 4th in the east.

It is far fetched for you guys to beat the celtics and possibly the magic. Even the hawks win was a bit of a stretch

ManRam
08-31-2009, 09:28 AM
ORRRRRRRRRr We're the Raps actually as bad as a 33 win team? It's not that farfetched for us to make it 4th in the east.

It's possible they finish 4th...sure, just because after the top 3 teams, the East is very competitive. But did they really improve enough to beat a healthy Boston team (with KG back, and Sheed) and the Cavs (who steamrolled through the first two rounds, had the best record in the league, and got better as well)? I really don't think they improved nearly that much.

jrice9
08-31-2009, 09:30 AM
We didnt beat the Cavs and the Celtics I agree is the joke

randomness
08-31-2009, 10:38 AM
Orlando in 7.

DetroitRipCity
08-31-2009, 11:47 AM
I figured you would come back with the full rotation of the Raptors, something that could be easily googled, but bravo nonetheless lol...everything I bolded is of no relevance because thats all in the past, and has no bearing on this upcoming NBA season...as for why I think the Pistons wont be a top 5 seed is because there roster is not better then last season...adding CV and BG will help on offense, but does nothing on the defensive end; and paying someone 10 mil to come off the bench, when you already have a starting 2 is just a waste of money imo...as for the Raptors winning 50 games, who knows, but after the Big 3 in the East that 4th seed is definitely up for grabs; and with the roster overhaul BC went through this summer I think the Raps are a better team (on paper) then the Hawks, Heat, Bulls, Pistons and 76er's

alright ill give you that lets just wait and see,

I think the pistons will be just fine on D, you bring in two young studs in CV and Wilcox who are talented offensively and then you bring in the Vet defender in Wallace I believe that everyone will be shocked at how well CV and wilcox play on defense.


and i didnt google that :D

GCOOKIE7
08-31-2009, 11:58 AM
alright ill give you that lets just wait and see,

I think the pistons will be just fine on D, you bring in two young studs in CV and Wilcox who are talented offensively and then you bring in the Vet defender in Wallace I believe that everyone will be shocked at how well CV and wilcox play on defense.


and i didnt google that :D

Ya but you forgot Wilcox is horrible.

DetroitRipCity
08-31-2009, 12:00 PM
Ya but you forgot Wilcox is horrible.

Wilcox isnt that bad dude hes only 26... and played on some bad teams

GCOOKIE7
08-31-2009, 12:13 PM
It's possible they finish 4th...sure, just because after the top 3 teams, the East is very competitive. But did they really improve enough to beat a healthy Boston team (with KG back, and Sheed) and the Cavs (who steamrolled through the first two rounds, had the best record in the league, and got better as well)? I really don't think they improved nearly that much.

They may be healthy now but injuries happen... and they tend to happen to old farts a little easier.

JWO35
08-31-2009, 03:00 PM
I have come to a conclusion (By the Voting) That the Toronto Raptors are the best team ever assembled in the NBA!!
lol jk

bigsams50
08-31-2009, 03:15 PM
They may be healthy now but injuries happen... and they tend to happen to old farts a little easier.

its all fun and games until those old farts beath yall down in the playoffs

ManRam
08-31-2009, 03:15 PM
They may be healthy now but injuries happen... and they tend to happen to old farts a little easier.

Injuries weren't a huge factor last year...

Marion played every game he was with Toronto.
Bosh missed 5 total.
Bargs missed 4 total.
Calderon missed 14...but even so, that's not a ton.
Parker missed 2.
Kapono missed 2.
Graham missed 4.

JO missed double digit games as well...but he was havinga terrible year anyways.

They were very healthy, especially compared to Boston (KG), Orlando (Jameer, Pietrus) and even Cleveland (Delonte and Z)...and Philly (Brand)...etc. I can keep going. Their injuries weren't why they finished 3rd to last.

*Superman*
08-31-2009, 03:20 PM
I would love to see this match up, don't it will happen, the VC in TO and Hedo in ORL would be interesting. Can't wait for the season!!

dtmagnet
08-31-2009, 04:13 PM
It's possible they finish 4th...sure, just because after the top 3 teams, the East is very competitive. But did they really improve enough to beat a healthy Boston team (with KG back, and Sheed) and the Cavs (who steamrolled through the first two rounds, had the best record in the league, and got better as well)? I really don't think they improved nearly that much.

I don't think so either, and I don't think the majority of Raptors fans realistically think that either. The problem lies in these kinds of polls, the results are always going to be skewed because people tend to want to vote for their home team, and as was shown in the poll of # of fans from each team we know there are lots of Raptors fans on PSD.

Gnac76
08-31-2009, 08:16 PM
I have come to a conclusion (By the Voting) That the Toronto Raptors are the best team ever assembled in the NBA!!
lol jk

next poll up... which team is better

2009-10 Toronto Raptors or 95-96 Chicago Bulls in a 7 game series ... im gonna go with my gut on this one.....i'd have to say raptors in 6, with the greatest player of all time hedo turkoglu averaging 5 more ppg than mj

GCOOKIE7
08-31-2009, 10:55 PM
Injuries weren't a huge factor last year...

Marion played every game he was with Toronto.
Bosh missed 5 total.
Bargs missed 4 total.
Calderon missed 14...but even so, that's not a ton.
Parker missed 2.
Kapono missed 2.
Graham missed 4.

JO missed double digit games as well...but he was havinga terrible year anyways.

They were very healthy, especially compared to Boston (KG), Orlando (Jameer, Pietrus) and even Cleveland (Delonte and Z)...and Philly (Brand)...etc. I can keep going. Their injuries weren't why they finished 3rd to last.

Toronto last year wouldn't have had to go 7 games against that Bulls team.

MajorFloridaFan
08-31-2009, 11:57 PM
Orlando in 5

ManRam
09-01-2009, 12:27 AM
Toronto last year wouldn't have had to go 7 games against that Bulls team.

You're right, they would be on the golf course after 5.

How the hell can you justify that comment? They were the third worst team in the East. Why do you think they would have won a first round series?!?! They were the 3rd worst team in the East.

Great logic. Oh wait...there is none in your post.

clutchski
09-01-2009, 02:12 AM
You're right, they would be on the golf course after 5.

How the hell can you justify that comment? They were the third worst team in the East. Why do you think they would have won a first round series?!?! They were the 3rd worst team in the East.

Great logic. Oh wait...there is none in your post.

How about we went 3-1 against them last season including a 10 point victory @ Chicago the last game of the season.

That's a pretty good start to justify things.

secterm
09-01-2009, 02:56 AM
next poll up... which team is better

2009-10 Toronto Raptors or 95-96 Chicago Bulls in a 7 game series ... im gonna go with my gut on this one.....i'd have to say raptors in 6, with the greatest player of all time hedo turkoglu averaging 5 more ppg than mj

I think the Raptors would make minced meat out of the showtime Lakers. As for recent dynasties I think that they will prove to be much better than Jordan's Bulls. I expect Toronto to go undefeated all season, and if they lose, it'll be because Tim Donehey managed to ref the game. I just hope the Raptors don't embarrass too many teams cause that's not nice. They should break one of Hedo's legs just to make it fair (and he can walk around with a killer cane).

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I like you
09-01-2009, 04:53 AM
Magic sweep

ManRam
09-01-2009, 10:46 AM
How about we went 3-1 against them last season including a 10 point victory @ Chicago the last game of the season.

That's a pretty good start to justify things.

Regular season head to head record means everything. Riiiighhhtt. Boston wen't 2-1 vs. Chicago in the regular season.

Chicago was a much better team in the playoffs than they were in the regular season. Rose had matured a lot. They got Miller and Salmons. Hinrich was healthy...etc.

THe bottom line is they were the 3rd worst team in the East. You aren't going to convince me that they would have done better than Boston in the playoffs last year. There is a reason their record sucked so much. They weren't a good team.

DMOB23
09-01-2009, 10:55 AM
TO is not gonna win in 7, or at all, who is all the people thinking this?

TO Rapz
09-01-2009, 11:20 AM
raptors in 8 :D

GCOOKIE7
09-01-2009, 12:51 PM
Regular season head to head record means everything. Riiiighhhtt. Boston wen't 2-1 vs. Chicago in the regular season.

Chicago was a much better team in the playoffs than they were in the regular season. Rose had matured a lot. They got Miller and Salmons. Hinrich was healthy...etc.

THe bottom line is they were the 3rd worst team in the East. You aren't going to convince me that they would have done better than Boston in the playoffs last year. There is a reason their record sucked so much. They weren't a good team.

Chicago can not matchup with us. Their bigs are too garbage. Last year they got a lucky defensive play by noah to win that one game against us.

I your gonna use your logic of "Bulls being better in the playoffs" than why can't the Rapss be that. I you guys are gonna' continually call us homers and talk about how we cant hang with the big boys than your wrong.
The Raps have more talent then that Bulls team and should be able to take any team in the east to 7 games.

Mile High Champ
09-01-2009, 02:37 PM
Granted Orland would probably win this series but some of you are way off base thinking it would be a sweep. I know some of you are simply chosing the Magic in 4 to disrespect the raptors and what some of our homer fans have done.

This could of been all avoided had these polls never have been done..

Legend_23
09-01-2009, 02:57 PM
raps sweep. :) :)
:)

EL HEAT
09-01-2009, 07:38 PM
Magic are easily better, but I never vote sweep so magic in 5.

Toenail Clipper
09-01-2009, 07:51 PM
How did Toronto beat Boston?
WHAT?!

Tommyh1331
09-01-2009, 11:28 PM
Look how much love Toronto is getting from Espn lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=OffseasonPredictions09-EastStandings

Raph12
09-01-2009, 11:45 PM
Look how much love Toronto is getting from Espn lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=OffseasonPredictions09-EastStandings

Lmao! These rankings are almost identical to mine! Just for the record, I also had TO at #9!

LakePackYank
09-01-2009, 11:53 PM
Look how much love Toronto is getting from Espn lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=OffseasonPredictions09-EastStandings

Lol I even said myself before that the raptors are not even a playoff right now lettle alone a 4th seed team.

theimortalone
09-02-2009, 12:51 AM
How the **** is Toronto in the ECF? Why do you Raptors fans assume that? Because you guys got Hedo, you are that damn good? What a joke! :pity:

Anyways Orlando in 6 at the most.

Draco
09-02-2009, 01:26 AM
I love how no matter who puts out a ranking there's always some fanbase who thinks the author is biased or has a particular hatred for their team. :D

But I think Canadian fans take the cake when they play the "American bias" card.

secterm
09-02-2009, 01:27 AM
Chicago can not matchup with us. Their bigs are too garbage. Last year they got a lucky defensive play by noah to win that one game against us.

I your gonna use your logic of "Bulls being better in the playoffs" than why can't the Rapss be that. I you guys are gonna' continually call us homers and talk about how we cant hang with the big boys than your wrong.
The Raps have more talent then that Bulls team and should be able to take any team in the east to 7 games.

A healthy Raptors can't even come close to any one of a healthy Boston/Orlando/Cleveland. The bulls went 7 against an undermanned Boston...not that impressive (not bas considering some of their core is SOOOOOOO young, but not that impressive). Maybe the Raps could beat the bulls in 7 games in the play-off (they should probably be able to) but they cannot hang with the big 3 in the East.

And the Raps are just too weak defensively to do any decent play-off damage. The play-offs are when good defenses shine.

Draco
09-02-2009, 01:28 AM
A healthy Raptors can't even come close to any one of a healthy Boston/Orlando/Cleveland. The undermanned bulls went 7 against an undermanned Boston...

Fixed it for you.

secterm
09-02-2009, 01:40 AM
What I was trying to point out is "A healthy Raptors can't even come close to any one of a healthy Boston/Orlando/Cleveland. The bulls went 7 against an INJURED Boston squad"

Draco
09-02-2009, 01:47 AM
What I was trying to point out is "A healthy Raptors can't even come close to any one of a healthy Boston/Orlando/Cleveland. The bulls went 7 against an INJURED Boston squad"

Where was Luol Deng?

secterm
09-02-2009, 02:02 AM
Where was Luol Deng?

He would have been there third or fourth best "non big" on there team. Definitely behind Gorden and Rose, and of around the same importance as Salmons.

KG on the other hand was Boston's best big. That's like comparing the difference between if Bosh went down or if a guy like Jarret Jack went down. I like Jack, but the team could mange without him.

Draco
09-02-2009, 02:09 AM
He would have been there third or fourth best "non big" on there team. Definitely behind Gorden and Rose, and of around the same importance as Salmons.

KG on the other hand was Boston's best big. That's like comparing the difference between if Bosh went down or if a guy like Jarret Jack went down. I like Jack, but the team could mange without him.

Deng's a better defender than Salmons and probably a better shooter. I definately don't see the comparison to someone like Jarret Jack who's good for 13 ppg and 5 assists at best. Deng's starter material, Jack's a back-up.. end of story.

Regardless, the issue at hand is the Bulls had an important injury. Your post implied that a fully healthy Bulls team took an injured Celtics team to 7 games. That's just not the case.

As far as your belief that a fully healthy Raptor team should beat a fully healthy Bulls team... that would be interesting but with the Raps lack of defnese I doubt it.

secterm
09-02-2009, 02:18 AM
Deng's a better defender than Salmons and probably a better shooter. I definately don't see the comparison to someone like Jarret Jack who's good for 13 ppg and 5 assists at best. Deng's starter material, Jack's a back-up.. end of story.

Regardless, the issue at hand is the Bulls had an important injury. Your post implied that a fully healthy Bulls team took an injured Celtics team to 7 games. That's just not the case.

As far as your belief that a fully healthy Raptor team should beat a fully healthy Bulls team... that would be interesting but with the Raps lack of defnese I doubt it.

ok. I too wouldn't be suprised if the bulls beat the raps in a series, I definitely don't see the raps as that much better, IF at all.

Though i also remember the Celts having a few injuries. Either way, if KG and Deng were both back in there line-ups, I'd say that would have been a 5 game series.

nba~GURU~
09-02-2009, 05:55 AM
I think we are all pretty much in agreement that the raptors should not have made it this far and in most likely hood unless they somehow find three 20 point scorers on there team and bosh turns into a defensiver stopper of sorts they would not have made it past the second round.

I am a raptors fan and i agree that this is a little farfetched but im getting tired of hearing all this ******** about a raptors team that cant win 17 more games then last year:S why? if you have any knowledge of basketball you would agree that it is very realistic it could happen. does that mean it will ? no definatly not but to put down the raptors when you really do know the team based on the fact that raptors basically get no love from american stations which no one can argue against, i think that none of you should argue against a team that you have very little knowledge about.. and that goes for raptors fans as well love the passion but if you don't know much about the other teams in the league stick to our team do not make comparisons and that is not saying that all the raptors fans here are homers there are alot of valid comments that are made but are disregarded because they are from raptors fans. Anyone see Chris Webbers fab five? no respect for the raptors at all he went threw that list in 2 minutes whereas he spent 7 minutes on the timberwolves:S and tell me in what world does that make sense?

basically what im saying is keep this a BASKETBALL forum not a forum where you back your own team up and make assumptions about other teams that you in reality know nothing about... thank you

orlando in 6

ManRam
09-02-2009, 10:52 AM
Chicago can not matchup with us. Their bigs are too garbage. Last year they got a lucky defensive play by noah to win that one game against us.

I your gonna use your logic of "Bulls being better in the playoffs" than why can't the Rapss be that. I you guys are gonna' continually call us homers and talk about how we cant hang with the big boys than your wrong.
The Raps have more talent then that Bulls team and should be able to take any team in the east to 7 games.

The Bulls big men aren't garbage. If they can match up with any other team's bigs, it's probably Toronto's. You can't deny Bargs and Bosh have a tendency to play soft. Thomas and Noah are energy guys. They aren't going to overpower anyone, but neither will your bigs. Miller is a solid vet, who can guard anyone on the Raptors.

I'm not calling anyone a homer...I just don't see how a team that finished third place, without any significant injuries last year, jumps to the second best team in the East...especially with the moves they made, which weren't overwhelming. I'm not even really concerned with a "what would have happened" scenario vs. the Bulls last year. I'm more concerned with why people think Toronto is now good enough to beat Boston, Cleveland and Orlando. I can understand an argument (not when people act like it's fact) that they could beat the other teams in the East. I refuse to believe that they can beat the big three.

And we'll agree to disagree about who has more talent. I think Rose, Deng, Salmons, Hinrich and Pargo are far better than your back court. I think Noah, Thomas and Miller can "bang" with Bargs, Bosh and all your average back ups. I don't think you can say either team is obviously better than the other. I also love Gibson and Johnson. Think those two guys will be STUDS.

theimortalone
09-02-2009, 11:54 AM
Does this go by most votes total, or most votes to decide when a team takes the series, like for instance Orland in 5, or Toronto in 7.