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JordansBulls
08-12-2009, 01:46 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4394050



The New Orleans Hornets, in a move to shed some payroll after the recent acquisition of Emeka Okafor, have agreed to trade swingman Rasual Butler to the Los Angeles Clippers for a future second-round pick, according to NBA front-office sources.

Butler is scheduled to earn $3.9 million next season. With the Clippers looking for an extra shooter and depth at both shooting guard and small forward, sources said the team was amenable to absorbing the final year of Butler's contract, which will save New Orleans nearly $8 million when factoring in the luxury-tax implications.

Raps08-09 Champ
08-12-2009, 01:52 PM
I wanted Butler on the Raptors.

Vinny642
08-12-2009, 01:56 PM
Didnt think this was big enough to make a thread but w/e.

b_rad23
08-12-2009, 01:58 PM
The Clippers have been making really good moves lately.

They have some depth now...

How they keep getting solid players for future seconds, I'll never know.

Diggy_2
08-12-2009, 01:59 PM
i think the clippers will be good this year

still1ballin
08-12-2009, 02:00 PM
Good trade for the clips...solid player

JWO35
08-12-2009, 02:01 PM
Blake Griffin + Rasual Butler = 3rd overall pick in 2010!

Kakaroach
08-12-2009, 02:09 PM
Another good pick-up by the Clippers for a future second-round pick. He can stroke it and he will be a solid bench producer for the Clippers. They have gotten really good this off-season....

tland22
08-12-2009, 02:11 PM
Damn... good move for the Clippers. NO gave their starting SG away for NOTHING...a conditional 2nd rounder isnt anything. Butler is a GREAT bench player- not a starter which is what he was for NO avg 3.3 rebs and 11 points per game...which is solid. NO saving nealry 8 million dollars though is great.

Who starts for NO now?

Vinny642
08-12-2009, 02:12 PM
Damn... good move for the Clippers. NO gave their starting SG away for NOTHING...a conditional 2nd rounder isnt anything. Butler is a GREAT bench player- not a starter which is what he was for NO avg 3.3 rebs and 11 points per game...which is solid. NO saving nealry 8 million dollars though is great.

Who starts for NO now?

Dont worry our GM knows what he is doing.

Raph12
08-12-2009, 02:14 PM
Where was the East's big three (Orlando, Boston and Cleveland) for this trade, Butler is a steal for a future 2nd round pick. Solid defender and a great set jumpshooter, good move LAC!

Chronz
08-12-2009, 02:39 PM
Good move but I would have rather have moved Kaman for Mike Miller's expiring contract.

Sports Illustrator
08-12-2009, 03:01 PM
Watch-out for the Clippers. They aren't the same Clippers as last season. Rasual Butler will only add even more depth to their bench.

Reyes6
08-12-2009, 03:02 PM
Clippers=#1 seed in the West... LOL

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-12-2009, 03:04 PM
RB ain't that nice.

B.JenningsMVP
08-12-2009, 03:12 PM
With this trade they're contenders now..

Patrick Swayze
08-12-2009, 03:14 PM
Being a Hornets fan. I'm very upset. This trade was just dumb. I understand the salary dump part, but I don't get why they traded Butler. Morris Peterson is a pile of crap that could have been traded instead. I just don't get it.

ko8e24
08-12-2009, 03:18 PM
Didnt think this was big enough to make a thread but w/e.

actually, it is because it seems like both clippers and hornets will be fighting for those final playoff seeds. clips have more depth than hornets now, so it'll be interesting to see.

Chronz
08-12-2009, 03:19 PM
Being a Hornets fan. I'm very upset. This trade was just dumb. I understand the salary dump part, but I don't get why they traded Butler. Morris Peterson is a pile of crap that could have been traded instead. I just don't get it.

Who would trade for Morris Peterson?

what54!?
08-12-2009, 03:21 PM
ahh rasual butler. He hit that damn buzzer beater against the heat last season. :(

good trade both ways

ko8e24
08-12-2009, 03:21 PM
Good move but I would have rather have moved Kaman for Mike Miller's expiring contract.

lol thats so random.

spacemandave
08-12-2009, 03:21 PM
i dont think anyone wants mo pete for nothing...on any championship caliber team he would have to be by far the worst starter on the team so its no great loss in the end. hopefully thornton or juju can develop into a better player than butler could ever be.....still remember that game winner in sacramento tho...THE BUTLER DID IT!

MiamiHeat
08-12-2009, 03:24 PM
ahh rasual butler. He hit that damn buzzer beater against the heat last season. :(



:mad:

Reddd
08-12-2009, 03:24 PM
For a second rounder? Clips looking fine.

Patrick Swayze
08-12-2009, 03:26 PM
Who would trade for Morris Peterson?

No one. Do you blame anyone for not wanting him?

Trouble87
08-12-2009, 03:30 PM
great financial move for NO

Patrick Swayze
08-12-2009, 03:31 PM
great financial move for NO

Indeed, but I just don't get why they parted with a starter.

Jays Claw
08-12-2009, 03:32 PM
The Los Angeles Clippers won this trade as it was a salary dump for the New Orleans Hornets.

tland22
08-12-2009, 03:55 PM
RB ain't that nice.

Wrong. You have no clue. He started and played all 82 games for NO last year, so he def doesnt suck. The Clips, or any team could use 11 ppg. He is a Vet, he shoots well, very nice spot up shooter, really solid 3point shooter he spreads the floor, at 6ft 7.5inches he has nice size, very good defensive legnth, he actually does play D (held leBron to a terrible night of 15points when the Hornets spanked the Cavs last year), he isnt particularly expensive, the CLIPS gave up practically nothing for him, he adds so much depth, he is clutch shooter (last year he hit two buzzer beaters). he is a good all around pick up, and a player like this can make all the difference on a team "on the verge" etc... good pick up for Clips, and Ima go ahead and say bad for the Hornets, despite saving a ton of money 8 million

Raps08-09 Champ
08-12-2009, 04:10 PM
Being a Hornets fan. I'm very upset. This trade was just dumb. I understand the salary dump part, but I don't get why they traded Butler. Morris Peterson is a pile of crap that could have been traded instead. I just don't get it.

I'll trade you Marcus Bank for Morris Peterson.

IBleedPurple
08-12-2009, 04:52 PM
Wouldn't have minded him on the Nuggets, but no way NO trades him there.....Good move by the Clips

Chronz
08-12-2009, 05:11 PM
lol thats so random.
You dont see how Mike Miller and Rasual Butler are connected?

Clippers have been searching for another Swingman for awhile now, considering their sole options were Thornton and Mardy, neither of which can shoot. The Kaman trade was supposeably on the table but the Clips shied away.

To a lesser degree Butler fills the same need that Miller wouldve for this team, only we get unload Kamans contract in the process giving us a chance to max out a FA in 2010. But Im assuming management hasnt ruled out the possibility that Kaman shows up to play, or that they feel DeAndre isnt ready for heavy minutes.

IndyRealist
08-12-2009, 10:09 PM
Where was the East's big three (Orlando, Boston and Cleveland) for this trade, Butler is a steal for a future 2nd round pick. Solid defender and a great set jumpshooter, good move LAC!

None of the big 3 are able to take on a contract in trade without sending salary back, which would defeat the purpose. There's that whole salary cap thing....

nbaguy123
08-12-2009, 11:36 PM
wow, thats a steal for the clippers, but aren't they kind of stacked at the guard position, or is butler a SF?

Toenail Clipper
08-12-2009, 11:41 PM
Who the heck is Rasual Butler?!

Vinny642
08-12-2009, 11:44 PM
Being a Hornets fan. I'm very upset. This trade was just dumb. I understand the salary dump part, but I don't get why they traded Butler. Morris Peterson is a pile of crap that could have been traded instead. I just don't get it.

No we couldn't have, no one wanted Mo Pete at all!!

Agar81
08-12-2009, 11:45 PM
steal

Vinny642
08-12-2009, 11:47 PM
Indeed, but I just don't get why they parted with a starter.

LOL, BECAUSE THATS ALL WE COULD TRADE AT THE MOMENT.
Just wait I think our GM has a plan

Toenail Clipper
08-12-2009, 11:55 PM
LOL, BECAUSE THATS ALL WE COULD TRADE AT THE MOMENT.
Just wait I think our GM has a plan

no he doesnt! :P

pippsux
08-12-2009, 11:58 PM
New Orleans is in semi fire sale mode. CP3 and West will have to carry what's left of the pieces which is nothing.

tland22
08-13-2009, 12:23 AM
Who the heck is Rasual Butler?!

Wow. I really scratch my head at TONS of things that you post, just fyi...this is the least significant one, but still. You needed to be called out.

The Hornets starting SG last year. Played in all 82 games.

Toenail Clipper
08-13-2009, 12:26 AM
Wow. I really scratch my head at TONS of things that you post, just fyi...this is the least significant one, but still. You needed to be called out.

The Hornets starting SG last year. Played in all 82 games.

I am sorry for not knowing the player who I never seen before.
I guess my perception of basketball is absent
:clap:

tland22
08-13-2009, 12:27 AM
New Orleans is in semi fire sale mode. CP3 and West will have to carry what's left of the pieces which is nothing.

Not they are not. And they have Emeka Okafor, he isnt chopped liver. In fact, only three players have averaged double digit rebounds AND points over the last 5 years: Duncan, Howard, Okafor. So,you mean that CP3, D West, and Okafor will have to carry the rest which is "nothing" according to you. Thats a pretty damn solid core you got right there. And James Posey, who is always a great player to have on your team. Many teams would kill to have a "core" of players that nice.

lakers4sho
08-13-2009, 12:31 AM
I'd love to say Good Job Clippers, but there's always this feeling that somehow they're going to find a way to screw it all up this season.

Storch
08-13-2009, 12:33 AM
The clippers are stealing all the players quietly this offseason! bandits.

AirJordanXVIII
08-13-2009, 12:36 AM
This is a steal, but yet again, Camby went for a 2nd rounder and that redefined the whole term "steal".

Gideon
08-13-2009, 12:57 AM
I wonder what this means for the Clips pursuit of Ramon Sessions. R they out of it or do they plan on a S/T with the Bucks for one of their other players? Also, the Hornets drafted Marcus Thorton in 2nd round who could start at sg, don't sleep on this guy!

tland22
08-13-2009, 01:11 AM
LOLOL i just found out the "conditional" pick is for a 2016 second rounder LOLOL

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hI2d_Fixu95bLmhKBl58-nMD409QD9A1MPK00

Clippers got a STEAL. 2016 second rounder?! R u kidding me? Should have atleast asked for a new washing machine and dryer, and some extra cash for new uni's and a few cases of beer.

kombayn
08-13-2009, 01:43 AM
Great trade for the Clippers.

PG - B. Davis/S. Telfair/M. Collins
SG - E. Gordon/R. Butler/R. Davis
SF - A. Thornton/S. Novak
PF - B. Griffin/C. Smith/M. Madsen
C - C. Kaman/M. Camby/D. Jordan

Solid roster if the team stays like this. But if they S&T for Sessions and deal Telfair. I think the team should be a playoff team for sure. I would be interested in seeing Butler start at SF.

HuRRiCaNeS324
08-13-2009, 01:53 AM
why couldnt the heat do that? Wow pat just wow

Vinny642
08-13-2009, 01:59 AM
Now people are overrating Butler:pity:
When he was with NO he was the worst starter in the league but no he is good?

Chronz
08-13-2009, 02:00 AM
Lets not get carried away with this addition, its a solid move but hes still just a borderline starter.

tland22
08-13-2009, 02:03 AM
^^^ exactly. But none less than a GREAT bench player(at least) Vet ...who is getting better.

still, for a 2016 second rd pick. 2016 ! r u kidding me?! LOL Thats a steal.

Vinny642
08-13-2009, 02:05 AM
LOL I dont care what we got I would've loved to trade MoPete but thats impossible so I like this move. Thorton and Wright get more minutes!!

Chronz
08-13-2009, 02:07 AM
Now people are overrating Butler:pity:
When he was with NO he was the worst starter in the league but no he is good?
Thank you, I love this move for the depth and the need but hes not going to change much. He'll provide solid 3pt shooting but I guess thats a step up from Thornton.

3pt shooting is an aspect of the game thats hard to quantify, when your team doesnt lack for shooters like the Hornets mightve Im not sure its easy to dismiss, I know they werent as bad as the Clips were, we were in desperate need of shooting outside of EG AND Novak. Now we can count on Butler if he plays as well as he did last year, he will improve the team. How will losing a kickout option like Butler effect CP3's play? According to the player splits, both players helped eachothers games throughout their stay together, but without CP3 Butlers play suffered.

Vinny642
08-13-2009, 02:09 AM
I just want to see what other moves we got up our sleeves

Chronz
08-13-2009, 02:10 AM
^^^ exactly. But none less than a GREAT bench player(at least) Vet ...who is getting better.

still, for a 2016 second rd pick. 2016 ! r u kidding me?! LOL Thats a steal.

Hes 30 years old man, his game isnt going anywhere. I dont know about a great bench player, to me a great bench player should be a decent starter. Butler is a fringe starter, meaning a solid 7th preferably 8th guy. But on our team hes better than Thornton meaning we finally push Thornton to the bench, but we dont gain much of an upgrade.

Still it was a move that had to be done, both teams could get the impression that they got a steal.

Vinny642
08-13-2009, 02:13 AM
I dont think the Hornets consider it a steal, more or less something that had to be done.

Chronz
08-13-2009, 02:20 AM
I dont think the Hornets consider it a steal, more or less something that had to be done.
Its not about having to get done, its the ability to get it done. There were only 2 teams who could provide the cap relief (8M), Clips and Magic. Magic already spent a shitload. If they didnt get this deal done with the Clips they wouldve been screwed.

OT Thriller
08-13-2009, 12:49 PM
I think this move puts the Clippers over the hump to reach the NBA Finals.

MTar786
08-13-2009, 01:55 PM
great bench player.. this team can actually become a contender if they pull a good trade.. they have the trade chips to do so. but its the clips so they wont

Raps08-09 Champ
08-13-2009, 01:55 PM
No we couldn't have, no one wanted Mo Pete at all!!

I'll trade you Marcus Banks for Morris Peterson.

IBleedPurple
08-13-2009, 02:06 PM
This is a steal, but yet again, Camby went for a 2nd rounder and that redefined the whole term "steal".

No other team wanted Camby's salary, and the Nuggets were shedding payroll. It freed up space to get Billups....so it turned out to be a great move.

(and Denver actually didn't even get a 2nd round pick, just the right to swap 2nd round picks with the Clippers)

blazerman
08-13-2009, 02:21 PM
Good move but I would have rather have moved Kaman for Mike Miller's expiring contract.

Kaman will get the Clippers much more than an expiring contract because there's at least 10 teams that would love to have Kaman.

Rasual Bultler was basically free.

No offense but you're GM skills are questionable at best.

Good pickup Clippers!

ElMarroAfamado
08-13-2009, 02:24 PM
we should be able to get back to mediocre players for kaman because thats more than enough
when Chris wants to play he can be one of the best centers in the West
when he doesnt he is a bum
so whos gonna take the chance....

Ragun
08-13-2009, 03:34 PM
i think this trade was done to get under luxury tax.

Chronz
08-13-2009, 03:45 PM
Kaman will get the Clippers much more than an expiring contract because there's at least 10 teams that would love to have Kaman.

Rasual Bultler was basically free.

No offense but you're GM skills are questionable at best.

Good pickup Clippers!

None taken, I have no idea who you are and have been told by enough Clipper fans that I would make a much better GM for our team.

But name those 10 teams that would love to have Kaman and what they would offer, I can guarantee it will be a player with negative trade value. Id rather have the expiring contract and offer a a FA a max salary next year.

We got DeAndre ready to step in for Kaman, atleast if Kaman plays as bad as he did last year.

Chronz
08-13-2009, 03:47 PM
we should be able to get back to mediocre players for kaman because thats more than enough
when Chris wants to play he can be one of the best centers in the West
when he doesnt he is a bum
so whos gonna take the chance....
Id gladly take a 1 year rental from a decent player, I just want Kamans huge contract off our books. Hes not worth his salary and I think people are starting to realize why money ball is so successful

b_rad23
08-13-2009, 03:53 PM
Kaman for Blount Chronz?

Chronz
08-13-2009, 04:07 PM
Kaman for Blount Chronz?

Id like a 1 year rental of someone who can actually play, but if the trade deadline was nearing, and Kaman was repeating his 08 form Id gladly take it. Question is, why would you? It would all but guarantee Wade gos to chi-town.

How about Baron+Kaman for Jermaine+Chalmers? **** Ill even through in Thornton for Dorrel Wright

lorenz00
08-13-2009, 04:15 PM
Blake Griffin + Rasual Butler = 3rd overall pick in 2010!

lol that actually made me laugh

Basketballguy87
08-13-2009, 05:26 PM
Who cares it's not like the clippers got better all of the sudden LMAO!

b_rad23
08-13-2009, 05:38 PM
Id like a 1 year rental of someone who can actually play, but if the trade deadline was nearing, and Kaman was repeating his 08 form Id gladly take it. Question is, why would you? It would all but guarantee Wade gos to chi-town.

How about Baron+Kaman for Jermaine+Chalmers? **** Ill even through in Thornton for Dorrel Wright

Wouldn't give up Chalmers or trade for Baron personally, but as for your question, if we were to make that move, it would be part of a flurry of moves meant to make us contenders immediately and maintain 2011 cap space.

Say a team like Charlotte is floundering. We have a ton of expirings. We could conceivably surround Wade with Gerald Wallace, Kaman, Beasley, etc and go for broke this year and still maintain flexibility for 2011.

This is only if Riley is convinced that 2010 won't work, Wade will leave, or something like that...

dhoops24
08-13-2009, 05:46 PM
Who cares i not like the clippers got better all of the sudden LMAO!

Is this english?

dhoops24
08-13-2009, 05:47 PM
I think the Clips are having a good offseason for the NBA and a great offseason for the Clippers. Butler will fill a void.

JRisdabest
08-13-2009, 05:55 PM
Who cares i not like the clippers got better all of the sudden LMAO!

wtf did you say????

Toenail Clipper
08-13-2009, 07:02 PM
I would trade Kaman and Telfair for a star.
Then, sign Ramon Sessions.
Simple as that.
Then in 2010, then can sign another star.
yay

uncleben989
08-13-2009, 07:58 PM
Blake Griffin + Rasual Butler = 3rd overall pick in 2010!

and of course BG + Villanueva = 2009 Championship for detroit